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Unclej78
Apr 8, 2003, 09:01 PM
I thinking of purchasing a B&W 400. I'll use this for awhile and then upgrade the processor.

Does anyone know which one: G450 upgrade or G3800 upgrade, would run faster?

I use Photoshop 6, Illustrator 9 and Quark 4, I do use large files. Curious as to which would run faster?



ibookin'
Apr 8, 2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Unclej78
I thinking of purchasing a B&W 400. I'll use this for awhile and then upgrade the processor.

Does anyone know which one: G450 upgrade or G3800 upgrade, would run faster?

I use Photoshop 6, Illustrator 9 and Quark 4, I do use large files. Curious as to which would run faster?

I would think that the G3 800 would be faster in just about everything except maybe AltiVec tasks. I am using an iBook G3 800 right now and it runs really well, but then again it has a 32MB Radeon 7500, which really improves window performance in OS X.

Tarlach
Apr 8, 2003, 09:44 PM
I am running a B&W 400 right now. I have a fast 7200 RPM HD in it and lots of RAM. It runs great. A faster HD and more RAM will make a big difference in it.

I also have a G3 800 iBook with 32mb Radeon video in it. It must be faster but nothing noticably faster about it.

I am not aware of a G3 800 available for the B&W. I am aware of G4 550 cards for it from OWC. Where did you see a G3 800 for it? I am curious.

Unclej78
Apr 8, 2003, 10:08 PM
From Other World:
PowerLogix PowerForce G3/800MHz ZIF
with 512K L2 On-Chip Cache for all PowerMac G3 Models; PowerMac G4 'Yikes' PCI. New with 2yr Warranty.
(PLGPFZ800)..............$297.99


I've been bouncing around alot trying to find which used computer to buy.

I have an iMac G3 400, but need to upgrade. I'm on a VERY tight budget. Trying to spend @ $600, even if I have upgrade later.

I've looked at B&W G3-400 for $399 then @ $300 to upgrade either to G3 800 or G4 500. (Totaling @ $700)

Also at a G4-450 $599 then @$220 to go to a G4 800. (Totaling @ $750 - This option keeps looking better.)

Tarlach
Apr 8, 2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Unclej78
From Other World:
PowerLogix PowerForce G3/800MHz ZIF
with 512K L2 On-Chip Cache for all PowerMac G3 Models; PowerMac G4 'Yikes' PCI. New with 2yr Warranty.
(PLGPFZ800)..............$297.99


I've been bouncing around alot trying to find which used computer to buy.

I have an iMac G3 400, but need to upgrade. I'm on a VERY tight budget. Trying to spend @ $600, even if I have upgrade later.

I've looked at B&W G3-400 for $399 then @ $300 to upgrade either to G3 800 or G4 500. (Totaling @ $700)

Also at a G4-450 $599 then @$220 to go to a G4 800. (Totaling @ $750 - This option keeps looking better.)

Hey, thanks for the tip. I didn't know the G3 800 Powerforce was available for the B&W.. that sure is tempting.

If I were you I would go for the G4-450 because it has better video than the B&W so in the long run you would have a better machine. There are a lot of other improvements in the G4 450 over the B&W too.
My vote is for the G4 then upgrade if needed.

I am very happy though with my B&W 400. I design websites on it all day and it works flawlessly and does all I need. The finder is a little slow but in my opinion it is slow on all Mac's.
My Linux box 566 celeron screams in comparison.

bousozoku
Apr 9, 2003, 12:38 AM
I've been trying to figure out what to do with my B&W G3/400 as well.

It's got the Ultra2SCSI drive so it's faster than average with Mac OS X. I've thought about replacing the Rage128 card with a Radeon card. The processor upgrades look good but it's hard to tell what's going to be good.

How much does a G4 really do for you if you're not constantly running something AltiVec-enhanced?

Has anyone here noticed Mac OS X speeding up particularly quickly after upgrading their G3 to a G4?

If there's little enhancement, the extra speed in a G3 would be much better.

Funkatation
Apr 9, 2003, 01:49 AM
I upgraded my pismo to a G4 500 (was G3 500) and noticed a marked improvement in OS X doing anything. the entire OS is altivec enhanced. definitely go for a G4.