Apples Agenda for the media event?

[btgordon]

Reposting from TUAW. Sorry if someone got it first
http://www.tuaw.com/2006/09/11/apples-agenda-for-the-media-event/

Looks like what we though: streaming playback to TV and new nano. No new "video" iPod. Sorry if this has been posted already.

No mention of MBP merom. I personally dont think it is coming out untill late september.

QUOTE:
"...Let's just say I have been informed by a little reliable birdy about Tomorrow's event. The line-up will follow this similar structure:

* Welcoming of Media Members
* Discussion on iTunes software, iTMS integration into iTunes, and iTMS sales and facts.
* Announcement of iTunes version 7.0
* Announces better search feature for Music Store
* Announces Movie Store. Available Immediately will be movies from Disney and Pixar, among other studios.
* New iPod Nano Announcement (nice brushed casing, while it will have same features as first gen, only a longer battery life)
* New iPod Announcement (Widescreen, Bluetooth, and featuring virtual touchweel. Does not include Wi-Fi, or any other protocols)
* One More Thing....TubePort. A $99 2-piece set that includes a dongle that connects via USB to your mac, and another dongle that connects via included HD cables or regular Component cables to your TV. The movie is accessed on your Mac via an iDisk-like storage component hosted by Apple.


Jobs will then explain the pricing structure of the Movie Store. Movies will be available as either a smaller iPod-format (which will cost $9.99 per movie), or as a larger, streamed movie to be streamed to your TV via TubePort. This cost $14.99 per movie. To purchase an iPod-formatted movie and a streamed version of the same movie, it will cost you $19.99."

[SpankyPenzaanz]

Interesting I'm going to watch quicktime address soon as its posted anyway

[MattDell]

No mention of MBP merom. I personally dont think it is coming out untill late september.
What about a G5 Powerbook?

[btgordon]

I personally would rather see a kentsfield MBP. :P

[Coolerking]

If that is the actual schedule of events I think it would be a 2 out of 5. But I really hope the fruit company from Cali has the proverbial Ace up the sleeve. Given this is their last chance to make an impression for x-mas I see them ramping it up a bit after the lackluster WWDC.

[coal]

Tubeport?! Gross!

That sounds like the cure for some sort of parasitic intestinal worm one would pick up after drinking the water native to an equatorial locale.

Definitely not an Apple name!

Ah, rumors...

[milozauckerman]

Streaming movies? I find that questionable.

Does USB have the bandwidth to carry a strong (DVD-quality) video signal to a television?

[stevehp]

So you're telling me apple keeps everything top secret just to blow their whole agenda the night before the keynote? I say hoax, even though we may see many of these products announced.

[vega07]

oh god...this schedule doesn't sound very plausible.

tubeport? :eek: the name will taint apple.

[jessep28]

That is the only criticism I have about Apple. They put out great computer products, but they rob people via their music and now video service.

There are others that will let you download watch unlimited movies for a flat fee. If this really catches on it could take a good market share chunk away from Netflix. However, this product is still in the intro or growth stage and the market is still being defined probably.

[rtdgoldfish]

TubePort?? Why would Apple make something with a "USB Dongle" when they could just add video support to the AirPort Express?? Sounds like a load of crap to me...

[Chundles]

TubePort?? Why would Apple make something with a "USB Dongle" when they could just add video support to the AirPort Express?? Sounds like a load of crap to me...

Because whilst 802.11g doesn't have the bandwidth to stream decent sized video files, Ultra-Wideband or Wireless USB does.

I still think it's bollocks however.

[milozauckerman]

There are others that will let you download watch unlimited movies for a flat fee.
Not necessarily a flat fee, but I think the market that could set download-to-own on fire is that old standby porn.

No more worries that wifey will open that brown box that came in the mail, and no more driving to the seedy end of town to browse through racks of fake boobs.

It worked for VCRs and DVD, it should work now.

[Kingsly]

I'd like it better if they called it TubeSock.



I. WANT. A. WIFI. ENABLED. iPOD. !!!!!

[Peace]

The term "Tubes" is an Apple trademark as of Oct. 17th.It is a case for the iPod.

I looked it up..

TUAW has it way way wrong..
As I suspect most people do.

[livingfortoday]

I don't care what anyone says, I want a TubePort. I don't even own a TV, but it'd be a great way to get chicks to come over - "Hey baby, wanna come back to my place and I can show you my TubePort?"

Though I guess it would work better if a girl said it to a guy.

[dongmin]

Reposting from TUAW. Sorry if someone got it first
http://www.tuaw.com/2006/09/11/apples-agenda-for-the-media-event/ * One More Thing....TubePort. A $99 2-piece set that includes a dongle that connects via USB to your mac, and another dongle that connects via included HD cables or regular Component cables to your TV. The movie is accessed on your Mac via an iDisk-like storage component hosted by Apple.This last bit sounds familiar. The blog post is possibly a rehash of all the rumors flying around. I call fake.

Anyways, can someone explain to me how this Tubeport thing works? Is it wireless USB or plain ol wired USB? I didn't think wireless USB was out in the market yet. And I'm a bit skeptical about how well this iDisk-like storage would work considering how bad iDisk is right now. And what if you wanted to take some videos on your MacBook on the road? Lots of questions (and questionable details).

[scottkleinberg]

Why Steve Jobs is holding an event in California when Paris Expo is starting? I think there's something to the long distance thing. If you remember correctly, iChat was introduced between California and Paris. What if Steve is in California and Jonathan Ive is at Paris Expo with the new iPhone used as the video conferencing communication device?

Is that so far-fetched?

[thejadedmonkey]

Honestly, it sounds really fishy. well, tube-y. Why not just use a S-video TV out cable, that costs $5?

[yoda13]

Am I the only one that is disturbed by Apple purportedly releasing a dongle...this one sounds fishy to me, but we'll see tomorrow. A dongle sounds un apple like though.

[scottkleinberg]

Or, he could be in california and stream a movie across the Atlantic to Paris -- on an iPhone ... I just don't understand why he's not in Paris. Why California? There's a transatlantic component there and it makes no sense if it's not going to be a communication device.

[jholzner]

That is the only criticism I have about Apple. They put out great computer products, but they rob people via their music and now video service.

There are others that will let you download watch unlimited movies for a flat fee. If this really catches on it could take a good market share chunk away from Netflix. However, this product is still in the intro or growth stage and the market is still being defined probably.

I don't see how it would impact netflix at all since they have a rental model and Apple's seems to be for purchase only. They won't be getting any of my money unless I can rent. I have no interest in buying a movie. I only rent now anyway.

[Chundles]

The million dollar question is.....can you send internets over this Tube thingy?

I guess it would depend on the size of the tube...

[Peace]

Or, he could be in california and stream a movie across the Atlantic to Paris -- on an iPhone ... I just don't understand why he's not in Paris. Why California? There's a transatlantic component there and it makes no sense if it's not going to be a communication device.

Jobs did this before and it had nothing to do with a communications device.

