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jive
Sep 11, 2006, 07:18 PM
http://www.woostercollective.com/wtcoutline.jpg



pknz
Sep 11, 2006, 07:40 PM
That is nice. And sad.

minimalistic
Sep 11, 2006, 07:49 PM
Really nice. God bless y'all.

nitynate
Sep 15, 2006, 09:28 PM
here is mine.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7871/photo91cd1.jpg



:(

thedude110
Sep 15, 2006, 10:32 PM
Michael Brodeur. (http://www.artmurmur.com/artists/artist_brodeur.htm)

http://www.artmurmur.com/artists/brodeur/brodeur_tower.jpg

xsedrinam
Sep 16, 2006, 01:07 AM
landsat2, though not a "representation" per se, did leave a vivid picture of what the event did represent.

iVersa
Sep 16, 2006, 04:00 AM
http://www.woostercollective.com/wtcoutline.jpg

While of course a very sad tragedy, that image is a very aesthetically nice piece of work

SolidSnake
Sep 16, 2006, 01:40 PM
I agree that it is very nice. But it is a bit off.

xsedrinam
Sep 16, 2006, 02:05 PM
I agree that it is very nice. But it is a bit off.
meh, I see it as adding to the overall, abstract effect.

obeygiant
Sep 16, 2006, 02:23 PM
I agree that it is very nice. But it is a bit off.
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2897/1158360457414ia5.jpg

MacFan782040
Sep 16, 2006, 02:37 PM
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2897/1158360457414ia5.jpg

Personally, I think that is sick. What kind of thread is this anyway? Who makes a cake to celebrate a disaster? "Happy 9-11" with a burning building cake...that's rediculous.

obeygiant
Sep 16, 2006, 07:04 PM
Personally, I think that is sick. What kind of thread is this anyway? Who makes a cake to celebrate a disaster? "Happy 9-11" with a burning building cake...that's rediculous.

calm down. its not my cake.

rtharper
Sep 16, 2006, 07:07 PM
Personally, I think that is sick. What kind of thread is this anyway? Who makes a cake to celebrate a disaster? "Happy 9-11" with a burning building cake...that's rediculous.

Or maybe it's meant to be poignant? Or a way of coping with something that affected everyone very deeply? Everyone expresses their emotions differently, and 9/11 probably evoked different emotions in different people. Get off your high horse, your moral authority isn't any more credible than anyone else's, neither is your artistic.

You should hope eventually people do view it somewhat satirically, because as long as people hold onto with too much emotion it keeps people from rationally dealing with the backlash; or are you a right-wing neo-con that thinks what we've been doing to the rest of the world is justifiable because of 9/11?

LethalWolfe
Sep 16, 2006, 07:19 PM
calm down. its not my cake.

I don't know why but that's the funniest thing I've read all day.


Lethal

MacFan782040
Sep 16, 2006, 07:21 PM
calm down. its not my cake.

I didn't mean it was yours and I'm sorry for the way I reacted but to me, that isn't even something to be "happy" about.

That's like saying, Let's draw an icing picture on a cake of a car crash that killed your best friend, and put "happy 6/3", and eat it on the anniversary of his death. Cause basically that's what that cake is saying.

pknz
Sep 16, 2006, 07:22 PM
I find the cake a bit on the distasteful side.

LethalWolfe
Sep 16, 2006, 07:37 PM
I didn't mean it was yours and I'm sorry for the way I reacted but to me, that isn't even something to be "happy" about.

That's like saying, Let's draw an icing picture on a cake of a car crash that killed your best friend, and put "happy 6/3", and eat it on the anniversary of his death. Cause basically that's what that cake is saying.

It's all a matter of perspective. Maybe that's Osama's cakes?


Lethal

Mechcozmo
Sep 16, 2006, 08:42 PM
Personally, I think that is sick. What kind of thread is this anyway? Who makes a cake to celebrate a disaster? "Happy 9-11" with a burning building cake...that's rediculous.

