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macridah
Sep 26, 2006, 08:04 PM
http://www.mac.com/1/webmail.html

For all you .Mac subscribers, our webmail will soon get a new look. It will have drop and drag, autofill, and other features to catch up with the other AJAX web mail applications.

I hope for more .Mac improvements in the future. :D



EricNau
Sep 26, 2006, 08:05 PM
That's nice, but I'm still waiting for more storage.

To clarify, I have .Mac and love the features, I just think for $100/yr, Apple is being a little chintzy with storage (after all, Google offers 2 GB for free and AOL offers unlimited space for free).

skoker
Sep 26, 2006, 08:14 PM
Sweet. Makes me glad that I have 364 days left in my subscription!

irmongoose
Sep 26, 2006, 08:22 PM
Nice. That's quite an update, definitely a welcome feature. The .Mac updates seem to have become quite scarce recently...

Incidentally, where did you find that page? I can't see a link to it anywhere on Apple's .Mac page.



irmongoose

eva01
Sep 26, 2006, 08:40 PM
thank-god webmail is getting an update.

and it is on the main .mac webpage for me at least.

irmongoose
Sep 26, 2006, 08:43 PM
Hmm, yeah it looks like the main page alternates between the Webmail sneak peak and the free GarageBand loops. So sorry, never mind.



irmongoose

MacRumors
Sep 26, 2006, 09:27 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Apple has posted a preview (http://www.mac.com/1/webmail.html) of their improved .Mac webmail service with a familiar feel.

With its smart use of the latest web technology, it'll remind you of the Mail application on your desktop, with a simple and elegant interface, drag-and-drop capability, built-in Address Book, and more

The new .Mac webmail looks like Mac OS X's Mail client with support for drag-and-drop, smart refreshes, built-in address book, quick reply and more.

Apple's .Mac service is a US $99.95/year service offering web mail, and some Mac OS X integration.

scu
Sep 26, 2006, 09:30 PM
.mac is in need of a major upgrade

This is a good start

mox358
Sep 26, 2006, 09:32 PM
Sweet. As an adamant dotmac user this looks really cool. I use my web-mail frequently at work and it's nice to see it getting a major update! Hopefully they update the rest of dotmac too. As is it works great, but it could use some new features.

savar
Sep 26, 2006, 09:35 PM
Apple is using boobs to sell e-mail! Pass it on!

Graeme A
Sep 26, 2006, 09:35 PM
i loves me some webmail... beats using outlook for my personal stuff, and just when i thought it was a waste of money renewing this year.

good move!

zwida
Sep 26, 2006, 09:37 PM
That's GREAT news. I've been stuck using web mail since my IT folks locked down all the ports on our system. Can't wait to have reasonable functionality again.

Peace
Sep 26, 2006, 09:37 PM
Stick around.There's cooler stuff on the way ;)

Stridder44
Sep 26, 2006, 09:37 PM
Cool if you have it already I guess. I could never find the value in the $99 for a .Mac account tho...

email? There are plenty of free email options avalible. Storage? It's nifty but really only if you have a fast internet connection (otherwise I think it'd be smarter to spend that $99 toward a flash card or something). Virus protection? Useful perhaps, what with all the viruses on Macs now-a-days.

crazzyeddie
Sep 26, 2006, 09:39 PM
Its going to take alot more than a Mail update to satisfy me... but its a start.

p0intblank
Sep 26, 2006, 09:41 PM
Wow, that looks very nice! I don't have a .Mac account, but I would definitely love one... but not for $99. :( I'm really hoping for a price drop in the near future.

jholzner
Sep 26, 2006, 09:42 PM
Very nice. Can't wait 'till it's live. My sub. renews in about two weeks or so. I wish they'd give iWeb to .Mac subscribers.

Some_Big_Spoon
Sep 26, 2006, 09:44 PM
Neat looking. It's about time that Apple came on par with Outlook / Exchange webmail.

JoshuaKaufman
Sep 26, 2006, 09:47 PM
Looks great, but as my main email account is not a .mac account and POP doesn't really do it for me, I'll only use it if they provide IMAP access.

The only real reason that I use .mac are its backup and synchronization features which are hardly worth paying $99 a year for. .mac still needs to come a long way to stay competitive and this is reasonable start, but a new interface is only that - a new interface. More space, more features and better functionality are the only way .mac will come out of the dark ages and join the rest of Apple's innovative, first-class products.

bubba451
Sep 26, 2006, 09:49 PM
I'm a long-time .Mac subscriber: Backup and Sync alone are worth $100/year to me. But email? Their email servers are down more than they're up! This is putting lipstick on a pig.

caliguy
Sep 26, 2006, 09:52 PM
Apple is using boobs to sell e-mail! Pass it on!
w00t!

I see bigger (more space) updates in the future.

LimeiBook86
Sep 26, 2006, 09:55 PM
Dot Mac's web mail looks like it was pulled straight out of Mac OS 10.2 "Jaguar" I'm very happy that it's being updated since the interface of the web mail looks very dated. Also the new features look like a good perk :D :)

corywoolf
Sep 26, 2006, 09:56 PM
Glad I get .Mac for free. I like the look of it, but please Apple do the following:

- 4 GB iDisk
- New Killer Feature
- Lower the price to $79
- Better integration

geerlingguy
Sep 26, 2006, 09:56 PM
Virus protection? Useful perhaps, what with all the viruses on Macs now-a-days.

I sense a little sarcasm... :rolleyes:

It's been worthwhile for me, as I have never had ANY outages on my web pages... There's only one feature that I'd really like Apple to add, and that's the ability to use your own domain name, instead of having 'homepage.mac.com/username,' or, worse, 'web.mac.com/username/iWeb/etc. etc. etc.' --> Nobody can ever memorize these URL's. And I have to pay $10 a year to get a Yahoo Domain referrer.

B2O
Sep 26, 2006, 10:03 PM
Has anyone had a close look at the main picture on Apple's preview page? The sender of the email in the top pane is 'Katie Lorenzo' but in the preview pane her name is 'Amy Lorenzo'. Also, the delivery time is out by almost an hour.

Comments?

timnosenzo
Sep 26, 2006, 10:04 PM
sweet!

now lets get ready for the barrage of people saying .mac is a ripoff, etc. :rolleyes:

Has anyone had a close look at the main picture on Apple's preview page? The sender of the email in the top pane is 'Katie Lorenzo' but in the preview pane her name is 'Amy Lorenzo'. Also, the delivery time is out by almost an hour.

Comments?
maybe this means merom MBP's tomorrow? :confused: ;)

justflie
Sep 26, 2006, 10:11 PM
Wow, that looks very nice! I don't have a .Mac account, but I would definitely love one... but not for $99. :( I'm really hoping for a price drop in the near future.
just buy it on Ebay. I bought a new unregistered .mac account off ebay for like $50 plus shipping.

bobber205
Sep 26, 2006, 10:13 PM
Has anyone had a close look at the main picture on Apple's preview page? The sender of the email in the top pane is 'Katie Lorenzo' but in the preview pane her name is 'Amy Lorenzo'. Also, the delivery time is out by almost an hour.

Comments?

