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P-S-3
Aug 28, 2006, 11:22 PM
Ok I am making a Mac-only Video game with Apple Head CEO, Steve Jobs, as the main character. Enemies will include anything Microsoft. This game will rock your socks when it is completed. I will not be hosting my game for everyone to play until I progress farther. Check back often for updates.

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UPDATE 5: Heres a small update. Today I was busy, but I made this poof for when the x-bot dies. The image quality is bad because it is a gif, but you get the idea. In-game it looks pretty cool. I also got rid of the overly excessive explosion from the Shuffle bullets. It is now a very very small explosion...tiny!

Poof:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5637/pooofhe7.gif

Shuffle Explosion:

From This: http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9533/explosion9ig0.gif To this: http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5860/005be9.gif

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UPDATE 4:Well, I tweaked some things and made a second video to show my progress. Please note that a lot of things are still screwed up because I really can't fiddle around with Power Game Factory when it is a demo. When I get the full version I can tweak stuff within the engine. ie: pop-up messages, icons, weapons, AI characteristics (For instance, I don't want the X-Bot to jump, and I want it to be more aggressive), Pretty much make the game a whole lot cooler looking and run more smoothly. The Level I created is based off the Windows XP "hills" theme and it is pretty bland but it is better than the default level shown in my 1st video. X-Bot isn't spitting out viruses just yet...sry. I also want the enemies to fade away after dying. I need to still impliment the Parallax scrolling technique to give the back hills more perspective. I still want to add animated scenery, interactive stuff, the works...but again, I can't do this until I get the Full product in about week. SO with what I got to work with, this is what I've made so far. Again, there are many bugs that need to be fixed. This is just to show my progress. Thanks guys!

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5603/screenshot3rj1.png

Video Beta 2: Watch Here!!! (http://web.mac.com/lauriecichocki/iWeb/Steve%20Job%27s%20Adventure/Updates/91E1019F-5ADE-4E78-838C-BA21ADED680D_files/Video%20%202_1.mov) PS. there is no audio.

Oh, there will be an official website up soon...to also view my progress.:)

Tell me what you think...what needs change?

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UPDATE 3: Ok I ordered PGF and it should be here around Sept 4-10. Right now I've been busy with Enemies and Level Design. I made the "basic" 1st level, which is the XP "hills" theme. I still have to edit and add things, but here is a preview:

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/8721/minilvl1es1.th.jpg (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=minilvl1es1.jpg)
click to enlarge

I also have been working on Enemies. I created the "X-Bot" which is a robot controlled by Bill Gates that shoots viruses at you, and the "X-Tank" Which is the Xbox in tank form. It will probably shoot out the Zune as a bomb. The 360 version is more powerfull and will have different characteristics.

Virus X-Bot
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5348/screenshothw6.png

X-Tank 360
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7025/screenshot1kj7.png

X-Tank
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5863/screenshot2yq8.png

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UPDATE 2: Ok Wow! So many Ideas. I have to say straight up, I will not be able to add every idea in this forum into my game. I trying my best to make a fun game. I am taking all of the suggestions seriously however and a lot will be added, and you will be credited for your ideas. The Apple "Switch" Theme will definantly be part of the game. The Applecare 1 Up is a great idea that will be put in. I have to wait until Sept. 4 until i can get my hands on the full version of PGF, and use it to its potential because the developer is on vacation. Anywho, until then I am doing graphics/level design....and I need the Ideas to keep coming, because of course the game is for all of you Mac fans!

I'm not sure on the whole Logos as enemies idea, because it is kinda cheesy. I have created a Bill Gates-Remote-Controlled Virus robot that will be the basic enemy that will shoot viruses at you that can freeze you in place, unless you have the Firewall activated ;).

Bill Gates-Remote-Controlled Virus robot (In Progress):

Virus X-Bot Pic (http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8421/screenshotvp9.png)

I really need Level Design Ideas. Right now I just have the Final Stage as being inside the Microsft Industrial Plant to fight the Bill Gates Mech. So Levels Ideas...now!

Thanks Everyone for the support. I will try to get this game completed as soon as possible. There will probably be a Beta test eventually.

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UPDATE 1: I have been working on SJA and I tweaked some stuff. First, I need a final Steve Jobs Character. Right now I changed his shirt to black and gave him an iPod-shooting pistol (no more groin missiles...sry). The pistol shoots out shuffles rapidly, and then I have the nano as a homing missle right now, the Video iPod as a grenade. But I need to start working on The Enemys, so If you don't like how steve looks, speak up now!

New Steve:

Steve Pic (http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6398/sjadvlvl1yj6va8.png)

I also need help with Levels. I know that the final Level will be Inside the Microsoft Industrial Plant where you fight a Robotic Bill Gates as the Final Boss. I need to start designing the regular levels and I don't know what they should be...

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Here is a preview of the 15% completed 1st level:

Video:Steve Jobs Adventure Alpha (http://web.mac.com/lauriecichocki/iWeb/CyDigital/Welcome_files/Steve%20Jobs%20Alpha.mov)



Lixivial
Aug 28, 2006, 11:32 PM
Why are red projectiles coming from his groinal region?

Mavimao
Aug 28, 2006, 11:32 PM
Steve has fiery ejaculate.


Nice touch.

BurtonCCC
Aug 28, 2006, 11:33 PM
I know making people takes longer, but some ideas for enemies:

Bill Gates
Steve Ballmer
XBOX
XBOX 360
Windows XP Home Box
Windows XP Pro Box (Harder to beat?)
Windows Vista Box
Zune
Creative Logo

Daniel.

2nyRiggz
Aug 28, 2006, 11:43 PM
Why is SJ pissing on the windows logo...couldn't he throw apples at it or something?




Bless

Kingsly
Aug 29, 2006, 12:14 AM
I know making people takes longer, but some ideas for enemies:

Bill Gates
Steve Ballmer
XBOX
XBOX 360
Windows XP Home Box
Windows XP Pro Box (Harder to beat?)
Windows Vista Box
Zune
Creative Logo

Daniel.
Steve ballmer should be the big evil fire breathing boss. Gates should be the main boss that is small, geeky, and pathetic, but has a robotic exoskeleton or something. Steve Jobs should throw iPods (shuffles for regular bullets, Nanos for rapid fire, and 5G iPods for missiles.) and get mac related power ups (a Mac Book Pro could be like a land mine that burns enemies??:p ) The most rare powerup is a Mac Pro (makes him temporarily invincible?) , and the most common: Mac mini (more shuffle ammo) ... MacBook (nano ammo) and iMac (5G ammo)
Also, would it be possible to make his jeans darker blue and shirt more black, with no backpack??
I can not WAIT for this game to come out!!!

