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MacRumors
Apr 24, 2003, 08:17 AM
Apple is broadcasting via Satellite (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030424/sfth027_1.html) their April 28th event at 10am Pacific Time.

The April 28th Event was reported (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/04/20030421114525.shtml) last week and said to have announcements "that will be music to your ears".

It is widely expected that the long-rumored iPod upgrades as well as an Apple-branded Music Download Service will be released at this time.

In other news, it's rumored that a "communicating device" (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/04/20030421115609.shtml) will be released in the coming weeks, possibly alongside the April 28th announcements.

One reader notes that all Apple Store employees are required to be at work on May 2nd, for training on a new product.



nuckinfutz
Apr 24, 2003, 08:20 AM
Damn...wish I had a Satellite now :mad:

Gren
Apr 24, 2003, 08:23 AM
Wow!

I'll be stopping work at 3 GMT then.

Steamboatwillie
Apr 24, 2003, 08:26 AM
Will they be streaming it over the internet too?

appeLappe
Apr 24, 2003, 08:28 AM
It might be more than updated iPods... Perhaps the music-service is big enough for satellite broadcasting, but I have a feeling there is something more....

dobbin
Apr 24, 2003, 08:29 AM
This BBC news link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2972673.stm) tells about EMIs decision to allow digital downloads of its artists' catalogues and the author expects there to be many announcements soon from resellers setting up download services.

I'm sure that the Apple service will be seamless when it is launched, but it is likely to be a tough market I would imagine. A nice new version of iTunes or a fancy new iPod could be just what it takes to make the Apple service the most popular.

I think the most interesting thing will be whether Apple makes this available to everyone, or just people using Macs, or even just people who have iPods. My guess is that it will be for Macs only, but you won't need an iPod.

We'll see on Monday. I hope someone will put up a minute by minute update somewhere, or better still a live feed to the web. Is that possible?

Gren: I think 10.00 Pacific Time = 17.00 GMT = 18.00 BST.

So it will be at 6pm here in the UK. Can someone confirm that please?We will have to wait all day to see whats coming!

jethroted
Apr 24, 2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Steamboatwillie
Will they be streaming it over the internet too?

I hope they stream it too. I had a rough time with streaming back in Jan. It kept cutting out, and clogging up, but I want to try it again.

cubist
Apr 24, 2003, 08:39 AM
I suppose you can play music on the Mac, but if I were at home I could just play my CDs. The iPod needs to be updated, and there needs to be something like iTunes for the PC to work with the service and the Windows iPods. The docking bay and USB2 interface will make the iPod much more attractive too. That's plenty of things to announce!

The "communicating device" is probably the Sony Ericsson P800 phone. (But if they want to announce a 970-based 15" AlBook that's fine with me! :-) )

gotohamish
Apr 24, 2003, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by cubist
I suppose you can play music on the Mac, but if I were at home I could just play my CDs. The iPod needs to be updated, and there needs to be something like iTunes for the PC to work with the service and the Windows iPods. The docking bay and USB2 interface will make the iPod much more attractive too. That's plenty of things to announce!

The "communicating device" is probably the Sony Ericsson P800 phone. (But if they want to announce a 970-based 15" AlBook that's fine with me! :-) )

I don't understand the 15" 970 rumors - as if!

mac15
Apr 24, 2003, 08:49 AM
why not a webcast, satellite what is apple thinking

mxpiazza
Apr 24, 2003, 08:51 AM
is it even *possible* to think that apple may shock the world by announcing the 970 during this satellite feed?

Centris 650
Apr 24, 2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by dobbin
I think the most interesting thing will be whether Apple makes this available to everyone, or just people using Macs, or even just people who have iPods. My guess is that it will be for Macs only, but you won't need an iPod.

From what everyone is saying is that it will be limited to mac users. The music industry could see this as a test before they have Apple release it to the Windoze World.

As far as having an iPod to use the service... I hope not. I'll gladly pay for the service. I'll encourage everyone to use it. But I don't want to shell out $400 to use this service!

My question is will you need a .Mac account? I know everyone says that this will work directly through iTunes but you never know with Apple do you?

Postal
Apr 24, 2003, 08:55 AM
I question whether or not Apple really would make a Mac-only music service. The only real challenge is in making copy-protected music (assuming it IS copy-protected) available to people who don't have iTunes. Maybe they could release an AAC plug-in for Winamp or Windows Media Player...