Simply put..Steve is dissing France for the DRM thing.

[yg17]

If movies really are 20 bucks, then that's just a ripoff. Especially considering the fact that I pay 15 a month and get 2 DVDs at a time with Netflix.

[dongmin]

Found it. It's from an old Think Secret rumor (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0511contentdist.html) (so you know it's b.s.).

In an effort to appease media companies wary of the security of digital rights management technology, Apple's new technology will deliver content such that it never actually resides on the user's hard drive. Content purchased will be automatically made available on a user's iDisk, which Front Row 2.0 will tap into. When the user wishes to play the content, robust caching technology -- for which Apple previously received a patent -- will serve it to the user's computer as fast as their Internet connection can handle. The system will also likely support downloading the video content to supported iPods but at no time will it ever actually be stored on a computer's hard drive.

[bigbossbmb]

Does USB have the bandwidth to carry a strong (DVD-quality) video signal to a television?

O yeah, thats how we have external DVD drives for our computer. I think you may have meant to say wireless-USB, which I haven't heard much about...but I believe it is supposed to have similar transfer rates as USB.

The real question is: Are people's internet connections capable of streaming DVD quality video? I think not.

This is fake. If I'm wrong, then Apple's in trouble because this is a horrible idea. People don't want to pay $15 to stream a movie. No access to your (DVD quality) movie when on a plane flight? People have to clog up their internet connection whenever they want to watch a movie?

NO WAY

[Cougarcat]

Or, he could be in california and stream a movie across the Atlantic to Paris -- on an iPhone ... I just don't understand why he's not in Paris. Why California? There's a transatlantic component there and it makes no sense if it's not going to be a communication device.

Maybe because the Movie Store will initially be US and UK only. If he announced it in Paris, it'd be awkward: "Announcing the brand new Movie store...but not for you guys! Sorry. Maybe in a year or two."

[dongmin]

Am I the only one that is disturbed by Apple purportedly releasing a dongle...this one sounds fishy to me, but we'll see tomorrow. A dongle sounds un apple like though.Most definitely not the Apple way to go. Not one but two dongles. I don't think so.

[Bibulous]

This would be a bummer, pretty lame, let's hope Steve can still do better.

[yg17]

Jobs did this before and it had nothing to do with a communications device.


Typically, whenever there's videocommunications, it's doing something like showing off a new version of iChat or the iSight or something. iChat? Nope. That won't be getting anything new until Leopard. iSight? Doubt that either. Could updated iSights be released? Doubtful, but possible. If they are, would there be anything to show off? No, the iSight is a camera...nothing more, nothing less. What makes an iSight great is iChat, see my previous point. If there is going to be video chat, then something new will probably be demo'ed. Which leaves us to the only possible product that would be new and need demoing....an iPhone.

That said....do I think there will be any video chat and thus, an iPhone? No. I think it's clear that tomorrows event revolves around movies, with the Showtime stuff and all.

Found it. It's from an old Think Secret rumor (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0511contentdist.html) (so you know it's b.s.).


So, if that's true (and that's a big if), then, you need to have .Mac to purchase movies. And, if you have a slow connection (maybe not dial up, but not super fast broadband either), you're screwed. No, not gonna happen.

[MacinDoc]

Apple calling a device TubePort? I don't think so.

Streaming movies for $15? Who would buy them?

$5 more so you can view it on your iPod? Totally flies in the face of the iTunes model for multiple device sharing.

And 2 dongles?

Give me a break. Nothing to see here, move along...

[dongmin]

OK, so I just looked up wireless USB on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_usb). The range is somewhat limited:

480 Mbps for up to 3 meters (a shade under 10 ft)
110 Mbps for up to 10 meters (33 ft)

So your MacBook + dongle needs to be within 33 ft of your TV for this thing to work. Sounds a bit dodgy.

So, if that's true (and that's a big if), then, you need to have .Mac to purchase movies. And, if you have a slow connection (maybe not dial up, but not super fast broadband either), you're screwed. No, not gonna happen.Well the TUAW report says the service will be like iDisk so it doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with .Mac. But it's still bullocks if you ask me.

[janitorC7]

* One More Thing....TubePort. A $99 2-piece set that includes a dongle that connects via USB to your mac, and another dongle that connects via included HD cables or regular Component cables to your TV. The movie is accessed on your Mac via an iDisk-like storage component hosted by Apple.
."

I would not be suprised if somthing like this was to be announced, but I'd expect and 802.11 setup, though a Airport, Imagine this Airport Express featuring airport and TELEPORT

I like the teleport name, Tubeport sounds ickey

[sisyphus]

Not gonna happen.

No remote control of the movies? Uh-uh.

$99 for a "Tube Port" when the airport express costs $129? Uh-uh.

Ah this is written, introduce movies, then a nano, then iPod then this Tube thingy and then the movie price?

Whatever he is smoking is too potent... Maybe Jobs has become scatter brained...

This is the worst one in a while... :rolleyes:

[Moonlight]

One of these things he quotes here, I know to be 100% accurate.
Information he would not be able to get without being in the know. As far as the rest ? I can't say for sure, but why would he have one thing 100% correct and not the rest ?

Which one I know is correct ? I can't tell you....




Reposting from TUAW. Sorry if someone got it first
http://www.tuaw.com/2006/09/11/apples-agenda-for-the-media-event/

Looks like what we though: streaming playback to TV and new nano. No new "video" iPod. Sorry if this has been posted already.

No mention of MBP merom. I personally dont think it is coming out untill late september.

QUOTE:
"...Let's just say I have been informed by a little reliable birdy about Tomorrow's event. The line-up will follow this similar structure:

* Welcoming of Media Members
* Discussion on iTunes software, iTMS integration into iTunes, and iTMS sales and facts.
* Announcement of iTunes version 7.0
* Announces better search feature for Music Store
* Announces Movie Store. Available Immediately will be movies from Disney and Pixar, among other studios.
* New iPod Nano Announcement (nice brushed casing, while it will have same features as first gen, only a longer battery life)
* New iPod Announcement (Widescreen, Bluetooth, and featuring virtual touchweel. Does not include Wi-Fi, or any other protocols)
* One More Thing....TubePort. A $99 2-piece set that includes a dongle that connects via USB to your mac, and another dongle that connects via included HD cables or regular Component cables to your TV. The movie is accessed on your Mac via an iDisk-like storage component hosted by Apple.


Jobs will then explain the pricing structure of the Movie Store. Movies will be available as either a smaller iPod-format (which will cost $9.99 per movie), or as a larger, streamed movie to be streamed to your TV via TubePort. This cost $14.99 per movie. To purchase an iPod-formatted movie and a streamed version of the same movie, it will cost you $19.99."

[jacksonjesse]

What about a G5 Powerbook?
Yeah, confirmed! This Tuesday! At least this it what the T-shirt (http://curmi.com/blog/2006/09/11/confirmed-powerbook-g5-this-tuesday/) says!

I think the *true* video iPod is going down this track, but prove me wrong Steve!

