OS X v10.1.3 Update Available

[blakespot]

Mac OS X v10.1.3 update is now available from Apple. (Standard System Preferences/Software Update drill.) Have at it!

[Hemingray]

Finalleeeeee!

[al256]

Yahoo!!!!!!! Finally I can play DVDs on my TV through Mac OS X with out using a keyboard and mouse.

[buffsldr]

Just authenticated install....
Not sure if I need it, but I want it!

[stoid]

Alright, it's about time!!! So when does 10.2 come out?? Just kinding :D :D :D. As Ankin said in Episode 1 "Yippeeee!!!!!"

[Biggles]

looks good so far

[G4scott]

I hate to spoil the party, but a couple of things aren't right with 10.1.3 on my 600mhz iBook.

First, the mail application appears as a folder in my "Applications" directory. I moved it to "Applications/Internet" for better organization. Well, the old one works, but i don't think it got upgraded.

Secondly, my visualizer in iTunes seems like it's drunk. It's slower. I used to get 30+fps with medium size and low quality, but now it tops out at 15. The windowed visualizer still sucks major @$$.

Other than that, the update seems to fine. Booted up in under 2 mins with logon. If anyone else sees a slow-down in the iTunes full screen visualizer, please say it! I can't stand it, because i know my hardware can handle the visualizer...

[blakespot]

Strange...

Well, aside from my machine freezing when I clicked 'reset' (I think BBEdit did something funky) all went fine. iTunes' visualisers seem no faster or slower for me. Windowed mode is super fast as always. (Of course I have a DP G4 800).


blakespot

[GPTurismo]

well, I haven't noticed any improvements on my DG4800 yet. On my old iMac DV SE i sold to my friend the only thing I noticed is that it now supports my old SPRESSA 100EX.

Thats the only differnces I have seen so far.

[Stike]

My CDRW is going to work, (but still does not appear in Finder and so on) AND try to right-click on a directory in the dock!
Even with many files, the speed of opening has been increased!
Now that rules :cool:

[Biggles]

Originally posted by Stike
My CDRW is going to work, (but still does not appear in Finder and so on) AND try to right-click on a directory in the dock!
Even with many files, the speed of opening has been increased!
Now that rules :cool:

I'm not sure I see what's different with the dock

[G4scott]

my dock still opens folders at the same speed. besides it's broken in mine. it keeps on resetting to it's default every time i logout.

[mgescuro]

I still don't notice any difference, for the most part.

It still doesn't recognize my Yamaha YST-MS35D USB speaker system. I still have to unplug and replug in the USB in order for OS X to detect it correctly.

Maybe 10.2 will finally correct the issue.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by al256
Yahoo!!!!!!! Finally I can play DVDs on my TV through Mac OS X with out using a keyboard and mouse.
How can you do that?

[Unregistered]

McAllen, TX

http://mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&address=&city=McAllen&state=TX

[whfsdude]

The mouse is slower in Return to Castle Wolfenstien

and my comp froze when instaling this blows more than my gf

[Taft]

iTunes visualizer got much worse after installing. Whatever "improvements" they did to iTunes are not universal. I hate when stuff like this happens.

Boo.

Matthew

[Unregistered]

I am pleased to report that my QuickSilver 867MHz Tower with nVidia MX2 card connected to a Sony G400 monitor now supplies 100 Hertz refresh rate at 1152 x 870 resolution running MacOS 10.1.3. I used to only get 75 Hertz at this resolution. When I reboot into MacOS 9, however, I still only get 640 x 480 resolution. Has anyone else noticed improvements in the display refresh rates?

Ed

[Beej]

My machine froze while it was installing. My first ever freeze of OS X. Not really a good sign :(

[Unregistered]

I used to get 1920 x 1440 ( Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2040u ) now I only get 1920x1200 what is that all about? Some how apple has screwed up my refresh rates and screen size. Now the only resolution that works well with my monitor is 1280x1024 and on a 22" monitor well that looks like 640x480 on a 15"... UGGGGGHHHHHHH...

