Apple "Music" Event announced for the 28th!!!

[boskie]

Mac Central (http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/04/21/appleevent/)


Apple Computer Inc. informed MacCentral by special invitation Monday morning of an event the company will hold in San Francisco on Monday, April 28, 2003. While the invitation was not specific on exactly what the company would announce at the event, it did narrow down the possibilities.

The invitation says that Apple will have "announcements that will be music to your ears." Apple has several music products, but speculation over the past couple of weeks has focused on three things: a new iPod; a buyout by Apple of Universal Music; and a new music service by Apple.


I hope they release everything we expect and more!!!

WWWWOOOOOOOWWWWW!

[Tiauguinho]

OMG!!!! Im so excited with the possible iTunes 4 release and the rumored music service!! 7 days now until we know what apple has been doing!

[Le Big Mac]

For the first time in what, 2 months, we won't have to speculate that ipods will be released this Tueday. :D

Looking forward to placing my order on April 28.

[tYNS]

I am going to throw out my predicitions to what will be announced. They only make logical sense. Being that Apple is introducing the Event as "Music to our Ears". It will be just that. I whole event dedicated to music and products.



First, The Apple Music Service. This is obvious.
Secondly, New iPods.
Thirdly, iTunes 4 (AAC compatibility)
Fourthly, a scaled down version of iTunes for PC.

Yes, iTunes for PC. It would be completely stupid if they did not release iTunes for PC. There is too much at stake NOT to throw a PC variant of the iTunes application to potential customers. It would completely open up their new music service to everyone. On top of that, it would sell a HELL of a lot more iPod.

I am a true Apple user, but seriously, do you think Apple would be that stupid to limit there new Music service to such a TINY percent of the Computer Market? NO. They have been planning this service for a very long time now. The last release from the iTunes developement team was quite sometime ago. My feelings are they have been working on an amazing new revamp to the iTunes application to aid this new service.

I also possiblly see either iTunes having some type of web for music integration, or a full version of Safari being released with the new music service integrated for easy access to manage music.

These are my thoughts.

[Awimoway]

:rolleyes: Every time ThinkSecret has a big story, they're down for hours.

Could MacRumors maybe mirror their site when big stories come?

[richard5mith]

Originally posted by tYNS
Yes, iTunes for PC. It would be completely stupid if they did not release iTunes for PC. There is too much at stake NOT to throw a PC variant of the iTunes application to potential customers. It would completely open up their new music service to everyone. On top of that, it would sell a HELL of a lot more iPod.

I am a true Apple user, but seriously, do you think Apple would be that stupid to limit there new Music service to such a TINY percent of the Computer Market? NO. They have been planning this service for a very long time now. The last release from the iTunes developement team was quite sometime ago. My feelings are they have been working on an amazing new revamp to the iTunes application to aid this new service.

I think that yes, they will limit it to Apple users only. At least to start off with. It's all more reason to buy a Mac.

However, I do agree iTunes will have to be a major upgrade. There is no way the current version satisfies any real ability to buy music. An integrated browser using the Safari Webkit makes a lot of sense.

Any application has to have reviews, make it easy to hear samples, get recommendations based on past purchases etc etc. The current iTunes interface has no real way to offer any of that.

[whfsdude]

I wonder if they will broadcast this event. I looked at the quicktime page, nothing :?(

[NavyIntel007]

I guess that means I'll probably have a ton of music to re-encode into AAC. Darn...lol.

The only way a PC itunes would ever happen is if Apple only included it with an ipod or they sell it separately to PC users. I doubt that will ever happen.

[whfsdude]

Originally posted by NavyIntel007
The only way a PC itunes would ever happen is if Apple only included it with an ipod or they sell it separately to PC users. I doubt that will ever happen.

What if Apple was to sell music online? They would need a way to sell it. What if they decided not to sell if off a webpage but using software? i.e. Itunes.

So then if they were trying to make more money they would release iTunes for peecee.

[davy the bunny]

I love living 2 blocks away from my local Apple Store, I'll be knocking down the door. Anyway, I hope that if the music service is started up, that the network is good and that they price it reasonably. Jeez, I can't wait 'til next Monday!

