GoTM Gear of War or Zelda: TP ?

[Ringo]

Who will win ?

I go toward Zelda. :) GoW looks awesome thought.

[Chone]

Yeah my money is on Zelda.

[sixstorm]

Zelda can be game of the month . . . GoW will be Game of the YEAR.

Most people who don't think GoW isn't that great or whatever hasn't played the game yet. I grabbed my copy today and I can't stop thinking about how awesome it is. No video online or opinion can give you a good impression, you just have to play it for yourself.

Sorry, but I'm not a huge Nintendo fan. I've been waiting for GoW since the X360 release.

[n-abounds]

I think the consensus will be Zelda. Nintendo's Zeldas have been unchallenged for game of the year basically any year it comes out. And this is supposedly the best Zelda ever. Those IGN impressions cleared away all the worries people had for it.

Saying that, Gears of War looks daym pretty and makes me wish I could afford an xbox360.

[GFLPraxis]

I think this is going to be a split vote even with the major media sites; some'll go GoW and some Zelda.

I'd say Zelda, GoW as runner up. I don't intend to purchase GoW however; I simply am not a fan of gorefests. The game looks incredible though.

GoW has better multiplayer (since Zelda has none, and GoW's looks amazing); Zelda has better single player (70+ hour storyline, vs cliffhanger ending? No contest).

[sikkinixx]

hard choice because there are already 6.5+ million who have a 360 and i would guess a lot will get this game, making for huge sales which looks good for whoever selects game of the month. However, Zelda is Zelda. No matter who good or bad, it is GOING to be get a good review, and it is GOING to sell. If it was say a 9/10, because it has "Zelda" on it, it goes to a 9.5. But, it looks amazing so it might not need the franchise bonus points. Plus if Wii sells a million or 2 units, half those people have to be buying Zelda with it! More big numbers for the big N.

[SamIchi]

GOTM? More like GOTY. I'd say they both qualify, but Zelda will definitely take it. I mean, it's Zelda!

[raggedjimmi]

GoW hasn't had 100% gleaming reviews (high 90's)? well, it isn't as good as OoT, and folks are saying TP is better than OoT. At least that's what logic is doing.

[Piarco]

As I haven't played either game I couldn't possible comment without bias comrade.



But GoW is more my thing - if we are talking uninformed opinions here.

[raggedjimmi]

Most people who don't think GoW isn't that great or whatever hasn't played the game yet. I grabbed my copy today and I can't stop thinking about how awesome it is. No video online or opinion can give you a good impression, you just have to play it for yourself.

That'd be nice if the 360 wasn't £400 (360+GoW+VGA+WiFi) / $763 :D

[MacRumorUser]

This is the stupidest poll EVER.

Your comparing

Apples & Oranges.


Both will be excellent games, totaly different genres and two different formats, why do they have to compete ? Both are completely different so what's the point in a stupid poll like this.

I mean come on, its so tragic. Two fantastic games released in one month, how awful for gamers is that.. :rolleyes:

Besides as GOW is the only game to be released in November in all teritories, Zelda is not released till December in Europe and Japan so that nullifies your poll anyway.


Zelda will the be RPG / Adventure of the year
Gears of War will be the Action / Shooter of the year.

Full stop.

SHOCK ANNOUNCEMENT : YOUR ALLOWED TO BUY BOTH :eek:


GoW hasn't had 100% gleaming reviews (high 90's)? well, it isn't as good as OoT, and folks are saying TP is better than OoT. At least that's what logic is doing.

Jimmi fanboy comment error check. Seriously come on, its getting 94-100% in reviews, and why compare to OoT, hate to tell you but Twilight Princess is not OoT.... Dont post comparisons of scores until TP is reviewed otherwise it's just comes across as stupid bias.

[raggedjimmi]

Jimmi fanboy comment error check. Seriously come on, its getting 94-100% in reviews,
which is almost as good as OoT, it might even beat Quake 1!

and why compare to OoT, hate to tell you but Twilight Princess is not OoT....
According (http://wii.gamedaily.com/game/features/?gameid=5333&id=447) to initial (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=3&cId=3154917) reviews it's better.