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by G4scott
I hate to spoil the party, but a couple of things aren't right with 10.1.3 on my 600mhz iBook.

First, the mail application appears as a folder in my "Applications" directory. I moved it to "Applications/Internet" for better organization. Well, the old one works, but i don't think it got upgraded.

This happened to me as well - I had my Mail.app inside a subdirectory of Applications called Network for better organization. In addition, the same thing happened with Image Capture.

I managed to fix it, though. First, open up your existing Mail.app, and note the version number in the Mail / About Mail menu, just so you know it gets updated when it does.

Next, you should back up Mail.app in case you screw something up. I did this by opening Terminal and using cp -rp to copy it to a new filename (example: cp -rp Mail.app Mail2.app)

Then view Mail's package contents in the Finder. Drag all the files from the Applications/Mail folder that 10.1.3 just installed into the existing Mail.app package contents where the existing ones are, overwriting them. Et voila, you have an updated Mail.app. Mine went from 1.1 (v475/481) to 1.1 (v481). Whatever that means.

The same procedure should work for Image Capture too.

And the Unix people save the Mac people once again! :)

Alex

[buffsldr]

I have OS X Server. I upgraded (using the Software Update) and my build number is 5P68, and it still says 10.1.2. Last update the same type thing happened, and it was a few weeks later that I actually got the server update. Anyone else with server notice this?

[irmongoose]

hrm.. looks like i wont be updating my new iMac until they get those problems fixed...



irmongoose

[Quark]

I installed the update and it made a few, little things noticeably nicer.

Like the Applications folder I have in the Dock, if I hold down the mouse on it, it shows the contents much faster than before.

Also, in iTunes, the full screen visualization stuff is alot smoother and I got lost in it with the music for about ten minutes or so. I think they are playing mind games with people and that visualization thingy. I suddenly have the urge to buy something Apple... doesn't matter what, just anything... it's like our own, personalized SJ Reality Distortion Field Generator.

I am very happy!!:D

[trinitishwar]

The installation went quite well for me. Imac DV SE 400. Nice speed improvement for directories in the dock. Also seems to be faster accessing large submenus under favorites in IE. The finder might be a little faster in navigating through the file tree under iDisk , but that might be my imagination.

[Unregistered]

So far fine on my QS733, imac-dv 450 and ibook 600.

Seems snappier on all three machines. Finder hangs less when itools disk is connected. More resolutions for my 3rd party tft panel.

No complaints!

[Unregistered]

Some of you are incorrigible!

Haven't you learned ANYTHING from past updates?

Apple does thing Apple's way and you have to learn to live with it, or just do some quick fixes (and they ar quick I promise), every time you perform an official update.

Here's the quick and dirty version:
(refer to macosxhints or the like and search for more detailed anwers)

1. Don't move Apple applications from where they default, ie: Applications or Applications/Utilities (if you need better organization use a 3rd party utility like Dragthing or make aliases ala: create a directory in your user folder named Applications and put all your folder/organizers there w/ aliases of the apps inside)

2. restart again after the mandatory 'update restart'

3. Any custom compiled UNIX apps ie: Apache will be replaced or ignored during the update (if you installed them in /user/local/)

As far as driver support goes... well we've all seen what updates have done in the past, BACK UP your system.. especially if it's 'mission critical'.

To improve performance of apps run this as root:

[localhost:/Users/yourusernamehere] root# renice /


Finally, if you've changed any of your configurations by command line you should keep a manual log of your actions so you can go back and review whether they have changed after the update.

that's all. hope this helped w/o being too rude.

[chmorley]

Seems fine on my TiBook 667. iTunes visualizer even seems okay.

