Apple Accounting Software?

[MacRumors]

SpyMac claims (http://www.spymac.com/comments.php?id=374_0_5_0_C) that Apple is working on a home accounting application:

Apple is said to be completing development on a new home accounting application that will be sold and bundled with other office products.


The application is expected "later this year", and is the first word of such an application coming from Apple.

A revamp of AppleWorks has been rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/03/20030317185032.shtml) for some time - with indications that Apple acquired part of the team (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030115012203.shtml) responsible for GoBe Productive - an office suite for BeOS/Linux/Windows.

[howard]

wow that would rock. i use quicken now..which i hate. so i actually mostly use just a spreadsheet.

[AngusB]

Finally,

I don't like quicken and have been stuck using MS Money through Virtual PC!

I'll take it in a heartbeat!

Angus

[Cecret]

I hope this is true. Quicken just doesn't work for me. I would love a simple iapp to manage my checkbook.

[jrv3034]

This can only be a good thing.

Let's hope SpyMac gets it right this time...

[tcmcam]

Isn't a member of Apple's board the president of Intuit? If so, you really think he'd be happy about having Apple create a Quicken competitor?

Grant you, Quicken on the Mac is pretty weak, the interface is very clumsy.

Apple would have to work to support all the electronic banking capabilities that Quicken and MS Money have.

Just a thought....

[nuckinfutz]

Intuit has a member on Apples Board(Charles Campbell I believe)

and I just don't see Apple developing something that would compete with Intuit.

I'd like to see it but I just don't believe it would happen.

[AhmedFaisal]

The update is still AppleWorks 6.2.4. Anyone know when they will make an update available?
Cheers,

Ahmed

[deejemon]

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[impierced]

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
Intuit has a member on Apples Board(Charles Campbell I believe)

and I just don't see Apple developing something that would compete with Intuit.

I'd like to see it but I just don't believe it would happen.

Yeah and QuickBooks Pro is just such a stellar product. Not to mention Intuit has been very quick on releasing Mac products ever since Campbell got on the Apple board years ago...

If you couldn't tell this is S-A-R-C-A-S-M!!!

[neutrino23]

I vote against him every time I get a proxy statement for the Apple stock I own. Not that it has done any good.

[noel4r]

please let this be true. i use quicken that came with OS X and i find it very clumsy and not user-friendly.

[Yarddog]

I seem to remember that Intuit has been trying to drop Quicken for 3 or 4 years now. My understanding is that Apple, in order to get them to keep developing it, put some of its own programmers at Intuit to defray some of the costs of Quicken Mac development. If this is really true, Apple might just be trying to bring quicken mac development in house. I guess they would have to call it something else, but it might still be quicken with a brushed metal interface.

I would hope that they get pocket quicken working with it. I use that a lot.

[Vonnie]

One of the features will be "remaining time", where you can select "Powerbook 12" with superdrive". It will then tell you in how many months you will be able to buy it.

It will also have basic artificial intelligence, suggesting stuff like "if you just eat bread the next couple of months, you'll be able to get that powerbook two months sooner!"

[AhmedFaisal]

... since the link to 6.2.4 Upgrade is dead.
Cheers,

Ahmed

[ldjessee]

Hello,

If Apple is serious about increasing its appeal to customers, it needs to expand and improve at the same time.

I see projects like the X-series, iLife, shake, FCP, logic, and now the productivity applications as the stepping stones Apple is taking to get there.

Just my thoughts.

[pilotgi]

So what if this competes with Intuit products?

I think it's a good idea for Apple to develop their own software.

[Freg3000]

This sounds like a good idea. It sort of rounds out a future Apple office suite. I just hope Apple doesn't alienate the companies that actually [try to] support their platform.

[eric_n_dfw]

My wife, who is now a full time mom, just took over doing the finances and complains daily about how slow and buggy Quicken 2003 is. She is about to get the Windows version or MS Money and run them on an old Window box we have sitting here via Timbuktu.

I hope this is true, and I hope is makes everyon realize how lackluster Quicken 2003 on OS X is.

[bperkins]

Originally posted by Yarddog
I seem to remember that Intuit has been trying to drop Quicken for 3 or 4 years now.

