View Full Version : Ready to make the plunge, but 2.16 ghz, or 2.33?
notsam
Sep 23, 2006, 03:26 PM
Well, i'm finally getting ready to pick up a 24" iMac (i am currently using a 1.33 ghz g4 power book, and was using one of the first snow globe iMac g4s before that) but I am not sure whether or not it is worht spending the extra few hundred bucks for the 2.33ghz processor. I'll be doing plenty with it (final cut express, audio editing, as well as the day to day stuff and bootcamp) but still, is 2.33 ghz really necessary?
yoak
Sep 23, 2006, 03:39 PM
Personally I dont think so. I just ordered mine. I figured better spend the money on 2 gig of RAM, the faster graphics card and bluethooth mouse and keyboard. I think the RAM will do more than the ghz.
Good luck
Queso
Sep 23, 2006, 03:41 PM
Stick with the 2.16GHz and get the video upgrade and some more memory. It will serve you better as time goes on.
notsam
Sep 23, 2006, 03:55 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, $2800 later, here's what it looks like:
Final Cut Express HD preinstalled
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB SDRAM
500GB Serial ATA Drive
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacProGuy
Sep 23, 2006, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, $2800 later, here's what it looks like:
Final Cut Express HD preinstalled
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB SDRAM
500GB Serial ATA Drive
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
I splurged for the 2.33Ghz... and couldn't be happier... I just knew that at some point down the line, It would bother me... so for my own piece of mind, I figured... whats a few dinners out to get the fastest available :)
skunk
Sep 23, 2006, 04:12 PM
I probably will, too. In a couple of months, it'll be the new "lowest spec", and the 2.16GHz will have disappeared. I'm still not quite decided, though. :rolleyes:
mrcammy
Sep 23, 2006, 05:28 PM
$250 for 170mHz? No thanks...
MacProGuy
Sep 23, 2006, 05:32 PM
$250 for 170mHz? No thanks...
I look at it like... $250 for an 11% CPU Speed Increase... absolutely.
However, everyone has different price/pain points... I dropped $215 for dinner on my date last night... so $250 for a CPU isn't really anything.
For others, $250 might be a little more important... so I understand the hesitation...
Of course, it would be NICE if it was more in the $99-$150 range... but if you are willing to pay $150 for an 11% improvement... then the extra is only $100 above what you MIGHT have paid...
I can talk anybody into anything... lol
ZoomZoomZoom
Sep 23, 2006, 05:37 PM
... I dropped $215 for dinner on my date last night...
I can talk anybody into anything... lol
I can't even talk myself into paying $215 for any sort of 2-person meal. I actually had to talk myself into paying an extra $0.05 per ounce for hot dogs that would fit the bun correctly.
Lucky guy :p
As for the processor, the upgrade might be worth it for the OP. For me, a definite no, as I wouldn't ever use the power unless if I'm gaming - and that's still a rarity, as most games are GPU-bound. But if I did have to use that much power for important uses such as work, then maybe.
orangezorki
Sep 23, 2006, 05:45 PM
The impression I get is that the 2.33Ghz is the worst value option apart from the 3Gb RAM.
That's whay I got a 2.33/2Gb/500Gb/7600...
David
skunk
Sep 23, 2006, 05:58 PM
The impression I get is that the 2.33Ghz is the worst value option apart from the 3Gb RAM.
That's whay I got a 2.33/2Gb/500Gb/7600...
DavidSo you got the second worst value option because?
mrcammy
Sep 23, 2006, 06:09 PM
I look at it like... $250 for an 11% CPU Speed Increase... absolutely.
However, everyone has different price/pain points... I dropped $215 for dinner on my date last night... so $250 for a CPU isn't really anything.
For others, $250 might be a little more important... so I understand the hesitation...
Of course, it would be NICE if it was more in the $99-$150 range... but if you are willing to pay $150 for an 11% improvement... then the extra is only $100 above what you MIGHT have paid...
I can talk anybody into anything... lol
Actually it's more like 8%, but I know where you're comming from - I've blown far more for far less in the past...
generik
Sep 23, 2006, 06:37 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, $2800 later, here's what it looks like:
Final Cut Express HD preinstalled
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB SDRAM
500GB Serial ATA Drive
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Actually at $2.8K I'd go the Mac Pro route... you may argue that a display costs heaps but I can always make do for the time being with a smaller Dell Ultrasharp, or even a Chimei 22" LCD for $350+, I will have way more expandability down the road and even the possibility of swopping in Quad core Clovertowns in the future to make it a Octo core workstation.
Sorry, I just cannot justify paying > $1.5K for an "All in one" computer, to me these are just toys, and not real computers.
orangezorki
Sep 23, 2006, 06:59 PM
So you got the second worst value option because?
Because I selected all the better value options, and the 2.33Ghz was next in order, and I could afford it!
David
Clydefrog
Sep 23, 2006, 07:09 PM
Actually at $2.8K I'd go the Mac Pro route... you may argue that a display costs heaps but I can always make do for the time being with a smaller Dell Ultrasharp, or even a Chimei 22" LCD for $350+, I will have way more expandability down the road and even the possibility of swopping in Quad core Clovertowns in the future to make it a Octo core workstation.
Sorry, I just cannot justify paying > $1.5K for an "All in one" computer, to me these are just toys, and not real computers.
yeah agreed i just would have bit the bullet i went with mac pro
MacProGuy
Sep 23, 2006, 08:11 PM
yeah agreed i just would have bit the bullet i went with mac pro
Yep. But here's the problem. It's not a matter of $2800 for the iMac and $2499 for the Mac Pro.
To get similar performance from the Mac Pro, you'd have to configure it to the tune of $4100 including monitor.
Personally, I swap computers WAYYYYY Too often to spend the money.
RAM is super-expensive on the Mac Pros, the Monitor is pricey, and... quite honestly... Mac's will retain 65-75% of their resale value on Ebay, so... when they come out with something bigger and better in the future, I can still get it by selling this one online :)
pianoman
Sep 23, 2006, 08:20 PM
I can't even talk myself into paying $215 for any sort of 2-person meal. I actually had to talk myself into paying an extra $0.05 per ounce for hot dogs that would fit the bun correctly.
that is hilarious! :D
nagromme
Sep 23, 2006, 11:22 PM
I don't think the 2.33 is "worth it"... but I ordered it anyway, because it seems virtually certain not to be upgradable. So I went for the little extra boost from the start.
A similar Mac Pro + 24" screen would have cost a good $800+ more... and while it would have had QUAD processors and more expandability, it would have lacked the Apple Remote. On a daily basis, that remote will improve my life more than quad Xeons :)
(A similar Dell, FWIW, would have cost around $300 more than the iMac, and would have been a big tower spouting cables all over.)
MacProGuy
Sep 23, 2006, 11:53 PM
I don't think the 2.33 is "worth it"... but I ordered it anyway, because it seems virtually certain not to be upgradable. So I went for the little extra boost from the start.
A similar Mac Pro + 24" screen would have cost a good $800+ more... and while it would have had QUAD processors and more expandability, it would have lacked the Apple Remote. On a daily basis, that remote will improve my life more than quad Xeons :)
(A similar Dell, FWIW, would have cost around $300 more than the iMac, and would have been a big tower spouting cables all over.)
Not to mention have sounded like a magnificent jet engine at takeoff, I'm sure :)) Lots of loud, noisy fans...
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