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cleo
Apr 10, 2003, 09:23 PM
"Clutter (http://www.sprote.com/clutter/index.html) is a small Mac OS X application that lets you put music CDs on your desktop. You can drag them anywhere -- they're really windows. Line them up neatly or put them in piles, it's your choice. Each one looks like the real CD's cover, and double-clicking it tells iTunes to play that CD."

I saw this mentioned on a few weblogs today, and after using it for a few hours I can honestly say it's the coolest app I've seen in a loooong time. I'm attaching a screenshot of my clutter pile to give you an idea of what it looks like in action; click the link in my sig for a more detailed review.

medea
Apr 10, 2003, 09:40 PM
I have to say that even though it's kinda pointless and only adds to the "clutter" of my desktop, it is still really cool.
thanks.

cleo
Apr 10, 2003, 10:01 PM
I don't know about it being pointless. I have over 200 full albums ripped, and flipping through the ten or so that are in high rotation right now in iTunes gets annoying. This makes it much, much faster. Less clicks = good!

wsteineker
Apr 10, 2003, 10:05 PM
I downloaded this app a few months back, and my only real complaints are that it still needs some work when it comes to retrieving older album covers from Amazon and that it's making my pathetic little 15" Studio Display feel a little cramped. Still, it's a super cool little app, and it doesn't slow my machine down to a crawl like some other "gimmick" apps (read: effing Konfabulator). By the way, you both have exceptional taste in music! :)

howard
Apr 11, 2003, 12:23 AM
hey medea...i vaguely remember following some of your leads on good music and finding cool stuff....could you enlighten me by listing some of the cds you have up there?...heres what i DON'T recognize:

the arm all the way to the left..with red backround...

clinic

reindeer section

the one with the elephant

ount erie

and the one with black and white squares

what/who are these bands and what are they like? let me know, i'm always in search of new music.

Apple][Forever
Apr 11, 2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by medea
I have to say that even though it's kinda pointless and only adds to the "clutter" of my desktop, it is still really cool.
thanks.
that clinic album roolz.

this app makes my computer desktop look my real one.

Apple][Forever
Apr 11, 2003, 02:02 AM
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jayscheuerle
Apr 11, 2003, 09:48 AM
Sweet little app.

Apple needs to incorporate a cover-art retriever when iTunes is accessing the track name database. It could incorporate the cover-art into some visualizers...

irmongoose
Apr 11, 2003, 11:45 AM
Mwhahahahaha! Look at what I have created!
http://homepage.mac.com/irmongoose/clutter.jpg

... took me some hours.. heh, it's a Friday, I had free time!

As you can see, I have a WIDE taste of music.. everything from Rock to Michael Jackson to Japanese Pop to Techno/Trance to Indian Music to Pop to Comedy to Rap/Hip-Hop.

:D

hmm seems IMG is off.. for now, I hope...



irmongoose

medea
Apr 11, 2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by howard
hey medea...i vaguely remember following some of your leads on good music and finding cool stuff....could you enlighten me by listing some of the cds you have up there?...heres what i DON'T recognize:

the arm all the way to the left..with red backround...

clinic

reindeer section

the one with the elephant

ount erie

and the one with black and white squares

what/who are these bands and what are they like? let me know, i'm always in search of new music.

Ok, the first one your talking about (arm, red background...) is the latest from Low, here is a quote from their website that describes the band completely "make very slow music. That's not the only thing there is to their music, or even the most important thing, but it's what you'll notice first. Low plays songs stripped to their bare essentials: slow tempos, quiet voices, powerful lyrics, and minimal instrumentations...."

Clinic is an amazing band, kinda hard to describe though, I guess it would be dark but catchy art house post-punk (geez...)

The Reindeer Section is an indie "super-group" of sorts with band members from Mogwai, Belle and Sebastian, Snow Patrol and Arab Strap etc. It's sort of somber folk rock.

The "one with the elephant" and "ount erie" are both albums from The Microphones, it's lo-fi psych-pop but on a grand scale quoted as being "Expansive yet accessible, indulgent yet unpretentious." But a warning, if you want to get into The Microphones start with the album "The Glow, Pt 2" or "It was hot, we stayed in the water" because both are a bit more accessible than the new "Mount Erie" record which is more of a concept album. Oh and they have also dropped the moniker of The Microphones and are touring as Mount Erie now.

And the last one "with the black and white squares" is Chat and Business from Ikara Colt, is a sort of art punk group following in the heels of sonic youth, if you like Blonde Redhead then you'd probably like Ikara Colt.