The cake reminded me of "Little Miss Sunshine"...:rolleyes:

xfiftyfour
Sep 16, 2006, 10:13 PM
calm down. its not my cake.
uhm. cause that makes it better? you posted it.. and without any sort of subtitle. naturally we're going to assume you posted it to be "funny" - which it isn't.

swingerofbirch
Sep 16, 2006, 10:36 PM
Well the way the media acts on 9-11 anniversaries they pretty much are turning it into a holiday. I mean obviously they make a lot of money off 9-11. Bush uses it after every other word in his speeches, to him it's the basis for his entire foreign policy. There are a lot of opportunists who use 9-11, which is in essence celebrating it. So to me that cake just reminded me of that opportunism: to the media, to the politicians. As a piece of art (if it is?), I don't find it offensive. I find Bush and most media outlets offensive, however.

anim8or
Sep 16, 2006, 10:44 PM
is anyone else born on 9/11?

Do people treat you differently 'cos of it?

Alot of people apologise to me for it and iam like its not me that it affects. Its strange these people dont go apologising to Americans for it but as i am born on the same date i get treated strangely?

I have even met a few americans who have had bad reactions thinking i was messing with them!

It just so happens that my fiance's father died on 9/11 about 10 or so years ago... and my cat i had for 14 years died on my 18th birthday.

Strange coincidences.

Anyway jst thot i would ask?

BBGun
Sep 16, 2006, 11:58 PM
That outline image is intriguing; thanks for sharing it. (I noticed the URL on the transparency: wtcoutline.com (http://www.wtcoutline.com/))


rtharper, since you've set the precedent and pulled someone off their high horse, only to climb on it yourself, I'll give you a tug...

My first thought was that this cake photo was from some British-Muslim extremist celebration of the anniversary. Didn't you feel an initial jab in the gut when you saw this photo?
Everyone expresses their emotions differently, and 9/11 probably evoked different emotions in different people.
Yeah, check the news clips from that day. There were plenty of very emotional Muslims... cheering, laughing, and dancing in the streets.
Get off your high horse, your moral authority isn't any more credible than anyone else's, neither is your artistic.
I suspect that posing up there on your high horse may have distorted your perspective. I understand your desire to defend something that may have been taken completely out of context, but this cake, viewed only in the context of the horror of 9/11 and common moral standards, is sick and in poor taste (no pun intended). If there was some additional context that made it more acceptable, it wasn't posted, so we aren't privy to it. Thus I would contend that anyone here (in a Mac forum!) who finds this cake photo offensive is justified.
You should hope eventually people do view it somewhat satirically, because as long as people hold onto with too much emotion it keeps people from rationally dealing with the backlash; or are you a right-wing neo-con that thinks what we've been doing to the rest of the world is justifiable because of 9/11?
What "we're doing to the rest of the world" now may have been poorly managed at some points along the way, but the "backlash" is long overdue. In case you didn't realize it, we've been involved in this "war" since the 70's and we've only recently begun to "backlash" in earnest. Seems like we've been rather patient up until 9/11. Of course, the aimless inaction of gonad-less liberals may have passed for patience, but it only helped wedge us into our current situation and delay the inevitable.

Giddy-up horsey!
:p

it5five
Sep 17, 2006, 01:21 AM
My first thought was that this cake photo was from some British-Muslim extremist celebration of the anniversary. Didn't you feel an initial jab in the gut when you saw this photo?


Maybe you should look closer in the photo. There is a mini american flag right above the cake.

Yeah, check the news clips from that day. There were plenty of very emotional Muslims... cheering, laughing, and dancing in the streets.


Go ahead and play the neo-con bigot card though; judging an entire religion based upon the actions of a few.

macenforcer
Sep 17, 2006, 01:46 AM
I hope we stay in iraq and make it the 51st state. And yeah, I was in iraq in 90 for the first war. They hate us, I hate them right back.

joepunk
Sep 17, 2006, 02:15 AM
..ll..

it5five
Sep 17, 2006, 02:24 AM
I hope we stay in iraq and make it the 51st state. And yeah, I was in iraq in 90 for the first war. They hate us, I hate them right back.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so I see no reason for you to bring it up in this thread.

