55% americans support harsh interrogate tactics,

[clevin]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14753833/page/2/
and 15% support torture

[FFTT]

Wow man, that's gotta be really tough using hash to interrogate
those dudes. :cool:

[skunk]

How do you get to be a suspect?

[FFTT]

Sfffft eere! Cough Cough ;)

Stop it some more

[Thomas Veil]

Duuuuuuuuuuude! Interrogate me!

[clevin]

just a typo, u got the idea, lol

[skunk]

Is this the same 55% who don't believe in evolution theory? :confused:

[Dont Hurt Me]

Is this the same 55% who don't believe in evolution theory? :confused:and voted for Bush you left that out. Whats the point of catching bad guys if you are now a bad guy? Just more brain dead stuff from the administration and party of spin. I thought we were suppose to be better then this.

[zap2]

and 15% support torture


Lets test out torturing out on those 15% and see if they still favor it when we are done!:rolleyes:

[Desertrat]

I wish somebody would put "harsh tactics" into specific words. Flogging? Hooking the guy up to a transformer? Beatings? Starving? I'm totally against that sort of thing. Physical abuse is generally foolish and commonly non-productive of any useful information.

So far, what I've read in the media about "harsh" generally doesn't seem to fit the dictionary definition of torture.

'Rat

[mkrishnan]

I wish somebody would put "harsh tactics" into specific words.

Three words. Paris Hilton. Singing. :eek: :o

[AP_piano295]

Three words. Paris Hilton. Singing. :eek: :o

OK OK I KILLED HIM I'M SORRY TURN THE MUSIC OFF

[zap2]

I wish somebody would put "harsh tactics" into specific words. Flogging? Hooking the guy up to a transformer? Beatings? Starving? I'm totally against that sort of thing. Physical abuse is generally foolish and commonly non-productive of any useful information.

So far, what I've read in the media about "harsh" generally doesn't seem to fit the dictionary definition of torture.

'Rat


Ya, if it means allowing them to be yelled, I think i'm ok with that, because it seems like a good trade, possible upsetting someone for save a few lives..of course it might not be very good way to get GOOD info

[pseudobrit]

Is this the same 55% who don't believe in evolution theory? :confused:

It'd make an interesting Venn diagram.

[.Andy]

I wish somebody would put "harsh tactics" into specific words. Flogging? Hooking the guy up to a transformer? Beatings? Starving? I'm totally against that sort of thing. Physical abuse is generally foolish and commonly non-productive of any useful information.

So far, what I've read in the media about "harsh" generally doesn't seem to fit the dictionary definition of torture.

'Rat

from here (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/09/america/NA_GEN_US_Detainee_Interrogations.php)

Through omissions and legal definitions, the proposal could authorize harsh techniques that critics contend potentially violate the Geneva Conventions, which govern the treatment of war prisoners. These methods include hypothermia, stress positions and "waterboarding," a practice of simulated drowning.

The bill would keep in law prohibitions on war crimes such as rape and torture that are widely accepted as illegal.

The proposal would apply back to 2001 the Bush administration's standards for treatment of detainees. That would shield CIA personnel from liability under a 1996 law intended to uphold the Geneva Conventions, since the fight against terrorism began and harsher interrogation methods were approved.

This isn't designed to keep you American's safe at all. It's designed to save Bush and co's asses for War Crimes dating back to 2001.

[ZoomZoomZoom]

It'd make an interesting Venn diagram.

Is it still a Venn diagram if there's only one circle?

[Desertrat]

.Andy, I don't see hypothermia and waterboarding as "merely" harsh; it's torture...

The waterboarding is merely a variant on what people I knew endured during Kempetai interrogation in the Philippines in WW II. Another little pleasure was to fill your stomach with water via a garden hose, and then do a knee drop on the bulge.

The hypothermia thing is quite reminiscent of some of the Nazi's "medical" experiments...

'Rat

[zap2]

from here (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/09/america/NA_GEN_US_Detainee_Interrogations.php)



This isn't designed to keep you American's safe at all. It's designed to save Bush and co's asses for War Crimes dating back to 2001.


In that case, I don't support it...people will say anything when you do that to them. If your saying..Did you eat my kast piece of cake? No..then you make them think they are drowning..Yes Yes, just make it stop

[FFTT]

The Bush administration is doing all they can to cover their tracks because they
know if the wrong people have their way in the upcoming Congress, they are in trouble legally.

[Desertrat]

Nobody's happy:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/10/wirq10.xml

"...Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

And

"Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport."

'Rat

[Dont Hurt Me]

The Bush administration is doing all they can to cover their tracks because they
know if the wrong people have their way in the upcoming Congress, they are in trouble legally.
And to think we are suppose to be a nation of laws. What a fine example our president has set, lets see... lie about WMDs, Torture,Secret CIA prisons,ignore the Geneva convention,spy on every American, Then make it up as you go with signing statements. Yeah im real proud to be an American these days. Then Cheney gets on TV and has the nerve to say that the republican congress has shown strong oversight. LOL.:D

[YS2003]

How do you get to be a suspect?
I guess when CIA or DHS thinks you are a suspect. No reason is needed under the current protocol. They will ship you out to some place where the current USA prizon rules cannot cover.

[mactastic]

I dunno... what do you call it when you're stuffed into a sleeping bag and beaten until you are dead?

[solvs]

Wonder how many of those people claim to be Christians. WWJT (who would Jesus torture). This is deplorable, against everything this country stands for. Supposed to stand for. We have due process to protect the falsely accused, to protect against abuse by those in charge, and to keep ourselves from becoming what we are supposed to be fighting against. But 9/11 scared the heck out of us, so we have no problem throwing the rights of others right out the window because we want the perception of safety.

Of course, even if we toss out all of that human rights stuff torture doesn't actually work as a viable tactic for numerous reasons. Any one who knows anything about it will tell you that. At this point I'm more afraid of my government and my fellow citizens than the terrorists. This is exactly what the terrorists wanted to happen, and it worked. Thanks GW and the MSM for playing right into it.

[FFTT]

I wonder what kind of national and international poll results we would get
of how many people believe in harsh prosecution of corrupt politicians?

How many people believe that this administration should collectively face
an in depth open criminal investigation in the process of their removal from office?