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decksnap
Sep 13, 2006, 08:34 AM
I was called a whiner for saying this in the iTunes 7 thread, so I thought I'd start a new thread for those of us who hate the new design to commiserate. And perhaps to hear how some actual designers feel about it.

Does anybody else HATE the new scrollbars and buttons? I feel like I am running some OS 9/ Windows cross-breed, and am regretting upgrading, features be damned.



spicyapple
Sep 13, 2006, 08:45 AM
The interface on the whole is a bit too dark and drab. I prefer the lighter UNO color scheme and aqua buttons.

shadowmoses
Sep 13, 2006, 08:54 AM
I agree its not the best looking the scroll bars make it look very unpolished, I am surprised apple would release it looking like this lets hope they listen and make it look a bit nicer in 7.0.1,

SHadoW

iGav
Sep 13, 2006, 09:14 AM
I'm kind of impartial, though I think I like it.

Funnily, off the top of my memory, isn't its look and feel now somewhat similar to Sony's Connect music software?

kretzy
Sep 13, 2006, 09:18 AM
I like some aspects of the new design - the colour palette and scroll bars. But I really don't like the look of the music note icon in blue, and it seems that the actual shape of it is slightly different. I also think the sidebar has too much empty space.

iGav
Sep 13, 2006, 09:28 AM
But I really don't like the look of the music note icon in blue, and it seems that the actual shape of it is slightly different.

I like it, but then I hate green... :p I bet they'll use purple again in the future at some point, and then it'll be back to green again.

Lau
Sep 13, 2006, 09:51 AM
I definitely like the scroll bars' new look, but why are they drab awful blue (even in the graphite theme)? If it was uno-ified, and the scroll bars were still smooth but a much lighter grey (and not effing blue) it would be a lot nicer. Having said that, I wish OSX's graphite theme changed more than just the apple logo and a few other bits. If the colour's going to be nasty blue I'd rather not have any, thanks. :p

I like the new side menu and playlists menu look, there's a lot more space around them but why the capitals for the titles? The play buttons at the top look a lot better and smoother, and I like the view buttons, but the ones at the bottom look really cramped, they need more space above and below.

Overall, there's some nice bits, but it seems a bit unfinished looking in places. Hopefully it'll mature over future editions.

Edit: Here's a lighter UNO type version, with red highlights. I loves me some red. :) :

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7315/itunesredys2.png (http://imageshack.us)

decksnap
Sep 13, 2006, 11:00 AM
Is that a mockup or did you actually edit the source? I'm looking at definitely replacing the new play buttons with the old ones, and I would love to remove the craptastic blue from the godawful scrollbars.

decksnap
Sep 13, 2006, 11:02 AM
One thought that occured to me, and that worries me, is that they are making these changes simply to make it easier to transition to an all-vector interface for the res-independant GUI. If that is the case, I don't like the trade-off.

Chaszmyr
Sep 13, 2006, 11:06 AM
I like it... It's not perfect, and it may not even be an improvement, but it's nice.

whooleytoo
Sep 13, 2006, 11:16 AM
It's the inconsistencies that bug me. The itunes window uses the new style popup menus, but the equalizer uses the old style aqua control.

The source list uses black for the selection, instead of what the user has selected in the Appearance control panel, but the song list does use the correct colour.

Lau
Sep 13, 2006, 11:17 AM
Is that a mockup or did you actually edit the source? I'm looking at definitely replacing the new play buttons with the old ones, and I would love to remove the craptastic blue from the godawful scrollbars.

Just a mockup. I'd love to have it (and the rest of OSX) looking like that, so if anyone knows how to do it, I'd be very grateful. :D

baleensavage
Sep 13, 2006, 11:21 AM
I think, unfortunately, with iTunes and the iPod, Apple has made it clear that Windows comes first or at least takes high priority. The whole feel of the new iTunes strikes me as very Vista and less OS X. I doubt that this was an accident much like switching to USB2 over Firewire was a slap in the face to Mac users.

With that said, I actually like most of the new look. The buttons are nice. They looked too flat in the old iTunes. The scroll bar though is not their best design.