Foxglove9
Aug 29, 2006, 12:28 AM
How is that Power Game Factory program? I've wanted to try it for the longest time. Is it easy/hard to use?

ZoomZoomZoom
Aug 29, 2006, 12:32 AM
The projectiles look hilarious.

I think it is a fun idea =]

jessica.
Aug 29, 2006, 12:33 AM
hahah that is awesome. But SJ is lookin' a bit more tan than I remember!

Also, was there supposed to be sound?

sikkinixx
Aug 29, 2006, 12:42 AM
how can I put this as cleanly as possible.. ?
if thats what SJ shoots out from down there....damn his wife must have loins of steel to take that blast...

Cybix
Aug 29, 2006, 12:43 AM
AND.. make it so if you hold down a button or series of buttons before starting the game you can unlock the hidden 'WOZ' character, and play as WOZ...

I love it, when does it go on sale?

thegreatluke
Aug 29, 2006, 01:09 AM
That seems awesome :D

Keep up the good work P-S-3!

katie ta achoo
Aug 29, 2006, 01:20 AM
...couldn't he throw apples at it or something?

that would be incredibly cute! :)

BlizzardBomb
Aug 29, 2006, 04:02 AM
He should be throwing cameras (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnVUvW42CUA), he's already shown his experience at that ;)

sunfast
Aug 29, 2006, 04:24 AM
That's very impressive! Clearly too much free time... ;)

GFLPraxis
Aug 29, 2006, 04:43 AM
That's awesome, how long did it take you to code it?

Also, Bill Gates should be the final boss in a giant mech. Steve Ballmer should have some kind of armor, but once you break it down he turns into his "monkey boy" form and starts bouncing around the room :)

Dunepilot
Aug 29, 2006, 05:10 AM
This reminds me of the Emo Game (http://www.emogame.com). I can't wait to stove Michael Dell's face in when this is finished.

iUserz
Aug 29, 2006, 05:20 AM
That's awesome, how long did it take you to code it?

Also, Bill Gates should be the final boss in a giant mech. Steve Ballmer should have some kind of armor, but once you break it down he turns into his "monkey boy" form and starts bouncing around the room :)
pure genius!

Developers! Developers! Developers! don't forget that he has to throw chairs :D

greatdevourer
Aug 29, 2006, 06:30 AM
http://www.emogame.com/v2/podiconmyspace.gif That should be a support character :)

seenew
Aug 29, 2006, 06:39 AM
Jobs should be in jeans and a black shirt, DUH. FIX THIS.
FAST.

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 10:00 AM
OK.wow! I am impressed with the feedback. I am telling you right now. This WILL be a game you can play.

Now this is what I will have to fix/include:

-Steve wheres black shirt.
-No more projectiles out of groin, instead he throws iPods.
-Various power ups/health pickups.
-Enemies will include Bill Gates and Ballmer as bosses.
-I'm not sure what could be the basic enemie, instead of the windows icon. Someone could give some suggestions. Maybe just the 360,Vista,Virus idea will work.
-Levels get complete overhaul in visuals.

Thanks for the input. Please keep the ideas coming....

liketom
Aug 29, 2006, 10:08 AM
basic bad boys could be Viruses and Spyware

CJM
Aug 29, 2006, 10:32 AM
He should be throwing cameras (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnVUvW42CUA), he's already shown his experience at that ;)


Hahaha, that's great ^^ Specially the Quake crash.

Oh and the SJ game looks good too :) Keep it coming.

raggedjimmi
Aug 29, 2006, 10:55 AM
-Remove the shadow, 2D games like this don't need them, it appears to be floating?
-Nice camera work with deceleration though big flaw with positioning. When you move forward the camera should look ahead. this was a major problem with early Turrican games. there shouldn't be lag when moving forward. Take a look at Mario World or Cave Story (OSX) for a solution to this. Rather than have the camera look at the main sprite, have an invisible sprite that looks forward of the player sprite and the camera looks towards that instead.
-Bit more gravity on the "urine" heh, when the player jumps up it should alter the initial angle too. Not just for realism but for a gameplay/weapon mechanic.
-Much needed backgrounds, and some more foreground graphics too. Just to give it a visual beef up.

Overall I think you have a nice little freeware game in the making. Doesn't look as if you're too far in, there doesn't seem to be any gameplay as yet.

Gasu E.
Aug 29, 2006, 10:58 AM
Can I hotkey the RDF?

Zeke
Aug 29, 2006, 11:07 AM
The weapon could be the X logo for OS X. Probably easier to do than an iPod...and seriously, would Steve throw iPods?

Cute idea though.

Cheese
Aug 29, 2006, 11:15 AM
Definitely include the RDF as the "BFG9000" or major weapon equivalent. There needs to be a random pesky virus sort of drone villain, and a secret target that will "reboot/lockup/ Blue-screen-of-death" the game at random when "accidentally" hit. Also, you should have to download various drivers and codecs to progress to each successive level. For a progress level meter, you could have it progress as increments of gained market share...
Just my 2 cents... I would love to play this game

Silentwave
Aug 29, 2006, 11:30 AM
this is beautiful....can't wait to play the actual game!

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 02:08 PM
UPDATE 1: I have been working on SJA and I tweaked some stuff. First, I need a final Steve Jobs Character. Right now I changed his shirt to black and gave him an iPod-shooting pistol (no more groin missiles...sry). The pistol shoots out shuffles rapidly, and then I have the nano as a homing missle right now, the Video iPod as a grenade. But I need to start working on The Enemys, so If you don't like how steve looks, speak up now!

New Steve:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6398/sjadvlvl1yj6va8.png

I also need help with Levels. I know that the final Level will be Inside the Microsoft Industrial Plant where you fight a Robotic Bill Gates as the Final Boss. I need to start designing the regular levels and I don't know what they should be...