Chris

[j763]

D/Ling the update now -- hope everything will be okay... I had a $15 bet with my friend that OS X10.1.3 would be out today!!! :D :D

And one thing, my os 10.1.2 print center w/ an epson stylus c40ux always locks up. any suggestions???

[gandalf55]

i have a yosemite and things are fino here. they didn't add a ton in this update (spring loaded folders would be nice - maybe the next go round) - but folders in the dock puke there contents up much quicker now. - almost instantly!

iTunes - plays a lot faster visually - but it's very pixellated now. i understand the pixel inputs generate the opengl effects - but even the opengl effects are fairly pixellated now. what's up with that?

[sweetaction]

i noticed that the system prefs react better and are snappier on my powerbook 500

[Xapplimatic]

Have installed 10.1.3 on 3 Macs with no adversities. No lockups, no apps failing to open, no issues at all.. one iMac DV 400, one iMac DVSE 500, and one g3 iBook DVSE 466..

I noticed that visuals in iTunes are a LOT faster in the smaller and medium sized full screen only... on the iMac 500 I'm getting ~60 frames on small and 36 frames on medium sized full screen (lq) settings.. that's quite a bit faster.. no difference on large full screen.. it's still at ~24 fps.

REALLY BIG NOTICABLE CHANGE: Finder seems more optimized.. Large directories nolonger beach-ball.. I can scroll through my Applications drawers which have over 100 items in the show icons mode sort by name and not only does it come up initially faster, it scrolls more smoothly.. I thought this kind of optimization was only intended for 10.2.. it seems some of it found its way into 10.1.3 ... thanks Apple!

Dock: Show/hide still seems as unreliable but it seems more responsive for some reason.. when the mouse moves across the dock from icon to icon, the name change is instantaneous.. it seems to have lost all latency. As the other user said, ctrl+clicking up menus on the dock (right click) is instantaneous now too.. they have obviously been doing work under the hood. Genie effect seems much faster/smoother as well.

Mail.app.. fine.. and I see the encrypted SSL available under account edit options..

That's about all for now. The most important thing is that I'm not experiencing problems on any of the three systems I use (all gee-threes).. My experiences is that mostly only the people who have difficulties bother to post about the upgrade in these message bases, so the impression for some is that the upgrade is more harmful than good when in fact most people experienced more good than harm... truth be told only the unoiled wheel normally squeaks!

[Xapplimatic]

There have been improvements made to OpenGL I suspect across the board and not just "to iTunes"... some of the GL screen savers like More Gears and Sproingees seem to be running much faster..

And System Preferences is switching between panes faster too after the initial run (better buffering/caching?)

Still haven't found anything to gripe about... Perhaps I'll put my detailed 10.1 bug list against it later line by line to see what bugs still remain.

[Microsoft_Windows_Hater]

On my iBook, when plugged into an external display, I can now switch the iBook screen off using brightness controls. This saves my little iBook's screen! Yay! thanks apple for listening to me!

[abe]

Scrolling and resizing windows is still very very slow on my QS G4/800. I hope that this will be improved with 10.2. :(

[sparkleytone]

i have also noticed the bigtime speed increases in the finder and systemprefs. i was really really happy with this. another thing i have noticed, and maybe this has always been there, is the quicktime preview in the finder. i could have sworn this was a 10.2 "feature" the last go round of movies for jaguar, and i just don't remember if that feature was there before.

[IndyGopher]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
i have also noticed the bigtime speed increases in the finder and systemprefs. i was really really happy with this. another thing i have noticed, and maybe this has always been there, is the quicktime preview in the finder. i could have sworn this was a 10.2 "feature" the last go round of movies for jaguar, and i just don't remember if that feature was there before.
Nope, that's not new. Only there in column view.

[rustypixel]

... Is that windws seem to resize a bit faster and smoother. Still not perfect, though.

[eXistenZ_ng]

Damn, finder crashed under the install
hope it doesn't affect anything.

Soon finished optimizing...