Dont post comparisons of scores until TP is reviewed otherwise it's just comes across as stupid bias.

You mean as stupid as posting a thread predicting which game will get GotY with one not coming out till next month? :rolleyes:

[takao]

gonna be close but Zelda simply has the better chances

we will see in one month... if GOW wins GOTY then it's really close

GOTY on xbox 360 .. well that's a given

[MacRumorUser]

You mean as stupid as posting a thread predicting which game will get GotY with one not coming out till next month? :rolleyes:

exactly ;) I have already said this poll was stupid.

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and in regards to OoT...

furthermore, any reviewer will tell you that you can not compare a review score from 5 -10 years ago with a game released today. That's utter nonsense.

Technical boundries have changed and the bar has been risen or redifined in the years past. A game that gets 94% today is not necesserily better or worse than a game that got 95% 8 years ago.

Times have changed and the things industry has developed and so have most reviewers with them, most people dont live like its 1996 anymore.

So stop comparing a game released in 2006 with a RPG's review score from 1996, that's just silly.. period.

I remember horrible horrace on the spectrum got 98% in one review back in the day, are you telling me that Mario 64 which got 96% in CVG at the time is a worse game. No..... comparing the two is stupid, and so is your comparison.

[raggedjimmi]

exactly ;) I have already said this poll was stupid.

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and in regards to OoT...

furthermore, any reviewer will tell you that you can not compare a review score from 5 -10 years ago with a game released today. That's utter nonsense.

Technical boundries have changed and the bar has been risen or redifined in the years past. A game that gets 94% today is not necesserily better or worse than a game that got 95% 8 years ago.

Times have changed and the things industry has developed and so have most reviewers with them, most people dont live like its 1996 anymore.

So stop comparing a game released in 2006 with a RPG's review score from 1996, that's just silly.. period.

I remember horrible horrace on the spectrum got 98% in one review back in the day, are you telling me that Mario 64 which got 96% in CVG at the time is a worse game. No..... comparing the two is stupid, and so is your comparison.

Comparison isn't just numbers. It's a 10 year old game that people still say is the best game ever, a game that is universally encompassing, a series that spans 2 decades and has more boundless respect than any other video game series.

[MacRumorUser]

Comparison isn't just numbers. It's a 10 year old game that people still say is the best game ever, a game that is universally encompassing, a series that spans 2 decades and has more boundless respect than any other video game series.

But you were comapring a Action / FPS Shooter with it. That's what is stupid.

It's like comparing horses with boats.

Originally Posted by raggedjimmi
GoW hasn't had 100% gleaming reviews (high 90's)? well, it isn't as good as OoT.

[Kalns]

I have a 360 and will soon have Gears, but Ocarina of Time is still quite possibly the best gaming experience I've ever had and for that reason I vote for Zelda. I hope by next year I'll be able to get a Wii and play it.

[sixstorm]

Comparison isn't just numbers. It's a 10 year old game that people still say is the best game ever, a game that is universally encompassing, a series that spans 2 decades and has more boundless respect than any other video game series.

Wow, a lot of Nintendo fans here. Well jimmi, that's the problem. Zelda would prolly win between the two just because it's such an old ass series and it's popular to like Zelda/love the original. Remember Grandma's Boy? "I beat Legend of Zelda before I could walk!" Come on, that's pathetic. If all this were true, the video game industry needs to shut down now because nobody can make a game to beat any Zelda game; what is the point? Nintendo will be the only company to make a video game anymore and they will only make Zelda sequels/prequels for the rest of our days here on Earth. Give me a break.

GoW isn't even 24 hrs old yet and people wanna bash it over a game like Zelda. Even if it is a so-called "gorefest" (which it's really not if you actually play the game), go try it. The graphics are unbelievable and the gameplay is awesome. I liked Zelda OoT, but there are many games out there that beat it up and down like a red-headed stepchild.

[jdechko]

I voted Zelda. I'll do my best to say why.

To clarify, I have no experience with GoW, and likely will never play it. I'm somewhat bored with FPS games, and, at this point in my life, I won't ever seriously go back to them, with the possible exception of Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon games, but there's a lot of strategy mixed in those games in addition to the FPS aspects. When I say FPS, I'm more referring to the run-and-gun type games. I know GoW is supposed to require more strategy duck-cover-shoot-etc, but I just don't see it being as much strategy based as R6 and GR games.

Anyway, back to Zelda. I find that most of the games I'm playing now are either party games, action/adventure, or platformer games. The Zelda series has always been guided by an awesome story which translates into an immersive adventure. The deep storyline is rivaled by few games now (RPGs usually deliver a great story as well-but then with a slow play, you kinda have to), and I believe that with 70+ hours of gameplay (I'm a slow gamer, so it'll be more like 100+ for me :) ) the story will be an extremely in-depth one and immersive as well.

Aside from the differences of genre, length and level of immersion, I think that both games will look stunning. GoW will have HD, but looking at the Zelda screens and judging by what it is, I have to say that TP will look equally stunning. The same with sound: sure GoW will be in 5.1, and TP will be in PLII, but the Wii has the added bonus of the Wiimote speaker, which should add in some extra points if they were being rated.

Overall, I know that both games will do very well for their respective gamer parties, but for vote, it comes down to genre and level of immersion, which is why TP is my game of the month/year.

[MacRumorUser]

which is why TP is my game of the month/year.

but it's not out. What if.... it turns out to be a small bit of a turkey.
(I hope and I am fairly confident it won't - but there is still that chance)

The point being both games are equally as great.

If both were RPG's then you could argue the toss between them, but they are completely seperate entities.

As I already pointed out if your talking GOTM.

Regardless it has to be GOW simply because Zelda is not out till December in Europe & Japan. But I still think the poll is a stupid waste of an idea.

[jdechko]

The point being both games are equally as great.

Thus the reason why I included and italicized the word my. :) It's just my opinion, just as is the title "Game of the Month" or "Game of the Year" are collective opinions. Often the reviews have some sort of objectivity in them, it's what they're there for. But one can't help throw in some personal subjectivity based on personal preferences. GoW probably is a great game... look at all the people who love it. I won't argue with them, but it's just not my cup of tea.

[sixstorm]

GoW does involve a lot of strategy. Maybe not in SP (you don't always give orders during the game), but definitly in MP. I was playing last night on Live and when everyone didn't stick together and didn't have a gameplan, we lost. But when I finally gave orders, we won because we had a strategy.

BTW, it's not a FPS. :D

[jdechko]

Yeah, after I watched the latest IGN weekly with the GoW review, I figured that one out. Please substitute "shooter" for FPS. Also, I didn't mean to imply that there was no strategy in GoW, I just don't see it as being as important in GoW as it is in the other games I'd mentioned.

In any case, I was trying to give reasons based on my observations and preferences rather than just making some remarks that could be construed as fanboyism. :D

[raggedjimmi]

Wow, a lot of Nintendo fans here. Well jimmi, that's the problem. Zelda would prolly win between the two just because it's such an old ass series and it's popular to like Zelda/love the original. Remember Grandma's Boy? "I beat Legend of Zelda before I could walk!" Come on, that's pathetic. If all this were true, the video game industry needs to shut down now because nobody can make a game to beat any Zelda game; what is the point? Nintendo will be the only company to make a video game anymore and they will only make Zelda sequels/prequels for the rest of our days here on Earth. Give me a break.

GoW isn't even 24 hrs old yet and people wanna bash it over a game like Zelda. Even if it is a so-called "gorefest" (which it's really not if you actually play the game), go try it. The graphics are unbelievable and the gameplay is awesome. I liked Zelda OoT, but there are many games out there that beat it up and down like a red-headed stepchild.
The gameplay is awesome? So what do you do, I'd love to know. The trailers have shown me a game where you attack, move forward, hide/take cover, attack, repeat. Only in shooter fashion the only variation is what weapon (recently the style seems to be for devs to make fewer weapons?) against enemies that simply get stronger throughout the game. Graphics? Well they're going to entertain me loads :rolleyes: I've already got 1/2 the GoW experience already then with video trailers.

I suppose that's why I like games like HL2 more. Instead of going in gung-ho (because yes, only 1 man can save the world :D but he needs the biggest baddest gun in town), it's more of a quiet revolution. Meh. I just can't stand the gung-ho style, always found it the most non-believable form of storyline.

[sikkinixx]

Zelda and awesome story don't belong in the same sentence. That's just not it's bag baby.


Japan doesn't get GoW until next year so we all have to wait till then to see which one gets goty ;) But that won't matter because we all know what the Japanese will play ;)


^ And jimmi, because aliens coming to earth and conquering while a little man warping a scientist in and out of time and setting him loose to slaughter some aliens is VERY believable... ;)

[raggedjimmi]

Zelda and awesome story don't belong in the same sentence. That's just not it's bag baby.


Japan doesn't get GoW until next year so we all have to wait till then to see which one gets goty ;) But that won't matter because we all know what the Japanese will play ;)


^ And jimmi, because aliens coming to earth and conquering while a little man warping a scientist in and out of time and setting him loose to slaughter some aliens is VERY believable... ;)

I didn't say I liked the actual story did I (short of it's mysteries, same as LOST to me)? I just said it's a little more believable than "only 1 man can save the day with his big gun and nobody else can do it" which is so tired it's untrue, any mystery? any elegence? nah, we're trying to entertain teenagers! When did that plotline get old? the 80's? Even Microsoft's other cashcow has virtually the same story (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/halo2/).

[MacRumorUser]

Oh i don't like the story (short of it's mysteries, same as LOST to me) but "only 1 man can save the day with his big gun and nobody else can do it" is so tired it's untrue. When did that get old? the 80's? Even Microsoft's other cashcow has virtually the same story (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/halo2/).


What and the story of 1 male character who has to save the world from darkness and save a captured princess is sooooo new.... ;) :p

They've been milking that storyline with both Zelda & Mario series for years.....


slighty hypocracy in your reasoning. pot kettle black.

[FleurDuMal]

Meh. I just can't stand the gung-ho style, always found it the most non-believable form of storyline.

Why does the story have to be believable? :confused:

I love almost all the Mario games, but I doubt there's some Italian plumber out there saving a princess with the aid of a green dinosaur.

[Abulia]

Why does the story have to be believable? :confused:

I love almost all the Mario games, but I doubt there's some Italian plumber out there saving a princess with the aid of a green dinosaur.
Hahaha! :D

Poor jimmi. :(

Oh, and I agree with others. Perhaps the dumbest thread EVAR...or at least the most transparent designed to start a flamewar.

Carry on! </me grabs popcorn and has a seat>

[jdechko]

What and the story of 1 male character who has to save the world from darkness and save a captured princess is sooooo new.... ;) :p

They've been milking that storyline with both Zelda & Mario series for years.....


slighty hypocracy in your reasoning. pot kettle black.

While I agree that the Zelda & Mario games are essentially driven by modifications of the same plot, Halo and GoW aren't the only "Alien Invasion is thwarted by dude with a big gun". This seems to be the current cookie-cutter theme that developers are going with (that and WWII). There's just not a ton of original IP development going on anywhere, really, on all fronts (all consoles and PC). I'm not saying there aren't any new IP's, just that they're grossly overshadowed by the massive amount of alien invasion and WWII shooters.

[MacRumorUser]

While I agree that the Zelda & Mario games are essentially driven by modifications of the same plot, Halo and GoW aren't the only "Alien Invasion is thwarted by dude with a big gun". This seems to be the current cookie-cutter theme that developers are going with (that and WWII). There's just not a ton of original IP development going on anywhere, really, on all fronts (all consoles and PC). I'm not saying there aren't any new IP's, just that they're grossly overshadowed by the massive amount of alien invasion and WWII shooters.

true, this is an unfortunate side effect of the industry maturing and becoming mainstream.

developers do not like to take risks. Just like the movie industry and music industry.

expect most things to become formaliac, especially whilst they keep bringing in the cash.

revolution and new gaming experiences dont necesserily sell, OKAMI is probably the real GOTY as it's a completely original iP and a total marvel on all levels (technical, gameplay, audio, vision) and yet it's sold relativly poorly in comparison to crap like Madden 07.

So you cant blame developers for a lack of creativity, why should they bother if most purchasers dont.

Same reason we have 10 frigging years of essentialy the same Pokemon game over and over.....

[raggedjimmi]

This thread is a joy.

I never said Zelda's story was great BUT TP has something going for it that other Zelda's haven't - a different storyline. Zelda and Ganon play different roles than before which means anything could happen here on.
(though actually all Zelda's have different storylines yada etc)
GoW is just another formulatic game. Halo 2, Resistance share an identical storyline save for character names and enemies. What will the point in Halo 3 be with this game out? Who needs Resistance AND GoW?

If the gameplay isn't there then the story better match up. But GoW is so formulatic in gameplay and story, it just does the formula to a better standard than most games.

[SamIchi]

:D You guys are gettin' your panties in a bunch for nothin. Look, the thread is a simple topic with a simple poll. I don't think it's stupid. The OP asked for an opinion on what game you think might take GOTM. It's a simple concept people. They are both good candidates. Stop with the "You're comparing apples to oranges" crap. Yea they are totally different genres, but it's about overall game. Kinda like the album of the year, comparing one genre to another isn't all that uncommon.

[sikkinixx]

Who needs Resistance AND GoW?



Because Resistance is made by those dudes who made Ratchet and Clank, I loved those games so much. Many of the previews says its a FPS Ratchet and Clank (ie. tons of fun to use and unique weapons) Add some pretty nice (albeit a little bland colourwise) graphics, 7.1 sound and 40 person multiplayer (although it uses its own friends list etc...nice one Sorny) and you have the making of a fun game.

[FleurDuMal]

Well, I'm gonna come out and say it: I've never played a Zelda game before (well, apart from for about 10 minutes on a friends SNES many years ago).

However, I will be buying it for the Wii if/when I get one. I still contend that Football Manager series has the best storyline of any game ever :o :p

[raggedjimmi]

:D You guys are gettin' your panties in a bunch for nothin. Look, the thread is a simple topic with a simple poll. I don't think it's stupid. The OP asked for an opinion on what game you think might take GOTM. It's a simple concept people. They are both good candidates. Stop with the "You're comparing apples to oranges" crap. Yea they are totally different genres, but it's about overall game. Kinda like the album of the year, comparing one genre to another isn't all that uncommon.

Aye, I think next time, instead of providing my opinions on the matter I'll just give one word answers :D Might save on the keyboard a little!

[MacRumorUser]

Aye, I think next time, instead of providing my opinions on the matter I'll just give one word answers :D Might save on the keyboard a little!

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or you could resist editing, that would save time ;) :p :D

[raggedjimmi]

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or you could resist editing, that would save time ;) :p :D

Actually, if we're going to be pedantic about it. I congratulated GoW on being the first 360 game to get above 90 on metacritic. But then I realised it wasn't the first so I removed it.
May I go out to play now?

[MacRumorUser]

May I go out to play now?

Chill my man, I was only having a laugh, not being facetious, hence the ;) :p :D

You know I think your deadly sound my good man :)

[GFLPraxis]

I'm not saying there aren't any new IP's, just that they're grossly overshadowed by the massive amount of alien invasion and WWII shooters.

And sometimes both. *points to Resistance: Fall of Man, a WWII alien invasion shooter*

[Tommyg117]

Tough choice. My money's on Zelda. I'm having a hell of a fun time with Gears Of War multiplayer right now though. Some of the best I've ever played.