Steve Jobless
Aug 29, 2006, 02:35 PM
just remember microsoft used g5s for videos for xbox 360 games and 360s use ibm's powerpc chips so yeah......

dextertangocci
Aug 29, 2006, 02:36 PM
OMFG!!!

I NEED THIS GAME NOW!!!

Benjamindaines
Aug 29, 2006, 02:47 PM
UPDATE 1: I have been working on SJA and I tweaked some stuff. First, I need a final Steve Jobs Character. Right now I changed his shirt to black and gave him an iPod-shooting pistol (no more groin missiles...sry). The pistol shoots out shuffles rapidly, and then I have the nano as a homing missle right now, the Video iPod as a grenade. But I need to start working on The Enemys, so If you don't like how steve looks, speak up now!

New Steve:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6398/sjadvlvl1yj6va8.png

I also need help with Levels. I know that the final Level will be Inside the Microsoft Industrial Plant where you fight a Robotic Bill Gates as the Final Boss. I need to start designing the regular levels and I don't know what they should be...
He looks chubby in that, perhaps make the head smaller or the body taller.

BlizzardBomb
Aug 29, 2006, 02:57 PM
Some quotes you should record off keynotes that should occasionally play:

"I didn't want to do that.", "Oops." - When Steve gets hit
"Boom.", "Really Great" - Hit an enemy
"Shipping today" - For a level based on a boat :p
"One more thing..." - About to deliver a finishing blow
"Ottomatic" - Using an automatic weapon

Umm... and some others I can't think of.

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 03:14 PM
Some quotes you should record off keynotes that should occasionally play:

"I didn't want to do that.", "Oops." - When Steve gets hit
"Boom.", "Really Great" - Hit an enemy
"Shipping today" - For a level based on a boat :p
"One more thing..." - About to deliver a finishing blow
"Ottomatic" - Using an automatic weapon

Umm... and some others I can't think of.
Thats a great Idea...but I don't have the mental energy to be sifting through Keynotes for quotes. So if someone wants to do it for me and send me the audio I will include the quotes, or if these quotes are online somewhere. Great Idea!

Semperfiero
Aug 29, 2006, 03:15 PM
Even after you defeat Bill Gates you should have to kill windows vista in a 3 staged battle. When WV is vanquished it should shrivle up into a window millenium box or blue screen of death.

CJM
Aug 29, 2006, 03:27 PM
I love this thread and I love everyone's creativity and input :)

Mac users should make more games :)

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 03:44 PM
Hows this Face for the Bill Gates Mech Bot? Steve enters the final stage with his explosive iPods and Bill is thinking.....* Oh SH!* Steve is here!*

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8476/billgatesclearpz5.png

It is still a little rough...but i'll work on it.
HAHA this is gunna be great!

AliensAreFuzzy
Aug 29, 2006, 03:45 PM
Some quotes you should record off keynotes that should occasionally play:

"I didn't want to do that.", "Oops." - When Steve gets hit
"Boom.", "Really Great" - Hit an enemy
"Shipping today" - For a level based on a boat :p
"One more thing..." - About to deliver a finishing blow
"Ottomatic" - Using an automatic weapon

Umm... and some others I can't think of.
"Scrolls Like Butter" when he kills a bunch of bad guys without being hit

viccles
Aug 29, 2006, 04:04 PM
That is sooooooo cool. I can't wait to play

jamesi
Aug 29, 2006, 04:06 PM
I know making people takes longer, but some ideas for enemies:

Bill Gates
Steve Ballmer
XBOX
XBOX 360
Windows XP Home Box
Windows XP Pro Box (Harder to beat?)
Windows Vista Box
Zune
Creative Logo

Daniel.

throw in windows me just for kicks

dextertangocci
Aug 29, 2006, 04:07 PM
Thats a great Idea...but I don't have the mental energy to be sifting through Keynotes for quotes. So if someone wants to do it for me and send me the audio I will include the quotes, or if these quotes are online somewhere. Great Idea!

All the keynotes are on www.epowiki.org

You have to register, but if you don't want to I suppose I could give you the passwords:

Access to videos (on main page): equilibrium

Password to download videos: hZyC6tuA

(sshhh, don't tell anyone!:p )

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 04:19 PM
All the keynotes are on www.epowiki.org

You have to register, but if you don't want to I suppose I could give you the passwords:

Access to videos (on main page): equilibrium

Password to download videos: hZyC6tuA

(sshhh, don't tell anyone!:p )

Cool, But the link doesnt work for me.....hmmm.

BlizzardBomb
Aug 29, 2006, 04:23 PM
Cool, But the link doesnt work for me.....hmmm.

Yeah that's because it's meant to be www.expowiki.org :)

I might find the relevant quotes and post them here later or tomorrow.

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 04:41 PM
Yeah that's because it's meant to be www.expowiki.org :)

I might find the relevant quotes and post them here later or tomorrow.
Thats man, thats awesome....People who help get a place in the Credits section. ;) Wahoooo.

BlizzardBomb
Aug 29, 2006, 04:46 PM
Downloading the keynotes on that is painfully slow >.< 33 KB/sec means it'll take a few hours.

Unorthodox
Aug 29, 2006, 04:57 PM
That's awesome, how long did it take you to code it?
Thats the great thing about Power Game Factory (http://www.sawbladesoftware.com/), no coding is required.
You just add your own graphics and sound effects.


It's really cool.
I can't wait to see the finished version. :)

P-S-3, I hope you hurry up and finish the game before the demo expires!
Or buy the full version. It's worth it.

SuperCompu2
Aug 29, 2006, 05:06 PM
I think either a Woz or chomping apple logo would be neat support characters

harveypooka
Aug 29, 2006, 05:08 PM
Steve has fiery ejaculate.

Hahahah! Ewwww....

Tommyg117
Aug 29, 2006, 05:09 PM
haha I'm a huge fan of the red fireballs coming from his crotch. Steve can really do that.

harveypooka
Aug 29, 2006, 05:10 PM
haha I'm a huge fan of the red fireballs coming from his crotch. Steve can really do that.

I....am....not!