[Floop]

I've been following the rumors since... November... holding off on buying an iPod.

PLEASE let there be new iPods introduced.

I know the Think Secret rumour, personally I hope though that there is a 40Gb model, that they don't change the button placement, and that AAC (MP4) becomes an option...

regards


Floop

[tYNS]

Originally posted by richard5mith
I think that yes, they will limit it to Apple users only. At least to start off with. It's all more reason to buy a Mac.

Believe it or not I believe that introducing iTunes on the PC is a better approach to gaining more market share.

I have many PC (L)using friends comment on how they wish they had a iLife type of suite available on PC.

Giving PC users the taste of an Apple iApp would be a good marketing strategy. This new Apple Music service is the perfect door to do so. It will presumably be the app that will be needed to open the window (no pun intended) to the Apple Music Service and iPod hardware. Not to mention actually give those (maybe) switchers that extra push to realize how much easier the Apple world can be.

Again, I must re-state the fact that it would be suicide for Apple to invest all this money and time going into the online music service without targeting the major market share.

I am not saying they need to give the whole Apple experience to a Windows (L)user. Just enough to get the interfacing between the iPod and the Music Service.

[areyouwishing]

I think iTunes for PC is a very realistic dream.

Look at how well Quicktime has been accepted on the PC, why not iTunes?

Does dell still sell ipods? Just think if iTunes was bundled with EVERY dell computer, instead of MusicMatch. How many people would be like, "this itunes interface is great, i want a whole OS like this, im going to switch!" Apple has really had to become a software company since being screwed by Moto with the G5, and this is just one step further in that direction, it will ultimately be good for apple.

[Le Big Mac]

Originally posted by NavyIntel007

The only way a PC itunes would ever happen is if Apple only included it with an ipod or they sell it separately to PC users. I doubt that will ever happen.

Right, but both approachs make sense. 1) bundle itunes software with windows ipods, for better functionality. 2) sell itunes to windows users as an alternative music organizer, for, say $29.

Both approaches will get PC users more acquainted with apple, and perhaps convince them to switch in the future. Does it undermine apple's computer sales? No, except for the few users who would buy a mac *only* for itunes, which can't be many. besides, Apple needs to make money on more than just computer sales -- if PC iTunes increased ipod sales, that would help the company.

Don't know if this will be the announcement, but a windows version of itunes makes sense to me.

[iSmell]

New iPods Tuesday.


Just wait...

[andrew0880]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the bulk of Apple's non-MacWorld product releases over the last couple of years (new iBooks, Xserve and iPods) taken place at the Apple campus. Having the event take place in SF makes me think something a bit bigger might be in store (and i would call the previous announcments pretty big).
Just a thought. I guess it would help if we knew the venue this announcement was begin made at.

[G4scott]

This is music to my ears. I just can't wait. I just they have an iPod software upgrade that allows older iPod's to play AAC files. It would be pretty senseless for them not to...

And this rumored communication device makes everything better!!!

I can't wait...

[Macmaniac]

"announcements that will be music to your ears."
Note the S, meaning multiple things!!! I bet its iPods and a music service score!!!

[frinky23]

Originally posted by Macmaniac
"announcements that will be music to your ears."
Note the S, meaning multiple things!!! I bet its iPods and a music service score!!!

Or maybe the event will be broadcasted in stereo!

[Snowy_River]

Oh, the timing is just perfect!

Sunday is my birthday, and Apple is announcing a birthday present for me the next day! I can't wait!! :D

[iJon]

sounds like this will be a great start to the week. from all the rumors it seems like we will see new ipods, itunes, and a new music service. i think what im most curious about is the price of the music service. all i can say is "it's about time"

iJon

[jeremy.king]

Weren't there rumors about a Wireless home appliance for stereo systems that would allow you to sync with iTunes on your Mac?

I wonder if anyone thinks this could the the announcement?

To me, releasing upgrades to the iPod (ie 40/60/80 Gb, etc...) would be undeserving of a such an event.

Just wanted to throw a wrench in the mix.

PS. Why is this site sooooooo slow today?

[alia]

Even CNN Money has posted an article about Apple's forthcoming announcement. It has some details I don't remember seeing elsewhere, such as that the music service will only be available for Mac users right now, but that a Windows version will be made available in the coming months. For the article, go here:

http://money.cnn.com/2003/04/21/technology/apple_music.reut/index.htm


:D

Alia

[suzerain]

Originally posted by alia
...the music service will only be available for Mac users right now...

I think this makes sense, because it allows Apple to basically beta test the service on a large scale, but not too large a scale.

Plus, it affords for a little "coveting of Macs" period, before they launch to the unwashed Windows users.

Also, if you consider the timing of this...say the Windows version came in 6 months. Theoretically, before then, we should see new Apple Power Macs (and possible PowerBooks) that are 64-bit, which will be much more compelling to potential switchers, so maybe Apple thinks this + new machines could lead to lots of switchers.

Or, maybe they just need time to get the Windows software ready. Also, to respond to earlier posts, I don't think it's automatic that Apple would have to release iTunes for Windows in order to include Windows users in this party; it's possible they could continue using third-party software (MusicMatch Jukebox), just like they do now.

All in all, this is all interesting...Apple is clearly realizing that they need to diversify in order to survive.

[tYNS]

Originally posted by richard5mith
I think that yes, they will limit it to Apple users only. At least to start off with. It's all more reason to buy a Mac.

Believe it or not I believe that introducing iTunes on the PC is a better approach to gaining more market share.

I have many PC (L)using friends comment on how they wish they had a iLife type of suite available on PC.

Giving PC users the taste of an Apple iApp would be a good marketing strategy. This new Apple Music service is the perfect door to do so. It will presumably be the app that will be needed to open the window (no pun intended) to the Apple Music Service and iPod hardware. Not to mention actually give those (maybe) switchers that extra push to realize how much easier the Apple world can be.

Again, I must re-state the fact that it would be suicide for Apple to invest all this money and time going into the online music service without targeting the major market share.

I am not saying they need to give the whole Apple experience to a Windows (L)user. Just enough to get the interfacing between the iPod and the Music Service.

[tYNS]

Originally posted by Macmaniac
"announcements that will be music to your ears."
Note the S, meaning multiple things!!! I bet its iPods and a music service score!!!

Wouldn't that be more like "Songs to your ears"?

[BillyShears]

From LoopRumors.com (http://www.looprumors.com):


New iPod Inforumor Revealed

As LoopRumors reported, Apple has been testing a new Music Service for downloading songs from the internet that will be launched alongside new iPods (see April 8th below) within two weeks.

A reader submits this article (http://www.looprumors.com/DSCN0664.JPG) which was published in a French financial newspaper called "La Tribune." It mentions Pascal Cagni, Vice President of Apple Europe. It's not the first time he makes such mistakes, as he announced iCal and iSync in advance. The necessary translation is as follows:

Apple, whose R&D investments increased from $300m in 1998 to $500m this year, is especially counting on the new version of their iPod digital player. It will feature a new format (AAC) more efficient than MP3, as well as the ability to download songs from the long awaited paying online music service. "We are discussing with all majors of the music business" is confirming Pascal Cagni, refusing to comment, but anyway noting that that the problem will be to fight "habits for free music". But Apple is anticipating this since this service "makes it very complicated to move copies from an iPod to another."

[adamberti]

Maybe the announcement is on a Monday because Jobs has managed to get it into a magazine again ( starts with a T and rhymes with IME) - and has to release it on Monday because the Magazine comes out on Monday.

I know I'll be watching their website Sunday evening...for those of you that remember the last mistake.

Another thought I had in relation to something I read somewhere else - Could Music stores (HMV, Music World) buy a couple of macs, let you pick your own music and burn a CD? (Assuming this is allowed with the service) Will Apple make this exclusivly for home use? I bet stores could make some serious coin if you could walk in, pay $3CDN base cost plus whatever the songs cost the store. And this would sure give Apple some serious advertising!

[tYNS]

Originally posted by suzerain
Also, if you consider the timing of this...say the Windows version came in 6 months. Theoretically, before then, we should see new Apple Power Macs (and possible PowerBooks) that are 64-bit, which will be much more compelling to potential switchers, so maybe Apple thinks this + new machines could lead to lots of switchers.


I must agree with this point.

Apple has one shot at winning over the general populous of PC users. To introduce a flawed and buggy service to a large market at first would really put off the possible PC switcher. Bad first impression.

Regardless though. It NEEDS to have a PC version if not now, in the near future. It woul dbe needed to maintain the Record Companies interest in supporting the Service.

3 percent of a "Desktop Computer Market" is peanuts to the Record Companies Eyes.


If a PC variant of iTunes does not appear with the Service premiere, it should appear around the same time of a new desktop (new processor) introduction. Especially a processor with 64bit technology. It would really make Apple shine and be the dangling carrot that Joe PC (L)user may need to switch.

[Billicus]

A version of iTunes for the PC would go against what Apple has done thus far. Because I've heard of many people that have switched to the Macintosh because of the iApps.:cool: I can hardly wait for Apple's announcement(s).:D This will give me even more reasons to convince my Aunt that Macs are better than Pc's!:p

[bchriqui]

Is there ANY chance at all that the new ipods could have an FM tuner built in?? That is the one thing that is missing from their current features line-up ...

benoit.

[Perceptes]

I am so excited about this it's just ridiculous. I feel like a little kid on Xmas morning. I wish I had $500 for a new iPod!!

[Abstract]

Oh geez, you guys really think there is going to be an iTunes for Windows? Without the iApps being exclusively Apple, buying a Mac instead of a PC loses it's appeal. If they charge for iTunes, say $10, that's one thing, but to give it away for free to Windows users? Why not develop a small, stripped down version of iTunes that basically acts as a downloader to allow PC's to use the service, but not all the features of a regular iTunes program?

Yes, Apple will get more people to use their new music service, but when you read a magazine that reviews the iMac, one of the things they ramble on about is the iTunes program that comes with iMacs. What are they going to say when they know they can get the same program for their PC? The presence of iTunes does not chalk up as a 'pro' for buying an Apple. It doesn't become a 'con', but at least it weighs in as a factor for switchers to buy a more expensive Apple machine that helps you do everything better. I say give PC's a program that enables you to use the service, and listen to mp3's much like Winamp does, but not actually give them a fully functional iTunes. Or give them iTunes and show them all the menu options, but not make all the cool stuff accessible to them. :)

[tYNS]

Originally posted by Abstract
Why not develop a small, stripped down version of iTunes that basically acts as a downloader to allow PC's to use the service, but not all the features of a regular iTunes program?

Dude, if you read my original message you would see I said the same thing..

"First, The Apple Music Service. This is obvious.
Secondly, New iPods.
Thirdly, iTunes 4 (AAC compatibility)
Fourthly, a scaled down version of iTunes for PC."


They need to have the iTunes app over to ensure that all functionality features of the new iTrax service work properly. If apple changes features of the service, PC users can be given updated software quicker. Again.. they can't screw around with this. It has to be working.. and it has to work perfectly... OR else Apple will be singing their own songs... namely a roy orbison tune... "Crying"...

Here is crossing fingers.

I hope they can pull this service off..

They are definitely creating the hype. that is a good start.

They better have some damn good promotion to get people to know about this service.. I mean LOTS of commercials.. a lot of magazine and poster ads.

Commercials should show and explain how easy the process is. Or people will just fluff it off.

I am speculating similar "switcher" type ads. Showing someone purchasing a song..

[MacQuest]

Originally posted by Abstract
...Why not develop a small, stripped down version of iTunes that basically acts as a downloader to allow PC's to use the service, but not all the features of a regular iTunes program?...

GENIUS!!:)


This idea:

1. Is groundbreaking

2. Bound to increase Apple's revenue and possibly computer marketshare

3. May entice Windows users to Switch, and...

4. HAS ALREADY BEEN PROPOSED!!


See, isn't it annoying to waste time re-reading something that was already posted earlier?

The same way that my post is reciting the same thing that "tYNS" post right above me says?


:rolleyes: Gawd, I hate it when people do this.

READ THE POSTS!!:mad:


BTW and back on topic, this will be awesome if it pans out this way.:D

[valypan]

Around january there were rumors of a finished app called Itraks which would feature music recording for the mac. I do not know what the odds are, but I do hope its released together with Itunes,Ipod and the music service. Then the music suite would be complete! :D

[dstorey]

Maybe it's monday instead of tuesday, not because of Time (though this maybe a reason) but because it's about music and new music is always released on a monday...well it is in england...something to do with the charts getting compiled on a sunday.

[MacQuest]

Originally posted by dstorey
...new music is always released on a monday...well it is in england...

Not here in the U.S.

New albums and often times movies [DVD/VHS] are released on Tuesdays.

Good guess though.:)

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by valypan
Around january there were rumors of a finished app called Itraks which would feature music recording for the mac. I do not know what the odds are, but I do hope its released together with Itunes,Ipod and the music service. Then the music suite would be complete! :D

I made the iTraks (iTrax?) connection in my mind when these rumors first appeared. I really hope Apple can create a good name for this new service. Keynote and Safari are wonderful....so I think they can do it. Then again, I think about iLife......:rolleyes:

[TheInevitable]

Originally posted by Snowy_River
Oh, the timing is just perfect!

Sunday is my birthday, and Apple is announcing a birthday present for me the next day! I can't wait!! :D

No way! My birthday is this Friday and I live in Arizona too! Does "snowy_river" mean you have ties to Australia? I am an Aussie too.

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by Perceptes
I am so excited about this it's just ridiculous. I feel like a little kid on Xmas morning. I wish I had $500 for a new iPod!!


I'm with you:D

[kallisti]

This is a link to a Reuters release discussing Apple's music service:

http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,58568,00.html[URL]

It has some tidbits by music industry execs and people who have seen previews of the service.

BTW, this is my first post. How exciting.

[sparks9]

Originally posted by Abstract
Oh geez, you guys really think there is going to be an iTunes for Windows? Without the iApps being exclusively Apple, buying a Mac instead of a PC loses it's appeal. If they charge for iTunes, say $10, that's one thing, but to give it away for free to Windows users? Why not develop a small, stripped down version of iTunes that basically acts as a downloader to allow PC's to use the service, but not all the features of a regular iTunes program?

Yes, Apple will get more people to use their new music service, but when you read a magazine that reviews the iMac, one of the things they ramble on about is the iTunes program that comes with iMacs. What are they going to say when they know they can get the same program for their PC? The presence of iTunes does not chalk up as a 'pro' for buying an Apple. It doesn't become a 'con', but at least it weighs in as a factor for switchers to buy a more expensive Apple machine that helps you do everything better. I say give PC's a program that enables you to use the service, and listen to mp3's much like Winamp does, but not actually give them a fully functional iTunes. Or give them iTunes and show them all the menu options, but not make all the cool stuff accessible to them. :)

You are truly evil!

[KLFloyd]

I for one am off Monday and can tell you I'll be watching the Apple page like a hawk. Can anyone speculate at a possible time? What times have these events been held at before?

Oh if only Apple would broadcast it on QuickTime!

[MacManDan]

Originally posted by Floop
I've been following the rumors since... November... holding off on buying an iPod.

PLEASE let there be new iPods introduced.


I too have been saving off since November .. this is a much awaited week!

I'm not too sure, though, about these ideas going around about a mini-iTunes for Windoze. Besides some benefits of providing their music service to a broader audience, what would convince them to take such a risky venture into the Windoze software world?

[pennymonger]

Purchasing Universal would potetinally harm a music download service. But what about this? I am not a business major but I see that many times a company is worth more split up than as a whole. Could Apple purchase Universal, then auction off its archives and artists to the remaining music companies? Apple could make a profit on its purchase and the remaining - I think I read 4 major music companies could increase their product lines. Your thoughts?