[SAukland]

DUH!! Doesn't everyone remember the rumors of the partnership with Youtube?

I have it on good authority that it will be announced at the special event tomorrow. I simply cannot wait to buy myself a YouTubePort.

And you can take that to bank!

[WildCowboy]

Which one I know is correct ? I can't tell you....

Welcoming of media members?

:cool:

[Snowy_River]

I don't care what anyone says, I want a TubePort. I don't even own a TV, but it'd be a great way to get chicks to come over - "Hey baby, wanna come back to my place and I can show you my TubePort?"

Though I guess it would work better if a girl said it to a guy.

It could still be a pick-up line for a guy, you just need to phrase it right:

"I'll show you my TubePort, if you show me yours..." ;)

However, I still think it's a terrible name.

[Silencio]

Gee, wasn't Apple working on Wireless Firewire at some point in time?

For $15 or whatever, I imagine they keep the movie on the server for you to stream down whenever you want to watch it. And I don't know if it would be tied directly to iDisk since not everyone has .Mac -- and iDisk is so horribly slow over WebDAV to begin with, it wouldn't be any good for streaming video. They'd really need that caching/peering technology to pay off in spades to make something like this happen.

Even still, it's way too expensive. If I'm not going to get fancy packaging and other extras, I'm sticking with my GreenCine (http://www.greencine.com) subscription.

TubePort sounds daft as hell. What an inelegant solution, worthy of a forgotten skunkworks deep in the bowels of Redmond.

I hope this report is largely BS. If a wide-screen iPod with virtual touchwheel does surface, I'm buying one for myself for Xmas. :D

[ddrueckhammer]

Because whilst 802.11g doesn't have the bandwidth to stream decent sized video files, Ultra-Wideband or Wireless USB does.

I still think it's bollocks however.

I'm no video expert so don't flame me but...

I just did a quick check using http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

and a 90minute 1.36 GB DVD quality feature with 224 kbps is 1846kbps

kbps = kilobit per second (not byte)...

I have a 5mbps connection speed but after overhead it is more like 4 so the connection is no problem but you still can't stream at this speed because the movie plays too fast for it to finish downloading first...

The USB2 is a little less than 400mbps so it isn't a problem. 802.11g is 54mbps which may not be able to stream video unbuffered but if you let it buffer for a bit you should have no problem. Main problem people will run into is that if you have a 750kbps connection or less then things won't be too fast to download.

I just downloaded a movie from Amazon Unbox tonight and it took 1.5 hours to completely download the 1.5Gb file but it let me start streaming after 1/3 had completed downloading. My connection is 5mbps but I'm pretty sure Amazon was capping the download spead to 300KBps (Kilobytes) or 2.4Mbps (i'm not sure that I did that right but its something like that) as I checked some bandwidth sites and I should have been getting something like 420KBps after overhead.

So basically, with H.264 Apple should be able to deliver under 3 hour total download times for people with 3Mbps or faster connections and streaming after a certain amount has completed. The wireless part is irrelevent because 802.11g is faster than your internet anyway and if the receiving end has some memory for a small buffer before it delivers it to the TV then you shouldn't see any lag after it begins playing...

If those are the prices, Apple can forget about taking over the living room because Verizon's On-Demand service with Fios is going to kill this where it is available. It will be instant because the content will be delivered at the full 15Mbps or more and it is already at your TV so no need for wireless streaming. Also, the price is crazy. Amazon is already cheaper than what is listed and offers rentals; which, despite the lack of a nice UI and general user-friendlyness is fairly compelling. I rented an older movie for $2.99 and it downloaded in 1.5 hours and was available to stream after 25 minutes. The only piece missing was how to get it from my laptop to the TV which I solved with a $5 S-video cable. Too bad they won't support Mac OS... Wireless would be nice, but in this case the software sells the hardware and what is listed at the beginning of this thread is completely meh to me. Jobs is completely wrong here IMO. At this price structure, rentals are the way to go. Why would anyone buy a movie at full price without the physical packaging or extras? I am not even taking Netflix into account, which, looks like will be a major competitor for a long time to come unless Apple will start offering rentals under $4 like Amazon...Even then, many will stick with the cheaper Netflix...

[Snowy_River]

...but why would he have one thing 100% correct and not the rest ?

Dumb luck? A good guess? None of this stuff seems too hard to guess at given the rumors that have been around for quite some time. The big problem with the old Think Secret rumor is that Amazon has demonstrated that the studios aren't that scared of downloaded movies.

I don't think that anyone has said it, yet, so I'm happy to be the first. If this is what Apple is going to announce, then it is a far worse solution than what Amazon announced last week. That, in and of itself, is the most powerful argument for this being BS, if you ask me.

[impierced]

If movies really are 20 bucks, then that's just a ripoff. Especially considering the fact that I pay 15 a month and get 2 DVDs at a time with Netflix.

Considering that I can buy a DVD for $19 the day it's released, this seems a bit expensive.

And I believe every bit of the agenda. Anyone remember the GeoPort Apple had? TubePort is a pictureTUBE connection and sounds very plausable.

[BWhaler]

Welcoming of media members?

:cool:

Curses. You beat me to the punch with this joke.

[dongmin]

BTW isn't Tube+Port kinda redundant??? It's a bit like saying MouthHole.

[Superdrive]

This tube device would be Mac only? That in itself doesn't make sense. Especially at $99.

[BWhaler]

My take:

Reasons why it may be true:

1. It's kinda disappointing, which is typical for Apple events. I'm not saying Apple is doing bad things, it's just that our expectations are always too high.

2. Has the rhythm and timing of a typical keynote

Reasons Why it may be false:

1. Keeping the Nano at the same capacity is beyond foolish. 8 gig sims are out and in competing products. Why would Apple not bump? (Heck 64 gig SIMMs were announced today from long term partner Samsung. What if the new nano has 64 gigs of flash memory?)

2. TubePort offering sounds too dumb for Apple. How could Apple ensure that the streaming worked between devices and over the internet? They can't, so it won't happen.

3. Pricing seems bad for what it is. I've gotta believe given the fact that Apple basically convinced no vested parties to offer content, the term of service have to be better than this.

My first instinct was that this was correct, and I was disappointed. But the more I thought about it, the more flaws I see. Fingers crossed that Apple has more to show than this.

[ddrueckhammer]

If this is what Apple is going to announce, then it is a far worse solution than what Amazon announced last week. That, in and of itself, is the most powerful argument for this being BS, if you ask me.

I agree 100% and think that if they offer a worse solution than Amazon then they might as well not announce anything at all. Of course, the studios may have blackballed them for refusing to adopt a variable price structure and Jobs is on the board for Disney. Part of his job is to make sure that they make maximum profits for the shareholders. Can you say confilict of interests?

Keeping the Nano at the same capacity is beyond foolish.

I Agree again...There is no way this is true. If it is then Apple is getting way too greedy and deserve to lose this segment.

I can see them using the iDisk similar to the "media library" at Amazon to back up purchases so that you don't have to buy things twice if you lose them...