I just received and email yesterday from Intuit about beta testing the upcoming Quicken 2004 (Dakota) So it does look as if they will release a new version of Quicken. I would much rather beta test Apple's if it is coming. I use both Quicken and Quickbooks, and IMO they are both horrible in the Mac environment. Apple should do a Pro and Home version of the software.

[york2600]

This is a totally off topic statement, but I was reminded of it by the post above about voting against Mr. Intuit on the proxy statements. BTW: I've never thought of this, but I really should be doing that too. Anyways. Is anyone with Apple stock planning on going to the meeting? I've never been to one and I was wondering if I should use my 100 shares to get something.

-Tim

[bbarnhart]

I used to call Quicken about minor bugs they had ( I think it was Quicken 98 ). They never fixed them in the updates. I bought Quicken 2000 because they really were plugging the 'fact' that they had added 20 or 30 new features. None of these 'features' were useful and I returned it. I did get a chance to beta 2002. For being a beta tester, they sent me a free copy of 2002 (still with bugs from Quicken 98).

Apple may be showing its colors as a software company. You will buy the Mac because of the software. I just hope that iCheckbook will be much better that iCal.

[allpar]

I was about to buy accounting software, but I am very glad Apple will maybe be doing something along those lines. I'd happily pay for their solution in the hopes that, unlike HyperCard, QuickTime Pro, OpenDoc, etc., it actually gets supported and updated.

Which reminds me...hey, Apple, time for HyperCard X! Oops, forgot, Macs are the "computers for UNIX nerds with lots of cash," not "computers for the rest of us" now...

[FelixDerKater]

Hopefully this program will be compatible with the Quicken or MS Money file format.

[Windowlicker]

if apple can make it universal, then it'll have market and it would kick quicken's ass. I for example live in Finland and here all the accounting softwares are for PC.. that blows. A native, working mac app would kick ass!

[Foxer]

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
Intuit has a member on Apples Board(Charles Campbell I believe)

and I just don't see Apple developing something that would compete with Intuit.

I'd like to see it but I just don't believe it would happen.

Alright then... what can be done if a director is hindering Apple's product development.

Business Law I. In his capacity as a member of Apple's Board, Campbell (and all the others) must act in the best interests of Apple. To be honest, boards of directors have VERY little to do with operations (by law), and chiefly serve to protect the shareholders' interests by overseing the officers (the only people who can, by law, act for a company).

If an officer acts in manner contrary to the best interests of the company, or fails to act, then the Board is supposed to handle it - as the only body that can remove an officer. If the Board fails to act, shareholders can file suit on behalf of the company (called a derivative suit, a very strange cat on which I wrote a very boring paper) to compel the board to act. If you want to remove a director, something only the shareholders can do, a special meeting can be called to act on the motion after various hurdles are jumped.

So in short, if Apple passes up an opportunity they are aware of and it can be shown that this was because of a Diretor's private position, the board or a lawsuit can comple action. If the DIrector himself is exerting impoper influence (or you just don't like the way he looks), he can be removed by the shareholders.

Now what was the question again?

[Centris 650]

This was mentioned some weeks/months ago that Apple was looking to move to some accounting areas. Does anyone remember where? MacDailyNews? MacCentral? Anyone remember seeing it?

Anyhoo...
My wife is a CPA who is trained and certified with QuickBooks Pro for Windows. She has a bunch of clients that she has to set up to use QBs so she can use that info during tax season. She had planned to move to a Mac with the new QB for Mac was released. However, as you may or may not know, Quickbooks for Mac is lacking. With no way to transfer files from her mac to her clients pc it's really a waste of hd space! Intuit has really dropped the ball on the mac side and my wife and I are looking forward to seeing what Apple has in mind.

[Sonofhaig]

Originally posted by noel4r
please let this be true. i use quicken that came with OS X and i find it very clumsy and not user-friendly.

I totally disagree. I think Quicken is fine program. Not to mention very easy.

[G4scott]

Let Apple do it. It will put out some competition for quicken, and if Quiken doesn't do anything about it, too bad, we'll have a better app. But quicken might start to upgrade their program and make it better. Either way, we win.

This would also really help me in college...

[network23]

Having an Intuit person on Apple's board doesn't mean a thing.

I firmly believe that he is there so that Steve can beat up on him whenever Intuit threatens to stop development of Quicken. Those two black eyes a few months back resulted in Quickbooks coming back to the Mac.