BlizzardBomb
Aug 29, 2006, 05:16 PM
Thats the great thing about Power Game Factory (http://www.sawbladesoftware.com/), no coding is required.
You just add your own graphics and sound effects.


It's really cool.
I can't wait to see the finished version. :)

P-S-3, I hope you hurry up and finish the game before the demo expires!
Or buy the full version. It's worth it.

It doesn't expire.

Try Power Game Factory for as long as you want, free of charge.

thegreatluke
Aug 29, 2006, 05:25 PM
I have some ideas!

- Steve can open a can of viruses on PC's?
- A firewall that protects from damage?
- The Big S whips out a Mac to distract the enemies with the Mac's beauty?
- Steve can call Buddha to help kick some ass?

IMHO, the Steve looks a bit... portly.
How about a Steve made out of "Google-Image" cutouts, Jibjab style (http://www.jibjab.com/JokeBox/JokeBox_JJOrig.aspx)?

Enemy ideas:
Early:
- Xerox boxes
- Amiga boxes
- DOS boxes
- Bugs
Middle:
- PC boxes
- Non-Jobs Apple CEO's (Gil Amelio, etc.)
- Other CEO's (Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, etc.)
- Lawsuits with Microsoft
- Virusesssss (against non-OS X)
- CLONES
Late:
- Independent bloggers
- Windows Vista
- Creative, iriver, etc.
- Windows Media Player

OOHHHH!!!! How about... Steve starts out with AppleDOS, then he upgrades... and when he upgrades to Mac OS X, he's invulnerable to viruses?

And some other things!
Random powerups that can either be beneficial or hurt Steve?
Examples: Macintosh Portable (bad, early), Newton (bad, middle), PMG4 Cube (bad, late), Macintosh 1984 (good, early), Mac mini (good, late), iMac (good, late), iPod (very good, late) etc. etc.

raggedjimmi
Aug 29, 2006, 05:32 PM
Oh that's easy. Anything Commodore won in Europe ;)

GFLPraxis
Aug 29, 2006, 07:01 PM
OK.wow! I am impressed with the feedback. I am telling you right now. This WILL be a game you can play.

Now this is what I will have to fix/include:

-Steve wheres black shirt.
-No more projectiles out of groin, instead he throws iPods.
-Various power ups/health pickups.
-Enemies will include Bill Gates and Ballmer as bosses.
-I'm not sure what could be the basic enemie, instead of the windows icon. Someone could give some suggestions. Maybe just the 360,Vista,Virus idea will work.
-Levels get complete overhaul in visuals.

Thanks for the input. Please keep the ideas coming....

As a child and teen I always spent hours imagining how I'd create games. I expect once I finish my computer science degree I'll do what raggedjimmi does and make my own little 2D games. I'll give as much input as possible. :)

The Windows logos are huge and easy to hit- you'll need some variety of enemies all sizes with different move sets, of course.

One idea is a Zune that shoots miniature PlaysForSure (Microsoft's DRM) icons for bullets.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/features/2004/10-12playsforsure.jpg
It is kinda bulletshaped...

Alternatively, you can use this logo.
http://homepage.mac.com/macgyvr64/playsforsure.jpg

This enemy could be a sort of sniper, shooting directly at you from a distance (say, shoot, shoot, shoot, pause, shoot, shoot, shoot, pause), forcing the player to wait for the opening before attacking it. Alternatively it could be kind of a "wave" shooter- i.e., shooting a wave of shots at a time, not directly at the player, just all over the place, that you have to dodge while you approach.


Michael Dell would make a good boss. And Paul Thurrott.

XBox 1's have to be tanker enemies- they have a lot of HP, they're huge, and they come for you. And they swing flaming power cords!

Even after you defeat Bill Gates you should have to kill windows vista in a 3 staged battle. When WV is vanquished it should shrivle up into a window millenium box or blue screen of death.

Except Windows Vista never shows up for the battle, because it got delayed. However, after defeating Bill, during the credits you are told that you can fight Vista in the sequel. :p

GFLPraxis
Aug 29, 2006, 08:48 PM
Thats the great thing about Power Game Factory (http://www.sawbladesoftware.com/), no coding is required.
You just add your own graphics and sound effects.


It's really cool.
I can't wait to see the finished version. :)

P-S-3, I hope you hurry up and finish the game before the demo expires!
Or buy the full version. It's worth it.

That's awesome!
What features does the full version have that the demo does not?

Benjamindaines
Aug 29, 2006, 08:59 PM
That's awesome!
What features does the full version have that the demo does not?
With the full version you can have more then one level and run it for more then 15 mins at a time.

Unorthodox
Aug 29, 2006, 09:11 PM
With the full version you can have more then one level and run it for more then 15 mins at a time.
Oh thats right.
I couldn't remember. I thought it was a timed demo.

The full version has a few extra things as well.
Background music, background tiles and some other random items.

Kingsly
Aug 29, 2006, 09:16 PM
Definitely include the RDF as the "BFG9000" or major weapon equivalent. There needs to be a random pesky virus sort of drone villain, and a secret target that will "reboot/lockup/ Blue-screen-of-death" the game at random when "accidentally" hit. Also, you should have to download various drivers and codecs to progress to each successive level. For a progress level meter, you could have it progress as increments of gained market share...
Just my 2 cents... I would love to play this game

The RDF should be equivalent to the magic star in mario, except in addition to making SJ invincible there should be an aqua-like orb that surrounds and protects him and kills enemies on contact.

I also agree that if SJ dies there should be a blue screen of death.

finally, I would love a progress meter that fills up market share (like coins in super mario).

I do get a game credit, right? ;)

EDIT: found the game soundtrack (http://homepage.mac.com/dwright1/switch.mp3)!

Unorthodox
Aug 29, 2006, 09:25 PM
Oh, and extra lives (1ups) should be little AppleCare boxes.

EDIT: found the game soundtrack (http://homepage.mac.com/dwright1/switch.mp3)!
Ahhh! Perfect!

Kingsly
Aug 29, 2006, 09:27 PM
Oh, and extra lives (1ups) should be little AppleCare boxes.
Yess!!!!!

Unorthodox
Aug 29, 2006, 09:38 PM
Oh! Oh!
And the first 45 seconds of audio from this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y89wBYVHkY4) video for the boss battle with Ballmer. :D



I think where going to fast for P-S-3....