He's right! :)

iGary
Sep 26, 2006, 10:14 PM
Thank effing Geebus.

justflie
Sep 26, 2006, 10:15 PM
Has anyone had a close look at the main picture on Apple's preview page? The sender of the email in the top pane is 'Katie Lorenzo' but in the preview pane her name is 'Amy Lorenzo'. Also, the delivery time is out by almost an hour.

Comments?
Nah, it's probably just a mistake on apple's part (after all, i don't think this website has been officially released yet since we can't find links to it). I say that it is not photoshopped because i'm currently logged into .mac through the cited webpage. So yeah, it's real, otherwise i wouldn't be logged into .mac at the top.

DTphonehome
Sep 26, 2006, 10:15 PM
Apple is using boobs to sell e-mail! Pass it on!

Dude, Preston is totally gonna kick your ass.

DTphonehome
Sep 26, 2006, 10:16 PM
OK, this is nice, but they need to light a fire under the collective ass of the .mac development team. That service is in dire need of a complete and total overhaul.

timnosenzo
Sep 26, 2006, 10:18 PM
Apple is using boobs to sell e-mail! Pass it on!
meh, I'm ok with it.... :cool:

BenRoethig
Sep 26, 2006, 10:20 PM
.mac is in need of a major upgrade

This is a good start

And a major price drop.

asphalt-proof
Sep 26, 2006, 10:23 PM
Stick around.There's cooler stuff on the way ;)

Stop it Peace. You are making me salivate and its screwing up my keyb@(FDM??>:D

jicon
Sep 26, 2006, 10:23 PM
This news underscores to me that Mail 2.0 is really only a somewhat decent web interface for your email.

It's a crime that any application with WYSIWYG support won't allow you to select non-contiguous text to apply formatting.

Fine and dandy that .Mac is getting an overhaul, but I'm really hoping for some big improvements for Mail in Leopard.

syklee26
Sep 26, 2006, 10:29 PM
Stick around.There's cooler stuff on the way ;)

like what?

iJawn108
Sep 26, 2006, 10:30 PM
maybe this means merom MBP's tomorrow? :confused: ;)
Notice the N keyboard shortcut?

that's a clean indication of new MBPs next tuesday. :p

Xpress
Sep 26, 2006, 10:32 PM
Once Yahoo started their AJAXy mail service (FireFox only for Macs of course) I thought Apple would have to upgrade their service. I'm hoping their new partnership with Google will bring interoperability between .Mac and Google features like Mail, Pages, Calendar, and more. :rolleyes:

But how about this for perspective: it only costs about $55 to join AND renew the .Mac service. Happily, Apple lets us use the serial numbers that come in any .Mac retail box, like the ones we buy at places we find at froogle.google.com et. al. I've joined and renewed at this price. We can even use these numbers to join at the end of a .Mac Trial. Makes .Mac seem twice worthwhile, donnit? ;)

zelet
Sep 26, 2006, 10:40 PM
Now all they need to do is lower the price to $75, or include dotMac with iLife, or give discounts on Apple software with the purchase of .Mac.

Oh, and they need to increase speed and storage. And they need to add support for smartphones by enabling "push" IMAP.

And they in general need to stop depending on their tie-ins to the OS to make it worth it for the service... thats something MS would do. Make it worth it because it is a better product.

syklee26
Sep 26, 2006, 10:44 PM
what da heck happened to .Mac exclusive widgets?

these are things I want for .Mac (and I have been a user for 3 years).

1. increase of storage to 2gb.

2. price drop to somewhere close to $50.

3. integration of Leopard Mail features (such as Notes and stuff)

4. faster iDisk speed.

5. integration of iCal on .mac

maybe not all of them but at least some.

Edwin the Elder
Sep 26, 2006, 10:53 PM
Seems like the Canadian price hasn't changed wither. It's stuck at $139 (Canadian).

And my subscription expires in 6 days.

Philberttheduck
Sep 26, 2006, 10:55 PM
Hmm.. sounds like .Mac won't be free til after '07. :(

Mac Fly (film)
Sep 26, 2006, 10:57 PM
You spelled PEEK wrong!!

bommai
Sep 26, 2006, 10:59 PM
Looks great, but as my main email account is not a .mac account and POP doesn't really do it for me, I'll only use it if they provide IMAP access.

The only real reason that I use .mac are its backup and synchronization features which are hardly worth paying $99 a year for. .mac still needs to come a long way to stay competitive and this is reasonable start, but a new interface is only that - a new interface. More space, more features and better functionality are the only way .mac will come out of the dark ages and join the rest of Apple's innovative, first-class products.

I am not sure if you said .Mac does not provide IMAP access. .Mac has provided IMAP access from day one. Even during iTools days, the mail was IMAP compliant.

ddrueckhammer
Sep 26, 2006, 11:02 PM
I bought .mac last year and don't use it at all. The new webmail interface puts the email app on par with gmail except gmail still gives much more storage.

Backup is OK but I find SuperDuper to an external hard drive to be more reliable (I couldn't get .mac to restore my backup when my hard drive crashed). The backup software is again hindered by the lack up storage. It might be more useful if at least my iTunes purchases were automatically uploaded to .Mac.

Finally, I figured out how to subscribe to a google calendar with iCal and since then don't care if my calendar is in .Mac.

Hopefully, Leopard and Time Machine will bring new uses for .Mac and a reason for me to buy it again but right now it is a $100 a year place to host my website which I could get for much cheaper as well...Please don't flame. This is just my perspective.

Mac Fly (film)
Sep 26, 2006, 11:03 PM
Wow, that looks very nice! I don't have a .Mac account, but I would definitely love one... but not for $99. :( I'm really hoping for a price drop in the near future.
Hear ****in' hear!!

jessica.
Sep 26, 2006, 11:07 PM
Looks great I am excited. I like paying 100 a year for 50 mb of space.
I'll pay again because I am that egotistical!

wagnerplace
Sep 26, 2006, 11:09 PM
Now if they would only support domain name hosting.

Tommyg117
Sep 26, 2006, 11:14 PM
Maybe it's time I start to get a .mac account

Mac Fly (film)
Sep 26, 2006, 11:15 PM
.Mac is a load of old BALLS!!! It's absolutely ridiculously. We're paying €99 in Europe really for Mail, iWeb was only added recently, but you have to buy iLife '06 to use it. iChat is free? No it's not! Guess what? You have to pay €99, cause you need .Mac to use iChat. The whole thing is a joke! Way to respect your loyal fans Apple.
/joke..