Sorry, I'm pretty crappy at describing music.

kylos
Apr 11, 2003, 10:02 PM
Clutter=cool app

howard
Apr 11, 2003, 11:38 PM
thanks alot medea...i'll have to check out some of those bands

ryme4reson
Apr 12, 2003, 11:44 AM
I have a 22" CinDisplay and I use codeTeck virtual desktops, so I have 1 of my desktops that I do work on, and the other has the desktop full of albums, and has mail open, and other "background" apps running. I switch to desktop 2, pick a cd then back to desktop 1, it works really well.

bombensington
Apr 12, 2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by cleo
I saw this mentioned on a few weblogs today, and after using it for a few hours I can honestly say it's the coolest app I've seen in a loooong time.

GREAT recommendation! i've been wanting something like this for a while...i get "lost" in all of my music sometimes, i guess it's not hard to do with 5500 or so songs...

btw, great selection with the jack johnson album!

wwworry
Apr 12, 2003, 04:30 PM
that cat power album is not bad either. I like clinics 3 EPs and the EP, Walking with Thee

now to see what The Microphones are like.

Thanks!

bennetsaysargh
Apr 12, 2003, 04:48 PM
white stripes rule!

Edit-Where do you get codeTeck virtual desktops? is it free? shareware? or commercial?

also, is clutter free?

bombensington
Apr 12, 2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
white stripes rule!

right on!

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
also, is clutter free?

yep.

bennetsaysargh
Apr 12, 2003, 07:01 PM
thanks

Apple][Forever
Apr 12, 2003, 07:07 PM
Elephant is AMAZING.

I saw the WS in Detroit last year, the Strokes opened for them... they completely made the strokes look second-rate. Even though it was in a big outdoor arena and the sound sucked, it was still a great show.

Ensign Paris
Apr 12, 2003, 07:24 PM
http://www.brooklineuk.com/album.jpg

My top 30 (minus a few that I forgot)

Classical stuff doesn't appear to have much cover art!

Ensign

irmongoose
Apr 13, 2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh

Edit-Where do you get codeTeck virtual desktops? is it free? shareware? or commercial?


Shareware, $30. (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14996)



irmongoose

bennetsaysargh
Apr 13, 2003, 09:36 AM
thanks. i can't afford it :(
oh well. i need to find another seful place for my widgets. (konfabulator)

ryme4reson
Apr 13, 2003, 10:56 AM
You can use Virtual Destops for free (without registering) but you only get two desktops. For me thats enough, it says it supports upp to 100 desktops, but that is unneeded.


James

anneleonard
Apr 13, 2003, 11:17 AM
I love the way that it retrieves the album cover of your track from the net so quickly, it really fits with the importance that osx places on visuals. its great that it is a mini-app that you can fit in a corner and control forwards back and play/pause too.

the only problem that i've found with it is that i can't work out how to delete pictures of your albums once you've made them. I made them by accident when i was trying out clutter, and i can't for the life of me work out how to get rid of the little things. I don't really want the app to do what it says on the tin, you see (i.e. clutter!) Anybody worked it out?

Ensign Paris
Apr 13, 2003, 04:14 PM
to delete, click and select, and then hit back-space.

thats what i do atleast :S

Ensign

kylos
Apr 13, 2003, 05:19 PM
Having used Solaris extensively at school, I definitely appreciate multiple desktops. I'm checking out virtual desktops right now.

bennetsaysargh
Apr 13, 2003, 05:40 PM
i have to say if your looking for virtual desktops, don't use the frost one or virtual desktops by the same people who make the frost bacause it is really confusing and stupid. i freaked out because i quit the app, and it left me with a blank desktop! i had to go, what i used to call sherlocking it, but now is apple-f. i was really scared.

bottom line___just be careful

Datazoid
Apr 15, 2003, 07:53 AM
Never mind...my stupidity...great app

NavyIntel007
Apr 15, 2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Sweet little app.

Apple needs to incorporate a cover-art retriever when iTunes is accessing the track name database. It could incorporate the cover-art into some visualizers...

Dude, that would be great. Include the CD cover on the ID3 tags.

anneleonard
Apr 15, 2003, 10:04 AM
musicmatch used to do this, somehow. i reckon clutter is fantastic, especially when you're working so when one cd has finished you can just click on another one! the people developing iTunes 4 should have a look at it, definitely.

Anne.

Jaykay
Apr 15, 2003, 02:52 PM
Here's my take on clutter....

My Cluttered desktop (http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=25257&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500)