Tommyg117
Aug 29, 2006, 09:46 PM
Hows this Face for the Bill Gates Mech Bot? Steve enters the final stage with his explosive iPods and Bill is thinking.....* Oh SH!* Steve is here!*

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8476/billgatesclearpz5.png

It is still a little rough...but i'll work on it.
HAHA this is gunna be great!hahaha, classic. He looks like a T-Rex. Maybe Steve could transform into a super human form, the Stevosaurus Mac.

P-S-3
Aug 29, 2006, 10:48 PM
I do get a game credit, right? ;)

EDIT: found the game soundtrack (http://homepage.mac.com/dwright1/switch.mp3)!

Ok Wow! So many Ideas. I have to say straight up, I will not be able to add every idea in this forum into my game. I trying my best to make a fun game. I am taking all of the suggestions seriously however and a lot will be added, and you will be credited for your ideas. This soundtrack is awesome. I this will be part of the game. The Applecare 1 Up is a great idea that will be put in. I have to wait until Sept. 4 until i can get my hands on the full version of PGF, and use it to its potential because the developer is on vacation. Anywho, until then I am doing graphics/level design....and I need the Ideas to keep coming, because of course the game is for all of you Mac fans!

I'm not sure on the whole Logos as enemies idea, because it is kinda cheesy. I have created a Bill Gates-Remote-Controlled Virus robot that will be the basic enemy that will shoot viruses at you that can freeze you in place, unless you have the Firewall activated ;).

I really need Level Design Ideas. Right now I just have the Final Stage as being inside the Microsft Industrial Plant to fight the Bill Gates Mech. So Levels Ideas...now!

Thanks Everyone for the support. I will try to get this game completed as soon as possible. There will probably be a Beta test eventually.

thegreatluke
Aug 29, 2006, 11:17 PM
Maybe Steve could be "clock speeded" while fighting against Gates! :D

GFLPraxis
Aug 30, 2006, 12:40 AM
I'd recommend for the boss music, at least against Ballmer:
Low-fi preview:
http://www.digitaldroomedia.com/audio_samples/MonkeyDev_Sample.mp3
Full quality download:
http://www.digitaldroomedia.com/freemusic/MonkeyDevelopers.zip

GFLPraxis
Aug 30, 2006, 01:27 AM
I really need Level Design Ideas. Right now I just have the Final Stage as being inside the Microsft Industrial Plant to fight the Bill Gates Mech. So Levels Ideas...now!

Intro Stage: Outdoors, in green grassy fields not unlike the Windows XP default desktop. Simple enemies. The boss is a Windows PC (Alienware? Dell XPS?) and throws corn kernels at you when he starts losing and panics (get it? kernel panic?).

Second or third stage: GameStop. Destroy all the XBoxes. Final boss is an XBox 360.

Somewhere in the middle of the game: Fighting through a tech store such as CompUSA, Steve Jobs fights off generic Dells, and Microsoft Zunes utilizing their DRM as weapons (using PlaysForSure icons as bullets).

Difficult platforming stage near the end of the game: Steve Jobs enters a computer and has to jump between moving windows that function as platforms. Do cool stuff, like using desktop icons as platforms.
Boss: RealPlayer's miniature mode.

Ballmer's level: You fight through Microsoft's offices, and finally reach a keynote stage where you fight Ballmer. Ballmer is small and quick.

Final level: Microsoft Industrial Plant. Here, a new enemy appears- Beta copies of Windows Vista. Very difficult, quick little enemies. After eliminating them you must fight Bill Gates in a giant mech, then blow up the factory.

Kingsly
Aug 30, 2006, 01:29 AM
I'd recommend for the boss music, at least against Ballmer:
Low-fi preview:
http://www.digitaldroomedia.com/audio_samples/MonkeyDev_Sample.mp3
Full quality download:
http://www.digitaldroomedia.com/freemusic/MonkeyDevelopers.zip
:D
Perfect. Now we just need some quotes from Bill Gates for his battle scene. How about when he dies, he says that quote about the mac being the best machine. This (http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/movies.html) may be useful.

How about Paul Thurrott as the first boss, Monkeyboy as the second one, and Bill/Mech as the final showdown in Microsoft headquarters?

GFLPraxis
Aug 30, 2006, 01:49 AM
:D
Perfect. Now we just need some quotes from Bill Gates for his battle scene. How about when he dies, he says that quote about the mac being the best machine. This (http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/movies.html) may be useful.

How about Paul Thurrott as the first boss, Monkeyboy as the second one, and Bill/Mech as the final showdown in Microsoft headquarters?

Paul Thurrott -> Michael Dell -> Clippy The Evil Paperclip ->MonkeyBoy -> Bill/Mech.

If you need a filler boss throw in an XBox 360 somewhere.

But we HAVE to be able to kill the Paperclip.
http://graphics.ink19.com/issues/march2003/clippy.jpeg
Also, make the mythical PowerBook G5 the ultimate upgrade, but ultra-rare, like the Tanooki suit in Mario Bros 3. Say, temporary invincibility and all your shots are Video iPods or something powerful.

Kingsly
Aug 30, 2006, 03:28 AM
Paul Thurrott -> Michael Dell -> Clippy The Evil Paperclip ->MonkeyBoy -> Bill/Mech.

If you need a filler boss throw in an XBox 360 somewhere.

But we HAVE to be able to kill the Paperclip.
I totally forgot Clippy! Also, what about the search dog? Not evil enough?

Also, make the mythical PowerBook G5 the ultimate upgrade, but ultra-rare, like the Tanooki suit in Mario Bros 3. Say, temporary invincibility and all your shots are Video iPods or something powerful.I needs to be more, as the RDF gives temporary invincibility and kills on contact. How about on every level there is the ultra mythical G5 PB in a reallly hard to get place (basically impossible) but, as an easter egg, if you DO get it it instantly kills all the enemies on the current map (excluding bosses).

Also, I don't really like Steve's backpack that much... would it be possible to remove it?
The robots are great... make sure somewhere on it is a Microsoft logo.

EDIT: Ohh! I just had a thought bubble! How about XP logos are landmines, and when Steve steps on them they play the XP login chime (I HATE that stupid chime) and explode. "Di da da da di da da BOOM!"

