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rdowns
Nov 2, 2006, 07:50 PM
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_re_us/haggard_sex_allegations)

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man....

Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."....

Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver.

There's another one (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/congressman_settlement)

ALLENTOWN, Pa. - A Republican congressman accused of abusing his ex-mistress agreed to pay her about $500,000 in a settlement last year that contained a powerful incentive for her to keep quiet until after Election Day, a person familiar with the terms of the deal told The Associated Press.



zap2
Nov 2, 2006, 07:51 PM
:rolleyes: what will they do next

spicyapple
Nov 2, 2006, 09:18 PM
Barbra Walters produced an ABC special on Religion and Haggard was featured as one of the segment guests, along with The Dalai Lama and a terrorist extremist.

I was really funny to see Haggard spouting off about family values and how sinners were going to Hell and he was raving like a lunatic, very similar to the Islamic extremist. Only His Holiness came across as the only truly enlightened one. Even Barbra gave HH a hug at the end of the interview.

This is my first post in Politics! I held out for 913 posts. YAY!

mischief
Nov 2, 2006, 10:51 PM
:rolleyes: what will they do next

Sheep apparently.:eek:

Thomas Veil
Nov 2, 2006, 10:56 PM
Republican family values? Kind of oxymoronic, isn't that?

SMM
Nov 2, 2006, 11:10 PM
Barbra Walters produced an ABC special on Religion and Haggard was featured as one of the segment guests, along with The Dalai Lama and a terrorist extremist.

I was really funny to see Haggard spouting off about family values and how sinners were going to Hell and he was raving like a lunatic, very similar to the Islamic extremist. Only His Holiness came across as the only truly enlightened one. Even Barbra gave HH a hug at the end of the interview.

This is my first post in Politics! I held out for 913 posts. YAY!

Is this recorded somewhere that you know of?

Agathon
Nov 2, 2006, 11:31 PM
Oh God this is great.

IIRC, this nut was the guy on Richard Dawkins' Root of All Evil documentary.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

spicyapple
Nov 3, 2006, 12:06 AM
Is this recorded somewhere that you know of?

It's on ABC but you could buy transcripts or video copy from them, I suppose. Most stations allow you to buy a copy. Here's a review by Variety.

www.variety.com/review/VE1117929143.html?categoryid=32&cs=1&p=0 (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117929143.html?categoryid=32&cs=1&p=0)

Agathon
Nov 3, 2006, 12:09 AM
Actually, scratch the previous post.

This man's obsessive and fanatical behaviour is obviously the result of his struggle with his own homosexuality. I probably wouldn't believe this myself, if I hadn't actually seen it happen before to someone else.

Sure, he's said some bad things, but it must have been pretty terrible to live like this. He's a gay guy, and this fact has probably tormented him for years. If the left starts crowing over this, it's just going to make it worse for him. He's been humiliated enough. The gay community should really reach out to this guy. It would certainly make them look good, as well as being the right thing to do.

Hopefully, he'll work through it and become a more reasonable person. Hell, they should have him as a guest on "Queer Eye for the (used to be) Straight Guy".

solvs
Nov 3, 2006, 02:42 AM
If the left starts crowing over this

I'm sorry, but I had to laugh at that. As if the Dems would actually do anything. Ever. :p

Anyway, yeah, me thinks he doth protested too much.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/images/photo-phelps-he's-gay.jpg

Dont Hurt Me
Nov 3, 2006, 07:21 AM
I hate to tell the republican christian flag wavers but Jesus would be a liberal if anything.


There are people using the christian base for their own power & greed just like this guy. I wonder how much $$$ he has in the bank from his followers? Bush is more of the same,say your a christian,play the game but yet bombs the crap out over 100,000 Iraqi's and they didnt even have the WMDs he was saying. Christians are for the taking buy the likes of Haggert and by the likes of Bush.
:rolleyes:

clevin
Nov 3, 2006, 07:50 AM
they don't have any family values whatsoever.

The gays, minorities, christians, middle-low class people who vote current GOP are idiots.

Dont Hurt Me
Nov 3, 2006, 08:06 AM
they don't have any family values whatsoever.

The gays, minorities, christians, middle-low class people who vote current GOP are idiots.I would use a broader Brush after the past 6 years about anyone voting Republican. America threw this party out 50 years ago for a reason, what we have is history repeating itself with the very same party doing the very same things they did years ago.

leekohler
Nov 3, 2006, 01:18 PM
Actually, scratch the previous post.

This man's obsessive and fanatical behaviour is obviously the result of his struggle with his own homosexuality. I probably wouldn't believe this myself, if I hadn't actually seen it happen before to someone else.

Sure, he's said some bad things, but it must have been pretty terrible to live like this. He's a gay guy, and this fact has probably tormented him for years. If the left starts crowing over this, it's just going to make it worse for him. He's been humiliated enough. The gay community should really reach out to this guy. It would certainly make them look good, as well as being the right thing to do.

Hopefully, he'll work through it and become a more reasonable person. Hell, they should have him as a guest on "Queer Eye for the (used to be) Straight Guy".

First, I'd like to drag the Ted haggard through the streets and spit on him. :)

Then after he begs for forgiveness, we can be nice to the guy. I'm sorry but, people like this need to pay some sort of consequences for what they've done to their own kind.

aquajet
Nov 3, 2006, 04:18 PM
It gets better... (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html)

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard, who resigned as one of the nation's top evangelical leaders, admitted Friday he had contacted male prostitute Mike Jones for a massage and bought drugs from him.

Haggard said he never had sex with Jones and never used the methamphetamine drug he bought.

...

Uh huh. Of course you didn't.

clevin
Nov 3, 2006, 04:22 PM
It gets better... (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html)
Uh huh. Of course you didn't.
now, only pigs believe what he said.
gay people, just like all other people, are much more honest than these rats

Queso
Nov 3, 2006, 04:31 PM
What a damaged man. Really does give credence to the theory of those who protest too much.

What next? Fred Phelps caught in a Bangkok strip bar with two 16 year olds?

Dont Hurt Me
Nov 3, 2006, 04:33 PM
Now the preacher is saying he only got a massage from this guy, and was buying methyphetamines or something or other. I wonder why he didnt get a "massage" from his wife? or just smoke a joint.:D

Don't panic
Nov 3, 2006, 04:55 PM
credence to the theory of those who protest too much.


'The hen that cackles is the one that laid the egg"

aquajet
Nov 3, 2006, 05:34 PM
I wonder why he didnt get a "massage" from his wife? or just smoke a joint.:D

Well, apparantly his wife doesn't have big, meaty hands and a buff and bearish body.

And I hear Tina can be much more fun to hang out with.

Chacala_Nayarit
Nov 6, 2006, 08:58 PM
I hate to tell the republican christian flag wavers but Jesus would be a liberal if anything.


There are people using the christian base for their own power & greed just like this guy. I wonder how much $$$ he has in the bank from his followers? Bush is more of the same,say your a christian,play the game but yet bombs the crap out over 100,000 Iraqi's and they didnt even have the WMDs he was saying. Christians are for the taking buy the likes of Haggert and by the likes of Bush.
:rolleyes:

The xian base for their power & greed? Sounds like The Crusades.

Queso
Nov 7, 2006, 05:24 AM
The xian base for their power & greed? Sounds like The Crusades.
Wasn't that when a religious leader wasted money and lives to invade an Arab land, only to actually achieve nothing but making his own side poorer and less-defended in the process?

I can't see the parallels at all ;)