Either way, I'm looking forward to this, as a new iPod may help determine what I get as a grad gift. If I'm so fortunate. :)

MarkW19
Apr 24, 2003, 08:55 AM
OK, I can only assume that U.S. satellite is different from UK but, I've seen the co-ordinates for the broadcast in the link - is it possible to tune to the channel using Sky Digital in the UK?

And if so, how? :p

Tom800
Apr 24, 2003, 09:02 AM
They've never broadcast a sat viewing without a web stream too.

Centris 650
Apr 24, 2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by MarkW19
OK, I can only assume that U.S. satellite is different from UK but, I've seen the co-ordinates for the broadcast in the link - is it possible to tune to the channel using Sky Digital in the UK?

And if so, how? :p

This might help. (http://www.macdailynews.com/comments.php?id=P946_0_1_0)

alia
Apr 24, 2003, 09:08 AM
Well, they are certainly generating some buzz at least...

http://money.cnn.com/2003/04/23/technology/techinvestor/hellweg/index.htm

Don't know if this is the right forum for this, but there are just too many apple music service/ipod forums right now, so I'm putting it in the one people are actually likely to look at.

;)

Alia

icrew
Apr 24, 2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by dobbin
Gren: I think 10.00 Pacific Time = 17.00 GMT = 18.00 BST.

So it will be at 6pm here in the UK. Can someone confirm that please?We will have to wait all day to see whats coming!

Check out http://www.WhatTimeIsIt.com--that should answer your question, regardless of where you are inthe world.

RBMaraman
Apr 24, 2003, 09:15 AM
I don't understand why so many people think this will be the announcement of the 970. The invitation said, "Music to your ears." That tells me that the announcement will be music related. I don't think the 970 has the ability to generate its own Grammy winning music.

Every major newspaper in the world has confirmed Apple will be launching a music service. New iPods have to be coming. That's what this announcement will cover.


And, one last thing (and it's a bit off topic). Apple is not stupid enough to put a powerful chip like the 970 in a laptop before a desktop. So, lets start dreaming realistically. Stop with the 15" PB 970 talk!

MarkW19
Apr 24, 2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Centris 650
This might help. (http://www.macdailynews.com/comments.php?id=P946_0_1_0)

Does anyone actually know how to enter these co-ordinates and view the channel using Sky Digital in the UK though? ;)

noel4r
Apr 24, 2003, 09:26 AM
come on ipod, come to me.....

Capt. Obvious
Apr 24, 2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by RBMaraman
I don't understand why so many people think this will be the announcement of the 970. The invitation said, "Music to your ears." I don't think the 970 has the ability to generate its own Grammy winning music.
Given the lame & formulaic crap that gets "awarded" Grammies, I don't think a computer would have TOO hard a time....

FYI - the Grammy is awarded for sales numbers and market penetration - NOT for either originality or quality; those are things humans look for.

ObSpec: the 'satellite broadcast' is probably just a feed to the Apple Stores & select ASPs. The announcement may be "big", but I very much doubt it's worth the trouble and expense of a webstream.

Mr. MacPhisto
Apr 24, 2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by RBMaraman
I don't understand why so many people think this will be the announcement of the 970. The invitation said, "Music to your ears." That tells me that the announcement will be music related. I don't think the 970 has the ability to generate its own Grammy winning music.

Every major newspaper in the world has confirmed Apple will be launching a music service. New iPods have to be coming. That's what this announcement will cover.


And, one last thing (and it's a bit off topic). Apple is not stupid enough to put a powerful chip like the 970 in a laptop before a desktop. So, lets start dreaming realistically. Stop with the 15" PB 970 talk!


No, but what if they introduce PowerMac 970 and Powerbook 970 @ the same time? Imagine the buzz generated if Apple announces a new music service, a new iPod, a (possible) purchase of Universal Music, and the first line of 64-bit machines made for the masses. That would be quite an amazing day. I, for one, don't think they'll announce the 970, BUT I do know that they should be ready to ship by July - so an announcement now, coinciding with price reductions on various Macs, could create an amazing amount of buzz and anticipation.

Freg3000
Apr 24, 2003, 09:37 AM
Does anyone want to guess at how long this will be? If it's close to 2 hours I might be able to chance the back end of it if I am lucky.

snej
Apr 24, 2003, 09:41 AM
Satellites at 90º West aren't visible from europe at all.

