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MacBytes
Aug 27, 2006, 08:34 PM
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Link: Man drops iPod in toilet on flight to Canada. Terror scare ensues. (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20060827213458)
Description:: There are some things that will get you marked as a terrorist for dropping in an airplane toilet. An iPod is one of them.

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jericho53
Aug 27, 2006, 08:53 PM
To bad it wasn't a zen.

bluebomberman
Aug 27, 2006, 09:05 PM
I bet the interrogator was like, "I'm going to make his life so #&@!ing miserable because he's too stupid to put his iPod in his pockey before using the loo."

At least I hope so. :o

fall3n
Aug 27, 2006, 09:24 PM
sounds like the interegator has seen one to many crime movies. How dramatic.

xsedrinam
Aug 27, 2006, 09:45 PM
I wonder what was playing when they found it? Enima inem, on random? :p

macgeek2005
Aug 27, 2006, 09:53 PM
Wow. I read the ENTIRE thing. The long version, at the WoW forums.

That's crazyy!!

dmw007
Aug 27, 2006, 10:05 PM
sounds like the interegator has seen one to many crime movies. How dramatic.

I agree, the guy seemed rather overboard with his questioning. :D

Spaceman Spiff
Aug 27, 2006, 10:12 PM
Goodness gracious, what's a terrorist going to do in Canada? Honestly.

Poor guy. Didn't get treated terribly well. Those questions did seem very unnecessary.

dmw007
Aug 27, 2006, 10:16 PM
Goodness gracious, what's a terrorist going to do in Canada? Honestly.


Kill a moose? I dunno.... :p ;) :D :)

Makosuke
Aug 27, 2006, 10:17 PM
Not trying to make this at all political, but the sad part is even after it was clearly established that it was an iPod, and (assuming they talked to the attendants) they knew that he had informed them of this before it had become any kind of an issue, they still felt it necessary to give the poor fellow as hard a time as possible for what was a pretty simple mistake.

I do have to give the guy (assuming the story is true in the details, which I have no reason to believe it isn't) some SERIOUS props for this exchange, which I quote from the long-form post:

It was me and a gruff, humorless customs official. [...] He then asked me to turn on my laptop. I did, and he began using it. I saw him open Spotlight and begin searching.

"Do you connect to the Internet on this laptop?"
"Yes."
"Have you downloaded and images?"
"Huh? What do you mean?"
"Do you have any pornography?"
"No."

I waited in total silence for about 10 minutes as he kept searching and searching, until I finally asked him, "What are you looking for?"

"Contraband," he said without looking up at me.
"Such as?"
"Child pornography, hate propaganda."
"Child porn I can understand, that's illegal. But hate propaganda is protected speech."
Now he looked up. "What country do you think you're in?"
"Oh, it's illegal in Canada?"
"I honestly don't know. But that doesn't matter. I get to decide what goes in this country. Do you have a problem with that?"
I paused for a long time while I thought about what I should say to this. "Yes."
"Yes, you do have a problem?"
"Yes, I do. If it's illegal in Canada I'll understand, but saying 'I don't want it in my country' isn't good enough when you're a government official."

Now he was pissed. "Don't fool around with me. I'm sure you want this to end as much as I do. So I will ask you questions, and you will answer. Do you understand?"

Another long pause while I thought. "Yes, I do."That would take some balls, and I only hope that if I'm ever in a similar situation I have the guts to say the same (though I sure hope I never am!), even if it makes zip difference.

I did note that, if he was searching with Spotlight, the guy must be a Mac user.

Oh, and it's sad that he didn't keep the iPod--you just know that if he'd eBayed the thing, some online casino would have paid several thousand dollars for it just because.

dmw007
Aug 27, 2006, 10:25 PM
That would take some balls, and I only hope that if I'm ever in a similar situation I have the guts to say the same (though I sure hope I never am!), even if it makes zip difference.



I should say so, there is no way that I could have said that to the guy! :eek:

plinkoman
Aug 27, 2006, 10:48 PM
this is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

truz
Aug 27, 2006, 11:13 PM
What a mess.

Willis
Aug 28, 2006, 12:00 AM
Man that sucks. In the UK iPods are banned on all trans-atlantic flights. Unless its been lifted... but im pretty sure it isnt :mad:

nbs2
Aug 28, 2006, 06:36 AM
I have a solution --> ban toilets! That way we can't drop things in them.

dmw007
Aug 28, 2006, 07:09 AM
I have a solution --> ban toilets! That way we can't drop things in them.


Excellent idea nbs2. ;) :D

whooleytoo
Aug 28, 2006, 07:16 AM
Note to self: In future, put all contraband in my "Exclude from Spotlight indexing" folder. :eek:

Sharewaredemon
Aug 28, 2006, 08:46 AM
wow.