Chaszmyr
Sep 13, 2006, 11:45 AM
I think, unfortunately, with iTunes and the iPod, Apple has made it clear that Windows comes first or at least takes high priority. The whole feel of the new iTunes strikes me as very Vista and less OS X.

It struck me as being more influenced by the Motion GUI (albeit less shiny) than by Vista...

Gee
Sep 13, 2006, 11:55 AM
The source list uses black for the selection, instead of what the user has selected in the Appearance control panel, but the song list does use the correct colour.

i'm really not a big fan of the black highlight. Nasty nasty.

Josh
Sep 13, 2006, 12:00 PM
Consider me a fan.

Aqua, and its distracting shine and over-saturated colors has got to go.

But, in all fairness, I think the colors are a little too non-neutral. iTunes 7 has a very "rainy day" look to it.

I'd like it more if it were grays and subtle blue's as highlights, not dark grey and overcast blue everywhere :(

bousozoku
Sep 13, 2006, 12:31 PM
They embraced the Unified look-and-feel with version 6 and now, it's all gone.

It's as if the team just can't leave it alone. I suppose the metal looks more like the exterior of the new shuffle and nano models just released. I hope that this isn't a sign of the changes they've made to Leopard.

decksnap
Sep 13, 2006, 12:47 PM
Does anybody know where in the system I can dig up the old .pngs for the play/ff/ buttons of iTunes 6? They didn't seem to be inside the iTunes 6 pacakge contents. I guess this is because they are shared with Quicktime and such.

jamdr
Sep 13, 2006, 12:52 PM
Does anybody know where in the system I can dig up the old .pngs for the play/ff/ buttons of iTunes 6? They didn't seem to be inside the iTunes 6 pacakge contents. I guess this is because they are shared with Quicktime and such.
No, they're not shared with Quicktime, I believe they are in the file "iTunes.rsrc" inside iTunes' resource folder. I don't know why a bunch of iTunes' resources are stored in this file--I thought this kind of thing went out of style with OS 9.

You can still get to them but you have to use a resource editor. I'm not really sure what's out there, maybe someone else can help with that.

xli_ne
Sep 13, 2006, 01:47 PM
I'm more pissed off at Cover Flow. It works extremely poor on my pc, its slow and not smooth at all.


I dont know if its 'cause its a PC (its a fast machine) or because I have around 100-150 albums.




i do like the look of itunes 7 though. :D

decksnap
Sep 13, 2006, 01:56 PM
I don't think it's the amount of albums. I have hundreds and it 'scrolls like butter' on my G5s.

bousozoku
Sep 13, 2006, 01:56 PM
I'm more pissed off at Cover Flow. It works extremely poor on my pc, its slow and not smooth at all.


I dont know if its 'cause its a PC (its a fast machine) or because I have around 100-150 albums.




i do like the look of itunes 7 though. :D

It's smooth for me on a 1.33 GHz PowerBook with only 768 MB and with 159 albums but most of the artwork isn't there. It probably will require more tuning of QuickTime to get it to work better on Windows. However, QuickTime never seems to work well on Windows. Then again, what does? I suppose the good thing is that RealPlayer looks bad everywhere. :D

MacNut
Sep 13, 2006, 02:27 PM
It would be cool if Apple would allow us to edit the colors.

HelixOmnimedia
Sep 13, 2006, 04:09 PM
It would be cool if Apple would allow us to edit the colors.

I second this idea, the colours are dull, but I do like the blue icon - which is unusual as green is my favourite colour.

Here's something i posted in the iPod/iTunes Discussion thread, its about the design.
I think i maybe nitpicking, but i think these would help:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=233533

Comments/Suggestions/Ideas are welcome

supremedesigner
Sep 13, 2006, 04:16 PM
Me like! This is much better interface than anything else. Trust me. I hope they will do the same for Leopard. Sorry fellas but this is gonna happen. :D

razzmatazz
Sep 13, 2006, 04:17 PM
I like the new look and the fact that it WORKS and doesn't crash every 5 seconds makes me even more happy. If you don't like the look then by all means get something else because there are other apps out there.

imac9556
Sep 13, 2006, 06:09 PM
It's smooth for me on a 1.33 GHz PowerBook with only 768 MB and with 159 albums but most of the artwork isn't there. It probably will require more tuning of QuickTime to get it to work better on Windows. However, QuickTime never seems to work well on Windows. Then again, what does? I suppose the good thing is that RealPlayer looks bad everywhere. :D



Yeah, the cover albums is smooth here on my iMac G4 1ghz 17in. Maybe because it supports Quartz Extreme? (However, it doesn't support Core Image)

angelneo
Sep 13, 2006, 09:21 PM
I'm more pissed off at Cover Flow. It works extremely poor on my pc, its slow and not smooth at all.


I dont know if its 'cause its a PC (its a fast machine) or because I have around 100-150 albums.




i do like the look of itunes 7 though. :D
It pretty smooth on my PC laptop, I have about 100 albums. Although, right now with the new control menu appearing in videos, it is causing some lag playing videos in windowed mode.

I like this look better, I also liked the fact that they is putting in more emphasis on video this time round.

radiantm3
Sep 13, 2006, 09:45 PM
I welcome the new look. I like the new scroll bars as well. I'm pretty much sick and tired of aqua.

evoluzione
Sep 13, 2006, 09:56 PM
i like it, for the most part...i don't particularly like the scrollbars like many others here, look kinda fuzzy on an lcd.

whilst i'm here, i have a question, why is my library showing this album in two seperate parts?? i've messed with the id tags etc and i cannot get it to go to one album...it's a little thing, but it's bugging the heck outta me :(

jaw04005
Sep 13, 2006, 11:04 PM
iTunes 7 reminds me of 10.4 mail, except with media. Heh. I love it.

Lixivial
Sep 13, 2006, 11:51 PM
Just a mockup. I'd love to have it (and the rest of OSX) looking like that, so if anyone knows how to do it, I'd be very grateful. :D

Of course it's possible. Grab yourself a copy of ThemePark (http://www.geekspiff.com/software/themepark/) and open iTunes.rsrc.

You're looking for resource 288 and 290 for selection color, resource 304 for column headings, resources 1025 thru 1131 for the gradients and all of the PNGf fork for the scroll bars. UNO uses this method, as opposed to ShapeShifter's haxie method, to provide skinning abilities. I can do a quick proof-of-concept, if you're truly interested. Interestingly, they did leave the aqua widgets in there. The high-res shots of all the iPod models are quite nice, too.

Does anybody know where in the system I can dig up the old .pngs for the play/ff/ buttons of iTunes 6? They didn't seem to be inside the iTunes 6 pacakge contents. I guess this is because they are shared with Quicktime and such.

What, you mean these attached to this post? :) As another poster said, they're stored in iTunes.rsrc and you'll need a program similar to the aforementioned ThemePark to extract and replace them. Just for the hay of it, I added them to show how they look. I didn't copy all the items back in, but you get the general idea. (they upped the header control by 1 pixel, so the aqua ones have to be modified. Haha.)

EDIT: I was rather bored I guess, and I did everything but the checkboxes and sliders. If you want the replacement .rsrc file, I can upload it. This will be broken with any and every iTunes update, though (Which simply involves recopying the modified .rsrc file into iTunes.app). There's not a lot you can do about the bottom buttons, unless you were to make your own metallic ones.

BrianSalts
Sep 14, 2006, 12:42 AM
It looks depressing. Really.

slh06
Sep 14, 2006, 07:45 AM
The only thing I don't like about iTunes 7 is the icon. It should have been orange. Ever new version should have a differnt color icon. But I love everthing else!:D

spicyapple
Sep 14, 2006, 07:49 AM
The new icon is growing on me. I'm starting to like it already! :)

decksnap
Sep 14, 2006, 07:51 AM
Of course it's possible. Grab yourself a copy of ThemePark (http://www.geekspiff.com/software/themepark/) and open iTunes.rsrc.

You're looking for resource 288 and 290 for selection color, resource 304 for column headings, resources 1025 thru 1131 for the gradients and all of the PNGf fork for the scroll bars. UNO uses this method, as opposed to ShapeShifter's haxie method, to provide skinning abilities. I can do a quick proof-of-concept, if you're truly interested. Interestingly, they did leave the aqua widgets in there. The high-res shots of all the iPod models are quite nice, too.



What, you mean these attached to this post? :) As another poster said, they're stored in iTunes.rsrc and you'll need a program similar to the aforementioned ThemePark to extract and replace them. Just for the hay of it, I added them to show how they look. I didn't copy all the items back in, but you get the general idea. (they upped the header control by 1 pixel, so the aqua ones have to be modified. Haha.)

EDIT: I was rather bored I guess, and I did everything but the checkboxes and sliders. If you want the replacement .rsrc file, I can upload it. This will be broken with any and every iTunes update, though (Which simply involves recopying the modified .rsrc file into iTunes.app). There's not a lot you can do about the bottom buttons, unless you were to make your own metallic ones.

Hey you rock, man. Thanks.

So is it just the quality of your screengrab or are the aqua scrollers you put back in darker than normal ones?

PS> That looks SOOOOO much better than what they've foisted on us. Can't wait to fix mine when I get home from work.

decksnap
Sep 14, 2006, 08:07 AM
They should make a sticky with your resource file in it similar to the 'replace that hideous calculator widget' thread. :D

Lixivial
Sep 14, 2006, 08:56 AM
Hey you rock, man. Thanks.

So is it just the quality of your screengrab or are the aqua scrollers you put back in darker than normal ones?

PS> That looks SOOOOO much better than what they've foisted on us. Can't wait to fix mine when I get home from work.

No problem. :)

The color difference is likely due to my colorsync profile; the snapshot was taken on my LCD monitor. But I used all the standard Aqua resources from the system .rsrc files (Extras.rsrc and Extras2.rsrc) and the iTunes 6 .rsrc file. I will fix up those checkboxes and EQ sliders when I get home from work and then post instructions + the .rsrc file for you. I'll likely just attach it to this post or something, unless there are a lot more replies to the thread, to bar any further bumping of the thread. :)

QuarterSwede
Sep 14, 2006, 03:20 PM
Thank you so much! Now that looks good. Hear that Apple!?

me hate windows
Sep 14, 2006, 04:17 PM
I can't stand the look of iTunes 7. I hate it so much, I uninstalled 7 from my PC and put 6 back on, and never installed 7 on my Mac.

My main gripes with the design are the dull theme in general, the ugly grey buttons, the moving of the browse button to the bottom, the removal of the eq button and it's keyboard shortcut, the textual burn cd button, the ugly grey scroll bars, the ugly source menu on the left with all it's wasted space, the crappy album art importer(iTunes art importer for the PC works many times better), the sluggishness of it on a system with 2 gigs of ram and a graphics card better than the ones in the Mac Pro, and probably some other stuff I have forgot.

Yes I know, that was a crappy run-on sentence.

The only thing good about iTunes 7 was the gapless playback, but that wasn't even worth it.

Edit: And iTunes 7 decided to try and automatically sync my whole library to my iPod without asking me. Man that pissed me off. /rant

Lau
Sep 14, 2006, 04:26 PM
Of course it's possible. Grab yourself a copy of ThemePark (http://www.geekspiff.com/software/themepark/) and open iTunes.rsrc.

You're looking for resource 288 and 290 for selection color, resource 304 for column headings, resources 1025 thru 1131 for the gradients and all of the PNGf fork for the scroll bars. UNO uses this method, as opposed to ShapeShifter's haxie method, to provide skinning abilities. I can do a quick proof-of-concept, if you're truly interested. Interestingly, they did leave the aqua widgets in there. The high-res shots of all the iPod models are quite nice, too.

Thanks very much. i shall get a-editing. :)

Lixivial
Sep 14, 2006, 05:30 PM
No problem, Lau. I think you'll find that it's actually a really fun and easy process once you dive in.

EDIT: Finished as much as I'm going to do with this; I completed it to my satisfaction, but if anyone else has anything else I will be glad to do what I can. Also, there is no Graphite version of this, though I will probably do one for myself soon.

List of changes are as follows:
- Source list color is same as Mail.app, iPhoto
- Source list selection gradient is same as Mail.app
- Column headers are reverted back to Aqua
- Browse headers are converted to Aqua (though they've always been metal)
- Volume knob reverted back to blue when clicked
- iTunes Store trailcrumbs are reverted back to Aqua
- Sliders, Scrollbars are reverted back to Aqua (The scrollbar bug (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2839049&postcount=44) still exists, and there's not a lot I can do about that. It has to be set somewhere other than the .rsrc file.)
- View button is now Aqua, to unify the header.

To install:

1. Close iTunes.
2. Go to /Applications and right click on iTunes.app and left-click on "Show Package Contents"
3. Open Contents, then open Resources
4. Locate the iTunes.rsrc file and right-click on it, and then select "Duplicate" -- this will create a backup of your current iTunes.rsrc file should anything go wrong.
5. Download the new iTunes.rsrc file from here (http://whitem.ath.cx/tmp/iTunes.rsrc.zip) (~2.2 megabytes). Extract and copy the new iTunes.rsrc file to /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources (where your old iTunes.rsrc file was).
6. Open iTunes.

To uninstall:

1. Rename iTunes.rsrc to iTunes.old and move your backed up iTunes.rsrc file back in.
2. Open iTunes.

NOTE: Since this is stored in iTunes.app, it will be broken by any updates of iTunes. Just follow the same process to reapply.

Attached are images of the final version. If you're interested in doing some of this yourself, you can download the tiff versions of the custom made icons I had to make (and some of the iTunes 6 buttons) here (http://whitem.ath.cx/tmp/icons.zip) (~270 kilobytes). That's only a segment of them because I only started to become more organized about this near the end; the rest you'll need to pull out of the rsrc file.

decksnap
Sep 14, 2006, 05:51 PM
THAT'S AWESOME. Thanks! I was just mucking around in resknife and I couldn't figure out the scrollbar part.

What's weird is your scrollbars ARE darker than normal. Are you running Tiger? Take a look at a screengrab below of yours vs. the normal ones. It kinda throws the whole thing off.

So - the two obvious things that are missing from your tweaked resource-

- The headers for the browse panes are still metal and not aqua
- The background color of left pane isn't yet the blue of mail, iPhoto, etc.

decksnap
Sep 14, 2006, 05:54 PM
And if I'm just going to point things out for the benefit of us all (sorry, I do appreciate the work) there's something funky going on with the background of the aqua scrollers. You have to look closely at a smaller sized one to notice. It's like the stripes are scaled down with the size of the bar.

Lixivial
Sep 14, 2006, 06:26 PM
You're right, decksnap. I'm going to have to find out why my scrollbars are darker; I'm running Tiger on a MacBook and iMac G3. I'll try it on my iMac G3. If all else fails, I will just use your screenshotted scroll bars as reference, as the rest of my system matches those darker blue scroll knobs.

The other bugs are probably due to my 2 am photoshopping -- iTunes 6 used standard controls, with 7 they've chopped them apart into segments that aren't necessarily logical. But I will resolve them tonight. Thanks for the bug reports. Never thought to check the Browse function and didn't even think to modify it to look like Mail. :)

decksnap
Sep 14, 2006, 06:50 PM
Well don't put yourself through all that work on my account. Looking at it now, it's going to be a real hack job to get the scrollbars right anyway, because nothing is the same size.

I was happy enough when I changed the source panel background to match the other apps. It takes some of the dinge off.

Lixivial
Sep 14, 2006, 10:21 PM
Well don't put yourself through all that work on my account. Looking at it now, it's going to be a real hack job to get the scrollbars right anyway, because nothing is the same size.

Yeah, the problem with the scrollbars isn't the caps like I initially thought, it's the fact that somewhere outside of the resource file, the size for the middle part is hardset at about 6 or so pixels, with each endcap being about 13px each. So, when I use the standard sized OS X endcaps, it puts gaps between the middle and the endcap, but if I extend the endcap to accommodate for those size differences, it's static and so it doesn't "move" when scrolled.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2324/picture9ih9.png

This is why it's looking crunched down and the stripes aren't showing up too well. If you'll notice, by default, iTunes 7's smallest scrollbar size is larger than any other standard OS X application. Apple did a strange number here, I guess. I didn't notice any particular mask in the resource file that would accommodate for this, so... I can only guess it's set somewhere else. There's no real way around this, I don't think, except to set the end caps at 13px each and living with the small moving scrollbar area.

Anyroad, I'm still uncertain as to why the color difference is there -- the color is uniform on my MacBook and iMac G3, so I'm not sure. Otherwise I've updated nearly everything else that you suggested, the source list is now reflective of Mail, including selection gradients.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2043/picture11am4.png

And, like I said, I will be adding in an Aqua view button and metal bottom buttons for my own sake. :) I will be updating that hosted rsrc file for anyone interested in the future.

brepublican
Sep 14, 2006, 11:09 PM
EDIT: I was rather bored I guess, and I did everything but the checkboxes and sliders. If you want the replacement .rsrc file, I can upload it. This will be broken with any and every iTunes update, though (Which simply involves recopying the modified .rsrc file into iTunes.app). There's not a lot you can do about the bottom buttons, unless you were to make your own metallic ones.
Wow. You. Are. A. Genius.

:D

mrblah
Sep 14, 2006, 11:24 PM
It looks like part of the program was made by Apple and the other part was made by Linux's bonehead design team. The very first thing I noticed after installing was the new scroll bars, they are just a shocker. Then it took me awhile to realize they replaced the aqua buttons with the same crappy gray look.

If it wasnt for the new browsing and ipod features then I would have uninstalled this ugly thing.

freebooter
Sep 15, 2006, 12:39 AM
Some people are never happy. Fine, whatever cranks their turkey, as it were.

But....Life is such.

GeorgeTheMonkey
Sep 15, 2006, 01:12 AM
Oi, thank the Maker! My eyes were killing me!

I lived with it because I needed my fix of Five Iron Frenzy and Polaris (it's all pipe!), but thanks to Lixivial, I may now resume my regularly scheduled iTunes experience. Thank you. :D

Now if only we could undo Apple's horrible redesign of some of the Store elements, sprucify the web pagey-looking iPod loading screens, and kill the capitalization everywhere. Iiighlity. :rolleyes:

After G
Sep 15, 2006, 01:27 AM
i like it, for the most part...i don't particularly like the scrollbars like many others here, look kinda fuzzy on an lcd.

whilst i'm here, i have a question, why is my library showing this album in two seperate parts?? i've messed with the id tags etc and i cannot get it to go to one album...it's a little thing, but it's bugging the heck outta me :(Try the compilation checkbox. Select all the tracks, then Command-I. Look in the lower left-hand corner. Check it and pick Yes. This worked for me.

About fuzzy scrollbar ... i think it's a bug. It goes unfuzzy when I make it bigger. Picture of fuzzy scrollbar included for those not in the know. Click to see the horror.

57572

Erasmus
Sep 16, 2006, 02:42 AM
I must admit it's a bit dark. No doubt it'll grow on me. Maybe Apple will start putting pentagrams and bloody skulls on version 8? :D

Yep, definitely kinda dark. And a bit bland. The scroll bars need patterns, and we need that brushed aluminium look back. Don't mind the loss of the blue bubbly scroll bars, but they need to be replaced with something more interesting than the ones now.

Lixivial
Sep 16, 2006, 05:08 AM
Sorry to hijack this thread one last time, but I just wanted to notify those few interested that I finished my version of aquafied iTunes 7. Instead of writing up another long post, I simply modified this post here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2838934&postcount=42) (post #42 in this thread). All you have to do to update is redownload the file and recopy it in.

Perhaps a new thread was a better idea for that, but all the relevant information was already in this thread, so... :) For those that use it, I hope it works out for you. I ended up doing it because, while I initially loved the iTunes 7 interface, once I used it in OS X I wanted Aqua back. In Windows, I do love the new look, but not in OS X.

Thanks.

maxrobertson
Sep 16, 2006, 09:35 AM
By the way, I Don't know if anyone has posted this, but I just found a picture of a pre-release version of iTunes on Daring Fireball. It's so Windowsesque I cannot even comprehend how this got into a prerelease version! http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60984

wmmk
Sep 16, 2006, 12:46 PM
By the way, I Don't know if anyone has posted this, but I just found a picture of a pre-release version of iTunes on Daring Fireball. It's so Windowsesque I cannot even comprehend how this got into a prerelease version! http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60984
um, that's a link to an apple help document on neavigating to an Ipods about menu to find out what version of iPod firmware you have:confused:

Fukui
Sep 16, 2006, 01:08 PM
No problem, Lau. I think you'll find that it's actually a really fun and easy process once you dive in.

Thanks man, made my day.

decksnap
Sep 16, 2006, 01:18 PM
um, that's a link to an apple help document on neavigating to an Ipods about menu to find out what version of iPod firmware you have:confused:

Up until a few hours ago it showed a beta version of iTunes 7 that was very different. (the shot at the bottom) It has since been updated..

decksnap
Sep 16, 2006, 01:21 PM
Sorry to hijack this thread one last time, but I just wanted to notify those few interested that I finished my version of aquafied iTunes 7. Instead of writing up another long post, I simply modified this post here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2838934&postcount=42) (post #42 in this thread). All you have to do to update is redownload the file and recopy it in.

Perhaps a new thread was a better idea for that, but all the relevant information was already in this thread, so... :) For those that use it, I hope it works out for you. I ended up doing it because, while I initially loved the iTunes 7 interface, once I used it in OS X I wanted Aqua back. In Windows, I do love the new look, but not in OS X.

Thanks.

Thanks lixivial.

There is also at least one other version out there. This one on Macupdate has more accurately colored scrollbars, but seems to suffer from the same sizing glitches. I also don't like their buttons on the bottom. I think I'll have to use some sort of crossbreed.

AguaT (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22792)

maxrobertson
Sep 16, 2006, 03:02 PM
really? that's really weird, because it works surprisingly well and is very smooth on my PC, which has no dedicated video card and a 2 Ghz celeron. I was actually surprised that it worked at all.

I'm more pissed off at Cover Flow. It works extremely poor on my pc, its slow and not smooth at all.


I dont know if its 'cause its a PC (its a fast machine) or because I have around 100-150 albums.




i do like the look of itunes 7 though. :D

maxrobertson
Sep 16, 2006, 03:17 PM
yeah, here's the picture I was talking about (I saved it because I knew they would get rid of it eventually)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3964/609845kr6.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=609845kr6.jpg)

spicyapple
Sep 16, 2006, 03:21 PM
yeah, here's the picture I was talking about (I saved it because I knew they would get rid of it eventually)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3964/609845kr6.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=609845kr6.jpg)
Thanks. That version of iTunes looks so much nicer than the public release. Do you think Leopard will sport that look? I hope so! :)

joepunk
Sep 16, 2006, 03:37 PM
yeah, here's the picture I was talking about (I saved it because I knew they would get rid of it eventually)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3964/609845kr6.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=609845kr6.jpg)
That's very nice maxrobertson

Better looking then mine so far... I've got a way to go.

BollywooD
Sep 16, 2006, 05:25 PM
I hate the new look too, and used a freeware app called AguaT (http://www.thrica.com/software/aguat/) to change it back to a more eye pleasing Aqua. even the icon was replaced with the old green one - which i prefer!

I then used this (http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060913032817384#comments) tip from Macosxhints to remove the capitals from the sidebar.
:D

Project
Sep 16, 2006, 06:54 PM
I love the Play/Forward/Rewind buttons

penter
Sep 16, 2006, 07:31 PM
though i may have ambivalent feelings towards this update, in the end i still end up not liking it too much....