I also believe that Intuit would be flipping cartwheels if they didn't have to develop Mac versions of their products. Apple knows they need home acct software to compete. Therefore, Apple creates its own version that works, and works well, and offers some features/shortcuts that no one's thought of before. Intuit drops Quicken for Mac. Everyone is happy.

[bignumbers]

Intuit killed Mac Quicken once before. I'm sure they'll kill it again in an instant if Apple wrote their own competing app. The problem is everyone knows Quicken. If there's no Quicken, it will harm consumer Mac sales. Whether Apple's is better than Quicken is irrelevant in terms of sales. It would have to be so damned fantastic, and there's no chance Apple would put that much development into it.

There DOES need to be more competition on the business accounting front. Mac Quickbooks 5 is garbage. MYOB is ok for some people, but I just hate the interface and need to close out each year.

[Kid Red]

We'll see, I mean has spymac been right yet in the year and half they've been around? And yet for some reason people still quote on the front page of their site. :confused:

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by Sonofhaig
I totally disagree. I think Quicken is fine program. Not to mention very easy. You must be using the Windows version then.

[QuiteSure]

This is way out in left field, but maybe Apple is sensitive to the problems that its attorneys and other timekeeping professionals are having since Sage has announced that timeslips will not be ported to OSX. time billing professionals need a networkable, OSX friendly, non-filemaker based billing module, which may work great with a new Apple accounting product.

I know, I know, way wishful thinking, but isn't that what we're all here for?

PS, i don't have any problems with Quicken either ...

[juancarloz]

Apple should buy Word Perfect why are they playing with BeOS or Apple works

[backdraft]

"Other rumored components of the upcoming package include spreadsheet and database applications. "

Anyone think that the database application is MySQL plus an Apple GUI, just like Safari is KHTML plus an Apple GUI. It would make sense since MySQL is gaining popularity as an alternative to M$ SQL Server and Oracle.

Thoughts?

Great ideas for OS X: http://www.geocities.com/juan_m007

[backdraft]

Originally posted by Yarddog
I seem to remember that Intuit has been trying to drop Quicken for 3 or 4 years now. My understanding is that Apple, in order to get them to keep developing it, put some of its own programmers at Intuit to defray some of the costs of Quicken Mac development. If this is really true, Apple might just be trying to bring quicken mac development in house. I guess they would have to call it something else, but it might still be quicken with a brushed metal interface.

I would hope that they get pocket quicken working with it. I use that a lot.

Everything was fine till you mentioned "a brushed metal interface" :eek: , can't stand brushed metal. I wish apple would have an option to turn it off!

[dstorey]

Originally posted by backdraft
"Other rumored components of the upcoming package include spreadsheet and database applications. "

Anyone think that the database application is MySQL plus an Apple GUI, just like Safari is KHTML plus an Apple GUI. It would make sense since MySQL is gaining popularity as an alternative to M$ SQL Server and Oracle.

Thoughts?

Great ideas for OS X: http://www.geocities.com/juan_m007

I've had that thought for a while, befor eeven safari was released, it would be a great idea and much better than Access in Office. However I think PostreSQL would be better, as its more feature packed as an offline db while MySQL is better as a fast online db, and lacks some features like foreign keys etc. I think maybe MySQL has some licencing issues if its used for comercial use but not sure. Also another thing is that don't Apple own a database already in filemaker so maybe they wouldn't produce a rival to it, but who knows

A thing about this rumor is that they say package appleworks and keynote...well this is unlikely...keynote is more a proffesional level rival to powerpoint while appleworks is only a consumer rival to ms works and already includes a presintation app. It would be kinda dumb to include two presintation apps, not to mention confusing for users.

[Daaavek]

Woo-hoo! i$pend!

[jettredmont]

Originally posted by backdraft
"Other rumored components of the upcoming package include spreadsheet and database applications. "

Anyone think that the database application is MySQL plus an Apple GUI, just like Safari is KHTML plus an Apple GUI. It would make sense since MySQL is gaining popularity as an alternative to M$ SQL Server and Oracle.

Thoughts?