[Falleron]

I have updated now. Everything is working as it should + I believe the window re-sizing is a little quicker.

[eXistenZ_ng]

i get 4-7 more fps now in the itunes visualizer. thats about 17-20 fps, full screen and high quality, its better than in os9 now!

[Taft]

If your iTunes is running really bad after an update, just restart again! After the install the Finder froze on my machine (before the auto restart after the install). After my system came back up, I tested some of the features of the update and found that iTunes was getting horrible performance. After another restart iTunes is running smoother than it has ever run.

Looks llike Apple got it right after all.

I wonder if this would fix the resolution problems. I know that Macs like to know what they are connected to on startup and that the resolutions can get a bit foobarred if nothing is connected. What if something wasn't quite right after the first restart. Try it again!!!

Matthew

[iH8Quark]

Finally the finder appears to remember the window view mode. That's a huge fix.

Thank you!

[evanmarx]

please help ... ahem ...

i've installed th 10.1.3 update for macosx server ... and i got stuck in the middle (maybe because i was fiddling with other SW ... well anyhow)

now.. my machine still booted up ... still saying it's 10.1.2 server ...ok ... now i want to redo the software update ... but I cannot anymore, because it doesn't offer me any updates anymore, because it thinks i did it already ... great ...

is there a way to reset or control the software update thingy

i just ask becuase there is NO standalone updater (yet) for macos x server ... i tried the normal macos standalone updater, but still says 10.1.2

anyone?

[ob]

Doesn't seem like the "fix" for the DVD player on the external monitor works. I can't get the window to move over to my external vga screen.

:(

[AlphaTech]

The only thing that I have found so far that doesn't really make any sense, is that my computer's serial number is no longer listed in the System Profiler. Has anyone else checked this since the update? Mine was listed until I installed 10.1.3 last night (no problems with the install either download or actual install).

Everything else just peachy... :D

[GPTurismo]

As for crashing...

It did for me three times. Why not the complaint? Well, it was because I had other apps running. The first two times include adium and IE and a few other apps, and the last time pthclock was running :\

so I went through and logged out, and logged back in and made sure nothing was running.

It probably overwrites files that are in use which causes the system to hault.

If you have to, go into terminal, do a top, then kill anything that is a small app running.

I had to do that with my old imac because the friend who has it now has tons of apps running.

[Bandit]

I have a QPS Que' Drive USB 4x2x8 that was not recognized in X. I downloaded the update thinking it would solve my problem but it still is not recognized and I can't start up classic with it plugged in and turned on.

[eyelikeart]

I'm gonna wait a few days to see how it goes for everyone after installation...

wouldn't want to be a part of the iTunes2 scare again....ha ha ha...

[sparkleytone]

It works fine, just remember to be nice to your Mac. When you are updating, update ONE at a time and ONLY be updating.

[cjlindstrom]

I am right now using 10.1.2, and lately its been going a little nuts on me
When I try to run software update or mail, they open part of the way and then quit "unexpectedly"
If anybody has a downloaded copy of the system update or if anybody could be of any help, that would be great
Thanx for any help

[Falleron]

My software update control panel in really unrealiable! Sometimes it downloads about 75% then it quits (this varies though). I gave up and downloaded the update from the apple web site in the end.

[Jays]

Since upgrading to 10.1.3 I can not use my PB, G4 550 MHz, with only the VGS (Apple multipleScan 20") monitor on. that is to say with my LCD from the PB shut, to get the full 16 VRAM.
It used to work fine under 10.1.2...
anyone else have this problem or knows a work around?

Besides that 10.1.3 seems to be moderately snappier.

[big]

<a href="http://downloAd.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/062-9450.20020218/MacOSXUpdate10.1.3.dmg.bin">if software update does not help.....use this link</a> & why is html not turned on?

about speed...I tried bundeling some system items (kind of like what the OptimizeX app does, and I would not suggest using it....It tends to REALLY slow down log-in and system prefs....