First thing apple could do is simple!! Bar this new, rarely useable addition (by me) every single thing about .Mac should stay the same!! Except one thing, PRICE, .Mac should be $29 in the US, and €29 in Europe. Then add more feature later next year.

zelet
Sep 26, 2006, 11:17 PM
Maybe it's time I start to get a .mac account

If you don't have it now - don't bother getting it. There are free services that do everything that .Mac does. However, since I am so dependent on the email address - I'm stuck paying the $99 a year.

joeboy_45101
Sep 26, 2006, 11:19 PM
I think .Mac is great, and this sneak peek gets me a somewhat excited. Having said that, I thing the .Mac service needs a LOT of work. I mean let's really look at what it offers: a cool email ADDRESS "somebody@mac.com", full usage of the Backup app., secure iChats, groups, and iWeb publishing, and this for $99 a year. WOW!:rolleyes:

Ok, listen! .Mac gets me about as hot and bothered as an egg salad sangwich, I got suckered into it about 2 years ago when Apple was offering subscriptions for a discounted price on the day after Thanksgiving. I remain subscribed and probably will as long as the service is offered but it is practically featureless in it's current form. You know what I really want to see first off .Mac apps like a .Mac iCal or maybe a .Mac TextEdit, how about new Fonts available only to .Mac members, and .Mac Widgets (like once promised). And then the price, the price needs to come down a bit maybe $59 a year.

syklee26
Sep 26, 2006, 11:19 PM
.Mac is a load of old BALLS!!! It's absolutely ridiculously. We're paying €99 in Europe really for Mail, iWeb was only added recently, but you have to buy iLife '06 to use it. iChat is free? No it's not! Guess what? You have to pay €99, cause you need .Mac to use iChat. The whole thing is a joke! Way to respect your loyal fans Apple.
/joke..


u don't need .Mac to use iChat. you can use iChat with AIM account. and I keep hearing this rumor that MSN and Yahoo account might be added.

Mac Fly (film)
Sep 26, 2006, 11:25 PM
u don't need .Mac to use iChat. you can use iChat with AIM account. and I keep hearing this rumor that MSN and Yahoo account might be added.
Just Great! More rumors. rofl..tut, tut, and I don't know anyone using AIM.

applerocks
Sep 26, 2006, 11:28 PM
Just Great! More rumors. rofl..tut, tut, and I don't know anyone using AIM.

I use AIM and Gmail with iChat. It works fine. I never chat with my .mac account.


What if the rumored mapping or phone stuff that might be part of Leopard is only for .Mac users?

.Mac users can call people from their computers or get .Mac Earth or something similar.

Also, iCal needs to go online (add, edit, etc. from the Internet), storage needs to go way up, etc.

Give me something AOL and Google don't.

AOL just announced something that allows you to back up 5GB of data. .Mac gives you 1 GB. AOL is free, .Mac costs $99. I understand there are other features, but AOL has most of them too. It's not worth the $$ until some major improvements happen.

applerocks

zelet
Sep 26, 2006, 11:34 PM
What if the rumored mapping or phone stuff that might be part of Leopard is only for .Mac users?

.Mac users can call people from their computers or get .Mac Earth or something similar.

Also, iCal needs to go online (add, edit, etc. from the Internet), storage needs to go way up, etc.

Give me something AOL and Google don't.

AOL just announced something that allows you to back up 5GB of data. .Mac gives you 1 GB. AOL is free, .Mac costs $99. I understand there are other features, but AOL has most of them too. It's not worth the $$ until some major improvements happen.

applerocks

Yeah, AOL has a better free IMAP mail solution than Apple and a free 5GB storage solution. I think it is freezing in hell right now... AOL has a better offering than Apple... and the AOL solution is FREE!

pengu
Sep 26, 2006, 11:37 PM
u don't need .Mac to use iChat. you can use iChat with AIM account. and I keep hearing this rumor that MSN and Yahoo account might be added.

so sign up for a jabber account, and then use Transports to connect to MSN, Yahoo, AIM, ICQ, etc etc.

A lot of other services offer "simmilar" features, but none that i have seen/used/heard of offer the same integration that .Mac does.

EricNau
Sep 26, 2006, 11:40 PM
...
Give me something AOL and Google don't.

AOL just announced something that allows you to back up 5GB of data. .Mac gives you 1 GB. AOL is free, .Mac costs $99. I understand there are other features, but AOL has most of them too. It's not worth the $$ until some major improvements happen.

applerocks
Plus, I believe AOL offers unlimited email storage (in addition to the 5GB of backup space).

...I'm starting to forget why I ever gave Apple that $100.

MattyMac
Sep 26, 2006, 11:42 PM
Just in time for my renewal:D

swingerofbirch
Sep 26, 2006, 11:55 PM
My dotmac is set to expire.

I will renew if Apple foots the bill again.

A couple of years ago they inadvertently deleted all my webpages and so when they were writing to goad me into renewing I said why should I? You deleted my webpages. So they gave me a complimentary year.

Then last year I paid for it again but they deleted a lot of my messages with an overly aggressive server-side spam filter. Plus they've been plagued with e-mail outages this last year.

I will call customer service. If they pay for it, I'll continue. If not, then I'll have a hard time justifying the expense.

AvSRoCkCO1067
Sep 27, 2006, 12:08 AM
My dotmac is set to expire.

I will renew if Apple foots the bill again.

A couple of years ago they inadvertently deleted all my webpages and so when they were writing to goad me into renewing I said why should I? You deleted my webpages. So they gave me a complimentary year.

Then last year I paid for it again but they deleted a lot of my messages with an overly aggressive server-side spam filter. Plus they've been plagued with e-mail outages this last year.

I will call customer service. If they pay for it, I'll continue. If not, then I'll have a hard time justifying the expense.

Everyone's been plagued by the same email outages...why should you expect special treatment?

Draelius
Sep 27, 2006, 12:24 AM
Everyone's been plagued by the same email outages...why should you expect special treatment?

For the same reason everyone else tolerates inferior service.

eyehop
Sep 27, 2006, 01:03 AM
Thanksyou for thea informatiiive artical, but I'd lik to no mor aboud thise 'smart refrehes' and 'bulit-in address book':D

edcrosay
Sep 27, 2006, 01:11 AM
I would have no problem paying $50 for .Mac, but $99 is ridiculous.
They need at least 5 gigs of storage and domain name registration. I get 20 gigs of storage and 100gigs of bandwidth from my hosting company for 5 bucks a month. Surely Apple could do better.
Anyone remember that huge data center they bought last year? Hopefully at least part of it goes to .Mac use.

Silencio
Sep 27, 2006, 01:35 AM
I would have no problem paying $50 for .Mac, but $99 is ridiculous.
They need at least 5 gigs of storage and domain name registration. I get 20 gigs of storage and 100gigs of bandwidth from my hosting company for 5 bucks a month. Surely Apple could do better.
Anyone remember that huge data center they bought last year? Hopefully at least part of it goes to .Mac use.

Then go buy .Mac on eBay. You'll probably pay less than $50.

Most of the cut-rate hosting companies I've dealt with are actually less reliable than .Mac has been for me over the years (uh, Dreamhost, anyone?).

Sync services make .Mac worth it for me. That, and I've been using my .Mac email address since the first days of iTools, and the IMAP mail functionality has always worked very well between my main desktop, my laptop, and viewing from the web despite the highly dated current interface which looks like it's finally getting a modern, AJAX-y makeover itself.

Presumably the other web interfaces into .Mac are getting an equally complete (and equally overdue) makeover, as Peace hinted at. If there's new services being added, all the better.

Naturally, more storage would be welcomed and ought to be expected, given the competition out there. WebDAV / Finder file transfer speeds really need to be fixed, but I just access my iDisk via an FTP program if I want to transfer any big files back and forth. It's also dead simple to use iDisk to transfer files to my less than tech-savvy friends.

And you still get a free VersionTracker Plus account for being a .Mac member, which saves you $25 right there. :)

Lincoln
Sep 27, 2006, 01:38 AM
As the saying goes, if you don't think its worth it then don't buy it.

Me, my .mac account is up for renewal and this makes me glad to pay for another year. I like my .mac email address, I like the seamless synchronisation between my two macs and don't have a problem (yet) with the current size.