All of these movie stores require at least a 3Mbps connection to even be worth looking at although with buffing the wireless device could be compelling if the media store works out. As I said earlier though, Apple has alot of competition with on-demand, physical media (HD, Blueray etc), Netflix, and now Amazon...

[IndyGopher]

OK, so I just looked up wireless USB on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_usb). The range is somewhat limited:

480 Mbps for up to 3 meters (a shade under 10 ft)
110 Mbps for up to 10 meters (33 ft)

So your MacBook + dongle needs to be within 33 ft of your TV for this thing to work. Sounds a bit dodgy.

Well the TUAW report says the service will be like iDisk so it doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with .Mac. But it's still bullocks if you ask me.

33 ft radius allows for what? a 3400 foot area to arrange your tv and computer in? I think most people could suffer with that.

Granted, the whole thing sounds fallacious but the range of wireless USB is not the problem.

[ddrueckhammer]

33 ft radius allows for what? a 3400 foot area to arrange your tv and computer in? I think most people could suffer with that.

Granted, the whole thing sounds fallacious but the range of wireless USB is not the problem.

Do you really think it will be wireless USB or just two 802.11g hotspots with USB2.0 inputs/outputs. 802.11g isn't enough to stream in itself but if they put some memory in the receiving unit then they can buffer...

[Bitman]

Disney only taker for iTunes movie sales
Last Update: 9:59 PM ET Sep 11, 2006

CUPERTINO, Calif., Sep 11, 2006 (UPI via COMTEX) -- When Apple Computer Inc. begins selling Hollywood films online this week on iTunes, the U.S. company only will be able to offer Disney Studios films.
Daily Variety said Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs' unwillingness to price the downloadable videos as high as movie studios would have liked ultimately resulted in Disney being the only studio signed on to offer its wares on iTunes beginning Tuesday.
Upon its launch, the new iTunes video section will offer film classics for $9.99 and sell all new releases for $14.99, in comparison to Amazon's Unbox, which offers films at costs ranging from $8 to $20.
While Disney's decision to sell on iTunes may come under scrutiny due to the fact that Jobs is the studio's major shareholder, Daily Variety said if the partnership proves profitable other major studios likely will follow in Disney's footsteps.

[macnews]

The price point needs to change. That alone would be a no go for me.

I also want a rental model, and frankly don't see why Apple couldn't produce all three options: buy, monthly subscription, ala carte rental. We are not talking about music, which is much different and prior to iTunes there was only ONE successful business model for music and that was people BUYING them. Apple offered singles and tracks just like you would find in a brick and mortar store, only offering more singles bringing us back in to the 21st century (we left it in the 80's when tapes became the rage and singles left the shelves).

Currently, there are successful business models for buying individual movies, renting individual movies (blockbuster, hastings,etc) and subscription (netflicks and one most people forget about - HBO). Pricing for each has to be right. You can't charge more than what you would pay at a brick and mortar store and should ideally cost less.

I hope that is what Apple comes out with and NOT the junk listed in this rumor. A new touch screen iPod was about the only exciting thing, the rest was rather discouraging.

[dongmin]

33 ft radius allows for what? a 3400 foot area to arrange your tv and computer in? I think most people could suffer with that.

Granted, the whole thing sounds fallacious but the range of wireless USB is not the problem.Notice that it's up to 10 meters which means, in reality, it'll be much less. If I keep my Mac Pro in my office, will I be able to stream consistently to the TV in the living room 25 ft away, through walls, furniture, interference, etc.? I highly doubt it. It's about as realistic as saying you'll get 54 Mbps 100 ft away on a 801.11g network.

[bloodycape]

If the current ipod does not have the best video battery life I wonder how much different this new widscreen one with bluetooth is going to be. If apple can get at least 4-5 hours(to be competitive at least) with bluetooth(off that is) on a removable battery, then they will have a nice seller. That is as long as they keep the current 5g seeing as not everyone want a video player with a 4in screen(assuming that Apple is smart and wants to keep competitive with best in the video market the ZV/W Archos Av and 04 series and the Cowon A2).

And I doubt they will only add battery to the new Nano, if anything it will be longer battery life and a 6gig option(if we are really lucky the new 16 and 32gig cf cards samsung introduced recently).

And with this streaming does that mean for the price of 15bucks do I get to keep the film and stream it when ever I want or is it a rental thing? I think it be nice if they have a rental option if they don't.

[splintah]

man thats rather expensive

i mean i can get dvds for that price
and have a nice case and making ofs and so on


tubeport ?
what the heck ?!
i hope its a tv out without a cable, and not some proprietary thing that only works with itms videos

[mattham]

How about a firmware update & a usb dongle that plugs into (a mostly unused usb port) on the existing airport base station. That could give video capabilities to existing setups.


Dont know why I care - I cant see australian ITMS getting movies anytime soon :-(

Matt :-)

[Stridder44]

I don't care what's actually going to happen, at $9.99 a movie Im not even going to be bothering with that crap. Unless of course it's DVD quality, is burnable, and transferable to 2-3 computers.


This is of course assuming the rumors are true.

[Bonte]

* New iPod Announcement (Widescreen, Bluetooth, and featuring virtual touchweel. Does not include Wi-Fi, or any other protocols)

Seems like a completely plausible lineup to me, like the Zune all wi-fi hardware needs to be listed before its sold. Movie downloads at $15 is $5 to high but thats not Apple's fault.

The USB streaming is good but i hope there is a network port on it, i have giga network available near the TV. And if its p&p Windows compatible Apple will sell millions.

[edmiya]

Somebody there remember the iPod Hi-Fi launch event (Funny products)?
I'm sure most of us (and the midia) was waiting for inovative and cool products! What we get, iPod Hi-Fi and you can not connect your iPod and your mac with it!!! Think you can use this as speaker for your mac (optical cable) ,but not a iPod dock no USB or FireWire port there.
Now TubePort if this stuff have a digital/analogue TV tuner and let me watch and record TV shows (in the dongle).
Now in the other side (my living room) a remote control with a interface like the frontrow and i can acess not only my movies but music, photos and recorded TV show. Sure i will buy it ,but if this can not do none of this just will be another iPod HI-FI for me.
I love my macs but but is time to Apple (Stevie Jobs) wake up with a win. media center you can watch and record TV and the Microsoft music/Video player (Zune) is on the way for sure you can record TV in your PC and watch it in the zune or PC.
How many of us have time to wach all ours favorites TV Show at home?
But how about in the office or on the way (inside the Plane, Taxi, Bus, Train, Subway).
If the TubePort can do like the Slingbox record from home and wach it in the hotel room or just wach your cable TV from the hotel in your laptop!
Well Stevie think this is a Piracy (SlingBox) but Think this will be easy to control
with the .Mac sever if you own for example a .Mac account,Mac desktop in home and also you own a laptop the user names will be the same this mean the same person is using both of the computers were is the Piracy in this case? (We have rights)
19 bucks for a movie download! No a prefer to buy a DVD at Amazon or EBay and enjoy the full quality in my home theater (5.1Ch Dolby Digital and everthing else) and now is easy to Rip a DVD into your Mac/iPod.
Want to keep the iPod/iTunes in the top? Well Stevie is time to THINK DIFFERENT! Remember the Win. Media center is already in the market, and ZUNE is comming!
I hope someday Stevie can do more for us Mac users.