[DakotaGuy]

I updated my systems. Seems to work fine. The iTunes visuals are better, there is a slight speed increase with the finder. I especially can tell on my older iMac 400.

[oldMac]

And pretty good experience thus far.

I had one very scary moment. My machine froze completely (cursor freeze) while the installation was "optimizing". However, everything came up fine after reboot.

I seem to notice a slight speed improvement in the Finder with SMB networking. Could be the placebo effect.

iTunes visualizer is noticeably faster on my B&W G3 400.

[C4!™]

I have a B/W G3 400 and it also froze during the optimization but after a restart the system came up ok and I noticed that the finder was a lot snappier (as others have stated).

[AlphaTech]

For everyone having issues with the update to 10.1.3 I have a suggestion (take it as you want).

Zap your PRAM (apple+option+P+R if you didn't already know, at boot/restart, allow to chime for 3-6 times and then release).

Doing that fixed my minor issue with the computer's serial number no longer showing up under the Apple System Profiler. I don't know if it will fix all of your issues, but I figure it is worth a shot. It might even take care of that pesky military time of the clock for some people.

You will probably need to go into the System Preferences and reset your time (make sure to uncheck use network time server).

[buffsldr]

Originally posted by evanmarx
please help ... ahem ...

i've installed th 10.1.3 update for macosx server ... and i got stuck in the middle (maybe because i was fiddling with other SW ... well anyhow)

now.. my machine still booted up ... still saying it's 10.1.2 server ...ok ... now i want to redo the software update ... but I cannot anymore, because it doesn't offer me any updates anymore, because it thinks i did it already ... great ...

is there a way to reset or control the software update thingy

i just ask becuase there is NO standalone updater (yet) for macos x server ... i tried the normal macos standalone updater, but still says 10.1.2

anyone?

Check out my same previous post in this same thread. You did update successfully, and it may have changed the build number, but it still says 10.1.2, the same thing happened to me on a previous update. About 3 wks later, apple released an update for the server version. Don't sweat it, it worked the way apple wanted it to, I imagine.

[oddfuzz]

well i've heard a few other reports, but just thought i'd give mine as well. my QPS Que! 4x4x8x cdRW still doesn't seem to be supported. the system profiler shows it but i still can't even get the drive open. it is a shame.

also just woundering if the visualization upgrade is for the generic iTunes Visualizer, or if it was also for others such as the original: G-Force (http://www.55ware.com/gforce/index.html)

[tarimko]

I just installed 10.1.3 on 2 machines, a G4 Gigabit (400) and a B/W G3 (350). Installed without a hitch, I gained 4 fps in iTunes, and my LaCie U&I CDRW is now recoginzed. Kudos to Apple for a great upgrade.

[oldMac]

How did you see the FPS in iTunes?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by oldMac
How did you see the FPS in iTunes?

When you are running the visuals (except in full screen mode) there is a small item in the upper right hand corner labeled 'Options'. Click on this and you get a dialog that has check boxes. One of them is Display Frame Rate.

I did notice that when I was not in full screen mode, the frame rate was about 1/2 of what it was under full screen mode. Granted, this is on a rev a TiBook, I will be checking on my desktop at work sometime tomorrow (G4 733MHz pre-QuickSilver).

[mywar2000]

Does zapping the Pram erase all of your preferences?
My ibook 500 only displays military time?! Will zapping the pram really help?
thanks...

[AlphaTech]

It doesn't erase all of your preferences. You might need to adjust the brightness of your lcd screen (I did) and turn off the network sync for date and time, unless you want to use it. I had to turn it off when I did this at work since the firewall there blocks access to the Apple time servers (pain in the butt).

I gave it a go, and only had a couple of things that I needed to reset (date and time, and brightness) which were minor.