That said, I welcome any improvements to the service.

OdduWon
Sep 27, 2006, 01:44 AM
w00t!

I see bigger (more space) updates in the future.
as do i. with the new quad xserve and xraid on it's way we are sure to see improvements in storage and a shrinking of the accurence of server downages. this looks great hope there ilife integration.

syklee26
Sep 27, 2006, 01:52 AM
Then go buy .Mac on eBay. You'll probably pay less than $50.

Most of the cut-rate hosting companies I've dealt with are actually less reliable than .Mac has been for me over the years (uh, Dreamhost, anyone?).

Sync services make .Mac worth it for me. That, and I've been using my .Mac email address since the first days of iTools, and the IMAP mail functionality has always worked very well between my main desktop, my laptop, and viewing from the web despite the highly dated current interface which looks like it's finally getting a modern, AJAX-y makeover itself.

Presumably the other web interfaces into .Mac are getting an equally complete (and equally overdue) makeover, as Peace hinted at. If there's new services being added, all the better.

Naturally, more storage would be welcomed and ought to be expected, given the competition out there. WebDAV / Finder file transfer speeds really need to be fixed, but I just access my iDisk via an FTP program if I want to transfer any big files back and forth. It's also dead simple to use iDisk to transfer files to my less than tech-savvy friends.

And you still get a free VersionTracker Plus account for being a .Mac member, which saves you $25 right there. :)

i don't think getting a free versiontracker is enough. I never understood why versiontracker is such a big deal because most of softwares get automatic updates anyway. unless i am missing something, i never use versiontracker.

Some_Big_Spoon
Sep 27, 2006, 01:56 AM
VersionTracker.com is indispensable for, personally.. With most software phoning for updates though, it's a bit overkill for VTP, so you're right on that one.

The "member" "freebies" on .Mac are the toaster over give away of the intarweb land. Lame x 3

i don't think getting a free versiontracker is enough. I never understood why versiontracker is such a big deal because most of softwares get automatic updates anyway. unless i am missing something, i never use versiontracker.

cupique
Sep 27, 2006, 02:11 AM
Well, I'm paying 20€ a year for a service in which I have unlimited e-mail addresses, unlimited bandwidth, .net -domain, unlimited subdomains, SQL, php + cgi and 1 GB of storage etc. That 99€ for .Mac doesn't cut it.. Of course I don't have .Mac synchronisation, but I've been doing fine with my bluetooth enabled phone.

Cybix
Sep 27, 2006, 02:14 AM
I dont have .mac, but I do run my own mail server from home, and use squirrelmail... i like the look of the new .mac webmail....

all i need now is for someone to release a simular setup, opensource for me to d/l and install... mmmmm

DJRizzo
Sep 27, 2006, 02:32 AM
Virus protection? Useful perhaps, what with all the viruses on Macs now-a-days.

I'm sure a lot (if not most) users of the .mac webmail interface are accessing it from a Windows PC. So yes, virus protection makes a lot of sense here.

Silencio
Sep 27, 2006, 02:49 AM
VersionTracker.com is indispensable for, personally.. With most software phoning for updates though, it's a bit overkill for VTP, so you're right on that one.

The "member" "freebies" on .Mac are the toaster over give away of the intarweb land. Lame x 3

.Mac used to (still does?) have a pretty nice discount on VersionTracker Pro/MacFixIt Pro. I sprung for it one year; didn't use the extras nearly enough to justify it, and even the paid version of MacFixIt is way too ponderous and difficult to search to have much worth. I do use VersionTracker Plus' features pretty heavily, so I would have paid for it anyway.

But .Mac did offer up a few nice discounts on shareware over the years that I put to good use. (And no, Virex doesn't count!) Nothing that would make you pay full price for the service, but enough to ease the pain noticeably.

irun5k
Sep 27, 2006, 02:58 AM
My $10 a month ($120 a year) web hosting account has 170 (thats right, 170!) gig of storage, something like hundreds of email accounts, php, ssh access, mysql, more, more and more.

True, it doesn't do all the fancy stuff that .mac does with sync'ing and so forth. But that isn't my point. My point is that we should expect more, much more for $100 a year because web hosting providers are able to make a profit by offering much more. If the users demand it Apple will come around. But not if people keep paying for the service as-is. So they upgraded the webmail client- great. The eagle really took a ***** today didn't it?

paulst
Sep 27, 2006, 03:02 AM
... POP doesn't really do it for me, I'll only use it if they provide IMAP access.

Joshua, they do provide IMAP access :) ... From the help pages:

... use mail.mac.com for the POP or IMAP server, and your ISP's SMTP server for the outgoing mail server. If your email program supports SMTP authentication, you can use smtp.mac.com instead of your ISP's SMTP server.

In Mac OS 9, your email program uses POP by default. Mac OS X Mail uses IMAP by default for .Mac Mail accounts.

C14ru5
Sep 27, 2006, 03:08 AM
I have .Mac, but I probably won't be using this feature, disregarding some rare exceptions.

The reason: I prefer using the old Apple paradigm of "one application - one task". Yeah, I know, I like my habits from the outdated old century. I've never completely felt comfortable with web applications, since they don't have keyboard shortcuts that are analogous to the rest of the system. But with more and more applications moving to the web, I admit that I'm fighting a losing battle.

Yes, I'm aware that gmail and .mac have well-functioning autosave features, but that doesn't comfort me well when I try to move to the beginning of a line using command-leftarrow and end up wasting my concentration on the whole "gah! my document disappeared!"-idea. And I haven't even begun talking about command-Q…

Visionaries have been talking about the browser replacing the OS as our main UI for many years, but I still don't think the conventions are mature enough for [me, at least] to do my serious tasks in browsers - yet.

eji
Sep 27, 2006, 03:24 AM
If you don't have it now - don't bother getting it. There are free services that do everything that .Mac does. However, since I am so dependent on the email address - I'm stuck paying the $99 a year.

You can get it for $79, sometimes lower, on Amazon.com. Don't fall for the all-too-easy "automatic renewal" check box. I've wasted at least one hundred bucks over the years through that thing.

eji
Sep 27, 2006, 03:34 AM
they deleted a lot of my messages with an overly aggressive server-side spam filter.

Overly aggressive? I'm currently forwarding all my .Mac mail through Gmail because I got sick of so much junk mail -- 20 messages per day, usually more -- getting through from .Mac to my inbox. I actually thought they didn't have any spam filters at all.

macnews
Sep 27, 2006, 03:46 AM
I think it does look nice. I just hope this is include in Leopard server as well. I would love to run my own mail server with this type of webmail interface.

gauchogolfer
Sep 27, 2006, 03:50 AM
Overly aggressive? I'm currently forwarding all my .Mac mail through Gmail because I got sick of so much junk mail -- 20 messages per day, usually more -- getting through from .Mac to my inbox. I actually thought they didn't have any spam filters at all.


I have the opposite problem. I get much more spam through to my inbox on my gmail account than I do with .mac . As always, YMMV.

Ive
Sep 27, 2006, 04:19 AM
It's just a start of things to come.
With the new webmail and address book an online ical version is not far away.
Look at what you can do with 10.5 server.

Also the iWeb part could get a boost.