[Chundles]

Somebody there remember the iPod Hi-Fi launch event (Funny products)?
I'm sure most of us (and the midia) was waiting for inovative and cool products! What we get, iPod Hi-Fi and you can not connect your iPod and your mac with it!!! Think you can use this as speaker for your mac (optical cable) ,but not a iPod dock no USB or FireWire port there.
Now TubePort if this stuff have a digital/analogue TV tuner and let me watch and record TV shows (in the dongle).
Now in the other side (my living room) a remote control with a interface like the frontrow and i can acess not only my movies but music, photos and recorded TV show. Sure i will buy it ,but if this can not do none of this just will be another iPod HI-FI for me.
I love my macs but but is time to Apple (Stevie Jobs) wake up with a win. media center you can watch and record TV and the Microsoft music/Video player (Zune) is on the way for sure you can record TV in your PC and watch it in the zune or PC.
How many of us have time to wach all ours favorites TV Show at home?
But how about in the office or on the way (inside the Plane, Taxi, Bus, Train, Subway).
If the TubePort can do like the Slingbox record from home and wach it in the hotel room or just wach your cable TV from the hotel in your laptop!
Well Stevie think this is a Piracy (SlingBox) but Think this will be easy to control
with the .Mac sever if you own for example a .Mac account,Mac desktop in home and also you own a laptop the user names will be the same this mean the same person is using both of the computers were is the Piracy in this case? (We have rights)
19 bucks for a movie download! No a prefer to buy a DVD at Amazon or EBay and enjoy the full quality in my home theater (5.1Ch Dolby Digital and everthing else) and now is easy to Rip a DVD into your Mac/iPod.
Want to keep the iPod/iTunes in the top? Well Stevie is time to THINK DIFFERENT! Remember the Win. Media center is already in the market, and ZUNE is comming!
I hope someday Stevie can do more for us Mac users.

The iPod HiFi has a Universal Dock on the top that can accept all docking iPods. It also has an auxiliary optical/analogue input on the back so you can connect a Mac or any other audio source. You can also attach an Airport Express and stream your music wirelessly to it.

Please do some actual research before you post.

As for the rest of your post, I realise English isn't your first language so I can't really comment - it doesn't make much sense.

[Multimedia]

I personally would rather see a kentsfield MBP. :PI know you are probably kidding. But just in case, you realize Kentsfield - now dubbed Core 2 Quadro - is not a mobile processor right?

If this event is only about iPods and selling movies online, I find the subject to be very boring and uninteresting. Perhaps I will enhoy a widescreen video iPod. But I'm not sure it's much more interesting than the existing video iPod.

I do not believe selling movies online will be successful. I think it's really a stupid concept. DVDs are much higher quality and cost less as well. I don't understand this business concept.

[kadajawi]

Because whilst 802.11g doesn't have the bandwidth to stream decent sized video files, Ultra-Wideband or Wireless USB does.

I still think it's bollocks however.
Uh... nope. http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2006/08/13/hp_mediasmart_d.html 37" HDTV screen, getting its HD content via WiFi.

[Chundles]

I know you are probably kidding. But just in case, you realize Kentsfield - now dubbed Core 2 Quadro - is not a mobile processor right?

If this event is only about iPods and selling movies online, I find the subject to be very boring and uninteresting. Perhaps I will enhoy a widescreen video iPod. But I'm not sure it's much more interesting than the existing video iPod.

I do not believe selling movies online will be successful. I think it's really a stupid concept. DVDs are much higher quality and cost less as well. I don't understand this business concept.

I agree about downloading movies - just don't see the point.

But the event coming up in the wee small hours of Wednesday morning is a consumer event, I doubt we'll see anything to do with MacBook Pros tomorrow.

[iMikeT]

I think the fake report is fake.

[Chundles]

Uh... nope. http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2006/08/13/hp_mediasmart_d.html 37" HDTV screen, getting its HD content via WiFi.


Well I'll be damned. Does it support HD content (1080i) over that WiFi connection or does that require the ethernet connection? I couldn't find anything that specified.

Very cool though.

[Leemo]

I do not believe selling movies online will be successful. I think it's really a stupid concept. DVDs are much higher quality and cost less as well. I don't understand this business concept.

You haven't seen Apple's business model for this concept though have you? Saying 'DVDs are much higher quality' is ridiculous until we know how Apple is distributing content, they could be using HD versions for all we know, which would blow DVD quality out of the water.

Why is it a stupid concept? If they're reasonably priced and they start off with a few decent films I can't see it being long before the major studios back Apple in this regard - fewer distribution costs + higher percentage of profit from sale = a happy studio.

I don't tend to buy DVDs anymore, but if I see some decent films for only a few £ it's going to make an impulse buy more attractive for me at least.

-Leemo

[mdriftmeyer]

$20 to buy per movie?

I'd rather go to the local movie store and buy my own DVD.

[generik]

$20 to buy per movie?

I'd rather go to the local movie store and buy my own DVD.

You forgot it is Apple branded movies, not only do you get less, but you pay 20% more than the competitors in the form of Apple Tax.

[rdrr]

tubeport sounds a lot like elgato eyetv harware, except they use firewire from the mac.

[asxtb]

The iPod HiFi has a Universal Dock on the top that can accept all docking iPods. It also has an auxiliary optical/analogue input on the back so you can connect a Mac or any other audio source. You can also attach an Airport Express and stream your music wirelessly to it.

Please do some actual research before you post.

As for the rest of your post, I realise English isn't your first language so I can't really comment - it doesn't make much sense.
I think he means that you can't dock the iPod in the Hi-Fi and have it sync/update with the computer at the same time.

[Chundles]

I think he means that you can't dock the iPod in the Hi-Fi and have it sync/update with the computer at the same time.

Oh OK, yeah, couldn't quite figure it out.

[HiRez]

Let's see, they just introduced a leather iPod sleeve for $99, now they're going to release an ultrawideband wireless A/V transceiver 2-piece set for the same price? I think not.

[MattG]

I'd like it better if they called it TubeSock.



I. WANT. A. WIFI. ENABLED. iPOD. !!!!!

Yup.

Looks like I won't be buying a new one, not unless there's something else in there besides WiFi that *really* makes it worth buying. I'll stick with my iPod Photo for now.

[Chundles]

Let's see, they just introduced a leather iPod sleeve for $99, now they're going to release an ultrawideband wireless A/V transceiver 2-piece set for the same price? I think not.

iPod AV Connection Kit:

- Universal Dock
- Apple Remote
- Power Adapter
- USB to Dock Connector cable
- AV cables
- Dock Adapters

$149

Apple Leather Case for iPod:

$149

Wouldn't be all that out of the ordinary...