Coverages of the satellites mentioned in the PR:

http://www.spacecom.com/customer_tools/html/customer_tools.htm

RBMaraman
Apr 24, 2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Capt. Obvious
Given the lame & formulaic crap that gets "awarded" Grammies, I don't think a computer would have TOO hard a time....


OK then, let me rephrase. I don't think the 970 chip has the ability to play piano, play guitar, play drums, sing, mix and entire record, etc.

Remember people, the announcement invitation said, "Announcements that will be music to your ears." I'm willing to bet my life savings (which isn't much since I'm a college student), that these announcements will be the Apple music service, and new iPods.

But, it's not like I'm going to whine if the announce the 970. :D

I'm simply trying to think in a more realistic realm. It's OK to dream, but lately, people on here have been dreaming things that should be kept to themselves.

SilentPanda
Apr 24, 2003, 09:45 AM
They are broadcasting it via Satellite because...

iSat!

It's a satellite module for your iPod to download music on the go! No matter where you are you can download new tunes or listen to XM radio!!!!

*note: this made up rumor is based on 2.3 seconds of thought and nothing else*

copperpipe
Apr 24, 2003, 09:58 AM
I'm posting this here just because I have to type something damnit, I'm so excited.

Anyway, we all know what they are going to announce: The Apple Music Service, which will be for Mac users only (PC users at a later date). Wether or not it will use .MAC is the big question. Of course they will most probably announce iTunes 4 to take advantage of this, and new iPods probably, which will be the added bonus. That's it, and who knows, they might not anounce new ipods. But I don't wanna hear any whining from anyone if they don't surprise us - the Macrumors geeks - with this announcement. We are in our own little world here, and we get ourselves so worked up that Apple can only satisfy our greedy demands only 10% of the time.

mdntcallr
Apr 24, 2003, 10:00 AM
Wouldnt it be great if it wasnt just on the big dish Sat tv, but also being covered live by Techtv?

They are on most cable and directv/echo.

so most everyone could watch if they covered it.

anonmac
Apr 24, 2003, 10:05 AM
ok, just to set the record strraight.....

the 970 does not have a 900 mhz bus...it has 2 450 mhz busses. one 'in' and one 'out'- if it helps to think of it this way.

soooo...unless there is some RADICAL shrinking of the 1st generation mobo's, they will not appear in powerbooks. it would be much simpler to roll it out on the desktops, then 'refine' the 2nd generation for portables. it probably has less to do with the manufacturing process (I.E. 13U VS 9U) than the bus. (the 970, even at .13u, puts out *just about* the heat and power of a comparable g4- so from that aspect, it could be used.)

short take: do not get your hopes up for a 970 powerbook in 2003. (dual g4's? maybe in the 17"- late this year, or early next?)

note that i do not have any 'inside' knowledge, i have just done a great deal of reading on the 970. (and the power4, when that was all the available literature. i actually hope there is a power4 port of os x for HIGH-END workstations- they would cost $10,000.00 but who cares for the target market(video producers, etc.) they would be the baddest box on the market- bar none. anyone who argues with this has not looked at the smp performance of the power4, with the coherent cache up to 128MB L3, and the fact that you can 'cluster' cpu's.to unify that cache.

hongtak
Apr 24, 2003, 10:18 AM
It will be a music service, an new iPod....
and something you will never guess it right! :confused:

Wait and see ! :D

Foxer
Apr 24, 2003, 10:19 AM
What about this May2 date for new training at Apple Stores. That's next Friday. Does this mean that whatever gets announced on Monday won't be immdiately available? I have no patience. I'm an American. I want it last week, dammit!

iSmell
Apr 24, 2003, 10:53 AM
iTraks (I don't think that's what apple will call it, but that's what the rumor people have been calling it). Apples version of iMovie (or maybe FCExpress) for audio. Cheap or free. Available now to download.

That seems like it would complete the whole music theme.




Just a guess though.

Steamboatwillie
Apr 24, 2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Foxer
What about this May2 date for new training at Apple Stores.