GFLPraxis
Aug 30, 2006, 03:43 AM
Or perhaps there are PEICES of a PowerBook G5 hidden in each level, if you get them all you unlock the secret last level...and the secret last boss (who must be ridiculously awesome).

Oh yeah, the search dog would make an awesome boss for the first level. Easy, yet fun to beat on.

BlizzardBomb
Aug 30, 2006, 05:26 AM
Here you go.

Boom (http://www.zshare.net/audio/boom-mp3-sh4.html)

I didn't want to do that. (http://www.zshare.net/audio/ididntwanttodothat-mp3.html)

Shipping Today (http://www.zshare.net/audio/shippingtoday-mp3.html)

Dunepilot
Aug 30, 2006, 06:31 AM
Level designs

- I'd definitely like to see a level in a major non-Mac computer bricks-and-mortar retailer (CompUSA as the guy suggested above, or PC World in the UK). Ignorant sales clerks could be an in-joke character here, perhaps getting in the way while lifting no-name beige PCs rather than being an enemy that fires something.

- You could have some sort of level set in an Apple Store (probably the new 'cube'-style store). Not sure who the enemies there would be, but I'm sure someone else would have suggestions. Maybe a hoard of ravening Mac zealots obsessed with rumours ;)

- You should definitely have a Borg-style Dell factory with assembly lines putting together thousands of charmless PCs ready to be infected by a virus sprite. They could then spring to life as the virus robots. This is where you'd have Michael Dell as the end of level baddie.

- Not a level design idea, but one that I'd really like to see included would be some sort of level with Jobs versus Paul McCartney/Yoko Ono and the two Apple logos displayed somewhere prominently onscreen.

Just some ideas, anyway. Looking forward to playing this.

P-S-3
Aug 30, 2006, 07:07 AM
I'd recommend for the boss music, at least against Ballmer:
Low-fi preview:
http://www.digitaldroomedia.com/audio_samples/MonkeyDev_Sample.mp3
Full quality download:
http://www.digitaldroomedia.com/freemusic/MonkeyDevelopers.zip
Awesome...totally being added.
Intro Stage: Outdoors, in green grassy fields not unlike the Windows XP default desktop. Simple enemies. The boss is a Windows PC (Alienware? Dell XPS?) and throws corn kernels at you when he starts losing and panics (get it? kernel panic?).

Second or third stage: GameStop. Destroy all the XBoxes. Final boss is an XBox 360.

Somewhere in the middle of the game: Fighting through a tech store such as CompUSA, Steve Jobs fights off generic Dells, and Microsoft Zunes utilizing their DRM as weapons (using PlaysForSure icons as bullets).

Difficult platforming stage near the end of the game: Steve Jobs enters a computer and has to jump between moving windows that function as platforms. Do cool stuff, like using desktop icons as platforms.
Boss: RealPlayer's miniature mode.

Ballmer's level: You fight through Microsoft's offices, and finally reach a keynote stage where you fight Ballmer. Ballmer is small and quick.

Final level: Microsoft Industrial Plant. Here, a new enemy appears- Beta copies of Windows Vista. Very difficult, quick little enemies. After eliminating them you must fight Bill Gates in a giant mech, then blow up the factory.
I like these ideas....the fields, ebgames/gamestop, compusa, office....great.
Perfect. Now we just need some quotes from Bill Gates for his battle scene. How about when he dies, he says that quote about the mac being the best machine. This may be useful.
Oh Yea! I have that Video...cool.
Paul Thurrott -> Michael Dell -> Clippy The Evil Paperclip ->MonkeyBoy -> Bill/Mech.

If you need a filler boss throw in an XBox 360 somewhere.

But we HAVE to be able to kill the Paperclip
Yes!, maybe we can kill the paperclip in a hidden stage....hmmm.
Also, I don't really like Steve's backpack that much... would it be possible to remove it?
The robots are great... make sure somewhere on it is a Microsoft logo.
Ok i'll remove it and give him less gut. I will try to put the Microsoft logo on the robot, but it will be un-readable becaus eof the size of the robot....
Or perhaps there are PEICES of a PowerBook G5 hidden in each level, if you get them all you unlock the secret last level...and the secret last boss (who must be ridiculously awesome).

Oh yeah, the search dog would make an awesome boss for the first level. Easy, yet fun to beat on.
I like this Idea to unlock a secret level.
Here you go.

Boom

I didn't want to do that.

Shipping Today
Awesome.Thanks a lot though for doing these quotes!
- You should definitely have a Borg-style Dell factory with assembly lines putting together thousands of charmless PCs ready to be infected by a virus sprite. They could then spring to life as the virus robots. This is where you'd have Michael Dell as the end of level baddie.
The PC production line is a good idea...

Kingsly
Aug 30, 2006, 12:52 PM
Ok i'll remove it and give him less gut. I will try to put the Microsoft logo on the robot, but it will be un-readable becaus eof the size of the robot....
How about a windows logo? (sorry for the weird B/G, I'll try to get a better shot when Im not running late to a meeting)

GFLPraxis
Aug 30, 2006, 02:10 PM
Here you go.

Boom (http://www.zshare.net/audio/boom-mp3-sh4.html)

I didn't want to do that. (http://www.zshare.net/audio/ididntwanttodothat-mp3.html)

Shipping Today (http://www.zshare.net/audio/shippingtoday-mp3.html)

Links not working...?

BlizzardBomb
Aug 30, 2006, 03:11 PM
Links not working...?

Eeeek. Working earlier on, did the creator grab them?