[dalvin200]

You forgot it is Apple branded movies, not only do you get less, but you pay 20% more than the competitors in the form of Apple Tax.

at the start and end of each movie, you see Jobs doing a funny dance..

well worth the 20% tax :P

[dalvin200]

I do not believe selling movies online will be successful. I think it's really a stupid concept. DVDs are much higher quality and cost less as well. I don't understand this business concept.

you forget that people pay for the convenience, just like how you get charged £1 or £2 just to withdraw money out of your own bank account from one of those mobile ATM's in pubs etc..

to go to video store, you have to leave the house, use some sort of transport and then get to the store.. all takes time and effort (ok, laziness).. in that time, you could of been streaming a movie from iTMS (or whatever it will be called).

i think they will nail any hardware/software issues down to a T - but i do think that the pricing is the key to it's success.

and also, make it available OUTSIDE THE US!!! :D

[macenforcer]

Man just bring on this new ipod with full screen baby.

[iGary]

This sounds like the most realistic report yet.

[whooleytoo]

So, you have to pay for the film to watch it on TV, and pay again if you want to watch it on your iPod... That's stupid enough to be a genuine MPAA idea, I think he's telling the truth!

[hvfsl]

I hope this is wrong because I really want the next gen iPod to have wifi. The MS Zune has it, so it would be a disadvantage if Apple didn't.

Being able to wirelessly stream music to my airport express or listen to other people's iTunes librarys using an iPod is something I have always wanted to do since I got my first iPod back in 2004.

[FleurDuMal]

OK, unless I've completely misunderstood this, haven't Apple got their naming all wrong? Surely the device which allows you to stream to TV's should be called AirTube, or AirVideos, or something like that? More in line with the AirTunes audio equivalent.

Apologies if this has already been posted. :o

[Dagless]

Tube... thanks to the branding of YouTube I think internet videos have become synonymous with that website. Which is where I think the "leaker" is playing with us. It sounds credible with that name, but Apple don't want you to think YouTube, they want you to think iTunes, and of course to fit in with their Air products - AirTunes? It has been done.

An updated one is something I think we will see. Or even at all, I really can't see wireless video streaming taking hold. Maybe an AirTunes with a built in mini Hard Drive (Flash memory?) that caches a bit of a film and it can then be streamed via regular old WiFi, increasing the possible range?

All I know for sure is that when the Apple event is taking place I'll be down a cave somewhere.

[RichP]

Im not thrilled with the name or details, but I will say that I agree with iGary, this rumor seems pretty plausible.

A "proprietary" RF USB dongle to transmit video to the TV seems like the only way to go to deliver the dedicated bandwidth you need for video.

Only answer I didnt see was how you control tubeworm when you are seated at the TV. Noone wants to deal with a keyboard and mouse when you are trying to watch a movie.

[generik]

you forget that people pay for the convenience, just like how you get charged £1 or £2 just to withdraw money out of your own bank account from one of those mobile ATM's in pubs etc..


Convenience? Thanks but no thanks.

Unless it is offered in HD resolution, I can probably buy my own DVDs for more convenience.

[xappeal]

If the iPhone were/is ready that would totally take the cake as a "just one more thing". The tubeport thing whilst really cool (especially if it has an ir port for my mac remote, or bluetooth to use a new ipod as a remote) seems a bit lame for that honour.

I thing the shuffle should be merged with the apple remote.... as an irrelevant side point.

[jagolden]

BTW isn't Tube+Port kinda redundant??? It's a bit like saying MouthHole.


No redundency there.

But people still have a habit of calling the television the "tube" as in "What's on the tube?"

TunePort (if it was true) could mean connect (port) to television (tube).
Somewhat doubtful though.

Besides the pricing structure is completely out of whack. Unless someone has to have a movie the day it's released on DVD, you can get them for in hand for $7 to $13. Who'd want to pay $20 for something you don't even own AND worse, runs through (possibly) iDisk? Bleh!

[edmiya]

The iPod HiFi has a Universal Dock on the top that can accept all docking iPods. It also has an auxiliary optical/analogue input on the back so you can connect a Mac or any other audio source. You can also attach an Airport Express and stream your music wirelessly to it.

Please do some actual research before you post.

As for the rest of your post, I realise English isn't your first language so I can't really comment - it doesn't make much sense.


First sorry about my english, about the universal Dock conector and analogue/Digital imputs i know about that, what i mean is:

-How about a USB cable beteween the iPod Hi-Fi and a computer, for sync the 2 devices, i think i'm not the only one who wants to use it as computer speaker and iPod dock (My table allow to put it in the top of my iMac and will never forget to turn off the speakers again)
-I just could keep always the iPod on the top of the iPod HI-FI to upload
new tracks into the iPod.

My Bussiness parthener got the iPod hi-fi for our Office and we are using this with the Air Mac Express (optical Cable) for air tunes only.
Why apple made this just thinking about portabillity but not connectivy!

My point is:

If apple will sell the TubePort (if this is true) why not make a complete device witch we can do all (plus Wach and record TV in the macs, stream, it to your (and control it from your) living room.

We Mac users don't have alot options of hardware like the Pcs guys, we depent too much of apple for a nice solution for ours need (with a nice integration, functions and easy to use...example: iLife, iPods).
Stevie Jobs know is time to allow macs to wacth and record TV (like the old Performas), this is the future of eletronics: Integration and mac are easy to use wil not be a nice deal? (for bussiness)

If you have a chance take a walk in the eletronic stores here in Japan.
You will see a lot of all in one computers (like the iMac with a nice desing too) with a display up to 62 inch and Win Media Center to use in your living room, some models alow to you tranfer recorded TV Shows automaticaly to your mobile Phone or AVP Players. (Do you have time to wacth all your favorite TV Show at home?)

If Apple will be into the full movies downloads bussiness why not make a device what can make ours life complete for audiovisual files.
If we compare the win. Media Centers with Macs now we are missing some stuffs, but Microsoft stuffs are no easy to use , Apple stuff are easy to use, Stevie Jobs is just missing a big bussiness chance out there.
We know if Apple lose the iPod Market this company will not be the same.

Still i have faith Apple will sell a complete sollution for ours living room, but if not this 2 last post is my comentary! (The iPod HI-FI stereo solution
and funny products events still in my mind, i was waiting for more Apple like: creative and innovative products)

[aafuss1]

New accessories:-
Tube "skins" for the 5G iPod, with a lanyard-similar price to nano's tubes
Lanyard headphones for 5G/6th gen
IR receiver, ready for Leopard-customizable programming,like a universal remote. Same remote as iMac's
Sports kit/travel for 6th Gen
User video sharing features-upload to YouTube or a new iTMS section for used created, original vodcasts/videos
BBC TV shows on the UK store-perhaps Seven or Ten (Nine Network is MS centric), here in Australia
iPod shuffle discontinued entirely
IR receiver-looks like a Apple USB modem for Mac and iPod control (e.g. for older Macs).
Section on iTMS for original user-submittable video content-a Apple YouTube type solution

TubePort-HDMI as Sony has various HDMI equipped products that would be good for iPod intergration.

