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Thomas Veil
Nov 7, 2006, 12:53 AM
FBI steps up probes of politicians, might run sting

By Greg Gordon
McClatchy Newspapers
Published November 6, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The new chief of the FBI's criminal division, which is swamped with public corruption cases, says the bureau is ramping up its ability to catch crooked politicians and might run an undercover sting on Congress.

FBI Assistant Director James Burrus called the bureau's public corruption program "a sleeping giant that we've awoken" and predicted the nation will see continued emphasis in that area "for many, many, many years to come."

So much evidence of wrongdoing is surfacing in the nation's capital that Burrus recently committed to adding a fourth 15- to 20-member public corruption squad to the FBI's Washington field office.

In the past year, former Republican Reps. Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California and Bob Ney of Ohio have pleaded guilty to corruption charges. FBI agents are investigating about a dozen other members of Congress, including as many as three senators. The Justice Department also is expected to begin seeking indictments soon after an FBI investigation of the Alaska Legislature.

If conditions warrant, Burrus said, he wouldn't balk at urging an undercover sting like the famed Abscam operation in the late 1970s in which a U.S. senator and six House members agreed on camera to take bribes from FBI agents posing as Arab sheiks.

"We look for those opportunities a lot," Burrus said, using words rarely heard at the bureau over the last quarter century. "I would do it on Capitol Hill. I would do it in any state legislature. If we could do an undercover operation, and it would get me better evidence, I'd do it in a second."

Philip Heymann, who oversaw the Abscam investigation as chief of the Justice Department's Criminal Division during the Carter administration, expressed surprise at the FBI's willingness to attempt another congressional sting after the outcry from Capitol Hill over Abscam.

"It shows courage at the FBI," said Heymann, now a criminal law professor at Harvard University. He said he concluded, after watching a recent public television documentary and listening to experts, that a single FBI sting "might result in very large numbers of prosecutions."

But even without an undercover operation, Heymann and other observers say they have been pleased with the GOP-controlled Justice Department's willingness to pursue old-fashioned investigations, even if they hurt congressional Republicans in Tuesday's elections.

Nationally over the last year, 600 agents worked 2,200 public corruption cases, resulting in 650 arrests, 1,000 indictments and 800 convictions, Burrus said.

"Operation Rainmaker," the FBI's broad investigation of a Washington lobbying ring, already has led to a handful of convictions, including Ney's guilty plea last month. The inquiry was one reason for the resignation last year of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), who also faces state campaign finance charges.

The FBI also appears to be stepping up its use of electronic surveillance and has conducted stings of state politicians. Agents secretly taped Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) before finding $90,000 in his freezer during a raid last May. Cell phones were wiretapped for four months in an investigation of Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.), government sources say. Neither man has been charged with a crime.

In "Operation Tennessee Waltz," 10 Tennessee state officials, including five current and former legislators, have been prosecuted in a scheme in which hidden cameras whirred as FBI undercover agents offered payoffs in return for help for a dummy company. Burrus said some targeted Tennessee legislators were moving so quickly that "we were actually having to discuss how we were going to slow it down" so that bills aiding the phony firm didn't become law.Trib (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0611060217nov06,1,7622835.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed)

Isn't that sad -- by which I mean, absolutely pathetic -- that we need for something like this to be done?

I applaud Burrus' efforts (and wonder how long he'll keep his job). OTOH, if he's thinking about running a sting, why notify the intended marks ahead of time?

Gonna get interesting if this actually happens. Probably gonna catch more Republicans than Democrats, too, simply because corruption seems to be more "acceptable" on their side of the aisle...but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they nail some Dems too.



solvs
Nov 7, 2006, 02:17 AM
but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they nail some Dems too.

Probably, but that doesn't make as good a defense as it once did, particularly when the corruption on one side is accepted while it's reviled on the other.

trebblekicked
Nov 7, 2006, 02:22 AM
i don't care what party they're from. purge them all. the dems and the gop. bust everyone you have a case against, and let the courts sort them out. send a signal that this has gone too far, and drop the hammer.

Dont Hurt Me
Nov 7, 2006, 07:40 AM
As long as the FBI doesnt become a tool for this administration or any one party I say go for it. Congress is one of the most corrupt places on this Earth. But then again if voters were just paying attention they would throw all those guys out during the elections but they dont. They reelect the same Senators over & over & over.

