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EHUnlucky7x9@ao
Sep 8, 2006, 09:18 AM
I'm looking to add another gig of ram into my Mac Pro. I've seen companies sell single sticks of DDR667 FB-DIMM RAM.

I've read that its good for performance to have it in pairs, but no one specifically says you can't install just one RAM module. Is it possible? 3 sticks on a riser? or 2 + 1?



Chundles
Sep 8, 2006, 09:23 AM
Pair it up sunshine.

jer2eydevil88
Sep 8, 2006, 11:54 AM
I am not 100% sure because these new Macs use EFI instead of a traditional bios, EFI can be configured by Apple to lock out certain configurations.

If this was a traditional setup, or Apple was kind enough to setup EFI to take single stick and convert down to single channel, then you could purchase single dimms not in pairs for your machine.

I will be purchasing a Mac Pro for a small company next week and I also have found little to no documentation about its support for single DIMMS that are added without being in pairs.

pianoman
Sep 8, 2006, 12:01 PM
Pair it up sunshine.

i agree. and i especially like the "sunshine" comment.

apfhex
Sep 8, 2006, 05:58 PM
"Does the Mac Pro have to be in pairs?"

No, but you sure would have a fast setup with two Mac Pros operating together. ;)

Sun Baked
Sep 8, 2006, 06:12 PM
Yes ... installation instructions here

Mac Pro Memory (FB-DIMM) DIY Replacement Instructions (pdf) (http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/MacPro_MemoryDIMM_DIY.pdf)

The machine is capable of Quad channel memory utilizing 2 pairs of matched memory (aka, 4 matched DIMMs) ... but 4 matched DIMMs aren't needed, just 1 pair at a time.

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/HardwareDrivers/Conceptual/Mac_Pro_0608/Art/060634001312_01.jpg

If you can understand the picture, there are two dual channel memory controllers on the machine. You should also see the need to alternate pair installations from Riser A to B, to make best use of the bandwidth -- because only two DIMMS can be accessed on the riser at a time.

Edit: That should confuse somebody. :D

phantasm10
Sep 8, 2006, 08:32 PM
Even if it did work, it would probably be like having 3 tires on a 4 wheel drive vehicle.

eodp3
Sep 9, 2006, 02:52 AM
the diagram on the inside of the side panel of the MP's case shows to install 2 at a time.

Spaceman Spiff
Sep 9, 2006, 03:05 AM
"Does the Mac Pro have to be in pairs?"

No, but you sure would have a fast setup with two Mac Pros operating together. ;)

Ah, you beat me to it.

I think a nice 2 for 1 deal from Apple would be lovely, actually.

I'm still curious whether match pairs of pairs on the same riser make any difference.

richpjr
Sep 9, 2006, 10:16 AM
I have a spinoff question on this - if I get a Mac Pro with the standard 1 meg of ram and want to add another more memory, does the next set of RAM modules need to be the same size to take advantage of the dual memory increase? Or could I add 2 1-meg modules to it (total of 3 meg) and still get the performance increase?