Great ideas for OS X: http://www.geocities.com/juan_m007

Well, I'm leaning more towards FileMaker myself ... Yes, MySQL is a good alternative to SQLServer/Oracle, but that's not exactly the MS Access crowd either. Access is a local, simple database more akin to FileMaker than Oracle et al. While you can, technically, do everything (and more) that you can in Access with Oracle, Access is definitely simpler and more (l)user-oriented.

On the other hand, maybe Apple can put a simple interface on the complexity of MySQL (or PostgreSQL) ...

Politically, it's probably not a good thing for Apple to tick off Oracle by helping out MySQL ... like it or not, XServe sales will climb when Oracle can be run reliably on the beasts, and will plummet if Oracle pulls OS X support from their next release ... I think it's wise to keep the list of software giants we're thumbing our noses at to one at a time ...

[BaghdadBob]

I can't speak personally for Quicken or Quickbooks, but I can speak on their tax software, about which they were ***holes when we had a problem, and they imbedded a company in their software which served to rip us off for $40 bucks off our tax return.

My dad used QuickBooks, and loved it, for a long time and was upset when they killed it. When they came out with their upgrade he called it "insulting." Five years or so and same crap.

Bottom line: if Apple is going to alienate Intuit I'm all for it, but they had better give us a reasonably powerful tool for the average Joe, and hopefully a true replacement to QuickBooks for more account-oriented individuals...they already have some of the tools built into the OS for it.

[jettredmont]

Originally posted by dstorey
A thing about this rumor is that they say package appleworks and keynote...well this is unlikely...keynote is more a proffesional level rival to powerpoint while appleworks is only a consumer rival to ms works and already includes a presintation app. It would be kinda dumb to include two presintation apps, not to mention confusing for users.


Can't Apple just dump the old presentation app from Works and replace it with Keynote (or Keynote Lite)? Not having used the AppleWorks presentation app, I can't say if it has any features Keynote does not, but you'd think that Keynote would be a fairly easy replacement there.

I mean, it's not like this hasn't been done before at that other company with a product called "Works" ...

[dstorey]

Originally posted by jettredmont
Can't Apple just dump the old presentation app from Works and replace it with Keynote (or Keynote Lite)? Not having used the AppleWorks presentation app, I can't say if it has any features Keynote does not, but you'd think that Keynote would be a fairly easy replacement there.

I mean, it's not like this hasn't been done before at that other company with a product called "Works" ...

yeah but M$ are just.... well ms. Plus the whole office and works were produced when ms deceided to just add word to works. I think it would be strange to produce only one professional app (and a pres app at that) then stick to the lower quality intergrated components for the other more important parts...it would seem like a job quater done...Apple needs a good quality Word rival...thats the big fish.

[jettredmont]

Originally posted by dstorey
yeah but M$ are just.... well ms. Plus the whole office and works were produced when ms deceided to just add word to works. I think it would be strange to produce only one professional app (and a pres app at that) then stick to the lower quality intergrated components for the other more important parts...it would seem like a job quater done...Apple needs a good quality Word rival...thats the big fish.

Yes, Word/Works isn't exactly a balanced situation ... more like a cheap way to get MS Word and Money and maybe Streets&Trips ...

That having been said, I'd much rather buy an MS Works with Word in it (and, thanks to stupid OEM deals I've bought Works more than a few times because it is often cheaper to just "buy" Works than to get a computer without it!) than that crappy integrated "Works Editor" that they used to ship, and I suspect I'd be more likely to buy AppleWorks if it had Keynote than if it had just an unrelated (and incompatible) presentation knock-off ... One genuine, non-castrated application in the bunch to me is more appealling than none ...

Of course, I'd strongly prefer a full-fledged "Office" style suite with all full-purpose apps. if those rumors are true I'll be quite happy ... although I am also hoping that OpenOffice gets thrown in the mix there too ... too much good work on that project for Apple to just reinvent the wheel again ...

[IJ Reilly]

If Apple does put out a financial application to "compete" with either Quicken or QuickBooks (as if such a thing was possible), think in terms of the iLife model. It will probably be able to debit directly from your digicam, or some such thing.

Bill Campbell -- I vote my shares against him whenever I remember to open my annual report. What a twerp.

As for the brushed metal interface theme, I don't mind it too much, but I'm still holding out for formica. Yellow formica with a boomerang pattern. That would be really cool.