P-S-3
Aug 30, 2006, 03:14 PM
Eeeek. Working earlier on, did the creator grab them?
Yea...I got the three quotes. Thanks Again! Also I do have the windows logo on the robot for the person who suggested it.

viccles
Aug 30, 2006, 05:26 PM
Whats the timeline for this games completion? I'm busting to play! :D

BlizzardBomb
Aug 30, 2006, 05:53 PM
Whats the timeline for this games completion? I'm busting to play! :D

Me too :D Buuuut, don't rush it P-S-3 :)

P-S-3
Aug 30, 2006, 08:49 PM
Whats the timeline for this games completion? I'm busting to play! :D
Thanks for the eagerness Guys! I really want it to get done also. But I started this game 3 days ago and I feel i've done a lot already...which is good. I wont get the full copy of PGF until Sept. 4, so I really can't get my hands dirty until then. I still have to learn more about the Programs capabilities. I also have school and Work....so thats eats up time. I will work on the game every second I have. I am planning to get The full copy of PGF and then start by getting all the basic enemies and the Final Steve Jobs. I will create the 1st level and send a Beta Test for bugs/feedback. Lets say I have the Beta 1st level by Sept. 15. that gives me 11 days to make the first level + school and work. When this game does get out...there will be no dissapointment, i Promise! Thanks again everyone! Ya know this game is for all those Macheads out there :p! I will be adding updates every so often I progress, so stay tuned.

dextertangocci
Aug 31, 2006, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the eagerness Guys! I really want it to get done also. But I started this game 3 days ago and I feel i've done a lot already...which is good. I wont get the full copy of PGF until Sept. 4, so I really can't get my hands dirty until then. I still have to learn more about the Programs capabilities. I also have school and Work....so thats eats up time. I will work on the game every second I have. I am planning to get The full copy of PGF and then start by getting all the basic enemies and the Final Steve Jobs. I will create the 1st level and send a Beta Test for bugs/feedback. Lets say I have the Beta 1st level by Sept. 15. that gives me 11 days to make the first level + school and work. When this game does get out...there will be no dissapointment, i Promise! Thanks again everyone! Ya know this game is for all those Macheads out there :p! I will be adding updates every so often I progress, so stay tuned.

YAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Kingsly
Sep 1, 2006, 05:55 PM
P-S-3, Is it possible to get a new video up showing all the improvements you have made?

Also, here is a preliminary RDF to surround Steve.

P-S-3
Sep 1, 2006, 06:14 PM
P-S-3, Is it possible to get a new video up showing all the improvements you have made?

Also, here is a preliminary RDF to surround Steve.

Yes, I will post an updated video sometime in the next hour. Oh and cool graphic....BTW call me stupid, but what is RDF???:o

Unorthodox
Sep 1, 2006, 06:51 PM
Yes, I will post an updated video sometime in the next hour. Oh and cool graphic....BTW call me stupid, but what is RDF???:o
Reality Distortion Field.
Steve's famous charm.
Basically it means invisibility.

P-S-3
Sep 1, 2006, 07:17 PM
I need to fix some bugs before i make a video...so i'll need a couple hours check back tonight....sry.

P-S-3
Sep 1, 2006, 11:02 PM
UPDATE 4:

Well, I tweaked some things and made a second video to show my progress. Please note that a lot of things are still screwed up because I really can't fiddle around with Power Game Factory when it is a demo. When I get the full version I can tweak stuff within the engine. ie: pop-up messages, icons, weapons, AI characteristics (For instance, I don't want the X-Bot to jump, and I want it to be more aggressive), Pretty much make the game a whole lot cooler looking and run more smoothly. The Level I created is based off the Windows XP "hills" theme and it is pretty bland but it is better than the default level shown in my 1st video. X-Bot isn't spitting out viruses just yet...sry. I also want the enemies to fade away after dying. I need to still impliment the Parallax scrolling technique to give the back hills more perspective. I still want to add animated scenery, interactive stuff, the works...but again, I can't do this until I get the Full product in about week. SO with what I got to work with, this is what I've made so far. Again, there are many bugs that need to be fixed. This is just to show my progress. Thanks guys!

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5603/screenshot3rj1.png

Video Beta 2: Watch Here!!! (http://web.mac.com/lauriecichocki/iWeb/CyDigital/Welcome_files/Video%20%202.mov) PS. there is no audio.

Oh, there will be an official website up soon...to also view my progress.:)

Tell me what you think...what needs change?

Benjamindaines
Sep 1, 2006, 11:13 PM
UPDATE 4:

Well, I tweaked some things and made a second video to show my progress. Please note that a lot of things are still screwed up because I really can't fiddle around with Power Game Factory when it is a demo. When I get the full version I can tweak stuff within the engine. ie: pop-up messages, icons, weapons, AI characteristics (For instance, I don't want the X-Bot to jump, and I want it to be more aggressive), Pretty much make the game a whole lot cooler looking and run more smoothly. The Level I created is based off the Windows XP "hills" theme and it is pretty bland but it is better than the default level shown in my 1st video. X-Bot isn't spitting out viruses just yet...sry. I also want the enemies to fade away after dying. I need to still impliment the Parallax scrolling technique to give the back hills more perspective. I still want to add animated scenery, interactive stuff, the works...but again, I can't do this until I get the Full product in about week. SO with what I got to work with, this is what I've made so far. Again, there are many bugs that need to be fixed. This is just to show my progress. Thanks guys!

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5603/screenshot3rj1.png

Video Beta 2: Watch Here!!! (http://web.mac.com/lauriecichocki/iWeb/CyDigital/Welcome_files/Video%20%202.mov) PS. there is no audio.

Oh, there will be an official website up soon...to also view my progress.:)

Tell me what you think...what needs change?
Is that a tampon he picks up right there?

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/232/picture2zc5.jpg

P-S-3
Sep 1, 2006, 11:22 PM
Is that a tampon he picks up right there?

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/232/picture2zc5.jpg
Lol, not its a shuffle...more shuffle ammo. I will edit that and make it more clear as to what it is....lol.

seenew
Sep 2, 2006, 01:23 AM
You should get 3 photos of someone wearing a black shirt and jeans, and then clip them out to use for his running animation.. That would look sleek. I mean, paste his head on top, of course.

Chundles
Sep 2, 2006, 01:42 AM
Gates is not the big bad boss, you should make the final boss Steve's real ultimate enemy
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1980's Steve Jobs from just before he got the arse.

Kingsly
Sep 2, 2006, 02:45 AM
Yes, I will post an updated video sometime in the next hour. Oh and cool graphic....BTW call me stupid, but what is RDF???:o
The Reality Distortion Field is could be like the magic star in super mario. Get it and Steve is temporarily invincible and anything the RDF bubble that he resides in touches instantly dies.

Can the 'bots explode? Or, better yet, can they poof like when you drag something from the dock?