GFLPraxis
Sep 17, 2006, 02:26 AM
Didn't you feel an initial jab in the gut when you saw this photo?

I almost grinned- not because I thought it was funny, but because I imagined the reaction that everyone else would have.

I wasn't disappointed...

jwp1964
Sep 17, 2006, 04:22 AM
in 7, 6, 5, 4, 3,...;)

Lau
Sep 17, 2006, 08:16 AM
is anyone else born on 9/11?

Do people treat you differently 'cos of it?

One of my best friends was born on September 11th 1980, so his 21st birthday was on 9/11. It was a hell of a weird 21st for him. I don't know if he's had people apologising though, I'll ask him when I see him. Embarrassingly, I could never remember which day in September his birthday was before, but now I do remember.

srf4real
Sep 17, 2006, 08:47 AM
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2897/1158360457414ia5.jpgThanks for making me laugh. and cry. We're making them pay for that attack. All the followers of Osama are like, "oops, we better not f$%# with American soil again or they'll wipe us off the map.!":mad:

srf4real
Sep 17, 2006, 08:52 AM
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so I see no reason for you to bring it up in this thread.
Iraq is a bout Israel; $25K for every suicide bomber's family from Saddam... supporting terrorism... 9/ 11... see the connection?

iSaint
Sep 17, 2006, 08:56 AM
Speaking of tacky, has anyone seen this one?

It's not mine, it came from a blog somewhere in c-space.

xsedrinam
Sep 17, 2006, 04:51 PM
Glad this finally made it in the PRS forum. Now we can talk about some of the illusions attached to and associated with the event, without the gloves.

zap2
Sep 17, 2006, 05:03 PM
The cake was not that terrible...some people cope with grief with laughter, why knock them for trying to make them selves feel better?


I like to think about how we should move ahead.

yg17
Sep 17, 2006, 05:09 PM
I used to think that any event which resulted in cake was a good event. Guess not. Although I still do loves me some cake :D

Ugg
Sep 17, 2006, 05:14 PM
I suspect that posing up there on your high horse may have distorted your perspective. I understand your desire to defend something that may have been taken completely out of context, but this cake, viewed only in the context of the horror of 9/11 and common moral standards, is sick and in poor taste (no pun intended). If there was some additional context that made it more acceptable, it wasn't posted, so we aren't privy to it. Thus I would contend that anyone here (in a Mac forum!) who finds this cake photo offensive is justified.

What "we're doing to the rest of the world" now may have been poorly managed at some points along the way, but the "backlash" is long overdue. In case you didn't realize it, we've been involved in this "war" since the 70's and we've only recently begun to "backlash" in earnest. Seems like we've been rather patient up until 9/11. Of course, the aimless inaction of gonad-less liberals may have passed for patience, but it only helped wedge us into our current situation and delay the inevitable.

Giddy-up horsey!
:p

Reacting before we know the story behind the cake is sort of silly, don't you think.

Since the US has done its best to create the situation in the ME; unconditional support to Israel, supporting the Shah of Iran, supporting Osama, supporting the Sauds, etc, etc, it's really difficult to see why you think a backlash is not only inevitable but long overdue.

We could have done something after the OPEC embargo, but we didn't. Had we followed through on lessening our dependence on OPEC oil, the OPEC countries wouldn't have the power and the money they do today. Unfortunately, the money hungry multinationals in this country and the short-sighted, greedy republicans that support them, chose the path most likely to lead to the conflict we're in today.

Yeah, horses might be what we need after the US is bankrupted by its idiotic forays into the ME.

yg17
Sep 17, 2006, 05:17 PM
Speaking of tacky, has anyone seen this one?

It's not mine, it came from a blog somewhere in c-space.


oh....my...god :D

aquajet
Sep 17, 2006, 06:20 PM
I must say...the cake made me laugh out loud. :eek:

zap2
Sep 17, 2006, 06:40 PM
Iraq is a bout Israel; $25K for every suicide bomber's family from Saddam... supporting terrorism... 9/ 11... see the connection?


