A Truce!

[swanny]

Oct 16, 2006
Earth
Monday

A TRUCE!

Let us propose a "truce" in this "fuzzy" war we are at. I call it fuzzy cause no one knows when it started, or who the enemy is, or where the battle lines are, or whether we are really even at war, or what this war is about alla = "fuzzy war".

A truce then. Seize the day. Cease hostilities, end the fuzzy war.

sir

[skunk]

I think perhaps you need to flesh out your proposal a little...

[swanny]

I think perhaps you need to flesh out your proposal a little...

opps
yes perhaps youre right....
Hmmmmm????
Free Beer....???
Can we work that in there perhaps somewhere.....
hmmmm no that just might make it worse.....

well back to the drawing board....

sir

[Sesshi]

Oct 16, 2006
Earth
Monday

A TRUCE!

Let us propose a "truce" in this "fuzzy" war we are at. I call it fuzzy cause no one knows when it started, or who the enemy is, or where the battle lines are, or whether we are really even at war, or what this war is about alla = "fuzzy war".

A truce then. Seize the day. Cease hostilities, end the fuzzy war.

sir

I think it's not called a 'fuzzy war' but 'a complete balls-up'.

Either way I'm for it. Carry on.

[skunk]

Either way I'm for it. Carry on.The truce rather than the war, I take it.

[Queso]

So exactly how does one call a truce when one is unaware of one's enemies? Put down the gun and sit on the floor?

"All we are saaaayyy-ing, is give peace a chaaaannnnce"

© Yoko Ono

[Abstract]

Ok ok, I surrender.


Now where do I sign that treaty?

[swanny]

oh okay how bout this
how about a "global truce"...
aye aye
wink wink nudge nudge...
that there would cover all your bases...

okay and yet get one beer when you hand in your gun
and woman get 2 chocolate bars....

and then everyone gets a long weekend and then we start with the rebuilding of...
hmmmm Atlantis? nah Rome? nah.... how about we rebuild Athens
now theres a concept
quit war
turn the swords into plough shares
and rebuild Athens....

or the library at Alexandria...
now that would sure to please...

how exactly or roughly many details do we need...

I need a coffee

this is hard work...

sir

[Queso]

Too Westernised. Let's rebuild Zimbabwe (city not country) :)

[mad jew]

swanny, you are the single funniest member here at MacRumors. I love it. :D

[swanny]

swanny, you are the single funniest member here at MacRumors. I love it. :D

Well thankyou MJ but I must admit the single funniest thing at MacRumors
has got to be the Monty Python thread...

sublime
most sublime

but alas we're off topic...

Zimbabwe... perhaps you could elaborate...
got any pics, plans, blueprints....
are we talkin just trees and deserts and wildlife
and huts...
was there once a great city there?

you have lost me in the morning fog...

well at least I got a coffee...


sir

[Sesshi]

and then everyone gets a long weekend and then we start with the rebuilding of...
hmmmm Atlantis? nah Rome? nah.... how about we rebuild Athens
now theres a concept
quit war
turn the swords into plough shares
and rebuild Athens....

or the library at Alexandria...
now that would sure to please...



I'd stop at the chocolate and beer. You'll probably start another war based on what to rebuild.

[swanny]

Ok ok, I surrender.


Now where do I sign that treaty?


okay thankyou very much...
any preference for beer brand

one down 7 billion to go...

this could take a while...

sir

[skunk]

Zimbabwe... perhaps you could elaborate...
got any pics, plans, blueprints....
are we talkin just trees and deserts and wildlife
and huts...
was there once a great city there?
Great Zimbabwe