Would Apple be training employees on the music download service? If not one might assume there is a new piece of hardware they will be trained on. It certainly helps with speculation of a new iPod. Furthermore, if it is a new iPod, they must have added more features to warrant employee training. I wonder... :confused:

sparks9
Apr 24, 2003, 11:07 AM
Steamboat your sig is too long...
I like iSmells better!

johnpg
Apr 24, 2003, 11:22 AM
I bet that if they announce any other product it will be some kind of device that hooks up to a stereo/TV to play music and view photos from your Mac. That would be the type of thing that made sense considering the new music service, and exists by other vendors (think new Tivo service).

Something to think about anyway.

Cheers,
John

reedm007
Apr 24, 2003, 11:32 AM
They've never broadcast a sat viewing without a web stream too.

That's simply not true. It takes a lot of money, time, and effort to put together a QuickTime stream of an event (think of all the bandwidth costs Apple has to pay, all the human resources needed to pull it together, etc.), whereas a satellite is much cheaper. Apple has traditionally only streamed the Macworlds, and WWDC keynote has been available via satellite in the past, despite no QT stream...

cubist
Apr 24, 2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by anonmac
... i actually hope there is a power4 port of os x for HIGH-END workstations- they would cost $10,000.00 but who cares for the target market(video producers, etc.) they would be the baddest box on the market- bar none. anyone who argues with this has not looked at the smp performance of the power4, with the coherent cache up to 128MB L3, and the fact that you can 'cluster' cpu's.to unify that cache...

That is an awesome thought. Apple could license Mac OS X to IBM for the Power4 machines. Certainly no one would argue that THOSE machines would displace a lot of Mac sales... actually I think they're closer to $20K. Motorola would gripe, of course.
(Could I justify saving up for that beast? Alas...)

I'm hoping Apple will get access to IBM's compilers and other software tools for the 970, which supposedly have much better performance than gcc. A lot of good things could come out of this relationship.

network23
Apr 24, 2003, 11:34 AM
Jukebox

juniormaj
Apr 24, 2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by RBMaraman
I don't understand why so many people think this will be the announcement of the 970. The invitation said, "Music to your ears." That tells me that the announcement will be music related.

That would be "Music to your ears" as a literal translation, and it is likely what they mean.
However, what if they were refering to new, faster processors that finally stopped the PC world from constantly bashing the Mac for being "slow"? That kind of silencing could also be "Music to your ears".
Just a thought...

Steamboatwillie
Apr 24, 2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by sparks9
Steamboat your sig is too long...
I like iSmells better!

I shrunk it. I think yours is too short, I can't seem to make out the text at all.

:)

claughery
Apr 24, 2003, 11:47 AM
at what place does it say that apple employees are supposed to be in store for a "new product"?

pilotgi
Apr 24, 2003, 11:49 AM
I think it will be:

Apple music service

New iPod

iTunes 4 with some kind of copy protection that prohibits P2P sharing.

As far as the 970, _maybe_ Apple will officially announce that they are going to begin using this chip, but no new machines yet. This would be a major departure from Steve's policy of not commenting on future hardware, so it's very unlikely.

I think all PPC 970 announcements will be saved for WWDC.

buseman
Apr 24, 2003, 12:04 PM
I think all PPC 970 announcements will be saved for WWDC.

Steve and friends tell everyone that this "clearly is the year of the laptop"..

But all mac zealots expect to see the most radical desktop update in Apple history in June..

Makes sense? :confused:

Actually "G5" speculation has been around for two years and counting now (I remember a Moneyline interview where Steve was asked by a surprised Lou Dobbs why we didn't get the G5 right after the FP iMac announcement in MWSF 2002 LOL)

Glossybear
Apr 24, 2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by RBMaraman
So, lets start dreaming realistically.

??? What is the point of dreaming then?

Chef Ramen
Apr 24, 2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Glossybear
??? What is the point of dreaming then?

you make a good point

Snowy_River
Apr 24, 2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by RBMaraman
I don't understand why so many people think this will be the announcement of the 970. The invitation said, "Music to your ears." That tells me that the announcement will be music related. I don't think the 970 has the ability to generate its own Grammy winning music.

Every major newspaper in the world has confirmed Apple will be launching a music service. New iPods have to be coming. That's what this announcement will cover.


And, one last thing (and it's a bit off topic). Apple is not stupid enough to put a powerful chip like the 970 in a laptop before a desktop. So, lets start dreaming realistically. Stop with the 15" PB 970 talk!