No...Isreal didn't attack us..neither did Saddam's bomber...A terrorist group attacked us(That had no relation to Iraq or its government), thats like saying "In War World II American was attacked by Japan(which is a Country)...I sure do hate people from Brazil" There both countries get the connection?

Also we did fight Iraq so I'm not really expecting all of them to give us hugs and kisses for ripping apart their country.

Also macenforcer if you fought them, your likely only met people who clearly supported Iraq's old government, not the people do hated it, but stayed away from a big battle because it was safer. You don't know how all Iraqis feel about us, so its stupid to hate all of them.

.Andy
Sep 17, 2006, 08:00 PM
I hope we stay in iraq and make it the 51st state. And yeah, I was in iraq in 90 for the first war. They hate us, I hate them right back.

This kind of attitude is the saddest thing to come out of 911.

thedude110
Sep 17, 2006, 08:34 PM
Glad this finally made it in the PRS forum. Now we can talk about some of the illusions attached to and associated with the event, without the gloves.

I'm quasi-heartbroken.

What could have been a nice conversation about aesthetics is going to be reduced to the same old same old, this time refracted through cake ...

srf4real
Sep 17, 2006, 08:37 PM
why can't we all just get along:confused:

aquajet
Sep 17, 2006, 08:48 PM
I wonder what kind of cake it was. I'm really feeling like cake tonight.

EricNau
Sep 17, 2006, 08:55 PM
I wonder what kind of cake it was. I'm really feeling like cake tonight.
Funniest post all day. :D

iSaint
Sep 17, 2006, 09:18 PM
why can't we all just get along:confused:

I have twenty kids per class period, and they're at each others' throats the entire period. I tried to talk to them to no avail. Just need to stick to the subject matter...

I'm not sure where our world's headed.

xsedrinam
Sep 17, 2006, 09:37 PM
I'm quasi-heartbroken.

What could have been a nice conversation about aesthetics is going to be reduced to the same old same old, this time refracted through cake ...
It easily could have, imo. If some would have just let the cake thing go and not projected their political agenda. Adding ingredients like I hope we stay in iraq and make it the 51st state. And yeah, I was in iraq in 90 for the first war. They hate us, I hate them right back. was the icing on it which doomed it to politicatory.

zap2
Sep 17, 2006, 09:42 PM
Adding ingredients like...was the icing on it


Does this mean a double layer of icing on that cake:)

it5five
Sep 18, 2006, 03:17 AM
Speaking of tacky, has anyone seen this one?

It's not mine, it came from a blog somewhere in c-space.

That's Natalie Dee.

takao
Sep 18, 2006, 10:05 AM
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/images/porsche-911-gt3-big-1.jpg

GT3 FTW !!!

seriously it always ticks me off when i hear people saying nine-eleven.. i connect something different with that .. why not call it "11th september" .. is it to damn hard to say something _that_ long ?


that aside the cake is funny ... after all aids is finally funny (;))

Thanatoast
Sep 18, 2006, 02:07 PM
Sadly, the creator of the 9-11 cake may not have meant it to be satirical. :(

As in, they've so totally bought in to the Bushco FUD and rampant media whoring they really do think that 9-11 is some kind of national holiday - one where everyone is supposed to remember how gosh-darn tough it is to be an American, how we should be afraid of everyone because they don't like us, and how we need Bush to protect us.

Sdashiki
Sep 18, 2006, 04:14 PM
i take is there was a photo of this cake in the thread, and its now deleted?

aquajet
Sep 18, 2006, 04:20 PM
i take is there was a photo of this cake in the thread, and its now deleted?

It's still available on the first page. Looks like a mod may have deleted the unneeded re-posts.

Sdashiki
Sep 18, 2006, 04:22 PM
was this cake a metaphor? i still dont see anything but a skyline with hand of NY, a scribbled piece of paper, styrofoam, a doodle from myspace...

no cake.

vniow
Sep 18, 2006, 04:24 PM
was this cake a metaphor? i still dont see anything but a skyline with hand of NY, a scribbled piece of paper, styrofoam, a doodle from myspace...

no cake.


http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2897/1158360457414ia5.jpg