[macfreek57]

zapping pram doesn't kill your preferences. i forgot the specifics of it, but your pram is physical chip. it has something to do with hardware identification i believe (??). Preferences ? Preferences are stored on your hard drive in the system folder.

in any mode in itunes, press "h" or "?" (no shift for ?). "f" displays the frame rate. "q", "w", "a", "s", "z", and "x" change the appearance of the visuals. not sure what the slideshow is. has anyone had problems with that? namely that itunes says one visualizer shape is being used when it's actually the one next in line.

[DakotaGuy]

I finally sat down and really started working on my iBook tonight and this thing feels quite a bit snappier then before I had it updated to 10.1.3. Maybe it is just because I have had it stowed away for a couple of weeks and I was working on the old iMac DV? It just feels crisper in the Dock and pulling up Finder windows. I did not think that Apple did any finder improvement in 10.1.3 but it seems snappier. What do you guys see in your systems or think? Is it just me or is there a noticable improvement? Like I said I was on the iMac for a stint and maybe it is just the far superior speed of the iBook 600 over the old DV 400...

[Microsoft_Windows_Hater]

Remember that long wait that says 'system optimizing', well that would attribute to everything feeling snappier.

anyway, OpenGL games run like lightning now. It's fantastic.

[big]

I posted preiously that qps will have support, sorry, I meant for firewire. what better time to upgrade?:mad: I have a USB burner also and am looking for hot deals off EBAY, however it could be removing the drive and installing it in place of the normal CD reader will fix our problems.

something to do with ata 0 & ata 1 etc....I may give it a go this weekend on my B&W 350 mhz, there was a post about this on apple's dicussion boards under "Sony"....however, 10.1.3 was amazingly faster and now I want to use OS X prmarily!

[buffsldr]

This may have already been posted, but I noticed OS X Server Update was available yesterday. There have been a few posts on this thread regarding the Server update.

[Xapplimatic]

Originally posted by mywar2000
Does zapping the Pram erase all of your preferences?
My ibook 500 only displays military time?! Will zapping the pram really help?
thanks...

No, it doesn't.. Not all preferences are stored in PRAM. Things stored in PRAM are things which have to endure reboot and aren't OS specific like the volume level and the current system time (notice if you turn the volume down or hit mute before reboot, the reboot chim obeys the last setting for volume.. that's in PRAM)..

As for military time display, that is set in your System Preferences.. Zapping PRAM is not a solution for that. Simply open preferences, open the International pane, click the Time tab, and click the 12-hour setting instead of the 24-hour setting.. voila!

[Jookbox]

i'm assuming there's still no windowshading and spring-loaded folders.

[unclepain]

I hesitated putting this update on because of all the funkiness that others had experienced, but after making a disk image of my current system, I went ahead anyway. After months of unfullfilled promise, I am finally able to file share with my Win2K machine on our domain. I was able to connect to most of our WinNT4 servers on the domain fine by using smb://server/share, but I could not get to a shared folder on my Win2K Pro machine, or any other mahcine that was not a server until I put on this update. I kept getting the error of machine not found or not available- something like that. I had been using FTP to get stuff from my G4 to the PC, but now the connect To Server option works! Yeee Haaaaa! Now, if only they would add the ability to Browse the domain........

unclepain out.

[TechLarry]

It appears that the 10.1.3 updater expects the apps to be in their ORIGINAL locations, or they are not updated. Instead, the 10.1.3 updater dumps a folder with the contents of the update for that app in it's place.

Look at today's entries for MacOS X on www.macintouch.com and you will find a nice gents post about how to move these updated bits into the package of the old app to complete the update.

TL

Originally posted by alex_ant


This happened to me as well - I had my Mail.app inside a subdirectory of Applications called Network for better organization. In addition, the same thing happened with Image Capture.

I managed to fix it, though. First, open up your existing Mail.app, and note the version number in the Mail / About Mail menu, just so you know it gets updated when it does.