Yes, yes, yes. We all expect the music service, and new iPods, and new iTunes. But what's a little perplexing is the level of hubbub that Apple is making about this. While I freely grant that doesn't really say anything, it does open up the possibility for speculating on even bigger announcements (i.e. the 970 - whether PM, PB, or both).

And before anyone says that I'm working up to being disappointed when no 970 comes along on Monday, I can assure you that I'm not. I'm really looking forward to whatever Apple has in store for us. I'm sure it will be 'music to my ears'... ;)

Snowy_River
Apr 24, 2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Glossybear
Originally posted by RBMaraman
So, lets start dreaming realistically.
??? What is the point of dreaming then?

How about this: Plan and expect realistically...

Dream for anything...

:D

RBMaraman
Apr 24, 2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Snowy_River
Yes, yes, yes. We all expect the music service, and new iPods, and new iTunes. But what's a little perplexing is the level of hubbub that Apple is making about this. While I freely grant that doesn't really say anything, it does open up the possibility for speculating on even bigger announcements (i.e. the 970 - whether PM, PB, or both).

And before anyone says that I'm working up to being disappointed when no 970 comes along on Monday, I can assure you that I'm not. I'm really looking forward to whatever Apple has in store for us. I'm sure it will be 'music to my ears'... ;)

I think you make some very good points here. I keep hoping that apple will release a new PDA or tablet Mac, and after each announcement I'm never let down because it doesn't happen. I'm just concerned that people are making this event into a much bigger deal than it actually is.

As a PR person, I can give you my professional opinion on the literal meanings of the event press release. The phrase, "announcements that will be music to your ears," is an excellent play on words. Any PR person will tell you that Apple used that phrase because it has a big announcement associated with music. If they were going to be announcing the PPC 970, they might have said, "announcements that will speed Apple into the future."

Glossybear and Chef Ramen....Let's try and stay on topic here. I need to go take a nap. Maybe I'll dream about the Newton 2. :D ;)

mkaake
Apr 24, 2003, 01:02 PM
i have no doubt that the announcement is about the music service and hopefully the new ipod, but i can't help but think how great it would be it they got out there and introduced something completely new. something we've known absolutley nothing about. how awesome would that be? "and here is the i___" the next device you never knew about, but can't live without....


awesome.

*sigh*

dongmin
Apr 24, 2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by buseman
Steve and friends tell everyone that this "clearly is the year of the laptop"..

I'm so tired of people quoting this phrase and translating it as "970 will most definietly be introduced in a laptop or Steve Jobs is a stinkin liar."

Com'on people, get real. It's marketing speak. He said that when he was introducing two new laptops. OF COURSE he's gonna make some dramatic statement to hype up his new toys. Remember "Death to the CRT" and "No more boot to OS 9."


edit: for formatting

buseman
Apr 24, 2003, 01:27 PM
But it would stop Powermac sales once and for all :D

dongmin
Apr 24, 2003, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by buseman
But it would stop Powermac sales once and for all :D

OK, I don't want to stray too far off topic, but the best-case scenario for 970-Powerbook wishers is that a 970 PB is introduced at the same time as a new 970 PowerMac at WWDC at the end of June.

Back to "Music to your ears": anyone who thinks this could mean a non-music-related announcement clearly hasn't been in the rumoring game very long. Folks, music will be the focus, the only focus of this press event.

It's almost certain that Jobs will introduce a new iPod and music download service. No way is Jobs gonna detract from these releases by introducing something totally unrelated, like a PDA or phone or laptop. If there is some new mystery device is, it's also music related.

So beyond a new iPod and music service, what are other music-related possibilities:

1. iTracks. As speculated by many, Apple could release some sort of music authoring iApp to work with iMovie and iDVD.

2. Better integration of iTunes with your home entertainment system. Perhaps Apple will introduce their own hardware OR demo 3rd party devices like TiVo.

I think the whole statellite feed thing is to allow for people in Wall Street and the media to get the full effect of Steve's mojo. With the Apple stock taking a beating recently, I think Steve wants to generate a buzz with the financial people. Sure, consumers can use the buzz too but this new music service is all about making money for Apple.

RBMaraman
Apr 24, 2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by buseman
Steve and friends tell everyone that this "clearly is the year of the laptop"..


Don't forget that Steve has also said in several interviews, and I quote, "This may be the year of the laptop, but this will also be a huge year for Apple's desktops."