Queso
Nov 7, 2006, 07:46 AM
About time. Too many fingers in the till right now. As the public don't seem to care about reigning it in, let the FBI make a few examples. Burst open the nest.

Desertrat
Nov 8, 2006, 10:39 AM
I'll play the ultimate cynic: If you got all the special-interest toadies out of the Congress, there'd be nobody left besides Ron Paul. I guess you could expand that to "out from inside the Beltway".

In Devil's Advocate fairness, though, when you figure how much money it takes to successfully run for election, how can they be other than toadies?

Anybody seen how much this particular campaign has totalled up?

'Rat

skunk
Nov 8, 2006, 10:42 AM
reigning it inIs that when you pull on the reigns? :confused:

skunk
Nov 8, 2006, 10:43 AM
In Devil's Advocate fairness, though, when you figure how much money it takes to successfully run for election, how can they be other than toadies?Precisely. The system is optimised for corruption.

solvs
Nov 9, 2006, 01:47 AM
Anybody seen how much this particular campaign has totalled up?

I'm gonna guess, too much.

Thomas Veil
Nov 9, 2006, 05:50 AM
I...how can they be other than toadies?

Anybody seen how much this particular campaign has totalled up?

'RatI'd've said "prostitutes" rather than toadies, but whatever. :D

As far as the cost, I shudder to think of it. In the last weeks I kept reading articles about how the Dems or the Republicans were throwing 3 million into this race or 2 million into that one, all over the United States. And I couldn't help thinking, "You can publish what these guys stand for in the newspapers and on the internet for a helluva lot less, get something more truthful rather than slanderous, and you could use all that money for something like fixing up New Orleans, feeding Darfur refugees, or something else a lot more noble than trying to convince your constituents that your opponent is a Communist who wants to let men marry goats.

What do you think Jesus thinks of that kind of horrible waste of money? :mad:

Ugg
Nov 9, 2006, 10:54 AM
As far as the cost, I shudder to think of it. In the last weeks I kept reading articles about how the Dems or the Republicans were throwing 3 million into this race or 2 million into that one, all over the United States. And I couldn't help thinking, "You can publish what these guys stand for in the newspapers and on the internet for a helluva lot less, get something more truthful rather than slanderous,


Wasn't there a report last week that said newspaper readership is down across the board, and especially amongst the younger set? Whether we like it or not, this country is a nation of TV addicts.

Thomas Veil
Nov 9, 2006, 03:25 PM
I'm not so sure. A fair number of young people aren't watching much TV, and what they're watching tends to be stuff like MTV or The Daily Show...hardly where Republicans (or Dems, for that matter) tend to run a lot of ads. Younger people tend to get their news from the internet, which is why I mentioned it.

Mal
Nov 10, 2006, 09:26 AM
This sounds like a good thing to me. There's so many corrupt politicians, and there are plenty in both parties. I think sometimes though, the Republican party is an easier one to hide in because there's a clear party line for the most part, and as long as you toe the party line properly, no one calls you on anything. We had a horrible Republican senator here in FL that got reelected because we're a heavily Republican district, and no one even bothered to look at him and realize he'd be worse than the Democrat, even from the Republican perspective. I'm a Republican, btw, but I voted for the Dem in that race. I hope this either exposes a lot of the corruption, or has the unlikely result of revealing there's not as much as we thought. If they run this, I'll bet that a large number of Senators have to resign and we'll be having impromptu elections all over the country, which could be a very good thing. In fact, I'd love for enough politicians from both parties to be fingered in some undercover thing like this for people to completely lose all trust in both and for a new party or parties to be able to gain some power. It's about time we got rid of both the current parties, since they don't do any good anyways.

jW

mkrishnan
Nov 10, 2006, 09:30 AM
*cough cough* I heard that there's a white house down on Pennsylvania that is a crack house. *cough cough*

Dont Hurt Me
Dec 8, 2006, 02:14 PM
Most these guys are crooks & Lawyers, even today we have a bunch of Republicans finding out that a bunch of republicans did no wrong concerning Mark Foley and chasing pages. So Republicans investigating Republicans? Does anyone have any doubt no one did wrong? Please This do nothing Congress sucks, I hope the door kicks them in the a.. on the way out.