EDIT: I dug around in my /system/library/coreservices/ folder and came up with a treasure trove of goodies for the game... e-mail me for them all. My website is below.

Here is a sampler:

Kingsly
Sep 2, 2006, 03:04 AM
I also have front row sounds... but their too big to attach!
More:

BornAgainMac
Sep 2, 2006, 09:13 AM
Change the gun to a white iPod. Or have him wearing the iPod plugs.

twistedlegato
Sep 2, 2006, 09:55 AM
The Reality Distortion Field is could be like the magic star in super mario. Get it and Steve is temporarily invincible and anything the RDF bubble that he resides in touches instantly dies.

Can the 'bots explode? Or, better yet, can they poof like when you drag something from the dock?

EDIT: I dug around in my /system/library/coreservices/ folder and came up with a treasure trove of goodies for the game... e-mail me for them all. My website is below.

Here is a sampler:


Dude yes
he needs to have the bots Poof like when you take things from the dock.And you could use Safari Bombs and stuff:D :D :D :D :D :D

actionjawa
Sep 2, 2006, 10:24 AM
When steve dies (hopefully not)

the death screen....could be a KP :p

P-S-3
Sep 2, 2006, 12:44 PM
The Reality Distortion Field is could be like the magic star in super mario. Get it and Steve is temporarily invincible and anything the RDF bubble that he resides in touches instantly dies.

Can the 'bots explode? Or, better yet, can they poof like when you drag something from the dock?

EDIT: I dug around in my /system/library/coreservices/ folder and came up with a treasure trove of goodies for the game... e-mail me for them all. My website is below.

Here is a sampler:

Yes...I was working on the exploding bots...but I just made them tip over for now. I will have the bots heads explode and then they "poof" away. Or should I just have them Poof away, with now head explosion? Also thanks for the OS X icons....they will help.

twistedlegato
Sep 2, 2006, 02:42 PM
When steve dies (hopefully not)

the death screen....could be a KP :p




The BLue screen of death for your correction:D

thegreatluke
Sep 2, 2006, 03:45 PM
When steve dies (hopefully not)

the death screen....could be a KP :p
Just make sure the user knows it's a fake kernel panic and not a real one. Like make it cartoony or something...

Imagine dying in fullscreen mode... :eek:

tominated
Sep 2, 2006, 08:03 PM
lose the explosions when the shuffles hit the ground/wall. it just doesn't seem right.

raggedjimmi
Sep 2, 2006, 08:08 PM
I'd still change that camera motion, if you read my first post ;) this is my field dammit! I am your neighbour!

Kingsly
Sep 2, 2006, 09:51 PM
Yes...I was working on the exploding bots...but I just made them tip over for now. I will have the bots heads explode and then they "poof" away. Or should I just have them Poof away, with now head explosion? Also thanks for the OS X icons....they will help.

P-S-3, may I suggest that the 'shells' ejected from the gun be iPod headphones? I agree that the shuffles shouldn't explode.
Also, I think the 'bots should just poof. No explosions.
duncob@gmail.com for the remaining OSX goodies... :D

Ringo
Sep 2, 2006, 09:53 PM
Would having Clarus as a support character is a good idea?. Or it could turn back on steve because it wasn't used in OS X :)


http://www.lazilong.com/clarus/DogCow.gif

P-S-3
Sep 2, 2006, 10:41 PM
lose the explosions when the shuffles hit the ground/wall. it just doesn't seem right.
Yes I know...those explosions were just a test. That has been changed today.
I'd still change that camera motion, if you read my first post this is my field dammit! I am your neighbour!
Yes, yes, yes....I know....I will do it when I get the full program.
P-S-3, may I suggest that the 'shells' ejected from the gun be iPod headphones? I agree that the shuffles shouldn't explode.
Also, I think the 'bots should just poof. No explosions.
duncob@gmail.com for the remaining OSX goodies...
I like your ideas man....Yea, I will change the shells. I will email you for the graphics :) . Also I just today made the poof graphics with the x-bots. It looks good. No explosions, they just poof away. I'll post up how it looks in a bit.

sjpetry
Sep 2, 2006, 10:59 PM
P-S-3, may I suggest that the 'shells' ejected from the gun be iPod headphones? I agree that the shuffles shouldn't explode.
Or maybe iBook Batteries.:p

P-S-3
Sep 2, 2006, 11:12 PM
UPDATE 5: Heres a small update. Today I was busy, but I made this poof for when the x-bot dies. The image quality is bad because it is a gif, but you get the idea. In-game it looks pretty cool. I also got rid of the overly excessive explosion from the Shuffle bullets. It is now a very very small explosion...tiny!

Poof:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5637/pooofhe7.gif

Shuffle Explosion:

From This: http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9533/explosion9ig0.gif To this: http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5860/005be9.gif

Kingsly
Sep 3, 2006, 12:54 AM
I like your ideas man....
Thanks... Here is my logo for the game credits. :eek: :D ;)
You even get to choose which one you want to use! :p

Gasu E.
Sep 5, 2006, 01:15 PM
Ballmer's level: You fight through Microsoft's offices, and finally reach a keynote stage where you fight Ballmer. Ballmer is small and quick.




Personally, I prefer Ballmer as a sweaty dancing Donkey Kong.

relimw
Sep 5, 2006, 01:45 PM
Looks fun, good work so far P-S-3! :)

sb58
Sep 5, 2006, 02:03 PM
that Video Beta 2 isn't working for me :(
it says its not located on that server yada yada

P-S-3
Sep 5, 2006, 02:27 PM
that Video Beta 2 isn't working for me :(
it says its not located on that server yada yada
It may be down for a while because I am in the process of making a site for the game and that was why the link got messed up. So yea, until I get PGF in the mail, I am working on the website. The site will be up shortly.:) Thanks again everyone.

Kingsly
Sep 6, 2006, 03:19 AM
Personally, I prefer Ballmer as a sweaty dancing Donkey Kong.
Ditto. That would be awesome.

Killyp
Jan 8, 2007, 08:13 AM
What's happened with this game now? It looks really promising!

Kingsly
Jan 9, 2007, 03:18 AM
I am wondering as well. I wanna play SJA!!!!!