That was intense, I read the whole post on the WoW forum.

iGary
Aug 28, 2006, 08:49 AM
Does anyone have, like, official confirmation of this - not some kid/guy off WoW?

I'm officially calling BS on the story.

Yvan256
Aug 28, 2006, 08:56 AM
Man drops iPod in toilet on flight to Canada. Terror scare ensues.

Ok... if I combine this with the #1 movie in Canada right now... Does that mean a new movie is coming up?

"iPods on a Plane"

:D

machappymeal
Aug 28, 2006, 09:00 AM
Scary stuff indeed.

wmmk
Aug 28, 2006, 09:41 AM
Does anyone have, like, official confirmation of this - not some kid/guy off WoW?

I'm officially calling BS on the story.
nope, no conformation, but really, who's weird enough to make up a whole story like this, then post it on some WoW forum just for kicks? if he's BSing, he really must have no life.

iGary
Aug 28, 2006, 09:42 AM
nope, no conformation, but really, who's weird enough to make up a whole story like this, then post it on some WoW forum just for kicks? if he's BSing, he really must have no life.

What do WoW players do fo hours on end.... waste time. :D

Until I see this from a reputable news source...

thedoctor
Aug 28, 2006, 10:45 AM
What do WoW players do fo hours on end.... waste time. :D

Until I see this from a reputable news source...

If you read the WoW forum posting then you would see the following given as supporting evidence:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/city/story.html?id=13eeb9ec-bc82-41dd-8a6d-9072db1688e4
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/08/16/1758016-sun.html
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=1c0072fe-4d98-44e4-8414-652f83e27868
http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/serving_ottawa/media_room/news.cfm?nr_id=3383

Sadly it sounds all too true .. far too much FUD around these days ... I suspect you are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to/from the airport than from anything that could happen on a plane flight!

iGary
Aug 28, 2006, 10:57 AM
If you read the WoW forum posting then you would see the following given as supporting evidence:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/city/story.html?id=13eeb9ec-bc82-41dd-8a6d-9072db1688e4
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/08/16/1758016-sun.html
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=1c0072fe-4d98-44e4-8414-652f83e27868
http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/serving_ottawa/media_room/news.cfm?nr_id=3383

Sadly it sounds all too true .. far too much FUD around these days ... I suspect you are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to/from the airport than from anything that could happen on a plane flight!

I stand corrected - I didn't peruse the entire length of the thread.

I am still skeptical of the person's reports of what he said and what the agent said, though.

Additionally I'd rather they land the plane and be safe rather than have pieces of me blown for miles across the Great Lakes.

mac 2005
Aug 28, 2006, 12:27 PM
nope, no conformation, but really, who's weird enough to make up a whole story like this, then post it on some WoW forum just for kicks? if he's BSing, he really must have no life.

You'd be surprised. Just look at all the people on MacRumors who post bogus information about new Apple products that they learned about from a friend of a friend of a friend who talked to some guy who rides the bus that passes Apple HQ in Cupertino.

wmmk
Aug 28, 2006, 12:33 PM
You'd be surprised. Just look at all the people on MacRumors who post bogus information about new Apple products that they learned about from a friend of a friend of a friend who talked to some guy who rides the bus that passes Apple HQ in Cupertino.
yeah, but those are short posts (mostly), whereas this was a ful 2 page account of what happened.

dmw007
Aug 28, 2006, 05:09 PM
Additionally I'd rather they land the plane and be safe rather than have pieces of me blown for miles across the Great Lakes.


Same here- I guess that it is better to be safe than sorry. :o :)

shadowfax
Aug 29, 2006, 03:52 AM
Additionally I'd rather they land the plane and be safe rather than have pieces of me blown for miles across the Great Lakes.

No, I would call that monumental mismanagement of a potential threat. The reason is that it took them so long to evacuate the plane. If you have a possible bomb threat at hand, the LAST thing you want to do is make the passengers sit in the damn plane for thirty minutes! You land the plane, and while it's landing, you get some people in a bus or something--or evacuate them out onto the tarmac--anything to get them away from the threat as soon as is reasonably possible.

The other thing is, there's no reason to take 4 hours to gird up the balls to check out an aircraft. Not when you know exactly where the suspicious device is. They opted in favor of letting terrorism win--by detaining everyone for 4-5 hours and more, not to mention being total douchebags. You find the iPod, and realize that it was all just a mistake, and what do you do? oh yeah, the logical thing--interrogate the poor guy more, inspect his laptop without any probable cause... why? of course, because you've realized that you look a shade silly, now, you've farked things up... of course, the best thing to do in this case is try to find something bad about this person--he was a pedophile, or a compulsive gambler, so we didn't do our job so bad!

humbug!