Next, you should back up Mail.app in case you screw something up. I did this by opening Terminal and using cp -rp to copy it to a new filename (example: cp -rp Mail.app Mail2.app)

Then view Mail's package contents in the Finder. Drag all the files from the Applications/Mail folder that 10.1.3 just installed into the existing Mail.app package contents where the existing ones are, overwriting them. Et voila, you have an updated Mail.app. Mine went from 1.1 (v475/481) to 1.1 (v481). Whatever that means.

The same procedure should work for Image Capture too.

And the Unix people save the Mac people once again! :)

Alex

[StealthRider]

Alright, i don't know why I asked this, don't flame me, but WHY DO YOU ALL CARE? It's a minor update. I'm just waiting for 10.2 on my new DG4800....

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by StealthRider
Alright, i don't know why I asked this, don't flame me, but WHY DO YOU ALL CARE? It's a minor update. I'm just waiting for 10.2 on my new DG4800....

If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer.

[loveshismac]

Alright i have problems
I installed the update at home first - G4 400 Mhz no problems any where so far, and experience the itunes improvements.

At work I installed - Duel 800 - and now Wolfienstein wont display right.
Works fine at home on the old ATI rage . Sucks on the better Nvidia card geforce 2

Also had a a huge problem where my finder crashed and would not relaunch.
Was about to scan in photoshop thru classi and BAM finder crashed, all classic apps crashed and would not allow me to access anything from OS X

Of course i hard restarted - and back to normal.

Also anybody able to see previews through Illustrator 10 on a shared drive?
I can thru classic but not in 10.
Dont know if thats adobe or apple.
Any suggestions would be nice

[macfreek57]

the non-full screen itunes visualization is a ton slower. no big deal as i don't often use it but it is nice to show off. i usually use the full screen anyway.

control-clicking in the dock is a bit faster but not enough that i would have noticed had i not been looking for it. not as fast, at least, as putting your hard drive in the apple menu in 9 as i always do.

a complaint about mail: they still don't have a toolbar button for simply creating a new message. i don't use mail anyway cause i just haven't taken the time to transfer to it. but anyway..

[Classic]

I've got a question for you guys...

I have two monitors and a DP800 with a Twinview card.

My 17" LCD is on the left as my primary monitor, and my 17" VGA is on the right as the secondary. I often have iTunes running on my right monitor and my work on the left.

Before 10.1.3, whenever I would do a full screen visualization, even though iTunes was running on the right monitor, it would do full screen on the left monitor. Now, with 10.1.3 installed, it will do full screen on the right monitor.

My question is, can I set iTunes to run full screen on the right monitor and continue working on the left? Currently when the visualizations are full screen, the other monitor goes black. I haven't seen any settings for this. Also, is it possible to span both monitors (not mirror) with the full screen visualization?

Thanks.

[Rower_CPU]

a complaint about mail: they still don't have a toolbar button for simply creating a new message. i don't use mail anyway cause i just haven't taken the time to transfer to it. but anyway..

How does Mail not have the option to create a new messge???

You click on "Compose" or press Command + N

[Rower_CPU]

pretty quiet here...

haven't seen much difference positive or negative on a G3 450 or G4 400

[eyelikeart]

I just installed it.....I couldn't wait.....

anyway....everything runs fine....iTunes a bit quicker....but has anyone else noticed their display is a bit washed out looking after the update? My calibrated profile is still currently active....maybe it's just my eyes not adjusted from my work display? :confused:

[Screamingbeaver]

I've installed the update on a G4/400, Pismo Powerbook, and an iMacDV and everything works great, except for the fact when I want to change an icon. I show info and copy the icon I want then select a folder or volume and show info and paste the new icon, it disappears. Nothin' shows up 'till you restart or use the force quit and relaunch the finder.

Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks guys...

'Beaver

[mywar2000]

Thanks for the Pram answers! Much appreciated... OSx doesn't seem to have the "military time" option as OS9 did... Hence my problem. The clock is in Military time when set to the network server AND normal Pacific north American time... or whatever it's called. So anyway. It must be something super dumb on my part...