[peharri]

Because whilst 802.11g doesn't have the bandwidth to stream decent sized video files, Ultra-Wideband or Wireless USB does.

Well, that depends on what codec they're using. To put it bluntly, if it's not compressed small enough for 802.11g, how on Earth is anyone going to download content via their DSL or cable connection in anything like a reasonable amount of time, especially if, as rumoured (not just here but elsewhere) your movie will be "stored" on an iDisk and streamed to you in real time, rather than downloaded to your PC?

The only reason I can think of for them doing this is they want to dumb down the hardware and do all of the decoding (together with a significant amount of re-coding) on the Mac itself. That may get it to a lower price point, but when has Apple cared about prices above "just works" elegance and functionality? And would that price point really have been unachievable using off-the-shelf hardware given a DVD player that supports MPEG4 (disguised as WMV) generally costs under $50? Clearly hardware powerful enough to do the decoding at the TV end is cheap so why does it have to be done at the Mac end?

This looks like a kludge. Together with the other details such as the pricing of the service and lack of serious Nano updates, I hope the article is complete rubbish.

[rtdunham]

The only piece missing was how to get it from my laptop to the TV which I solved with a $5 S-video cable.

Lots of people point out the desirability of wireless so you don't have to have your computer in close proximity to the TV, or alternately, the desire for a new hardware product (usually a version of a mac mini) with the form factor of an audio-video component so it could fit on the stack and stay on the stack.

It seems to me there's a simpler alternative that could sell a lot of units, and work for a lot of us, while facilitating the laptop-to-TV conundrum:

Wouldn't any of the apple laptops work as a temporary component-on-the-stack if apple simply offered a dock with an AC and s-video connection?

Yes, you'd have to carry your laptop to the tv setup; yes, people with desktop 'puters wouldn't be served by this solution. And yes, with only those two connections it's merely a more elegant version of ddrueckhammer's fix. But add to that little component the ability to control via the apple remote, and bingo: Wouldn't that be an accessory lots of us would want and use, especially at a time when apple laptops outsell apple desktops by what, 4 to 1?

I'm brainstorming here. Throw the necessary rocks at the idea. Or elaborate upon it.

[milo]

I think this is pretty close to what we'll see...but I think it's more a guess of what's most likely than a leak.

TubePort? Terrible name, I doubt they'd go with that, at least I hope it's wrong.

I'm still skeptical that we'll see a full-on iPod with widescreen and especially bluetooth.

Otherwise, sounds about right. I think it will take a little bit to really "get" the new airport thing, but it should catch on in a big way. I'll probably buy one today if I can get my hands on it.

[netdog]

... but it'd be a great way to get chicks to come over - "Hey baby, wanna come back to my place and I can show you my TubePort?"



I think we had better poll the women of MR regarding the efficacy of such an approach. I have my doubts... :D

[psydoc]

I agree that "Tubeport" is a terrible (and non-Apple) sounding name.

I think something like "Tele-port" works better...

[aswitcher]

I agree that "Tubeport" is a terrible (and non-Apple) sounding name.

I think something like "Tele-port" works better...

Tubeport doesn't have much on google...

[rtdunham]

As for the rest of your post, I realise English isn't your first language so I can't really comment - it doesn't make much sense.

Your facts about the iPod Hi-Fi were useful and appropriate. The comment above was neither. Perhaps you were running back and forth to the barbie (what?) while reading it, and got distracted. I'd say, "right, mate?" but in my first language that doesn't translate quite right either. :confused:

Disclaimer: Loved your country and the people on my two visits. :)

[rtdunham]

If they're reasonably priced and they start off with a few decent films I can't see it being long before the major studios back Apple in this regard

Don't forget what Variety reported:

"Daily Variety said Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs' unwillingness to price the downloadable videos as high as movie studios would have liked"

Although i'm sure he's motivated by a business plan, i'm surprised how many posts overlook the fact that Jobs is championing a consumer-oriented position. The easy route to getting an apple movie studio in place would be to simply price the movies higher -- the studios would agree, he'd have his content, and so would we, but with higher prices. Don't we have uniform 99 cent music downloads now (can't argue that THAT position has failed as a business plan OR that it's disserved consumers, can we?) instead of variable pricing with many tunes costing more because that's what the studios wanted?

I used to work in the factory outlet industry; price and quality were the key points, but it was price that distinguished it. Now we've got Jobs' "unwillingness to price the...videos as high as movie studios would have liked" (worth quoting twice!) and we're complaining? Consumers should be cheering his efforts. IMHO.

[milo]

Streaming movies? I find that questionable.

Does USB have the bandwidth to carry a strong (DVD-quality) video signal to a television?

Absolutely. Does it take you two hours to copy a DVD to a USB2 drive? Does it take you two hours to load an iPod with 2 gigs of data via USB2? Not even close.

TubePort?? Why would Apple make something with a "USB Dongle" when they could just add video support to the AirPort Express?? Sounds like a load of crap to me...

Because the .g version of airport isn't robust enough to handle HD, and the .n version isn't finalized yet? A proprietary solution would make sense, especially if they can do it this cheaply. I still think it's likely this is a hoax and the box is simply a new Airport.

If movies really are 20 bucks, then that's just a ripoff. Especially considering the fact that I pay 15 a month and get 2 DVDs at a time with Netflix.

If cars really cost $12K, that's just a ripoff. Especially considering the fact that I rent one for $30 per day. :rolleyes:

Here's a hint: APPLES <> ORANGES

Most definitely not the Apple way to go. Not one but two dongles. I don't think so.

Well, there has to be *something* connected to the TV. This rumor just says that there will be a custom unit to send the video from the computer.

And it should be noted that this rumor doesn't say wireless USB, just that the units are connected via usb. That could be ANY transmission format, including a proprietary one.

[Chupa Chupa]

When I saw this posted on Gizmodo it looked reasonably believable until I saw the "one more thing." The TubePort just doesn't grab me as being "one more thing" worthy. It's a freaking cable..and seems a bit unnecesary. In my experience as a Mac FanBoy, "one more thing" has always mean "here comes a product that is going to make you lust in your heart, head, and bones." Tubeport just bores me. Whoever wrote this should have stopped at the video iPod. Now get a movie to stream to my iPod on-demand and I might get a little more giddy.

[Lepton]

Well I agree that new pods should have Bluetooth and not Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi sucks power, costs more, and an important point is that Bluetooth will soon be upgraded to be much faster and go much farther than before. Plus it works with a lot of AV stuff already like headsets, headphones, phones, and speakers.

[ddrueckhammer]

Lots of people point out the desirability of wireless so you don't have to have your computer in close proximity to the TV, or alternately, the desire for a new hardware product (usually a version of a mac mini) with the form factor of an audio-video component so it could fit on the stack and stay on the stack.