The first well known site of early urbanisation in Africa must be the ruins known as Great Zimbabwe. This site stands as a symbol for indigenous realisation of state level social organisation and as such it is a source of African pride illustrated by the way in which its name has been adopted for the modern nation of this region. It is also typical of African urbanisation in that much about the society that built Great Zimbabwe is mysterious while it has been seen as something of an aberration. Europeans have found it difficult to believe that it could be of genuinely African origin and this has spawned all sorts of theories involving the lost tribe of Israel and the like. The view that there were no indigenous movements towards urbanisation and state formation is as misguided in its application to Great Zimbabwe as it is to Africa in general. Thus, the site of Great Zimbabwe was entirely a local African development and was occupied from the end of the first millennium AD. The stone buildings which are left today were constructed over the period 1250 to 1450 with the time of greatest prosperity in the middle of these dates. Its wealth was drawn in part from a central position in the gold trade of the region. It had a population of 18,000 justifying its designation as a city and there is evidence for a state with an administration and social hierarchy. Towards the end of the fifteenth century the gold trade seems to have declined and Great Zimbabwe came to a rather abrupt end. It had already been abandoned and was in ruins by the time that the Portuguese came to hear of it in the early sixteenth century.http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.darkage.fsnet.co.uk/PottedHistories/zimbabwe.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.darkage.fsnet.co.uk/PottedHistories.htm&h=416&w=266&sz=78&hl=en&start=30&tbnid=jm5NFfr6oxuZmM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=80&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dzimbabwe%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26cr%3DcountryUK%7Ccou ntryGB%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

[Queso]

Zimbabwe... perhaps you could elaborate...
got any pics, plans, blueprints....
are we talkin just trees and deserts and wildlife
and huts...
was there once a great city there?
A wasteland now was not always such.

Linky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe)

[Lord Blackadder]

I think I'll hold off on the truce for now... I like a little violence in my diet.

[swanny]

Wow....
Thankyou for the Zimbabwe info...
Ubuntu = "humanity to others"
a most ancient africian concept akin to the Golden Rule...

most most intriguing
and an excellant clue...

[katie ta achoo]

I'm ok with rebuilding an ancient greek civilization, but let's keep Socrates out of it. He's a buttmunch.

[Queso]

You do realise I'll never be able to read Plato again now? :p

[skunk]

I'm ok with rebuilding an ancient greek civilization, but let's keep Socrates out of it. He's a buttmunch.The ancient Greeks, for all their fine philosophising, were pretty primitive on the subjects of women's rights and slavery. Rather like the ancient Americans who drafted your hallowed Constitution.

[skunk]

You do realise I'll never be able to read Plato again now? :pHe liked nothing better than to sit in the Gymnasium (literally: place where you take your kit off) and watch the boys wrestling. Bent as a nine pound note, he was. :)

[liketom]

I'm starting to love these threads by swanny :D

i called a truce last night when my mrs wanted me to do the washing up - i still ended up doing it but it was a truce

wait that made no sense what so ever ;)

carry on :)

[swanny]

The ancient Greeks, for all their fine philosophising, were pretty primitive on the subjects of women's rights and slavery. Rather like the ancient Americans who drafted your hallowed Constitution.

Ah yes but few if any are perfect...
They did mind you concieve of "democracy" around 600 BC? or so
which is a bad system perhaps but the best one we've got at present.
It did fail mind you but rise up again around the time of the reformation
1500 AD.

sir

[Queso]

He liked nothing better than to sit in the Gymnasium (literally: place where you take your kit off) and watch the boys wrestling.
So Athens was like a cross between Belgium and Channel 4? :D

[skunk]

It did fail mind you but rise up again around the time of the reformation
1500 AD.It certainly didn't get practised anywhere in Europe for a long time after that.

[skunk]

So Athens was like a cross between Belgium and Channel 4? :DEr, yes, I suppose you could put it like that...


:confused:





:p

[swanny]

So Athens was like a cross between Belgium and Channel 4? :D

Which brings to mind a quote by Huxley
"An intellectual is someone who has found something more
interesting than sex"
Aldous Huxley

velly interesting or....

sir

[skunk]

Which brings to mind a quote by Huxley
"An intellectual is someone who has found something more
interesting than sex"
Aldous HuxleyYou mean it's one or the other? So that's why my mental powers have been going downhill lately.

[Queso]

You mean it's one or the other? So that's why my mental powers have been going downhill lately.
And why mine are recently heightened :(

[swanny]

More interesting than sex...
Yes indeed a tall order...

heres what Popper had to say...

Quoting here :

"the best philosophy is about profound problems, not word meanings." Internet Web Site with regard to karl popper
2006

Now thats highly significant and in a way relates to the monty python
thread at the same time...

a duce.... thus...

sir

[skunk]

a duce.... thus...Are you referring to Mussolini?

[swanny]

which is sort off topic but which unfortuneately brings us to a profound problem related to the thread being "is war equal to or above the law?

now don't answer or answer off the get go....

contemplate this...

it is somewhat profound.

Perhaps someone with proper permission can post it in the politics thread
as it perhaps is out of the scope of this topic.

Truces...

Heard any good truces lately?



swanny

[swanny]

Are you referring to Mussolini?


??? Geez you better watch it skunk
I must be having a bad influence on you...

Mussolini??

youve lost me...

sir

[Lord Blackadder]

Mussolini, as in Il Duce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Duce).

[swanny]

Mussolini, as in Il Duce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Duce).

Oh must be an inside thing...

i meant duce as in "double"...
Killing two birds with one stone sort of thing...

anyway

Did you hear the one about the truce?

I digress...

swanny

[mkrishnan]

A truce? I'm in! :)

A truce means we can still hurt people but it's an "unfortunate complication of the current environment" instead of a "carefully planned and executed military operation," right? I'm all for everything unfortunate! :D

[skunk]

Oh must be an inside thing...

i meant duce as in "double"...That's a deuce.

At least that's what I'd adduce.

[skunk]

which is sort off topic but which unfortuneately brings us to a profound problem related to the thread being "is war equal to or above the law?War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means, Clausewitz said. Unfortunately some see it as a substitute for any diplomacy at all, a means whereby law can be dispensed with. War is fundamentally illegal.

[®îçhå®?]

This is random. I like my feuds with people because i just take the mick and they hate me and it is hilarious.

[quigleybc]

what the hell are you guys talking about....?:confused:

[BoyBach]

I'll sign up to your truce, but...

Can I have a glass of red wine instead of the beer, please?

Nobody said world peace was going to easy!

[mkrishnan]

That's a deuce.

At least that's what I'd adduce.

A spliff with the finishin' touch. I'ma finish you before I finish the dutch!

LOL I love this thread. :D

[Lord Blackadder]

This read has a real...opium den...vibe to it...

...all those...periods...make you "sound"...trippy, Swanny...;)

The two Koreas have a truce - but maybe it would have been better to go all the way and have peace.

[vniow]

Too Westernised. Let's rebuild Zimbabwe (city not country) :)


Damn. I was hoping to invade instead.

[skunk]

Damn. I was hoping to invade instead.You and whose army?

[swanny]

This read has a real...opium den...vibe to it...

...all those...periods...make you "sound"...trippy, Swanny...;)

The two Koreas have a truce - but maybe it would have been better to go all the way and have peace.

Opium... well not exactly
Strong... well "very" strong coffee...

does it to you every time

Wine... does red wine go with truces...
I mean etiquite wise...
Better consult my "Better Homes and Wars" book

sighs...

sir

[Lord Blackadder]

Wine... does red wine go with truces...

I suggest a dry white.

[2nyRiggz]

As long as I get to eat chocolate....I'm in but invading for chocolate sounds tempting.



Bless

[swanny]

Well well done all...
I'll have you note that arms sales, weapons of mass destruction sales and sling shot sales are down and chocolate, wine and beer sales are up....
so we done hit in the market place where it hurts.

Good on us

That's one small stumble for peace,
One giant pole vault for peace kind.

It was fun...
until the more...

sir

swanny has left the planet.

[®îçhå®?]

You and whose army?
Me. I'm built like a tank so we can get a little way into invading the country.

[mkrishnan]

I suggest a dry white.

Mmm, I'm not such a dry person. I like Riesling. And OMG have you ever had Moscato? Victory is supposed to be sweet! :D