That, at least to me, signifies that the desktops will be a huge focus later in the year.

DHagan4755
Apr 24, 2003, 02:13 PM
It's become rather clear with "music to your ears," that this event will exclusively focus on only three things: new music service, new version of iTunes software, new iPod models.

* 970 intro -- forget it.

* new 15 inch PowerBook -- forget it -- or it will be announced "under the radar."

sedarby
Apr 24, 2003, 02:56 PM
Do you really think that Apple is going to announce something as huge as a processor change along with a "...music to your ears" event? No way!!! The 970 (if that happens at all) will be an event unto itself and not piggy backed on to anything else.

Think about it. We have this great music service for you and a new iPod to boot and oh by the way we're going to start using this 64 bit processor.

Geez!!! :rolleyes:

deepkid
Apr 24, 2003, 03:38 PM
This is not a bad time to buy AAPL if you can, people. At around $13.20 or so, its destined to go higher, sooner than later.

I bought my tibook and some other things this way.

MacFan25
Apr 24, 2003, 04:16 PM
Damn, I'll be in school during the broadcast. :(

Come on iPods! :D

theFly
Apr 24, 2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by DHagan4755
It's become rather clear with "music to your ears," that this event will exclusively focus on only three things: new music service, new version of iTunes software, new iPod models.

Come now. Wouldn't Apple finally introducing a 1.8GHz, smoke the pants off a PIV, 970 PowerMac system be music to the ears of everyone who's been waiting for it? Sure it would. :)

In reality, however, I don't think we'll see the 970 right now. WWDC earliest, possibly along side Panther. Do we really know that 10.2 can't run on a 970 as it is? I don't think we do.

Communication device, possibly. At best, I think it'll be a video conferencing camera (you know, iChat is built for it), it connects (or as we could say, attaches) to both a Cinema Display and a Powerbook. Maybe include something like VoIP. I saw a comment that there are soon going to be cell phones that work over 802.11b networks. At worst, it'll be a kareoke (damn spelling) device to sing along with all those tunes you're now legally paying for.

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RLB
Apr 24, 2003, 04:59 PM
About the May 2nd thing: Thinksecret reports that it will be an in-store event but this rumor seems to say that it is a training day for the staff so I am not sure what to expect. Either way as long as I can buy a new ipod on Monday, no complaints.

KLFloyd
Apr 24, 2003, 05:22 PM
Ok, I know next to nothing about Satelites so forgive me if this is a totally stupid question...but my parents have one of those DirectTV satelites on their home, it's not currentley receiving DirectTV service but it is still up there and working. Is there any way I can use this thing to receive the broadcast?

Things would be so much simpler if they would just webcast the damn event. I'm not driving two hours down to an Apple Store to watch it.

nickmo57
Apr 24, 2003, 07:55 PM
can someone explain to me why there is all of this speculation about music editing software... it seems to me like on a consumer level, a lot of people do have original video or photo content that they want to edit, but how many non pro users are creating their own music... it seems to me like as far as music goes, people want a) a good source for music and b) a good way to store and play there music, but that's about it....


i am a long time reader, this is my first post!

SoonToGetAMac
Apr 24, 2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by nickmo57
can someone explain to me why there is all of this speculation about music editing software... it seems to me like on a consumer level, a lot of people do have original video or photo content that they want to edit, but how many non pro users are creating their own music... it seems to me like as far as music goes, people want a) a good source for music and b) a good way to store and play there music, but that's about it....


i am a long time reader, this is my first post!

:D Welcome, and I have been wondering the exact same thing! Can anyone help us?:)

sawaguchishinji
Apr 25, 2003, 12:10 AM
It could be the new device in page 2. "Quicktime embedded".

williwilli
Apr 25, 2003, 01:08 AM
http://www.sejus.com/earth2willi/fo...topic.php?t=252

Makes sense to provide a way to sell your subscription service without requiring a $2000 computer.. built in modem, ethernet, optional airport card. Streams internet radio in standalone mode. Various audio I/O and connection to iPod for about $100-$200, bundled with or subsidized by the subscription service (buy 3 years of deluxe membership prepaid, get the iStation free).....

geerlingguy
Apr 25, 2003, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by nickmo57
can someone explain to me why there is all of this speculation about music editing software... it seems to me like on a consumer level, a lot of people do have original video or photo content that they want to edit, but how many non pro users are creating their own music... it seems to me like as far as music goes, people want a) a good source for music and b) a good way to store and play there music, but that's about it....


i am a long time reader, this is my first post!

