I'd agree if I knew the Panasonic...
Originally posted by nuckinfutz
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Panasonic AGDVX1000 24P Camera
Soon you will see 24P camera from Sony, Canon and others. Currently the Panny is the first at this price level(sub $4k)
Recording in 24P is supposed to give a "Filmlike" look to your video which filmmakers crave. The panny has been getting rave reviews. You do have to have Native support though in your editor and that's what Apple looks to have done with FCP4.
I don't know anything about the Panavision, but I'd agree that it gave "Filmlike" look if I knew that Panavision could:
1.) Shoot with the same kind of lense distortions that you get from a 16mm or 35mm motion film. A 35mm, a 50mm, a 75mm, etc.
2.) I knew that there was some sort of filter (ND?) along with others that could be used to help achieve greater contrasts.
3.) To be able to shoot at variable frame rates, not just 24fps! How about 48fps, 64fps, 72fps, or 96fps?
RE: "FILMLIKE"
No offense to nuckinfutz, but I am a bit puzzled when I hear people use the term "Filmlike" look. Can video (even DV) ever look like film? I am glad they now have more 24p options, however, I just don't see how DV could ever match up with and be "filmlike" when compared to film.
Personally, I'd love to be able to brag that a DV film looks like film, but I really think this is not fair to neither DV nor film. DV and Film seem like such completely different mediums with different strengths.
DV:
PROS:
*A lot more affordable.
CONS:
*Only a few million possible colors.
*Smaller color range.
*Smaller contrast range.
*Needs different, more even lighting schemes to compensate.
* Smaller amount of image (unless using HDTV) information than film.
FILM:
PROS:
* Millions upon millions of colors due to the strengths of using a chemical-based medium.
* Much wider contrast possible.
* Truer blacks.
* Needs conventional lighting schemes to get some really great color and BW shots.
* Larger amount of image information per frame.
CONS:
* A lot more expensive.
I think if you look at STAR WARS: AOTC, it's pretty apparent that the colors and the overall look of the film looks more like a TV show or a videogame, than something shot on film.
I don't know if this interests anyone but the company formerly 4MC in Burbank, CA (I think it's Liberty Media?) has a Transforms department which screens their work if you ask for a screening (or at least they did about four years ago when I was around there).
They transfer Mini-DV to 16mm of 35mm film for a fairly reasonable price for an indie. If you watch them on the big screen it's pretty apparent that DV has its own strengths but will probably never really be "filmlike" in league with film for the forseeable future. It doesn't make it bad. It just makes it DV.
I'm hoping FCP 4 will be great for the Indie market, but unless they allow to edit HDTV files, I wonder if it will probably be more of a dream to think that consumer and pro-sumer cameras will ever be good enough to be considered "filmlike".
My $0.02.