[Screamingbeaver]

I had the same problem on mine. Someone in this forum suggested going to the System Prefs/International and change from 12hour to 24hour.

[Screamingbeaver]

I had the same problem on mine. Some in this forum suggested going to the System Prefs/International and change from 12hour to 24hour.

[AlphaTech]

As mentioned above, check in the International item in the System Preferences... The 12/24 hour clock settings are there.

[macfreek57]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


How does Mail not have the option to create a new messge???

You click on "Compose" or press Command + N

as i said, they don't have a TOOLBAR button to create a new message

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by macfreek57


as i said, they don't have a TOOLBAR button to create a new message

The Mail toolbar has the 'Compose' item in it. If your's doesn't, then all you need to do is go to the View then Customize Toolbar menu items. It will then open up a window where you can add and remove items from the toolbar. There are many items there that are not part of the normal set. If your's still doesn't show, then consider opening up the Mail window a bit.

[crush7]

After updating to 10.1.3 I connected my PB G4 to a TV and put in a DVD. I seem to be able to watch the DVD on the PB'S screen only, but not on TV. Every time I tried to synchronize the displays the DVD Player shuts down. Remarkably, I tried the same thing under OS 9 , and IT WORKED! Can anyone help me out with this? I don't want to switch to 9, now!

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by crush7
After updating to 10.1.3 I connected my PB G4 to a TV and put in a DVD. I seem to be able to watch the DVD on the PB'S screen only, but not on TV. Every time I tried to synchronize the displays the DVD Player shuts down. Remarkably, I tried the same thing under OS 9 , and IT WORKED! Can anyone help me out with this? I don't want to switch to 9, now!

I've done a little experimentation, and it's not easy, but it is possible to run the DVD player on a TV. I'm watching something right now. Here's what you're dealing with:

1. The DVD Player will not run on a TV in a mirrored configuration. If you turn on mirroring while the DVD Player is running, it shuts down. If you try to start DVD Player with mirroring on, it tells you the configuration is not supported and quits.

2. If you don't have mirroring on, the Viewer window cannot be dragged onto another screen. It bumps into the edge of the screen it launches on and stops.

So it seems like you're stuck. But there's one more hoop to jump through. Quit the DVD player if necessary. Make sure you are NOT mirroring the primary display on the TV. The monitors have to be separate. Open System Preferences, Display pane, Arrange tab. Drag the menu bar from the representation of the LCD screen to the representation of the TV screen. Your TV is now your primary display. If you start the DVD Player now, it will launch on the TV screen, since that's the primary. You can drag the controller window back to the LCD if you like, but the viewer is stuck like before, only now it's on the TV. If you switch the DVD player to fullscreen, it will be fullscreen on the TV.

So. A pretty frustrating process to make this work, but it does (barely). I certainly hope later updates will include further improvements to make this feature suck a little less.

[Bifrost]

I just installed the 0S 10.1.3 update. No problems at all with the install, everything works fine. No real noticeable improvements yet except one (and it is a big one for me). I can now print to my Lexmark inkjet printer (piece of junk, but that's what they gave me) from an OS X application while Classic is running. Formerly I had to quit classic in order to print from Mail or Explorer or any other OS X application. As I am still forced to run many apps in Classic (my school won't update Microsoft Office to v.X until this summer), this was really annoying. Thanks to Apple for fixing that bug (and I didn't even have to update the driver software for the printer).

[Falleron]

I have a problem with dial up connections! About once in every 10 times I connect to the internet my whole computer gets frozen!!! This is the only time where OSX has ever crashed on my! However, this problem is really annoying me because I have to restart my machine a couple of times each day now.

Also, when coming out of sleep my sound is muted somehow + there is no way to get it back without a restart.

These problems existed in OSX.1.2 as well as OSX.1.3