A lot of people I know would like to be able to do simple edits in order to take out parts of songs on some CDs such as ones where there is audience clapping after the song is over or where there's a "lead-in" to the next song (these are really annoying when you listen to a single song off of some CDs like the Radio Disney CDs...).

I think that it would be advantageous of Apple to include some simple way of editing the MP3s or AACs in iTunes (maybe just being able to clip and fade in/out); I expected this to be a feature in 3.0, but nothing yet. I do have access to a ProTools professional system & QuickTime Pro, but I don't like having to import a song, edit it, then export it, then re-import it into iTunes again :rolleyes: -- that takes too long...

nickmo57
Apr 25, 2003, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by geerlingguy
A lot of people I know would like to be able to do simple edits in order to take out parts of songs on some CDs such as ones where there is audience clapping after the song is over or where there's a "lead-in" to the next song (these are really annoying when you listen to a single song off of some CDs like the Radio Disney CDs...).



Couldn't you just use the adjustible start time and end time in iTunes 3... i know this doesn't change things permanently, but its a good solution for most people...

anonmac
Apr 25, 2003, 09:23 AM
a clarification...actually, the power4 does not do altivec (yet?) so it would need some form of 'altivec emulation'- if that makes sense.

i suppose one of the cores (there are two per die, 2 dies per chip bundle.) could be dedicated to that, but it doesn't make as much sense as a 16way ppc970 (16 way power4 would only be 4 chips.), unless the bus situation wont allow apple to do that in a small space (i.e. desktop or 4u or under)

-- i suspect that we will eventually see os x running on 'big iron' from ibm (read power4+ or power5- to give apple the same 'binary compatibility' from desktop to high-end server that sun (alone) currently enjoys in their lineup (at least on 64 bit capable systems.))

i do think there is enough 'extra' capacity in the power4+ that it COULD emulate altivec, as for whether i actually think ibm would implement that- probably not.

once again, there is no 'inside info.' here- i only read and conject (word?).

anonmac. the anonymous mac user.
"i don't try and convert windows users anymore...i just laugh at them."

dongmin
Apr 25, 2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by nickmo57
can someone explain to me why there is all of this speculation about music editing software... it seems to me like on a consumer level, a lot of people do have original video or photo content that they want to edit, but how many non pro users are creating their own music... it seems to me like as far as music goes, people want a) a good source for music and b) a good way to store and play there music, but that's about it....


1. The main reason for there being any kind of 'iTracks' rumor is that Apple acquired Emagic which used to develop a pro music production software. Typically, when Apple acquires a company, the technology first goes into a pro Apple-branded software and then filters down to a consumer-level app.

2. There might not be a huge demand for a consumer-level music editor, but there's probably a fair amount of demand for adding more music-editing features to iMovie and iDVD. This 'iTracks' could be a companion app, or be integrated into iMovie/iMovie. Apple has already started to add more audio features to iMovie but so far it's limited to adding preexisting sounds. It'd be nice to create my own samples before I add them to iMovie.

cfountain72
Apr 25, 2003, 06:45 PM
FYI: Steve Jobs is scheduled to be on CNBC's "Business Center" after 5pm ET on Monday. For those unable to watch the broadcast, or can't get enough of black turtlenecks, this should be a good wrap up of the announcement(s).

evoluzione
Apr 25, 2003, 09:25 PM
ok, so here's a new one for me.....

getting back ON topic now...

i was in the NYC SoHo store today, and noticed a board just inside the entrance, advertising a satellite broadcast viewing at the store on tuesday, so, looks like i'll be there then, it also mentions friday may 2nd too, i can't remember what exactly, but it seems pretty big. it's definitely not {only} a staff training day. :)

joed
Apr 26, 2003, 01:21 AM
Good news, the Monday 28th event will be streamed live via QuickTime.

I went and clicked on an old link in my bookmarks for the Macworld SanFran (Jan 03) stream and instead got the heading and info for the Monday 28 stream - the stream link was still the Macworld from Jan. Shortley after I saw it, the link now nolonger works - just a blank page.

I posted the info to arn on the front page, but he hasn't put the info on the front page or page 2 yet.


James.

PS This was the link (http://stream.apple.akadns.net/)