[xjohn]

I would love it if Apple came out with a quality financial application.

If they do so, I really hope they give it international support, as another poster said, with support for multiple currencies and the like. This is a huge missing feature of Quicken for the mac.

My fear is that they will consider this a 'power user' feature and not include it. This would be a mistake. We live in an international world, and more and more people travel or live abroad and need to deal with multiple currencies.

What would be great is if Apple could find a user-friendly way to implement multiple currency support.

[cubist]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
As for the brushed metal interface theme, I don't mind it too much, but I'm still holding out for formica. Yellow formica with a boomerang pattern. That would be really cool.

I want walnut woodgrain. But other times I like frosted glass (translucent).

[Windowlicker]

[i]I'd much rather buy an MS Works with Word in it[/B]

I have to disgree here.. I don't really hate Word, but I think it could be much easier to use. for example the settings should all be in the preferences (I tried finding the "DON'T PLAY THE DAMN SOUNDS" and the "DON'T YOU CORRECT ME EVEN IF YOU THINK I'M SPELLING IT ALL WRONG" buttons but they weren't in the prefs).. the gui is a bit cryptic when you have to do something more than just a plain text, I think.

And apple is known for their ease of use apps.. I'd definitely get the Apple product if there was one for X (and I'm sure there'll be).

[WorkHorse]

Apple could be working on a really nice Aquafied GUI front end to GNUCash, or perhaps GnoFin.

Mmmm, GNUCash... that'd rock the casbah. http://www.gnucash.org

[macguymike]

Apple could become very insular and inbreed flaws if it reaches too far with its "integrated" software/hardware.


Originally posted by Freg3000
This sounds like a good idea. It sort of rounds out a future Apple office suite. I just hope Apple doesn't alienate the companies that actually [try to] support their platform.

[macdong]

Originally posted by Sonofhaig
I totally disagree. I think Quicken is fine program. Not to mention very easy.

For your information, I tried to use Quicken 4 months ago.
And do you know what was the first thing I did after I open the application?
Close it and trash it.

[kreiggers]

I've been "loyal" to Quicken since about 1987 when it was the only thing I knew that could do my finances. since then i have faithfully upgraded to 2003 deluxe (including all the releases in between) and have been rewarded by an increasing number of bugs and crappy UI "improvements".

Quicken $ucks $melly $phinchter. Any half-way competent attempt by Appe to put out some reasonable featured personal finance software would rock - and finally get Quicken out of my life - NEVER to return. Intuit blew it.

Main things Quicken Should do but can't because they suck:
- decent user interface
- decent online banking

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by cubist
I want walnut woodgrain.

Me too, but only if it's the stick-on vinyl kind. I really want my Mac to look like a Kenwood stereo receiver, circa 1972. Retro is in!

[pimentoLoaf]

For more info on 6.2.7 (& an updater) goto:

http://www.apple.com/appleworks/

[Uragon]

In a way, it is apple's statement to other companies, "that if you don't develop it for the mac users, we will and no point in waiting."

[backspinner]

please let us use euros as well

[backspinner]

Originally posted by WorkHorse
Mmmm, GNUCash... that'd rock the casbah. http://www.gnucash.org A Basic Web Browser is Built In
yeah, nice...

[SwitchMonkey]

Well that lil' SpyMac article was not very meaty..

If something like this does indeed come to pass, I will immediately put on my wish list the ability to iSync my balances and expenses with Java enabled cell phones. It would be even nicer to also sync expenses with my Palm as well.

Apple, if you are listening, feel free to use this idea right away.

Intuit/MS, if you are listening, you owe me royalties, if you steal my idea...

Ok, back to reality...

[SwitchMonkey]

Word is.. that Apple's newest board member, Al Gore is lobbying to get a "campaign finance reform" plugin included into the new accounting software...


Originally posted by IJ Reilly
Bill Campbell -- I vote my shares against him whenever I remember to open my annual report. What a twerp.

[SwitchMonkey]

Sounds classy...
Originally posted by IJ Reilly
Me too, but only if it's the stick-on vinyl kind. I really want my Mac to look like a Kenwood stereo receiver, circa 1972. Retro is in!

I'd like to see some water-stained plywood and peeling tyvek. Throw in some nagahide and you get "Trailer park chic" theme...