It seems to me there's a simpler alternative that could sell a lot of units, and work for a lot of us, while facilitating the laptop-to-TV conundrum:

Wouldn't any of the apple laptops work as a temporary component-on-the-stack if apple simply offered a dock with an AC and s-video connection?

Yes, you'd have to carry your laptop to the tv setup; yes, people with desktop 'puters wouldn't be served by this solution. And yes, with only those two connections it's merely a more elegant version of ddrueckhammer's fix. But add to that little component the ability to control via the apple remote, and bingo: Wouldn't that be an accessory lots of us would want and use, especially at a time when apple laptops outsell apple desktops by what, 4 to 1?

I'm brainstorming here. Throw the necessary rocks at the idea. Or elaborate upon it.


I think you do make a good point. Wireless is really nice and very possible solution but it seems like it is very expensive as well. Your dock idea is good but it doesn't help the desktop users out there and didn't Jobs say that computers don't belong in the living room a year or two ago? Of course, I guess they broke that rule when they put a remote in the mini....

The thing is, none of these solutions will sell unless Apple captures the downloadable movie market which means that they need lower prices, and/or more choice, and/or a rental option as well. If they don't have at least something better than what Amazon released last week then who cares.

[dongmin]

Well, that depends on what codec they're using. To put it bluntly, if it's not compressed small enough for 802.11g, how on Earth is anyone going to download content via their DSL or cable connection in anything like a reasonable amount of time, especially if, as rumoured (not just here but elsewhere) your movie will be "stored" on an iDisk and streamed to you in real time, rather than downloaded to your PC?You're completely right here. We're missing the point when we're comparing 801.11g, ultra-wideband, etc. The primary gating factor will be the bandwidth of the typical consumer's broadband connection, which I doubt is anything close to 25 Mbps (sustained throughput of 801.11g). I get about 4 Mbps through my cable modem, which I consider above average. With it, I can stream 480p without a hitch, like butter.
720p is also no problem, although it needs to buffer for a while.

[kingtj]

I'm 99% sure you won't see wi-fi on an iPod!
Jobs himself recently joked that he really hoped MS would add wi-fi to the Zune, because that would destroy its battery life.

Plus, wi-fi adds a level of complexity that I don't think Apple wants to put in a consumer electronics device like an iPod. (EG. How do you explain entering hexidecimal 128-bit WEP keys, or choosing the right version of WPA encryption protocol so your iPod can connect to a secure wireless network at somebody's friend's house?)

If you're going to do anything wireless with a music player, Bluetooth makes more sense - because the "pairing" procedure can be done with just a couple of "clicks" on appropriate menus, and people are already getting familiar with the technology on their cellphones and hands-free kits.


I hope this is wrong because I really want the next gen iPod to have wifi. The MS Zune has it, so it would be a disadvantage if Apple didn't.

Being able to wirelessly stream music to my airport express or listen to other people's iTunes librarys using an iPod is something I have always wanted to do since I got my first iPod back in 2004.

[HecubusPro]

If movies really are 20 bucks, then that's just a ripoff. Especially considering the fact that I pay 15 a month and get 2 DVDs at a time with Netflix.

If it were an HD movie, I'd probably pay $20, though then I'd have to get a terabyte drive in order to store all of the HD movies I'd be downloading.

[HecubusPro]

Tube... thanks to the branding of YouTube I think internet videos have become synonymous with that website. Which is where I think the "leaker" is playing with us. It sounds credible with that name, but Apple don't want you to think YouTube, they want you to think iTunes, and of course to fit in with their Air products - AirTunes? It has been done.

I just refuse to believe a word of it until I hear it from Steve's mouth. Some of this stuff seems absurb, some of it seems very reasonable. On the day of the event, I'm done speculating and I just want to be informed by Apple. :)

[FleurDuMal]

If it were an HD movie, I'd probably pay $20, though then I'd have to get a terabyte drive in order to store all of the HD movies I'd be downloading.

Given that Apple hasn't yet released a consumer machine that has the capacity to download and keep more than a handful of HD movies (on top of photos and music), then I really doubt there'll be any HD movies available for download.

I'm quite happy with standard DVD quality anyway.

[CEAbiscuit]

TubePort?? Why would Apple make something with a "USB Dongle" when they could just add video support to the AirPort Express?? Sounds like a load of crap to me...

"Tubeport" and "Dongle". Two words I will never type again.

[ddrueckhammer]

I'm 99% sure you won't see wi-fi on an iPod!
Jobs himself recently joked that he really hoped MS would add wi-fi to the Zune, because that would destroy its battery life.

Plus, wi-fi adds a level of complexity that I don't think Apple wants to put in a consumer electronics device like an iPod. (EG. How do you explain entering hexidecimal 128-bit WEP keys, or choosing the right version of WPA encryption protocol so your iPod can connect to a secure wireless network at somebody's friend's house?)

If you're going to do anything wireless with a music player, Bluetooth makes more sense - because the "pairing" procedure can be done with just a couple of "clicks" on appropriate menus, and people are already getting familiar with the technology on their cellphones and hands-free kits.

You've obviouly not ever used a Nintendo DS. Kids already connect wirelessly and enter a WEP keys on them. The DS solution isn't perfect because you still have to manually set up each connection but it detects most connections automatically and all you have to do is enter the WEP key via the touchscreen keyboard...

I agree that bluetooth probably makes more sense for connecting to speakers, headphones, car stereos etc but if you want to download directly to the iPod from any Wifi hotspot then you need Wifi. Battery life can be managed by putting a switch on the outside to easily turn-on or off the connection much like many Windows laptops have. I wouldn't put too much stock in what Steve says as he often goes back on it at a later date. People aren't as big of idiots as many would have you believe. Many cell phones have bluetooth which you have to turn off if you want maximum battery life. What do you think people are running around getting 4 hours of battery life because they are too stupid to turn off their bluetooth?

PSPs are $200 and can do alot of what the Video iPod should be able to already.

[tyzilla]

I want my [merom] MBP!!

[HecubusPro]

* New iPod Announcement (Widescreen, Bluetooth, and featuring virtual touchweel. Does not include Wi-Fi, or any other protocols)

So this guy really was just talking out of his butt. Oh well, rumors sites. :)

[HecubusPro]

Given that Apple hasn't yet released a consumer machine that has the capacity to download and keep more than a handful of HD movies (on top of photos and music), then I really doubt there'll be any HD movies available for download.

I'm quite happy with standard DVD quality anyway.

Glad you're happy. Really, I am.

Also glad to know that Apple is releasing a consumer machine (temporarily called iTV) that will allow downloads of HD movies. The device will ship Q1 2007 and cost $299.;)

[milo]

Hoax, and a lame one.

That's what you get for believing rumors from crappy sites with no sources.

[BRLawyer]

Isn't it funny to see such stupid rumors after the real event? iPod video with touchscreen and wireless who? TubePort who? 2-way USB "dongle"? Hahahahaha... :rolleyes: