The what I did with my classic today thread™

[840quadra]

Not that Macrumors needs an other thread that gets updated daily or anything ;) , but I figured the classic forum needed something that could possibly spark conversation within this sub culture a bit more often. The purpose of this thread is simple. If you have a classic Macintosh (say G3 or older (please no debate about what actually is classic let's keep an open mind)) post in here what you did with it today, or recently.

Perhaps this thread can convince someone that their old Mac isn't trash, and give it some new life by giving it a new task in their house or office! Also, if you do something unique that you want to teach others how to do with their Classic, please share :)




Okay, I guess I will start..

Today decided I wanted to check out some of the internet radio stations broadcasting through iTunes radio. As opposed to just opening up iTunes on the G5, I booted up the 8500 and opened up iTunes 2. I ended up finding a couple new stations I like and am emailing the station names to my work email address so I can listen to them there.

I also started this thread with the 8500 while I am listening to one of the trance stations :) .

[macEfan]

I put a new screen on a PB 1400 and plan to put some of my music on it.

[5300cs]

How about last nite?

I went on the internet with my rev A iMac. I use it to peruse forums, play old games, and read the PDF manual for my new camera.

[Bobdude161]

Beige G3: Hooked up my N64 to the video personality card, then opened BTV and took some snapshots of San Fransisco Rush.

[840quadra]

How about last nite?

I went on the internet with my rev A iMac. I use it to peruse forums, play old games, and read the PDF manual for my new camera.

Last night works well.

To add to mine, I also copied some application files from my G3 (B&W) to the 8500, and started setting up Xpostfacto to play with OS-X on the 8500 on the other disk. I am going for 3 Operating systems on that box OS 8.5 , OS 9.1, and OS X, I doubt I will have luck, but who knows!

Beige G3: Hooked up my N64 to the video personality card, then opened BTV and took some snapshots of San Fransisco Rush.


Cool! can you attach some images in an other post, or your original!

[Bobdude161]

Cool! can you attach some images in an other post, or your original!

:D First pic is an old setup, but you get the gist. And second is supposed to be a screenshot but doing a whole screen shot seems to have a copyright effect. :confused: ah well. I use the Mac and N64 when others are using the TV for the PS2 or a movie. Good stuff.

And I've also captured an old video from a VCR with it. Here's a link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DWnqdKYG0). I captured it with the G3 and edited it with my Sawtooth. Notice the choppy frame rates! My G3 could barely keep up!!

[dpaanlka]

Do you know who I am?

There is never a time where at least one of my classic Macs (pre-G3) is not running.

[macg4]

i get online with my qudra 840av and LC475 all the time

[macg4]

I put a new screen on a PB 1400 and plan to put some of my music on it.
the one i gave ya? :)

[840quadra]

And second is supposed to be a screenshot but doing a whole screen shot seems to have a copyright effect. :confused: ah well. I use the Mac and N64 when others are using the TV for the PS2 or a movie. Good stuff.

Strange, my Apple Video Player lets me take pictures of what I am watching, it is built into the program. I guess I never attempted to do an entire screen shot like you did.

Must be some Lawyer involvement with that or something!

I used my Quadra 840av for Playing playstation for years, and I also watched DVD's through Apple Video player using my PS2 as the DVD video source.

I love the fact that the DSP on the Quadras would let video show through any window you had on top of it. I could be posting on Macrumors or any other site with the browser fully covering the video player window and it would turn the browser transparent so I could see the video while working on my browsing :) .

Do you know who I am?

There is never a time where at least one of my classic Macs (pre-G3) is not running.

Nope! Please introduce yourself :D .

Same here in some way. My 8500 is usually on 24/7 acting as a Streaming audio receiver for my house, All I have to do is turn on the speakers in whatever room I am using, or carry around my wireless setup.

The Quadra 840av hasn't been booted in over 6 months, a shame, but I think I have found a long term project for it to work on :)

[madmax_2069]

its the video overlay

i run my xbox threw my AIO, it has the onboard video with 6mb vram and a ATI Radeon 7000 ME and im useing extended desktop if i take a screenshot of the apple video player wile the AVP is on the internal video side i will get the green screen. but some how when its on the Radeon 7000 side and i take the screenshot of AVP it will show the video that is playing.

[disconap]

I remastered an old band recording on my G3 b/w (which may not really count, since it has a G4 chip in it).

Two interns used two imacs (one indigo-gen, one Rev-C) all day for database work and web surfing.

And modding project on former G3 ibook 75% complete. We had a very busy summer, so the project that was supposed to complete in June will likely finish in October...

[dpaanlka]

http://main.system7today.com/ is hosted entirely on a Power Mac 8100 running 7.6.1 and Comcast cable internet service. People sometimes ask if it's reliable...

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All of that downtime, of course, is from Comcast dropping out. :D

It's been getting about 5,000 page requests a week for the past few months. That doesn't include images, though. Pretty impressive for 7.6.1!

The forums are hosted on an entirely different server however.

[840quadra]

http://main.system7today.com/ is hosted entirely on a Power Mac 8100 running 7.6.1 and Comcast cable internet service. People sometimes ask if it's reliable...

58043

All of that downtime, of course, is from Comcast dropping out. :D

It's been getting about 5,000 page requests a week for the past few months. That doesn't include images, though. Pretty impressive for 7.6.1!

The forums are hosted on an entirely different server however.

Thats really cool to know :) .

What is the 8100 running for hardware?

I had a small site running on my Quadra 840av for about a year, lots of hits, but I took it down when my iP changed.

[dpaanlka]

What is the 8100 running for hardware?

It has a 10,000rpm, 10 GB hard drive, 256mb of RAM, and a 214mhz Newer G3 upgrade. Everything else, including the network interface, is stock.

It's an AppleShare IP 5.0.2 server.

[840quadra]

It has a 10,000rpm, 10 GB hard drive, 256mb of RAM, and a 214mhz Newer G3 upgrade. Everything else, including the network interface, is stock.

It's an AppleShare IP 5.0.2 server.

Good deal, sounds like a good system!

Speaking of System7today

Today I switched from using Internet Explorer 5 (still installed for backup) to iCab 2.9.9 on my PM 8500. While Internet explorer worked for the most part, it would get slower the longer I used it, It also loaded pages slowly when images were involved. iCab is working well, loads pages much faster, and works well with system memory. The only issue is how it loads pages from time to time.

I am fine with the pages loading strangely in most cases, and would gladly trade that for the much faster speed, and tabbed browsing.


I also intend to write an article on this system as opposed to using the G5 and my G4 both located here. One is creating backup disk images of my iPhoto and iTunes library, while the other is compressing video for my 5G ipod using iSquint.


Fun fun fun!

[dpaanlka]

I am fine with the pages loading strangely in most cases, and would gladly trade that for the much faster speed, and tabbed browsing.

For personal use, I've actually dumped IE 5 in favor of Netscape 4.8. With CSS turned off, Netscape is actually super reliable. Plus Netscape's built in email client works with my @system7today.com email address so that's an extra bonus.

I always use any of the System 7 browsers with CSS turned off. CSS slows everything down, and it doesn't even display correctly in those browsers, so basically you're choosing between a fast page displayed incorrectly, or a slow page displayed incorrectly.

I recently created a Browser page (http://main.system7today.com/browsercentral.html) with all four major System 7 browsers, as well as instructions on how to turn off CSS in all of them. Not sure if you caught that.

iCab usually ranks dead last in my personal preference list.

[5300cs]

iCab usually ranks dead last in my personal preference list.

I'm glad someone finally said it. I really wish I could use iCab, but I just can't. It's WAAAAY too slow. And it's a PAY browser, like this was 1996 still or something.

Cool browser page - and THANKS FOR PROVIDING LOCAL DOWNLOADS! I HATE going through the trouble of looking for a legacy browser and getting 404s

[dpaanlka]

I HATE going through the trouble of looking for a legacy browser and getting 404s

One of the very extremely frustrating and common situations that influenced me to create System 7 Today (http://www.system7today.com/). You'll find all my downloads are locally hosted. Not a single remote download on the entire site.

[840quadra]

Sorry my choice of browser chaps peoples hides :P ,

However I have an open mind and will try Netscape out again. I attempted to use opera, however it wasn't transfering typed information correctly or something. I couldn't log into Macrumors, or my own website. Both kept telling me I was not typing my password correctly.

Navigating to System7 now to download..

Thanks again!

[dpaanlka]

A lot comes down to are you actually trying to browse the web with CSS enabled on a very old Mac?

[840quadra]

A lot comes down to are you actually trying to browse the web with CSS enabled on a very old Mac?

CSS as in style sheets ? The answer to that is no. I am not new to using classic browsers, having style sheets disabled is the only way I can really use the web on my Quadra, and 575. I am just new to trying out anything besides IE and iCab on Classic computers.

I just got sick of IE slowing down the more I used it, or haulting the 8500, so I switched to iCab today hence my post. I do like Netscape on the 8500 better after testing it out (thanks for the download ). I gave it a try before switching over to the Quadra.

[dpaanlka]

Yes as in style sheets. I am pretty sure on classic PPC Macs Netscape 4.8 fit's most peoples needs nicely. I have no real ideas about 68k Mac browsing though. I usually only use 68k Macs for playing old games, word processing, or watching television if they are equipped with a TV Tuner (such as the Quadra 630).

I never actually asked, but are you running System 7 or something else on your 8500?

EDIT: I see you are a big fan of folding. It would be really nifty if there were some projects similar to that which could make use of all the old PowerPC Macs lying around in this world.

[840quadra]

I never actually asked, but are you running System 7 or something else on your 8500?

Not yet, I intend to add a 2nd SCSI drive (which I have some place in this house), then setup a version of system 7, along with 8.5, all while keeping 9.1 on the current drive.

My intents for this system are unknown. As with most of my classics, I want to be able to play with operating systems, while keeping it stable, and a viable work computer with any OS installed on it.



EDIT: I see you are a big fan of folding. It would be really nifty if there were some projects similar to that which could make use of all the old PowerPC Macs lying around in this world.

Indeed, however I may try (as a challange) to install Jaguar on the 8500, and have it do 1 work unit in Folding@home. It currently has a G3 400 upgrade card installed. I think that would be the only reason I would want X on it, otherwise it seems pointless.

[dpaanlka]

Not yet, I intend to add a 2nd SCSI drive (which I have some place in this house), then setup a version of system 7, along with 8.5, all while keeping 9.1 on the current drive.

That's cool. Remember, 7.6.1 may not be free, but it's so much better than 7.5.5.

You should shoot for 8.6 over 8.5.

[5300cs]

Sorry my choice of browser chaps peoples hides

Mine's not chapped ;)

Funny, CSS was meant to make websites cleaner (code and design) and faster to load :rolleyes:

[840quadra]

Thanks for the advice on software and browsers folks. I will use both to make my classic computing more enjoyable :).

I am now on the Performa 6320 working further on what I started last night with the Quadra, and 8500. I am archiving all of my classic software onto my B&W G3 (now a G4 500).

My intent is to move all software that is either network aware, or network ready to that box. I forgot that this era performa had the strange sounding boot chime, it's cool but scared the hell out of me because the volume ws set so high, and I was expecting either the Quadra, or newer powermac chime!

[dpaanlka]

I forgot that this era performa had the strange sounding boot chime, it's cool but scared the hell out of me because the volume ws set so high, and I was expecting either the Quadra, or newer powermac chime!

What, this?

http://www.tcp.com/~dschaub/Files/Startup/spwrcrd.aiff

[macEfan]

the one i gave ya? :)


I used the screen from yours and put in on a 1400cs I got from Im_to_hyper that had a cracked screen :) btw, macg4 you forgot to include the floppy drive:D

[840quadra]

Speaking of cracked screens, and notebook computers.

What's the oldest Powerbook (or other notebook) that one can buy, that supports 802.11, and can run System 7 or 8 and browse the internet without too much pain ?

I am looking to get an old PB to "show up" at a coffee shop, with a Retro mac, and actually have one that I do some work on. Also, I would like to finally have a classic notebook. I can't get myself to buy a Lombard or Pismo just yet, I want something older.

[dpaanlka]

What's the oldest Powerbook (or other notebook) that one can buy, that supports 802.11, and can run System 7 or 8 and browse the internet without too much pain ?

The PowerBook 520 with a PCMCIA cage will support 802.11b.

For painless browsing, you'd need a PowerPC.

[macEfan]

The PowerBook 520 with a PCMCIA cage will support 802.11b.

For painless browsing, you'd need a PowerPC.

yeah, but I wouldn't get a PB 5300c for internet.. although its a PowerPC, its slow due to the lack of l2 cashe...:D

so I guess a decent PB for internet would be a 1400c.. I used to have a 1400c with a 12gb hard drive, 48mb ram, and a wifi card that worked quite well:)

[fatmac]

I just fired up my 512k and Plus to be sure they were still working. They do. I just can't do anyting till I get the keyboard and mouse.:D

[Dane D.]

My 8500/120 in sig is used to capture my 8mm video. I am digitizing my video collection and it works fine, slow, but never crashes. I then send the clips to my B/W G3/300 to complete the process. Just wish I had a larger monitor for the 8500, using an old Performa 14" that is slowly dying, the screen real estate is shrinking and the color is washed out. I have another 8500/120 without any HDs in it, and not much RAM. Not sure what to use that one for, but will find some use for it.

[dpaanlka]

I have another 8500/120 without any HDs in it, and not much RAM. Not sure what to use that one for, but will find some use for it.

You could send it to me since I really am trying to find a nice condition 8500. In fact, you can keep your RAM and even the processor! :D

[BII]

I've been doing what I've been trying to do for days, get wireless drivers installed on a PB 1400. THe instructions are generally good, but no word on how to move them from an OSX, Linux, or Windows box onto the machine. (I tried burning them on a CD, no luck).

Last night I tried moving by making a "hybrid" and "HFS only" CD using MacImage/Nero, no luck (still getting "no chcksum error").

Oh well, I'll have to just keep hacking away at it.

[dpaanlka]

In OS X, use Disk Utility to create a small read/write disk image a big bigger than the size of the files you want to move. Then mount the image, and in Disk Utility erase it as a Macintosh OS Standard disk. Then put your files on it, and finally use Disk Utility to burn the image to CD.

No third-party software required.

Many PowerBook 1400s have trouble reading burned CDs though. Only the 12x drives work normally. But still try it anyway, sometimes the slower 6x or 8x drives in the 1400 will read burned CDs of certain build quality. It's a hit or miss.

[BII]

In OS X, use Disk Utility to create a small read/write disk image a big bigger than the size of the files you want to move. Then mount the image, and in Disk Utility erase it as a Macintosh OS Standard disk. Then put your files on it, and finally use Disk Utility to burn the image to CD.

No third-party software required.

Many PowerBook 1400s have trouble reading burned CDs though. Only the 12x drives work normally. But still try it anyway, sometimes the slower 6x or 8x drives in the 1400 will read burned CDs of certain build quality. It's a hit or miss.


Thanks. It reads CDs fine. Is there a way to do it on PC or Linux? I can do it on OSX if that's the only way, but I would have to borrow my sister's G4 powerbook, and she's never happy when I grab for my "crazy hacking" purposes.

[840quadra]

My 8500/120 in sig is used to capture my 8mm video. I am digitizing my video collection and it works fine, slow, but never crashes. I then send the clips to my B/W G3/300 to complete the process. Just wish I had a larger monitor for the 8500, using an old Performa 14" that is slowly dying, the screen real estate is shrinking and the color is washed out. I have another 8500/120 without any HDs in it, and not much RAM. Not sure what to use that one for, but will find some use for it.

What are you capturing the video to?

I have a VHS Setup connected to my 8500 (g3 400), but the internal Disks are too slow currently. I am debating about buying (or finding) an 18gb 50 pin SCSI drive to do it with, but I would much prefer to capture them over the network, or buy a PCI IDE setup for this computer.

Also what software are you using?

I have Strata Video shop, Fusion Recorder, and the built in Apple Video player.

Aren't these systems fun! :)

[Allotriophagy]

At work, I use a 233MHz beige G3 Power Mac. A glorious 96Mb of RAM. 1280x1024 screen resolution. I use a custom program for something or other and QuarkXPress. OS8.5.1

Today I tried to get MSN or Yahoo Messenger to install and run, but no joy. Looks like I would need to upgrade to 8.6 for MacMessenger to work properly and I expect there is a good reason why these machines do not already have that free upgrade installed...

I am writing this message on this machine right now, in IE5.1. Which isn't such a bad "classic" browser, really. I used iCab for a while, but it was terribly slow on some sites and crashed a lot.

Sometimes when I close my eyes, I can still hear the screams.

From where I sit, I can see a lot of G4 Power Macs - Quicksilvers and MDDs - running OS X, 10.2.8. I don't get to use those though, since I am just a glorified spell checker.

Sniffle.

Next week, I am going to bring in some cleaning solution and cotton buds. This keyboard is getting blitzed.

[Cassie]

useing my G3 Rev. A 233 MHz iMac tto post this right now (The reson I use my old 98 windows box over this one... well, it's faster, has more space, and more software availible. I use this one when I don't mind waiting 2 minutes for mac rumors to come up:D )

and I dug out the ol Mac Classic.. just to find that a floppy disk was jamed in it! turns out the disk had some tape in it, and I forgot to take the tape off before I put the floppy in... well, since I'm already talking about it, how exactly could I get the floppy out without damageing the drive? the tape is stuck to the little platform that holds the floppy. and the stuff must have melted or something, cuz its stuck like superglue..:mad:

[Dane D.]

What are you capturing the video to?

I have a VHS Setup connected to my 8500 (g3 400), but the internal Disks are too slow currently. I am debating about buying (or finding) an 18gb 50 pin SCSI drive to do it with, but I would much prefer to capture them over the network, or buy a PCI IDE setup for this computer.

Also what software are you using?

I have Strata Video shop, Fusion Recorder, and the built in Apple Video player.

Aren't these systems fun! :)
Using 2 external 2GB JAZ drives for capture. The internal HDs are too small (1GB and 517MB) for 5-7 min. clips. Using Avid VideoShop, also have Strata Videoshop and built-in Apple Video Player. I turn off AppleTalk for better performance (Avid recommends this). The slow part for me is transfer of files. I first put them on the internal HDs and then send them across the network to the G3. I can't copy directly from the JAZ drives, always errors out.

[840quadra]

Using 2 external 2GB JAZ drives for capture. The internal HDs are too small (1GB and 517MB) for 5-7 min. clips. Using Avid VideoShop, also have Strata Videoshop and built-in Apple Video Player. I turn off AppleTalk for better performance (Avid recommends this). The slow part for me is transfer of files. I first put them on the internal HDs and then send them across the network to the G3. I can't copy directly from the JAZ drives, always errors out.

Thanks for the info. Sounds like a good video machine. I really miss Video capability being inside their Power Macintosh computers!

I am guessing that I will need to go with the internal drive route because I want to transcode Taped TV shows, and actual VHS movies. The files get big fast, so I assume that I will need gigs of disk space.

useing my G3 Rev. A 233 MHz iMac tto post this right now (The reson I use my old 98 windows box over this one... well, it's faster, has more space, and more software availible. I use this one when I don't mind waiting 2 minutes for mac rumors to come up:D )


That's strange ?

When I fully switched over to Mac OS X for my primary computer, I was previously using a Pentium III 450 for my home computer (I also had 1.3 Ghz Dell from work). The computer that had me switch to OS X is still in use today. At the time it was a G3 350 with 256mb of RAM. I found a much easier time finding Valid, non spyware, non shareware, good programs for OS X, than I ever did for XP. Clock speed aside, the G3 running OS X was much faster than my 450 running 98 or XP at most anything I did.

</rant>

Speaking of my G3 tower,

Today I pulled the G4 500 ZIF Processor, and put in the G3 350 again to do some.. well.. :)

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It actually encodes these fairly fast. Not as fast as a G4, but I am one of those strange dudes that likes to do lots with very little :)

[Lixivial]

Today I transferred photos from my Quicktake 200 digital camera using OS 8.6, though I really would find it convenient using this on OS X; I'm going to try to get it running on XP at least. I also grabbed some much wanted time becoming reacquainted Mac OS X Server 1.0.2 (I believe that's Rhapsody 5.5, but I'd have to run uname -a again), and soon I hope to be grabbing some more time with A/UX.

I've neglected OS X Server and A/UX for a long time now, but I want to become reacquainted with them. I hope to converge all my serving duties to one machine or the other; barring that, at least, I want to converge them to OS X Server 1.0

[840quadra]

Today I transferred photos from my Quicktake 200 digital camera using OS 8.6, though I really would find it convenient using this on OS X; I'm going to try to get it running on XP at least. I also grabbed some much wanted time becoming reacquainted Mac OS X Server 1.0.2 (I believe that's Rhapsody 5.5, but I'd have to run uname -a again), and soon I hope to be grabbing some more time with A/UX.

I've neglected OS X Server and A/UX for a long time now, but I want to become reacquainted with them. I hope to converge all my serving duties to one machine or the other; barring that, at least, I want to converge them to OS X Server 1.0

Sounds like you and Macrumors user RacerX would get along quite well. He is the resident king of the classic Rhapsody, and first generation OS X Server software packages.

I am still hoping to get a version of this software for myself, and also play a bit!

[Cassie]

Thanks for the info. Sounds like a good video machine. I really miss Video capability being inside their Power Macintosh computers!

I am guessing that I will need to go with the internal drive route because I want to transcode Taped TV shows, and actual VHS movies. The files get big fast, so I assume that I will need gigs of disk space.



That's strange ?

When I fully switched over to Mac OS X for my primary computer, I was previously using a Pentium III 450 for my home computer (I also had 1.3 Ghz Dell from work). The computer that had me switch to OS X is still in use today. At the time it was a G3 350 with 256mb of RAM. I found a much easier time finding Valid, non spyware, non shareware, good programs for OS X, than I ever did for XP. Clock speed aside, the G3 running OS X was much faster than my 450 running 98 or XP at most anything I did.

</rant>

Speaking of my G3 tower,

Today I pulled the G4 500 ZIF Processor, and put in the G3 350 again to do some.. well.. :)

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It actually encodes these fairly fast. Not as fast as a G4, but I am one of those strange dudes that likes to do lots with very little :)



Well, I'm running OS 8.6 on it. I should've waited to buy it! grr... I payed $90 for it a year ago with only OS 8.5 installed no other software. Now on ebay i see "buy it nows" for imacs coming with keyboard, mouse and OS 9.1.. for $30!

Good news for some people: want to buy an iMac G3? Do it now.:D

[RacerX]

I also grabbed some much wanted time becoming reacquainted Mac OS X Server 1.0.2 (I believe that's Rhapsody 5.5, but I'd have to run uname -a again), and soon I hope to be grabbing some more time with A/UX.

I've neglected OS X Server and A/UX for a long time now, but I want to become reacquainted with them. I hope to converge all my serving duties to one machine or the other; barring that, at least, I want to converge them to OS X Server 1.0Yeah, 1.0.2 is Rhapsody 5.5. That is a great version... very stable and you can upgrade Blue Box to 8.6 (very helpful for running Carbon apps).

Currently I've been spending all of my Rhapsody time in 5.6... my ThinkPad has been running OPENSTEP 4.2 (rather than Rhapsody 5.1) since school started since I need some of those apps (like Geomview).

I've been thinking that I've been neglecting A/UX for a while, and the fact that I don't even talk about it on any of my sites has been a rather strange omission (well, not too strange... the Penelope A/UX site (http://www.aux-penelope.com/) is so complete that it would be hard to add anything useful).


I am still hoping to get a version of this software for myself, and also play a bit!The last copy I saw on ebay went for under $30 (winning bid plus shipping), so I'm hoping that the prices are going to stay down for a while. Of course as with everything on ebay, price is determined by supply and demand.

As for the topic of the thread... every Mac I own qualifies, so I'd be posting a report of my daily computing activities (which would get old pretty fast). :D

[Lixivial]

Sounds like you and Macrumors user RacerX would get along quite well. He is the resident king of the classic Rhapsody, and first generation OS X Server software packages.

Indeed! RacerX's extensive resource has provided me with much of my ability to get Rhapsody up and running on a tired and beaten ThinkPad 380ED. Though the built-in 760ED video drivers don't work, so I'm stuck at 2-bit B&W. I also grabbed many of my apps from his site & blackcube.org. Great resources.

Yeah, 1.0.2 is Rhapsody 5.5. That is a great version... very stable and you can upgrade Blue Box to 8.6 (very helpful for running Carbon apps).

Indeed, that's something I was prospecting and playing around with, but haven't dove fully into it yet. I haven't had Rhapsody for as long as I've had A/UX, so I'm still playing around with everything inside it. Something I found interesting is that my CDs are actually labeled like the ones you mention here. (http://www.rhapsodyos.org/system/rhapsody_media/images/rhap_ver_01_TIFF_Image_135.jpg)

I'm curious as to whether or not Rhapsody 5.5 would accommodate a G4 upgrade card, because according to one of your linked articles to StepWise, only Rhapsody 5.6 will accommodate the PMG4s. I'm not really a fan of CPU upgrade cards, but it's a curiosity I'd had.

I've been thinking that I've been neglecting A/UX for a while, and the fact that I don't even talk about it on any of my sites has been a rather strange omission (well, not too strange... the Penelope A/UX site is so complete that it would be hard to add anything useful).

The Penelope A/UX site is a great resource, too, and it's where I've pulled a lot of essential binaries, such as Apache. They also provide an extensive list of documentation, too.

As for the topic of the thread... every Mac I own qualifies, so I'd be posting a report of my daily computing activities (which would get old pretty fast).

I don't know, seeing that triple monitor setup running, what was it, System 7.5.5 or 7.6? Yeah that never gets tired on the eyes. I remember seeing a post of it, a long while back, in the "Post Your Mac Setup" thread, or somewhere similar. :D

[RacerX]

Indeed! RacerX's extensive resource has provided me with much of my ability to get Rhapsody up and running on a tired and beaten ThinkPad 380ED. Though the built-in 760ED video drivers don't work, so I'm stuck at 2-bit B&W. I also grabbed many of my apps from his site & blackcube.org. Great resources.I'm always glad to hear that my site has been of help to people. Some times I wonder if I'm the only one who visits it (part of the reason for putting it up was so I could refer back to things that I had forgotten).

Indeed, that's something I was prospecting and playing around with, but haven't dove fully into it yet. I haven't had Rhapsody for as long as I've had A/UX, so I'm still playing around with everything inside it. Something I found interesting is that my CDs are actually labeled like the ones you mention here. (http://www.rhapsodyos.org/system/rhapsody_media/images/rhap_ver_01_TIFF_Image_135.jpg)The large image is my CD, the smaller inset one was sent to me from a friend in Germany (though I wouldn't mind adding that one to my collection some day).

I'm curious as to whether or not Rhapsody 5.5 would accommodate a G4 upgrade card, because according to one of your linked articles to StepWise, only Rhapsody 5.6 will accommodate the PMG4s. I'm not really a fan of CPU upgrade cards, but it's a curiosity I'd had.No, the changes to the G4 processor (over the 604e that it was based on) were more extensive than the G3 was over the 603e... consequently, you can't even get it running partially (like you could with Rhapsody 5.1 on G3s before Apple issued a patch).

There is a Mac OS X Server 1.2 Upgrade CD out there that can upgrade a 5.3-5.5 installation to a 5.6 installation. Once upgraded it should handle (to the best of Rhapsody's abilities) a G4 upgrade.

I haven't had much luck with getting the best of performance out of upgrade cards with Rhapsody. I actually traded an 8500 with a G3/300 upgrade to a client for their 8600/300 because of how much faster Rhapsody ran on it.

I don't know, seeing that triple monitor setup running, what was it, System 7.5.5 or 7.6? Yeah that never gets tired on the eyes. I remember seeing a post of it, a long while back, in the "Post Your Mac Setup" thread, or somewhere similar. :DMy Quadra 950... yeah, that is a great system. I have 8.1 running on it, though the main thing I use it for these days is burning CDs (which doesn't use all the monitors) and playing old flight simulators (which does :D ).

It isn't too bad a system speed wise, but I did put an Apple 601 upgrade card in it which helps (as does the 136 MB of RAM).

Sadly everything is taking a back seat to school these days, so I haven't been playing on my systems as much as I normally would. I've been able to get a little something special out of each of them to help with work, but I don't need computers all that much for school.

[madmax_2069]

installed the 10.4.8 update on my Beige G3 AIO today. seems to be running faster and more responsive. it also seems to have fixed my problem i had with my Pioneer DVR-110D in tiger with it not working properly.

[FadeToBlack]

Man, this thread has me wanting to buy another classic Mac! The closest thing I've had to a classic Mac was my old PowerBook G3 "Lombard" 333. I sold it a while back, though. I'd really like to get an old desktop like a Quadra or a pre-G3 Power Mac, but I don't have the room for one. I think I may end up just buying another old PowerBook, since they don't take up much space. I'd like to get one that'll support wireless networking. I'd like to give System 7 a try. I've used OS 8.6 and 9, but I don't think I've tried 7.

What PowerBook do you guys recommend? I'd like one that's capable of running System 7, preferably PowerPC, and it must be capable of wireless networking. What wireless card do you recommend for an older PowerBook? I had a Sonnet Aria Extreme in my Lombard, but it wasn't compatible with anything below OS X, as far as I know.

[dpaanlka]

Every PowerPC PowerBook ever made is compatible with the Lucent WaveLAN / Proxim Orinoco 802.11b cards, which were 16-bit PCMCIA cards, and also happened to be what the original Airport was based on. You can find those all over the place for practically nothing.

The fastest PowerPC PowerBook that can run System 7 is the 3400c/240. The 1400 series can be upgraded with G3 processors (and G3 upgrades will still run fine under System 7) as can the 2400 PowerBooks.

Stay away from the 5300 and Duo 2300.

[FadeToBlack]

Every PowerPC PowerBook ever made is compatible with the Lucent WaveLAN / Proxim Orinoco 802.11b cards, which were 16-bit PCMCIA cards, and also happened to be what the original Airport was based on. You can find those all over the place for practically nothing.

The fastest PowerPC PowerBook that can run System 7 is the 3400c/240. The 1400 series can be upgraded with G3 processors (and G3 upgrades will still run fine under System 7) as can the 2400 PowerBooks.

Stay away from the 5300 and Duo 2300.

Awesome. Thanks for the reply! I will most likely be getting one of these older PowerBooks within a month or two. Like someone else mentioned, I think it would be cool carrying around a classic Mac and using wireless internet and everything with it. There's just something really appealing to me about that.

Oh yeah, one more question - How hard is it to get wireless working with one of these cards in System 7?

[Cassie]

Played an old game on my Macintosh Classic.

Found out the keyboard doesn't work anymore:(

[DickArmAndHarT]

I have a collection of macs, always on and used by various members of my house for various reasons.

imac- My mom has a Powerbook G4 for a laptop, but in her room she has a G3 bondi imac. She uses it to connect to our music server and use the internet and e-mail. (she keeps her powerbook off the internet the majority of the time to keep her self ontrack)

graphite clamshell- After my mbp was stolen and because im awaiting the announcement of new mbps this is my primary computer. Unlike my other laptops this 99' piece of machinery gets a distant wireless signal anywhere in my highschool, i havent been able to connect with before. Unfortunately the sound is broken, though both the speaker port, (i think a 20$ part fixes it) i use a imic when watching dvds or downloaded content.

power macintosh 6500-My home desktop, Used for playing in OS 9 and showing off the amazing internal speaker. I think the thing has a built in subwoofer its sickk.

powerbook g3 pismo-sisters laptop, has the occasional wireless card when she steals it from the clamshell, otherwise its her desktop.

I love my classic macs, and they're a blast to upgrade.

[dpaanlka]

I think the thing has a built in subwoofer

It does.

I think a fun project would be to try to upgrade this sub.

[Dane D.]

Have an opportunity to grab the following Macs:

1) IIcx, 14" monitor, keyboard and mouse
2) Macintosh II, keyboard and mouse
3) PPC 7100, keyboard and mouse
4) Beige G3, keyboard and mouse
5) unknown PC, unknown monitors (2), various boxes of old
networking technology and hardware
6) G3/600 iMac, White, CD-ROM, 192MB RAM

We closed an office down recently and found these units in the storage room collecting dust. I put into service at our home office:

1) 2 G3/500 imacs, DVD-ROM, 128MB RAM
2) G4/450, w/NEC 19" monitor, 80GB HD, 512MB RAM, DVD-ROM, Built-in
100MB ZIP
3) LaCie Firewire CD burner
4) 2004 DELL Dimension 4600, w/intergrated video, 80GB HD, 512MB RAM,
17" Flat screen, XP Pro
5) 100MB Ext USB ZIP

The hardest part about the whole process was the DELL, networking on a PC is not like an Mac. Had to call our 'PC guy' to set it up. Something about the firewall was blocking the network and got it on the network. The Macs our running various versions of OS 9, no X on any of them. But right now our company is so busy we can't make another trip for a couple of weeks. The old stuff is cool, brings back memories if you know what I mean.

[FadeToBlack]

I was looking around on eBay and came across this auction:

PowerBook Wallstreet Protoypes (http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Macintosh-PowerBook-Wallstreet-Prototype-Units_W0QQitemZ250033836813QQihZ015QQcategoryZ80075QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Just thought that this was really cool and figured I'd post it in here. I kinda doubt too many of these are still around.

[madmax_2069]

here is my friends 6500

http://chasergame.org/psilocybindreams.com//mymac/

a few weeks ago we put OS X 10.2.8 on it and seems to be running great minus the G3 500mhz cpu working cause of lack of drivers for the l2 cache card in OS X. it took a long time installing but it all panned out and OS X runs great besides the finder lagging some times. but it has yet to crash

the screen shot on that site above is OS 9.2.2 useing a theme that he custom made.

there is also a few more pic's of it here and what he has done with it

http://www.applefritter.com/node/18510

[aquajet]

I finally found a legit copy of BeOS 5 professional and if I can ever get my mother to ship my 9600/350 to me, like she said she would do months ago, I plan to install it. I love that operating system. I used to use 4.5 frequently with my Dell Inspiron years ago.

[Allotriophagy]

I finally found a legit copy of BeOS 5 professional and if I can ever get my mother to ship my 9600/350 to me, like she said she would do months ago, I plan to install it. I love that operating system. I used to use 4.5 frequently with my Dell Inspiron years ago.

Oh! Oh! Give!

[BII]

EDIT:


nevermind.

[johnathan1]

Hmm...I have had many Macs, but most of them are gone now...:(...I actually threw some of them away, and sold the rest for $20...

I currently have:

•PB G4 12', 1.3Ghz
•PB G3 Lombard
•PB 190cs (broken Power supply)
•PowerMac G3 (beige, used daily)
•Mac Classic II (In my closet, works well)
•PowerMac 6500 (In garage, works well)

Macs I have had:

•Newton 120
•LC 540
•PowerMac 6100
•Quadra 605
•Mac IIsi
•Mac IIci
•Mac IIfx
•Mac //gs
•Apple //e
•Mac Classic
•Apple //c+
•Strawberry iMac
•PowerMac 5100 (stupid ****ing grandma threw it away)

[jhu]

powermac g3 (blue and white). i don't use it for much besides browsing the internet since my athlon64 is much faster at everything else.

[dpaanlka]

my athlon64 is much faster at everything else

well obviously

[Cassie]

My old genaric Windows 98 finally gave out, so now I'm using my Rev. A bondi blue iMac and my laptop to do everything.(Mostly using iMac) Well actually, Mac Rumors is one of the few things it can do with only OS 8.6 and 32 megs of RAM...

[jhu]

i just picked up a power macintosh 6400/200. why? i don't know...

[dpaanlka]

i just picked up a power macintosh 6400/200. why? i don't know...

Those are fun!

[Cassie]

i just picked up a power macintosh 6400/200. why? i don't know...


Yes, Powermacs are nearly irresistable, aren't they? ;)

[Killyp]

i just picked up a power macintosh 6400/200. why? i don't know...


So you can play songs with bangin' bass and kill the hard-drive with the built in subwoofer in no time at all :p

[jhu]

Those are fun!

if by "fun", you mean "good for those who are masochistic" then yes they are!

Yes, Powermacs are nearly irresistable, aren't they? ;)

i suppose. it was $20 for the computer, 15" monitor, keyboard and mouse. who wouldn't say no? unfortunately, my attempts to put netbsd on this thing are thwarted by the fact that the on-board video does not work correctly with open firmware. grrrr...

so the question is: will the ati rage 128 video card from a blue and white g3 work in a powermac 6400? if so, then i can get a radeon 7000 for my blue and white and recycle the rage 128. if not, well, this computer goes back on craigslist

[jhu]

turns out it does work. now off to get a radeon for the other computer...

[dpaanlka]

turns out it does work. now off to get a radeon for the other computer...

For some real nostaglic fun you should set up a partition with 7.6.1 (http://www.system7today.com).

It will even work with your Rage 128 (http://main.system7today.com/articles/videocards.html), which you can use to play some of these games (http://main.system7today.com/gaming.html).

[jhu]

For some real nostaglic fun you should set up a partition with 7.6.1 (http://www.system7today.com).

It will even work with your Rage 128 (http://main.system7today.com/articles/videocards.html), which you can use to play some of these games (http://main.system7today.com/gaming.html).

for nostalgic fun, i almost got out my sledgehammer to smash this stupid computer to piece. apple sure knew how to make computer cases cramped and inaccessible back in the day. good thing case accessibility improved with their blue and white g3.

[jhu]

finally got netbsd (http://www.netbsd.org) installed! now i can finally get on with my life...

[dpaanlka]

good, glad you don't have to put your life on hold any longer

[840quadra]

Powered up my 8500, and now I am depressed that I have yet to buy any memory for this box!

I guess I will listen to Internet streaming audio with it, like I always do :( .

More memory = more useful as a classic application box, and to "play" with Xpostfacto.

[jhu]

i'm currently logged onto my performa 6400 and recompiling the kernel.

[macg4]

i'm currently logged onto my performa 6400 and recompiling the kernel.nice glad to see it in use

[jhu]

nice glad to see it in use

it sure is. and soon i will have cpu benchmarks showing that it's the slowest of all my computers (except for my router).

[macg4]

it sure is. and soon i will have cpu benchmarks showing that it's the slowest of all my computers (except for my router).nice cant wait :)

[Cassie]

Posting this from my iMac G3 233 MHz Bondi Blue.

My regular desktop died, and my laptop is really too old to do much, so I dragged the ol' iMac out of the closet. a Bit slow, but I can deal with it for a week or so.

[Aarow]

Is there a site like dpaanlka's System 7 Today for OS 9? I just picked up a PowerMac AGP Graphics from my uncle and I've never used OS 9 before.

[dpaanlka]

Is there a site like dpaanlka's System 7 Today for OS 9? I just picked up a PowerMac AGP Graphics from my uncle and I've never used OS 9 before.

Don't bother... upgrade to some version of Mac OS X (preferably Tiger) if you can.

[840quadra]

Is there a site like dpaanlka's System 7 Today for OS 9? I just picked up a PowerMac AGP Graphics from my uncle and I've never used OS 9 before.

Not that I have found, however there is still allot of information on the web about this operating system as it is much more modern.

Below are some sites that have some free software links, or just plain good information.

http://os9archive.rtsi.com/os9faq.html
(http://os9archive.rtsi.com/os9faq.html)
http://www.os9forever.com/
(http://www.os9forever.com/)
http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0515.html

Personally, I find Playing with classic on faster modern hardware is kinda fun ;) .

[840quadra]

Just got a Mac IIsi for $10 from a local guy on craigslist. This is officially my first computer from the Mac II series, and I am super excited (for some strange reason) to be able to play with it.

As soon as I can get it on the Net I will post it here!

Anyone want a Monochrome monitor (with factory box!) for free + shipping ?

[jhu]

Just got a Mac IIsi for $10 from a local guy on craigslist. This is officially my first computer from the Mac II series, and I am super excited (for some strange reason) to be able to play with it.

As soon as I can get it on the Net I will post it here!

Anyone want a Monochrome monitor (with factory box!) for free + shipping ?

have fun getting that thing on the internet! although personally i'd just use an emulator.

[dpaanlka]

have fun getting that thing on the internet! although personally i'd just use an emulator.

It should actually be relatively easy compared to say, a similarly-aged PC.

[jhu]

It should actually be relatively easy compared to say, a similarly-aged PC.

of course that depends on the operating system

[840quadra]

I am fine, and the deed is done!

It is the same era as my LC (no II or III), has a faster processor, more expandable, and has a larger drive. The LC has been on these forums too ;) .

[Bobdude161]

Tried to post on MR with my Performa 5260 using IE 4.5. Failed miserably. Froze once and all the pages where rendered in the totally opposite way. That computer sucks big time.

[dpaanlka]

Tried to post on MR with my Performa 5260 using IE 4.5. Failed miserably. Froze once and all the pages where rendered in the totally opposite way. That computer sucks big time.

Yes, it sure does (http://lowendmac.com/tech/x200.shtml). You can get IE 5 for that though, but for the reasons outlined in that link, you probably shouldn't bother.

[840quadra]

Tried to post on MR with my Performa 5260 using IE 4.5. Failed miserably. Froze once and all the pages where rendered in the totally opposite way. That computer sucks big time.

They are not that great for using on the web. They tend to be slow, and with some browsers, they can be highly unstable.

I have been on the web with my 6230, and have even posted on the classic check in thread, however it does take a while to do so!

[macg4]

well last night i rebuild my mint condtion Mac IICX... 2mb ram/80mb hd/floppy/radius nubus video card. played shuffle puck in b/w running mac os 6.01

[product26]

http://main.system7today.com/ is hosted entirely on a Power Mac 8100 running 7.6.1 and Comcast cable internet service. People sometimes ask if it's reliable...

58043

All of that downtime, of course, is from Comcast dropping out. :D

It's been getting about 5,000 page requests a week for the past few months. That doesn't include images, though. Pretty impressive for 7.6.1!

The forums are hosted on an entirely different server however.

HA ha, clicked on the link and got...


400 Bad Syntax

The request appears to be improperly formatted.
No URL was found in the HTTP request.

[dpaanlka]

HA ha, clicked on the link and got...


400 Bad Syntax

Really? Are you sure about that?

[RacerX]

After a week of playing Unreal Tournament trying to get it to crash (which it never did), I decided to play a more enjoyable game... Hellcats.

A few days ago I realized that most people wouldn't have any of the documentation for the game (such as mission objectives), so I've taken to recording my mission experiences for each of the seven Hellcats Over the Pacific and eight Leyte Gulf missions (including mission maps with target details).

I've been switching back and forth between playing on my PowerBook 3400c (800x600 resolution at 12.1") and my Quadra 950 (1152x864 resolution at 21"). I figure I've averaged about 1 hour of flight time a day for the last 15 years, which is a fair amount of experience at the game.

What is great about it is that it isn't all that hardware intensive... it needs about 2 MB of memory (more for larger displays) and a 68020 or better processor. Should run on System 6 or later. From 1991 to 1996 I played it regularly on an SE/30.

While I do enjoy it's descendant, Warbirds (which was based on donated Hellcats code), I still have a great fondness for the original game. :D

[SpookTheHamster]

I look at my Mac Classic again today, still no Torx drivers to get inside.

Just out of curiosity, what's the oldest Mac/OS combination able to browse the web?

[luisomtz]

Hi, im new in this forum, today I booted up my macintosh classic to play pacman! but have a little problem first, when it booted up it had a chess board on it, but solved the problem by waiting 30 min and then turning it on again. ;)

[840quadra]

After a week of playing Unreal Tournament trying to get it to crash (which it never did), I decided to play a more enjoyable game... Hellcats.

A few days ago I realized that most people wouldn't have any of the documentation for the game (such as mission objectives), so I've taken to recording my mission experiences for each of the seven Hellcats Over the Pacific and eight Leyte Gulf missions (including mission maps with target details).

I've been switching back and forth between playing on my PowerBook 3400c (800x600 resolution at 12.1") and my Quadra 950 (1152x864 resolution at 21"). I figure I've averaged about 1 hour of flight time a day for the last 15 years, which is a fair amount of experience at the game.

What is great about it is that it isn't all that hardware intensive... it needs about 2 MB of memory (more for larger displays) and a 68020 or better processor. Should run on System 6 or later. From 1991 to 1996 I played it regularly on an SE/30.

While I do enjoy it's descendant, Warbirds (which was based on donated Hellcats code), I still have a great fondness for the original game. :D

That sounds like fun! I need to start actively looking for classic games I like, and start using my older systems for some more entertainment purposes.

At this point, I tend to write articles for my site primarily on my classic computers, then network copy them over to a system that can handle the PHP / CSS / Java based loader to upload stories and pictures.

I would like to keep these systems on after the upload, and play some classic games on them!

Speaking of which, I just got done playing Life and Death doctors on my SE today. I still don't understand what I need to do in surgery in that game, but it is actually an interesting game!

[RacerX]

Well, I spent quite a bit of today working on both my PowerBook 3400c and my PowerMac 8600 (mainly for rendering the longer movie files) working out aspects of my CG model of the USS Columbia (which I talked about quite a bit in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=258327)).

I made some updates to the warp engine of my model now that I'm getting better at making shapes in Vision 3D. Shapes that I had used originally as sort of place holders have been replaced with more accurate versions of those parts.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/nacelle_progress-12302006.jpg

I've been reading up on how to make animation a little bit more. As a test case of what I learned, I've animated the dome of the warp nacelle.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/nacelle_test-s.jpg
Click to view clip (http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/nacelle_test.mov)
Duration: 17 sec.

And a slightly different version...

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/nacelle_test_2-s.jpg
Click to view clip (http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/nacelle_test_2.mov)
Duration: 8 sec.

Additionally I've done a longer animation with both the ship moving in space (relative to the camera) and the warp engine animated.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/approach-s.jpg
Click to view clip (http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/approach.mov)
Duration: 23 sec.

All and all, I'm pretty happy with what I've accomplished in a little more than 3 weeks work.

:rolleyes:

And what I've been able to do on my old classic Macs! :D

[RacerX]

I've been playing with Vision 3D a little more... this time I've made some progress on an Enterprise style starship, the USS Constellation.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/1017-test-01122007-s.jpg
Click to enlarge (http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/1017-test-01122007.jpg)

I also finally got around to trying out my idea for a phaser effect. I finished up some elements of the Constellation and paired it up with the Columbia.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/phaser_test_sm.jpg
Click to view clip (http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/columbia/phaser_test_sm.mov)
Duration: 41 sec.

As a first experiment I think this actually worked out okay (though I need to work on getting the sound better). And I decided against venturing into battle for my first test. ;)

In addition to using Vision 3D, I did the bridge elements in Adobe LiveMotion and the phaser effects with the ships in Flash 5. It's great what all this old stuff can do. :D

[Cassie]

Very nice, RacerX!

Played some Shufflepuck with my old Mac Classic running 6.0.3.

[madmax_2069]

just bought a Performa 475. it was to replace my lc475 that fried a wile ago. now im buying upgrades for it. a full 68040 40mhz cpu, 128mb simm (known to work in the LC475 or equivlent mac's) both for $48 USD, 1mb vram (looking for where to buy 2 512 vram sticks), and a external scsi with a cdrw drive in it for $10 USD.

there is diffrent way's for me to chip it to get it to run at 40mhz, moving the resistors is one way but not very sucessful, another way is to replace the oscolator (or buy a snap on replacement), or replce the PLL clock driver (which is going to be a PITA) one of the methods will only allow me 640x480 screen resalution. but i dont know what meathod will cause it.

i will prolly just move the resistors to set it for 33mhz and run it there for a few. and do some research on what method i will take to get it running at 40mhz that will work best for me that wil alow me to switch screen resalutions.

oh the specs on it right now is 36mb ram, 512k vram, 60LC040 25mhz and OS 7.6. It runs quite will for its age. ive ran Duke Nukem 3d on it runs a bit choppy but thats due to the 68LC040 (lack of FPU) and the 512K VRAM is a limiting factor. the PC's minimum requirements for that game is a 486DX2 66mhz 8mb ram perferably a Pentium class CPU. i would love to see a 386 or 486 25mhz PC play it as well as this old mac does at 640x480

[aquajet]

I managed to overclock a Quadra 605 (equivalent to the 475) by de-soldering a resistor on the logic board and it didn't result in any screen resolution limitation. The only issue was the installer programs for system software always reported that my machine wasn't supported. I assume this is because of a change in the gestalt ID, one which isn't recognized by the OS installer.

[madmax_2069]

I managed to overclock a Quadra 605 (equivalent to the 475) by de-soldering a resistor on the logic board and it didn't result in any screen resolution limitation. The only issue was the installer programs for system software always reported that my machine wasn't supported. I assume this is because of a change in the gestalt ID, one which isn't recognized by the OS installer.

yea then you have to use a app to change the gestalt ID back to what it should be . sorry im half asleep cant remember the name of the app. so what speed did you get it running at. im getting a full 68040 40mhz cpu and hope i can get there. cause allot of the sites say it will not work at 40mhz cause its cant sync with the video or cpu's speed . cant remember which. but at 33mhz it works great. i think what limits the video to one rez is if you use a oscolator to make it run faster.

[aquajet]

I overclocked it to 33mhz, with the original processor, without any instability. Didn't try going any faster than that.

IIRC, the name of the app was "Wish I Were".

[madmax_2069]

the full 68040 40mhz cpu and the 128mb stick of ram came in this morning. installed them and they are running great. system shows 132mb ram and shows the system having a full 040 (just i dont have the proper resistors to try making the system 33mhz or trying 40mhz) so its running at 25mhz right now. but it does show a nice little speedup over the LC040 running the same speed. files unstuff allot faster now. and the few 68k games i have play faster.

now im on to get a PDS III ethernet card, and going to upgrade to 1mb vram (has 512k vram now) that should speed up the games a bit more at a higher screen rez.

BTW RacerX those startrek images and video look awesome, great job.
i would love to do somthing like that

[RacerX]

I've put together a handful of shots of my Constellation as she stands so far. I figured this was a good point to benchmark my progress.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/constellation/1017-02152007-s.jpg
Click to enlarge (http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/constellation/1017-02152007.jpg)

[madmax_2069]

i bought and installed a Apple Ethernet PDS card in my Performa 475. it works great and i can share my dialup connection on my Beige G3 AIO use 10.4.8 and 9.2.2 (with the help of IPnetrouter) since OS 9.2.2 dont have that capability. and i can share files useing apple talk in OS 9.2.2 insted of useing a floppy disk.

i will be buying a external scsi cd burner drive for my Performa 475

also i was finaly able to buy the rest of the ram to max out my Beige G3 AIO to 768mb ram.

all i need to do now is buy a replacement case fan for my Beige G3 AIO cause its going out. i was wanting to replace it anyway cause of how loud the stock fan is. but my problem is that i dont know the size of the fan and where i can buy a real quiet and good performing fan.

ah i almost forgot that i bought a Belkin wireless G+ PCI card (model F5D7001) for my Beige G3 and it works great in 10.4.8. it detected it as soon as the OS loaded with no addintional drivers added. but the bad thing is that the card dont work in OS 9.2.2 cause the airport software dont support it. only if there was a 3rd party driver to support this card in OS 9.2.2. even if it only used the wireless b part of the card would be fine by me. i tryed the IOxperts drivers for OS 9 but they dont support it yet. but be warned tho they made this card with diffrent chipsets in them. i found the same model of the card in wal marts with diffrent pic's on the box some showed a card with the broadcom chipset and some showed a diffrent card with a diffrent chipset. im leading to beleave this is how to tell from the one with the broadcom chipset in it so that is what i did and it works great in OS X only.

also bought a Belkin wireless G+ router to go with the wifi card i bought. the router also supports OS X to set it up and i was shocked to learn it fully supported appletalk.

[Old Mac Geezer]

I yanked an old hard drive from a pile of Performa 6200 parts and put in a 6500/250 and fiddled around with MacOS 9.1 for a little bit.

I also had my 7500 on the internet recently.

Been busy playing with my Digital Audio Powermac mostly. I just bought a Radeon 9700 video card off of ebay last night because the stock Rage 128 isn't cutting it.

[madmax_2069]

i finally got my final piece of hardware for my Performa 475 to make it fully upgraded..

Spec's
Full 040 40mhz CPU (still runs at the stock 25mhz) but will soon change to 33mhz or try for 40mhz.

132mb ram

1mb vram (which was the final piece of hardware i just got)

1.2 GB HDD (plan on trying to get a 4gb or a 8gb HDD for it some time)

External LaCie SCSI CDRW drive (reads great and burns great with toast deluxe 4.x)

Apple Ethernet PDS card

and has OS 7.6.1 and runs great. play's Duke nukem 3d (a bit slow but playable) wolfinstine 3D (play's good but at higher screen rez runs a bit slow) and A-10 Cuba (play's good) the speed of the games will get better once i clock up the CPU.

so far im very satisfied with the system on what it can do

[840quadra]

Wow I forgot all about this thread!

I am typing this on my Performa 575 with Star Trek VI playing in iTunes on my G4 Dual 533 sitting next to it. I still want to start playing in 3d and still haven't taken the plunge.. For some reason it appears that this would be something really complicated to do!

Anyway, I am tasked with finding some classic screen savers fro a friends old Powermac, and I figured that since this system (the 575) is in the prime spot next to my G4, that I could use it for the search.

Bah, well I better get back to work, it takes quite some time for pages to load on this thing, but it is great to be posting and working online with a 68k based mac again, now it's time to find a 40MHz 68040 for this thing!