[allpar]

OK, let's not get into Al Gore bashing. What a shame the guy tried to clean up the election system. A majority of those who voted did so for Al Gore, so he has SOME ability to connect to people. He did wonders in the Federal government for efficiency, regardless of what you might think of him personally. I'd much rather have him there than some investment banker or smooth-talking corporate weasel whose only claim to success is lack of ethics (I don't have anyone in particular in mind). Maybe he can help Apple to focus on some measurable goals and move towards them - the main way that the federal effectiveness program, carried on BTW by the current adminstration but with color-coding and different labels, had its effects.

[backdraft]

Originally posted by dstorey
I've had that thought for a while, even before safari was released, it would be a great idea and much better than Access in Office. However I think PostreSQL would be better, as its more feature packed as an offline db while MySQL is better as a fast online db, and lacks some features like foreign keys etc. I think maybe MySQL has some licencing issues if its used for comercial use but not sure. Also another thing is that don't Apple own a database already in filemaker so maybe they wouldn't produce a rival to it, but who knows

A thing about this rumor is that they say package appleworks and keynote...well this is unlikely...keynote is more a proffesional level rival to powerpoint while appleworks is only a consumer rival to ms works and already includes a presintation app. It would be kinda dumb to include two presintation apps, not to mention confusing for users.

I would go with MySQL over PostreSQL just because its a smaller code base and runs faster than PostreSQL. Same reason why Apple choose KHTML over the Mozilla code. Mozilla and PostreSQL = a slow and Bloated Code Base while KHTML and MySQL = a fast easy to manage small code base. Plus MySQL 5.0 is coming out soon and it would be easier for Apple to improve the Code.

If Apple were to add a GUI to MySQL it would actually encourage Oracle and other database companies to improve their code. Competition works.

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by allpar
OK, let's not get into Al Gore bashing. What a shame the guy tried to clean up the election system. A majority of those who voted did so for Al Gore, so he has SOME ability to connect to people. He did wonders in the Federal government for efficiency, regardless of what you might think of him personally. I'd much rather have him there than some investment banker or smooth-talking corporate weasel whose only claim to success is lack of ethics (I don't have anyone in particular in mind). Maybe he can help Apple to focus on some measurable goals and move towards them - the main way that the federal effectiveness program, carried on BTW by the current adminstration but with color-coding and different labels, had its effects. He was being funny, you are not. Take it to the politcal threads please.

[jimthorn]

Has anyone here used Budget? I've been using it for six months now and it's exactly what I was looking for in a personal finance app. Simple to use, intuitive interface, and feels a lot like one of the Mac iLife apps.

The latest version, Budget 4.0, just came out and is a huge improvement over earlier versions. Definitely worth checking out for people who hate Quicken and want something easy to use with a great interface.

http://www.snowmintcs.com/

[BaghdadBob]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
He was being funny, you are not. Take it to the politcal threads please.

Yes, thank you, I've been way too tempted to respond to that.

In other news, I think the lackluster nature of some Mac accounting software is a conspiracy to teach everyone how to code AppleWorks spreadsheets.

[MacFan25]

I currently do not use any accounting software, but I can see that this app would be very useful to a lot of mac users.

[BaghdadBob]

Originally posted by jimthorn
Has anyone here used Budget? I've been using it for six months now and it's exactly what I was looking for in a personal finance app. Simple to use, intuitive interface, and feels a lot like one of the Mac iLife apps.

The latest version, Budget 4.0, just came out and is a huge improvement over earlier versions. Definitely worth checking out for people who hate Quicken and want something easy to use with a great interface.

http://www.snowmintcs.com/

This program seems allright, I'm still checking it out. If Apple can strike a balance between the simplicity here and some more powerful features for those of us who have more complex budgeting needs they would do well.

Just needs a brushed metal interface :p

Down with Intuit!

[GeneR]

If Apple was smart I'd think they'd start putting feelers out to the financial community regarding the kind of software needs they have in banking and finance and general business... and then build their accounting program with enough parameters to grow to become both a consumer and professional program.

IMHO. :D

[Centris 650]

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
I think the lackluster nature of some Mac accounting software is a conspiracy to teach everyone how to code AppleWorks spreadsheets.

LOL! Now THAT is funny!:D