Wow. Best 9/11 comment ever. By Jon Stewart, no less.

[Thomas Veil]

In the "Worst 9/11" thread, zimv20 has a link to Crooks and Liars.

Well, if you scroll down just a bit, you'll find they've re-posted a clip from The Daily Show.

It is the very first segment that Jon Stewart did following the tragedy of 9/11. Jon is eloquent, inspiring, and not afraid to show his emotions on TV. It is moving and it is wonderful. To bare his soul like that in front of his audience, both in the studio and at home, is just one more reason for me to admire the hell out of that guy.

God, we need people of Jon Stewart's calibre running this country, instead of the chimp.

Go watch it and see for yourself. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/11/a-look-back-the-daily-show/)

[iGary]

I loves me some Jon Stewart.

Slightly off topic, but concerning the chimp, all I heard last night during his speech was:

*wah wa wah woink woi wah wa wer whe*

[Thomas Veil]

I loves me some Jon Stewart.

Slightly off topic, but concerning the chimp, all I heard last night during his speech was:

*wah wa wah woink woi wah wa wer whe*I read his speech online.

Basically it was, "I know we disagree about a lot of things, but for the sake of fighting the terrorists, let's do it my way, okay?"

Does anybody "get it" less than Bush??

[yg17]

I read his speech online.

Basically it was, "I know we disagree about a lot of things, but for the sake of fighting the terrorists, let's do it my way, okay?"

Does anybody "get it" less than Bush??


What a dumbass.....

[beatsme]

What a dumbass.....

I know we're mostly a liberal-leaning crowd on here, but does anyone else think that Clinton's transgressions pale in comparison to the national and international embarassment that is George W. Bush?

I'm expecting a resounding "yes" on that one...

In a way, you almost had to see it coming. If the Clinton impeachment showed us anything, it's that the Republican party has absolutely no shame and also no clue as to what the real issues in this country really are.

[Queso]

I know we're mostly a liberal-leaning crowd on here, but does anyone else think that Clinton's transgressions pale in comparison to the national and international embarassment that is George W. Bush?
Nah. You see Bush lies to everyone, whereas Clinton specifically lied to Congress. As Congress is special, singling them out when you're lying is a far worse crime.

Besides, Clinton stained that nice woman's dress, and you wouldn't catch Mr. Bush doing that. He wouldn't have time for a start, seeing how much he spends making the world a safer place for us all.

[scem0]

Wow. This brought me to tears. A beautiful commentary. Jon Stewart is someone that I have a wealth of respect for, I think he's an amazing man.

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[yg17]

I know we're mostly a liberal-leaning crowd on here, but does anyone else think that Clinton's transgressions pale in comparison to the national and international embarassment that is George W. Bush?

I'm expecting a resounding "yes" on that one...

In a way, you almost had to see it coming. If the Clinton impeachment showed us anything, it's that the Republican party has absolutely no shame and also no clue as to what the real issues in this country really are.


Yes, of course what Clinton did is absolutely nothing compared to what Bush has done. I think it's sad that our country is more concerned about a president who lied over getting a blow job than they are over a president who has lied about the reasons for a war, the conditions in Iraq, the economy at home, etc. Bush has lied about everything but a blow job. Now I say we hire a hooker to go suck him off and see if we can finally get him impeached.

[mkrishnan]

This was nice...good tears. Thank you.

[viccles]

Great and here I am a republican *leaves* well its actually liberal in Australia

[Thomas Veil]

Some of the comments below the video are pretty good, too. One of two of them even mention Olbermann. (Apparently we're not the only place that appreciated both videos.)

Among the comments:

Stewart was right: The a******* can't beat democracy, because in the end, they can offer people nothing so satisfying as freedom.

All the more reason to resist BushCo's attempts to take away our freedoms. We cannot allow neocon fascists to succeed where al Qaida has failed.
jimbo92107 | 09.12.06 - 3:43 am |Wow, that was gutwrenching. I had never seen it. (That was before C&L and YouTube!!) Watching that back to back with Olbermann's editorial was an intense experience.

It seems so long ago. That time when 9/11 belonged to all of us. At this point 9/11 feels like b******* spin. I remember when it was something I felt devastated by. I remember thinking "maybe it's a good thing Bush is president. He'll probably over-react, but then I can hardly see how that's possible." Little did I know...

9/11 began a spiral of events which would lead to my 'politicization.' Before then I wouldn't have even identified myself as Democrat. Now it's part of my core identity, my DNA.

We've all gone down such a tragic, sad, dark road. This country has gone insane, hopefully it's only temporary but it hasn't abated yet. I can't believe I'm living in these times. It's very scary to see your country veer so far off track so quickly. But we must continue the fight. As I think about all this I have to hope that 2006 will finally be the year America says "enough." Perhaps we can start a healing process then. Because, I haven't healed at all.
Lee | 09.12.06 - 3:44 am |A shame....the whole country felt like this; the whole world....those at the top had an opportunity to do something positive....they had an obligation to do something positive...instead, they squandered it all in favor of their own ambitions....what did we get in return....

"No one could have anticipated people flying planes into a building"

"No one could have anticipated the breaching of the levees"

"No one could have anticipated this level of insurgency"

These, of course, are all lies....