So you have:

webmail
Address book
iCal Calendar view
Groups calendar
Website editor (new version of old HomePage)
Sync
Backup

Al these thing in a new and dynamic way with AJAX tech.

Now if you only can edit your documents online in a texteditor...

iflipper
Sep 27, 2006, 04:20 AM
Thank goodness they are updating it. Now lets hope I can stop it turning quoted messages into attachments. I'd love it if they did more with the published calendars too.

bigandy
Sep 27, 2006, 06:00 AM
I dont have .mac, but I do run my own mail server from home, and use squirrelmail... i like the look of the new .mac webmail....

all i need now is for someone to release a simular setup, opensource for me to d/l and install... mmmmm

I think it does look nice. I just hope this is include in Leopard server as well. I would love to run my own mail server with this type of webmail interface.


Try RoundCube (http://www.roundcube.net/). Pretty similar, works well for my IMAP webmail systems. :) ;)

clayj
Sep 27, 2006, 06:04 AM
Looks nice, but I already have my own mail server (Exchange 2003) and it works perfectly, with Outlook Web Access and ActiveSync to my Windows Mobile smartphone. :)

HiRez
Sep 27, 2006, 06:09 AM
All I can say is its about freakin' time. Next, how about a dynamic web-based interface for iDisk, so Windoze users don't have to install an application to use it from the desktop, and with the ability to individually password-protect folders?

askegg
Sep 27, 2006, 07:14 AM
Here are a few more things to fix:

Drag and drop iDisk including right click for renames, etc.
The ability to update the calendar on the web.
An easy way to view published calendars.
A photocast that actually works with other platforms and browsers.
Better integration of iWeb and .Mac (get rid of those old web templates).

I am sure there are more, but these things irk me right now...

PDE
Sep 27, 2006, 07:17 AM
That's nice, but I'm still waiting for more storage.

To clarify, I have .Mac and love the features, I just think for $100/yr, Apple is being a little chintzy with storage (after all, Google offers 2 GB for free and AOL offers unlimited space for free).


I dropped .mac two years ago because it was completely unreliable. Apple has decided to focus on eye candy rather than improving the service. I'm amazed that they can't do both.

I now use roundecube installed at dreamhost and I'm very happy. For the same price as .mac, I get 20gb of storage, unlimited domain hosting, a yearly free renewal of my domain name, 675 email addresses etc etc...and while it's not as integrated as .mac, it gives me much much more useful features. Above all, except for a week of iffy service, it's been rock solid.

For those who want something really nice looking, check out roundcube webmail

Kernow
Sep 27, 2006, 07:21 AM
All I can say is its about freakin' time. Next, how about a dynamic web-based interface for iDisk, so Windoze users don't have to install an application to use it from the desktop, and with the ability to individually password-protect folders?

I've probably got the wrong end of the stick as usual, but I use the web access for iDisk that is already there - I haven't downloaded any applications at all for my work Windows laptop. Is this what you meant, or was there something else on top of this?

rodpascoe
Sep 27, 2006, 07:25 AM
I have the opposite problem. I get much more spam through to my inbox on my gmail account than I do with .mac . As always, YMMV.

I discovered 0spam (www.0spam.com) about a year ago, check it out, it's dropped my spam count in 4 accounts I have from about 2000 - 2200 a day to less than 5 a week! Works with *any* email accounts webbased or otherwise. Awesome :p

junker
Sep 27, 2006, 07:28 AM
I hate to be SO negative about this, but I've never understood the attraction here with a .mac account. I guess it fills the need of some people...but based on all the webmails with online storage - what is the main attraction here? Syncing? With USB storage, CDR's, DL-DVD's who would really need to use this much?
I did a little web page with iWeb (cute but TERRIBLY limiting) and thus had to get a temporary .mac account, but once built..it just sat there and slowly expired.

.mac is the Mac product in my "apple gut" that makes me cringe... very similiar to the cringe I get when I think about going back to my PC for something! Also, it reminds me of the feeling I got when I canceled my subscription to Macworld because it became iPod world...

I really just hate it. Damn! this rumor just pissed me off.

growl.

Does anyone have access to usage numbers? I'd like to know how much .mac is used...

BrianSalts
Sep 27, 2006, 07:31 AM
Apple should just make .mac adbased and free, to keep up with the competition and to attract a whole crapload of new switchers.

godrifle
Sep 27, 2006, 07:51 AM
Dear Job,

Please give me web-based address book that contains the groups I've created.

Amen.

HiRez
Sep 27, 2006, 08:07 AM
I've probably got the wrong end of the stick as usual, but I use the web access for iDisk that is already there - I haven't downloaded any applications at all for my work Windows laptop. Is this what you meant, or was there something else on top of this?Well kind of, but that's very limited. It doesn't support drag and drop, icon or column views, file previews, searching, .zip archiving and unarchiving, etc. In other words, all the goodies you get in a Finder window (including iDisk Finder windows). Using AJAX technologies, most of that should be possible, as they are doing for the Mail application. And as I said, making folders individually password-protectable (separate passwords, unlike now where it's one for the whole disk) is a priority for me.

denm316
Sep 27, 2006, 08:09 AM
I have a few months left of .mac and have began switching everything over to other services. The .mac mail is just unreliable and slow for the price. The new web page looks nice but I am sure it will be as slow as the other services.

I now use GMail for Mail and use Picasa for photo hosting. It has great iPhoto intergartion and the premium service is like 20 bucks a year.

Kernow
Sep 27, 2006, 08:14 AM
Well kind of, but that's very limited. It doesn't support drag and drop, icon or column views, file previews, searching, .zip archiving and unarchiving, etc. In other words, all the goodies you get in a Finder window (including iDisk Finder windows). Using AJAX technologies, most of that should be possible, as they are doing for the Mail application. And as I said, making folders individually password-protectable (separate passwords, unlike now where it's one for the whole disk) is a priority for me.

Ah - I get you now, and yes all that would be very nice. I don't use the iDisk that often, mainly just to store the odd file that I work on from both home and work, but the functionality you describe would make that a lot easier too.

BornAgainMac
Sep 27, 2006, 08:16 AM
Well, I have excellent news. .Mac is down! Maybe they are going live with the new mail today along with some other goodies.

Macnoviz
Sep 27, 2006, 08:17 AM
Does this drag and drop include attachements? That has always been my biggest pain with webmail (any webmail service, gmail, hotmail, ...) was that it is really annoying to send attachements (one by one adding and uploading instead of adding them all and upload them all at once)

Diatribe
Sep 27, 2006, 08:31 AM
Well, I have excellent news. .Mac is down! Maybe they are going live with the new mail today along with some other goodies.

It still shows all .Mac services online and operational for me...

mi5moav
Sep 27, 2006, 09:07 AM
Well, finally Apple has the only option for my web mail needs.

Less then $499 a year
No stinking contextual ads
IMAP and POP access
Drag and Drop functionality
Inline Image support
Digital Signatures
Able to Label Mail
Email Encryption
No Banner Ads
Slick Interface
Helps Support AAPL stock

e-coli
Sep 27, 2006, 09:13 AM
When oh when are they going to update that insanely arcane iCal "feature" on .Mac. Why isn't it easy to access my calendars from my .Mac homepage? And WHY can't I ADD an event from .Mac. So frustrating.

And can we please for the love of God get a .Mac site optimized for mobile?

curmi
Sep 27, 2006, 09:14 AM
I think some people here think this is suddenly going to allow us to drag an image from our desktop to the .Mac mail page, and attach it to a new message. That isn't what they are describing as "drag and drop". They are talking about moving messages around in the web browser window.

Diatribe
Sep 27, 2006, 09:22 AM
When oh when are they going to update that insanely arcane iCal "feature" on .Mac. Why isn't it easy to access my calendars from my .Mac homepage? And WHY can't I ADD an event from .Mac. So frustrating.

And can we please for the love of God get a .Mac site optimized for mobile?

Now THAT would be a great addition. Fully editable iCal web interface with the new webmail interface would make .mac a lot better.

The only things missing then would be 2GB storage and a FASTER iDisk.

ShavenYak
Sep 27, 2006, 09:28 AM
I had .mac two years ago but didn't renew it. I use Fastmail.fm for email and have a reseller web hosting account with gigabytes of space, and pay less than $99/year for both. Here's the things that would make me consider paying for .mac:


iCal access - with the ability to edit my calendar remotely and sync back to my Macs. Preferably also a way to sync with Outlook or Mozilla Calendar or some other client I can run on my Dull PC at work.
Over-the-air sync of contacts and calendar to my cellphone. I'll buy an iPhone if that's what it takes, but this should be do-able with SyncML and any reasonably modern cellphone.
More storage, and a way to point my own domain name at .mac. Bonus points if .mac can serve email for my domain.

rtdunham
Sep 27, 2006, 09:30 AM
Apple is using boobs to sell e-mail! Pass it on!

that's really childish. the REAL question is who took the picture? they're on their honeymoon, for gosh sakes: and they took a friend?

VanMac
Sep 27, 2006, 09:37 AM
Nice.

I use .mac and webmail alot. Will be nice to get an improved interface.

rtdunham
Sep 27, 2006, 09:39 AM
Has anyone had a close look at the main picture on Apple's preview page? The sender of the email in the top pane is 'Katie Lorenzo' but in the preview pane her name is 'Amy Lorenzo'. Also, the delivery time is out by almost an hour.

Comments?

obviously, Katie's sister Amy took the honeymoon picture.

:)

Porchland
Sep 27, 2006, 09:44 AM
Its going to take alot more than a Mail update to satisfy me... but its a start.

Yeah, with this previewing four months ahead of Macworld, I'd say we're headed for a major upgrade of .Mac with even tighter integration to Mail, iCal and iLife.

I still hope Mail and iCal will be collapsed into one app in Leopard.

legacyb4
Sep 27, 2006, 09:58 AM
Super short domain name...

the attraction here with a .mac account

Macnoviz
Sep 27, 2006, 10:21 AM
I think some people here think this is suddenly going to allow us to drag an image from our desktop to the .Mac mail page, and attach it to a new message. That isn't what they are describing as "drag and drop". They are talking about moving messages around in the web browser window.

I feared as much, still being able to select multiple files in one time to attach would be enough for me, or just wait to upload until you are done

ddrueckhammer
Sep 27, 2006, 10:24 AM
I now use GMail for Mail and use Picasa for photo hosting. It has great iPhoto intergartion and the premium service is like 20 bucks a year.

Wow! I didn't know about Picasa web albums. It does integrate with iPhoto great and 1000 pictures on the web for free sounds good to me! So now this is what my Google Services page looks like:

Google Calandar (Better in every way than .Mac's calandar, if it can be synched with iCal in Leopard I will be so happy)
Gmail .Mac mail probably is on parity with it now with this update but sadly Google gives you much more space for free! (The ads are very minimal)
Picasa Web Albums Awesome! Just awesome.
Google Spreadsheets/Writely These have room to grow but are really handy in a pinch. I can't wait until they have a basic set of productivity apps Writely etc. online for free and not in beta. They aren't office killers but most people don't use 90% of the features of Office anyway.

I stopped using Backup because it didn't work when I needed it to and besides the iDisk is much too small to backup anything but personal information. I use SuperDuper now with an external but will use Time Machine and an external with Leopard. I am using godaddy for my domain name and will probably use them as my host for my iWeb page next year when my account dies. Apple seriously needs to take a clue from google and offer the same kinds of apps at a much reduced price.

ddrueckhammer
Sep 27, 2006, 10:34 AM
EDIT: Sorry, I don't know how I got a double post...

Squonk
Sep 27, 2006, 10:35 AM
Now THAT would be a great addition. Fully editable iCal web interface with the new webmail interface would make .mac a lot better.

The only things missing then would be 2GB storage and a FASTER iDisk.

Right on! Many have said this in the thread and I agree!

And there was another post about email groups being usable on the web - agreed!

Although I have a .mac account and really like the short domain name, due to the weak web interface, I have used gmail as my primary email for the past year. In fact, there are only like 3 friends of mine that have the .mac address since I don't check it all that often.

And, do you think it would be too much trouble for Apple to supple a Mac and PC (sorry, that's what I have to use at work) notifier client for new mail?

Sopranino
Sep 27, 2006, 11:04 AM
I've been a very satisfied customer of .Mac since its inception. I receive zero spam e-mails and I am delighted with the ability to create aliases. On top of that there is no advertising at all. I also have a couple of other web-mail accounts and they get zillions of spam messages even with their respective anti-spam filters turned on. I think that this update adds a little bit more polish on an already decent offering. I do agree with a previous poster that the iCal integration needs some work.

Sopranino

justflie
Sep 27, 2006, 11:07 AM
I've been a very satisfied customer of .Mac since its inception. I receive zero spam e-mails and I am delighted with the ability to create aliases. On top of that there is no advertising at all. I also have a couple of other web-mail accounts and they get zillions of spam messages even with their respective anti-spam filters turned on. I think that this update adds a little bit more polish on an already decent offering. I do agree with a previous poster that the iCal integration needs some work.

Sopranino
That's true, I have received VERY little spam, and what i do receive gets put right into junk mail. I have 2 to 3 email addresses forwarded to my .mac account (those 2 to 3 do receive spam) but i still get very little in my Mail.app or webmail. good point, because if anyone has ever used hotmail, that crap gets annoying fast.

ct-scan
Sep 27, 2006, 11:27 AM
I think it does look nice. I just hope this is include in Leopard server as well. I would love to run my own mail server with this type of webmail interface.

I currently use the built-in Squirrelmail...and while it works for my users, this interface is would be much closer to what they're looking for.
(Not that us sysadmin really care that much about users :D )

syklee26
Sep 27, 2006, 11:30 AM
what da heck does that "quick reply" mean? is that like pressing "reply" button which pops up a small window where I put my message or is it something else?

lmalave
Sep 27, 2006, 11:41 AM
Stick around.There's cooler stuff on the way ;)

Hmm...are Address Book and iCal going to get the same treatment? It would be great for .Mac to finally have an offering that competes with what Yahoo, Google, etc. have been providing for free for quite some time...

...or could it go even farther? What about an online version of iWeb, where you could edit and publish webpages directly from the browser, with drag-n-drop and all that goodness.

Oooh - I just started salivating over iPhone integration possibilities!!!! How about having the iPhone sync with .Mac directly - even if you're not anywhere near your computer? Or how about the iPhone having mobile blogging software that will publish blog entries to a blog on your .Mac website? These are all features that other phones and websites offer, but the difference for Apple would be the seamlessness of the Mac/iPhone/.Mac integraton...

lmalave
Sep 27, 2006, 12:02 PM
Yeah, with this previewing four months ahead of Macworld, I'd say we're headed for a major upgrade of .Mac with even tighter integration to Mail, iCal and iLife.

I still hope Mail and iCal will be collapsed into one app in Leopard.

Heh, and don't foget the iPhone is slated to debut in early 2007. Though I don't expect it to be available in January, I'll bet they will at least preview it. So I think the iPhone and .Mac upgrade will go hand in hand. So besides the phone synching with the improved online Mail, Address Book, and iCal, expect these features:

1) Ability to make blog postings from phone
2) Ability to view online photo albums/slide shows from phone
3) Ability to *post* online photo albums from phone

Although these are available from other phones and websites, I think Apple's edge will be in marketing its ease-of-use to the consumer

And hey, I just thought of something...
What if Apple not only expands the storage space for mail and files, but *greatly* expands it (maybe for an additional fee) with the intent of having people host multimedia files (music, photos, even videos) on their .Mac account. So the idea is that the iPhone will be 4GB but maybe your music collection is 20 GB. Well, you can upload the files to .Mac, and .Mac will then have the ability to stream any song in your music collection to your phone (or to another computer). Sure, there are already web-based services out there that already allow you to view and stream content from your own computer, but:

1) hosting content on your own machine may be in violation of your broadband provider's terms of service
2) your machine would have to constantly be on
3) your machine would not have as fat a pipe to the internet as if you hosted it on something like .Mac (or at least in theory it would be more constrained)

So having .Mac host streaming multimedia would be so great! Not only would your precious music/multimedia files be automatically backed up, but they would be available to you from the iPhone or from any computer. If Apple doesn't do this, some 3rd party provider eventually will.

Object-X
Sep 27, 2006, 12:14 PM
Stick around.There's cooler stuff on the way ;)

I expect this is the first application and I bet they will release a calandar application when Leopard is released next year. It seems that .Mac will get the old versions of iLife. If you look at the other .Mac offerings that will have to be updated it isn't much of a stretch to see them integrate the iWeb and iWork suite. This is obviously Apple's answer to Google G-whatever and Microsoft's Live service.

If .Mac offered a full suite of applications at some point, is it beyond the realm of possibility that Apple could sell a low cost terminal computer? Or maybe a future touch screen iPod that syncs up with .Mac service? Or even better, an iPod with a HDMI out dock that can plug into a monitor or HDTV, and with .Mac it's basically a glorified terminal computer. That would be so cool. :cool:

bjdku
Sep 27, 2006, 12:17 PM
that's really childish. the REAL question is who took the picture? they're on their honeymoon, for gosh sakes: and they took a friend?


I totally agree! It was the first thing I noticed...
"come to .mac mail, come to .mac mail!"

syklee26
Sep 27, 2006, 12:20 PM
im kinda still bitter about Apple not delivering .mac exclusive widget they promised...

and when is this actually happening? last time Apple said "coming soon" regarding .Mac was regarding the widget.

ifjake
Sep 27, 2006, 12:22 PM
still not worth it.

But for those of you that it is worth it (or have money enough to not care), and are clamoring about an iCal feature, Leopard server has some of that stuff in there, so who knows, it may also be in the works.
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/

savar
Sep 27, 2006, 12:49 PM
meh, I'm ok with it.... :cool:

Me too...I was just trying to get the word out!

cherrypop
Sep 27, 2006, 12:58 PM
Stridder44,

You don't have to pay $100/year for DotMac.

I posted a tutorial here on how to save 20% to 50% on DotMac:

http://homepage.mac.com/cherrypop/iblog/C1900478167/E20060925071526/index.html

Cool if you have it already I guess. I could never find the value in the $99 for a .Mac account tho...

email? There are plenty of free email options avalible. Storage? It's nifty but really only if you have a fast internet connection (otherwise I think it'd be smarter to spend that $99 toward a flash card or something). Virus protection? Useful perhaps, what with all the viruses on Macs now-a-days.

BRLawyer
Sep 27, 2006, 01:01 PM
still not worth it.

But for those of you that it is worth it (or have money enough to not care), and are clamoring about an iCal feature, Leopard server has some of that stuff in there, so who knows, it may also be in the works.
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/

I am SpyMac Club member until late 2007, and I must say most features are close to useless...forums are a mess, I don't have time for blogging/webdesigning, one takes a long while to upload something to the online disk and syncing is sketchy...

This means that .Mac is still pretty far off for me as well...after all, I can barely cope with answering my own emails...:(

syklee26
Sep 27, 2006, 01:26 PM
I am SpyMac Club member until late 2007, and I must say most features are close to useless...forums are a mess, I don't have time for blogging/webdesigning, one takes a long while to upload something to the online disk and syncing is sketchy...

This means that .Mac is still pretty far off for me as well...after all, I can barely cope with answering my own emails...:(

u certainly had time to post a message on this board though

Hodapp
Sep 27, 2006, 01:28 PM
u certainly had time to post a message on this board though
:rolleyes:

Starsky
Sep 27, 2006, 01:55 PM
Then go buy .Mac on eBay. You'll probably pay less than $50.


Where do you see this? Every ebay auction I see for dotmac ends up being at least $75 or more with $5 shipping at least.

Not that great a deal.

Fukui
Sep 27, 2006, 02:08 PM
That's nice, but I'm still waiting for more storage.

To clarify, I have .Mac and love the features, I just think for $100/yr, Apple is being a little chintzy with storage (after all, Google offers 2 GB for free and AOL offers unlimited space for free).
For $100 a year, they should boost the speed of iDisk by about oh, I don't know, 100x... still "too damn slow".... oh, and also drop the price to $50. If they wanna get more people in the door, they have to offer something free to start with, perhaps email should at least be free.

BRLawyer
Sep 27, 2006, 03:00 PM
u certainly had time to post a message on this board though

Yep, this is probably the last forum i contribute to...it's still much easier than having to log into Spymac all the time.

iJaz
Sep 27, 2006, 03:23 PM
Looks good, but I want more for my money...

weave
Sep 27, 2006, 05:43 PM
When oh when are they going to update that insanely arcane iCal "feature" on .Mac. Why isn't it easy to access my calendars from my .Mac homepage? And WHY can't I ADD an event from .Mac. So frustrating.


Amen on that. It's frustrating that a lot of .mac has been ignored for the past few years. It seemed like that service was improved more often back when it was free. I don't get it.

dgirl
Sep 27, 2006, 06:14 PM
HiRez wrote:All I can say is its about freakin' time. Next, how about a dynamic web-based interface for iDisk, so Windoze users don't have to install an application to use it from the desktop...

if i understand what you're asking for, i think it might already exist. try idisk.mac.com/username. :)

cherrypop
Sep 28, 2006, 04:11 PM
Using your numbers that's $80/year, or 20% off. Not bad for doing basically nothing.

For what it's worth, you can get .Mac packages on eBay for $50. I did earlier this week and have already renewed using the Auth Key.

Again, see my post just above where I listed URL to a How-To I posted on how to save on DotMac. There are different ways to search that should help you if you've only been able to find $80 listings.

Where do you see this? Every ebay auction I see for dotmac ends up being at least $75 or more with $5 shipping at least.

Not that great a deal.

swingerofbirch
Sep 29, 2006, 01:58 AM
Everyone's been plagued by the same email outages...why should you expect special treatment?

I don't expect special treatment. Any dotmac user has the ability to petition Apple for a free year of service to compensate for reliability issues. I'm not pulling a fast one on Apple. It was their decision to give me a free year, and if they do it again it will also be their decision.

If they won't give me a free year as a gesture of goodwill, I am free to make my own decisions based on theirs.

There's nothing special about it. Just dealing with customer service.

muya
Sep 29, 2006, 11:05 AM
I know it's a pain, but if you sit through the .mac seminar at an apple store, they offer it to both new and existing customers for $69. That's what I've done for the past two years.

gmckenzi
Oct 1, 2006, 07:20 PM
Folks,

Even though I believe .mac to be overpriced for the value, after buying a couple of iMacs for my extended family, I decided that it made sense to by a Family Pack license of .mac because the members of my extended family aren't that computer savvy, so making photocasting and sharing files as easy as possible was a priority.

All the retailers I called had no stock on .mac retail boxes and told me they were on backorder. After placing an order a few days ago via the Apple Store online, the original ship date was estimated 1-3 weeks, but my order now shows an estimated ship date of October 24th.

I can only hope that this means that the .mac service and retail boxes are going to get released in late October with new functionality. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I can't figure why something as simple as a .mac retail box with an activation code is backordered more than a month since placing my order unless something was afoot.

I'll secretly wish for Merom MBPs at the same time of course. :D

Gavin.

twoodcc
Oct 1, 2006, 07:48 PM
Looks good, but I want more for my money...

me 2!

Macnoviz
Oct 2, 2006, 02:49 AM
Folks,

Even though I believe .mac to be overpriced for the value, after buying a couple of iMacs for my extended family, I decided that it made sense to by a Family Pack license of .mac because the members of my extended family aren't that computer savvy, so making photocasting and sharing files as easy as possible was a priority.

All the retailers I called had no stock on .mac retail boxes and told me they were on backorder. After placing an order a few days ago via the Apple Store online, the original ship date was estimated 1-3 weeks, but my order now shows an estimated ship date of October 24th.

I can only hope that this means that the .mac service and retail boxes are going to get released in late October with new functionality. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I can't figure why something as simple as a .mac retail box with an activation code is backordered more than a month since placing my order unless something was afoot.

I'll secretly wish for Merom MBPs at the same time of course. :D

Gavin.

Very interesting, I think this deserves an article update

slackersonly
Oct 2, 2006, 10:14 AM
Where do you see this? Every ebay auction I see for dotmac ends up being at least $75 or more with $5 shipping at least.

Not that great a deal.

Maybe its a time of the year thing. I paid $41 in May of this year.

MacBoobsPro
Oct 2, 2006, 10:35 AM
Nah, it's probably just a mistake on apple's part (after all, i don't think this website has been officially released yet since we can't find links to it). I say that it is not photoshopped because i'm currently logged into .mac through the cited webpage. So yeah, it's real, otherwise i wouldn't be logged into .mac at the top.

Its definitley photoshopped. Wheres all the V1aGR4 emails?

Squonk
Oct 2, 2006, 10:57 AM
Its definitley photoshopped. Wheres all the V1aGR4 emails?

I hope this is not redundant, but I recieved an email from Apple this morning with a preview:

Rojo
Oct 3, 2006, 04:36 PM
Sorry if this has already been mentioned somewhere (I couldn't find it), but...

...is there a date for when we can expect this change to .Mac's webmail?

Also, I can understand why Apple previewed iTV -- but why the preview for something like this? Will we be seeing more previews from them? Doesn't seem like their style. Not that I'm complaining... ;)

Willis
Oct 12, 2006, 06:58 PM
www.mac.com

I think that answers the photoshop myth... BUSTED!!

foottuns
Oct 13, 2006, 06:02 AM
I am using spymac, I m not saying that apple services are bad but I rather use spymac and it also my cheaper.

Macnoviz
Oct 13, 2006, 09:04 AM
www.mac.com

I think that answers the photoshop myth... BUSTED!!

It rotates, so that might have caused the rumor

applerocks
Oct 16, 2006, 01:24 AM
Folks,

Even though I believe .mac to be overpriced for the value, after buying a couple of iMacs for my extended family, I decided that it made sense to by a Family Pack license of .mac because the members of my extended family aren't that computer savvy, so making photocasting and sharing files as easy as possible was a priority.

All the retailers I called had no stock on .mac retail boxes and told me they were on backorder. After placing an order a few days ago via the Apple Store online, the original ship date was estimated 1-3 weeks, but my order now shows an estimated ship date of October 24th.

I can only hope that this means that the .mac service and retail boxes are going to get released in late October with new functionality. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I can't figure why something as simple as a .mac retail box with an activation code is backordered more than a month since placing my order unless something was afoot.

I'll secretly wish for Merom MBPs at the same time of course. :D

Gavin.

The online store is showing 24 hours... hmm...

Well, it looks like today (10/16) is the last day to save $30 on .Mac when you get a mac.

Also, Apple updated .Mac in late September last year, so this wouldn't be a bad time to update it (include this enhancement, along with others).

applerocks

beerad72
Oct 16, 2006, 12:10 PM
I was hoping the new web version would have a spam filter or domain blocker but I don't see it mentioned in the ad.

Rojo
Oct 16, 2006, 03:36 PM
I was hoping the new web version would have a spam filter or domain blocker but I don't see it mentioned in the ad.

.Mac webmail seems to be down again.
Could the update finally be happening??

iMeowbot
Oct 16, 2006, 03:45 PM
.Mac webmail seems to be down again.
Could the update finally be happening??
It's up from here, and it's still the old interface.

Rojo
Oct 16, 2006, 05:16 PM
It's up from here, and it's still the old interface.

Huh.
Still down for me.

Anyone else having this problem, or is just me? :confused:

AvSRoCkCO1067
Oct 16, 2006, 05:20 PM
While I think the webmail update will come soon, I think that Apple will update .mac next to iLife in MWSF, as the two products have become extremely connected in recent years...

ericmutrie
Oct 20, 2006, 08:34 AM
I've been following this thread while I anxiously await the new webmail too, and this morning I saw something in Future Shop's flyer that I figured the rest of the (Canadian) dotmac community would be interested in: it's on sale until the 26th for only $69.99 (Cdn). I just bought my renewal code off of eBay for $70ish US, and this is even cheaper than that! If any of you have a renewal coming up, this is a pretty incredible deal.
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10072438&catid=10688

macridah
Oct 25, 2006, 09:54 PM
Come on already ... release the new webmail interface!

EricNau
Oct 25, 2006, 09:59 PM
Come on already... give us more storage!

wmmk
Oct 26, 2006, 04:39 PM
.mac is in need of a major upgrade

This is a good start
very true. still, if gmail cleaned up the interface, added WebDAV support, made a nice homepage to access all google services, i'd totally stop thinking about the possibility of .mac.

macridah
Oct 26, 2006, 08:27 PM
The new interface is now available. It's sweet!!!

And check out the new address book.