F Chucklenutz | 09.12.06 - 3:46 am |That last one really got me, because the writer has obviously put it all together. "No one could have anticipated..." will forever be the excuse and the epitaph of this administration. :mad:

[atszyman]

Nah. You see Bush lies to everyone, whereas Clinton specifically lied to Congress. As Congress is special, singling them out when you're lying is a far worse crime.

That should have been really made apparent when Congress won't do anything about wire tapping but goes almost unanimously against the president when William Jefferson's office was searched...

link (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/22/jefferson/index.html)

Go ahead and do warrantless searches on whomever you want, as long as you stay out of our offices... even if you have a warrant.

[KingYaba]

Yes, of course what Clinton did is absolutely nothing compared to what Bush has done.
Some would argue that inaction is the problem. IE Bin Laden

Yes, of course what Clinton did is absolutely nothing compared to what Bush has done. I think it's sad that our country is more concerned about a president who lied over getting a blow job than they are over a president who has lied about the reasons for a war
Very sad indeed.
the economy at home
The economy is doing quite well.
Now I say we hire a hooker to go suck him off and see if we can finally get him impeached.
Prepare to spend a lot of money on that one. :rolleyes:

[thedude110]

Full text of the Olbermann piece here:

Link. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060912/cm_thenation/15120539;_ylt=AjrwG4MBgRnvK6OHw6pL16MDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhZDhxNDFzBHNlYwNtZW5ld3M-)

[KingYaba]

Keith Olbermann is without a doubt the best news anchor on television today.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that. :rolleyes:

[Thomas Veil]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that. :rolleyes:I probably would. Watching his piece the other day, I thought, this guy has a forcefulness and an integrity that reminds me of Edward R. Murrow.

As for the economy doing well -- I don't want to go too far o.t., but that's highly debatable.

[Glen Quagmire]

The economy is doing quite well.


The strength of the economy in the US has been built on the back of freely available credit and an unprecedented rise in the value of real estate. If bubble bursts - and there are signs that the market is losing/has lost momentum what then?

Clinton's troubles were between him and his wife. He lied about an affair. He was sleazy and he shouldn't have done it.

Bush lied about Iraq and treats civil rights with contempt. A far greater crime.

[Thomas Veil]

The strength of the economy in the US has been built on the back of freely available credit and an unprecedented rise in the value of real estate. If bubble bursts - and there are signs that the market is losing/has lost momentum what then?Not the mention the emergence of the super-rich, the ongoing weakening of the middle class, the budget deficit, the trade deficit, the unemployed that the government deliberately doesn't count, and the actual drop in real wages over the last couple of decades, among other things.

[yg17]

The economy is doing quite well.


Try saying that to the millions who are unemployed.


The economy is great if you have a high paying job, but it's in the crapper if you're an average, middle class, working American.

[mactastic]

The economy is doing quite well.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that. :rolleyes:

[KingYaba]

Clever mactastic. ;) Yes I'll agree that our economy is very uncertain twenty years from now. One of these days this huge deficit is going to bite the US in the ass. This is one of the HUGE problems I have with Pres. Bush. Spending more than his Democratic counterpart Mr. Willy. Shocking, I know. Who would have thought a "conservative" would spend more than a Democrat. :eek:

But Bush aint a conservative. He's a big-government Republican. :mad:

[mactastic]

I'm actually talking about the here and now. Average wages are rising, but if you know anything about averages, you know that a giant increase on the top end can offset mediocre gains, or even losses, among the bulk of the populace and still make it sound like "the average American" is doing well. The distribution curve of that average is what politicians won't talk about.

Most Americans are losing ground wage-wise versus health care costs and inflation.

[Thomas Veil]

I'm actually talking about the here and now. Average wages are rising, but if you know anything about averages, you know that a giant increase on the top end can offset mediocre gains, or even losses, among the bulk of the populace and still make it sound like "the average American" is doing well. The distribution curve of that average is what politicians won't talk about.Best way I've heard this put is:

Bill Gates makes a million dollars. You make nothing. So on average, you and Bill Gates make half a million dollars each. :rolleyes:

[stillwater]

Thanks Thomas Veil for posting the link to that video. I had forgotten what it felt like right after 9/11 when the whole country was united in their grief and their determination to show the world that America was strong enough to withstand and recover from such a brutal attack.

It makes me that much angrier now, to think about how Bushco has squandered all the good will and support the U.S. got from the rest of the world, by waging this misbegotten war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

The rest of the world now sees the U.S. as a greater threat to their safety and security than Islamic fundamentalists.

[coffey7]

Try saying that to the millions who are unemployed.


The economy is great if you have a high paying job, but it's in the crapper if you're an average, middle class, working American.

Millions were unemployed when Clinton was pres. And when bill was pres new orleans did have poor black people.

[yg17]

Millions were unemployed when Clinton was pres. And when bill was pres new orleans did have poor black people.


http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/EM616/images/figure3.gif

I think that graph speaks for itself

[Xander562]

wow, that really was a great commentary..... best one i've heard.

[zap2]

I think that graph speaks for itself


Doubt he'll post again here..he seems to make a comment and then either stop posting in that thread, or never read a thread more then once

[KingYaba]

If we are judging how well the economy is based on unemployment, it looks like brighter days are ahead. :)