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Rocketman
Nov 18, 2006, 02:54 PM
i hate the fact that the host was anti-mac.
he's like "what's so cool about the mac? nearlly nobody uses them!" kind of attitude.
and he's one of those typical guys who wants features features and more features. he just dosen't get it.
i thought "gee-ing" means gold though in chinese :confused:
Let's clear this up. That host and the whole channel is waayyy pro-Apple. The products, the stock, the Steve, the whole ball of wax.
He asked a question in the context of Apple's previous nearly dominant market share. Remember the Apple II anyone?
Apple has a low market share now. It was a fair question.
The other guest choked hard and host Ratigan, tried to help him reset and recover by reasking the question. No-go. That rumorian/blogger sucks on TV.
Arn rocked. He was not "effusive", but was responsive, helpful, able to deal with the "format" of the show, and Ratigan's personality is part of that format.
Why was Arn not wearing a black turtleneck shirt? :)
Ratigan was probing for issues of interest to stockholders. Halo effect, market share, forthcoming products, etc. That is what they want and need to hear when Arn goes back.
Arn go back!
Out of curiosity, where physically were you for that interview? The local NBC TV station with satellite?
Rocketman
erockerboy
Nov 18, 2006, 04:00 PM
Just watched the clip, and thought Arn did a great job. Way to go! (If I had to nitpick... I think Arn woulda sounded more polished if he'd spoken a bit more slowly/deliberately and not said "you know" quite so much.... but then again, I'm in a Toastmasters class at the moment and am probably just hypersensitive to these things in my own speech, so - grain of salt, etc. :D)
With that said - I don't "get" all the bashing of the host. The Looprumors guy dug his own hole by claiming that "everything Apple does is successful", and I thought the host's market share counterpunch was totally legit. The obvious riposte would have been to point out that Apple has all but edged Gateway as the #3 computer maker in the US, and the 'iPod halo' effect may barely be getting started... but I guess Mr. Looprumors was too rattled to go there.
Anyway, kudos to Arn - ya big TV star you! :cool:
jonharris200
Nov 18, 2006, 04:24 PM
Good job under pressure, Arn. But how do we know that was really you? ;)
Doctor Q
Nov 18, 2006, 04:55 PM
Good job under pressure, Arn. But how do we know that was really you? ;)Everyone knows you can believe anything you see on TV. Or on the Internet.
jonharris200
Nov 18, 2006, 05:04 PM
i'm gonna start a new site, it's called arnrumors.com... :D
arn
Nov 18, 2006, 05:33 PM
Out of curiosity, where physically were you for that interview? The local NBC TV station with satellite?
yep... small studio in Richmond, VA (where I live) connected via satellite. I couldn't see anyone (host or other interviewee). I was staring at a camera and responding to audio alone.
arn
donniedarko
Nov 18, 2006, 08:47 PM
Nice one Arn.....
Well spoken and articulate.
Other dude looked like such a tool. Guy called him out and he ssttt-st-st-stumbled. He just looked like another Apple Kool Aid swiller.
Thanks for saving him Arn. lol
cb911
Nov 18, 2006, 09:24 PM
wow, good stuff!
also you've just gotta be happy that you didn't get hammered like the other guy. but then you did have your responses worked out - so props. :cool:
MikeTheC
Nov 18, 2006, 09:56 PM
Don't look directly at arn in the face 'cause it'll burn your retinas into the back of your skull.
Here for the first time. . .
You've dreamed about it.
You've wanted it.
You've waited for it.
You need it.
The Church of Arn (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=1)
spicyapple
Nov 19, 2006, 02:12 AM
i'm gonna start a new site, it's called arnrumors.com... :D
I read a rumor his favorite drink is cola. Any truth to this rumor? :p :)
Here for the first time. . .
Now that arn is an internationally recognized internet personality, I suppose he's fair game for chops.
dmw007
Nov 19, 2006, 03:17 PM
Oooh, that could be fun! I'd need you as part of my crew though as well... ;)
Sounds good, provided that I get to be the undercover reporter. ;) :D :)
reyesmac
Nov 19, 2006, 03:30 PM
When asked why the iphone would be different than the other phones out there he should have just started making things up.
• Built in GPS tracking so you know exactly where the person you talk to is.
• Your movements will be tracked and sent to your account in case you are kidnapped.
• It will give directions like a car navigational system.
• Live video conferencing.
• Take a photo, the software will make a pdf with directions that you can email to the person on the other line, through the phone, to get to the same place where the photo was taken.
• Video conference with owners of iTV through their TV set.
With a product that hasn't come out yet the possibilities of what it can do are endless.
~Shard~
Nov 19, 2006, 03:38 PM
Sounds good, provided that I get to be the undercover reporter. ;) :D :)
Done and done. :D
dmw007
Nov 19, 2006, 04:05 PM
Done and done. :D
Cool! :D
***buys new trench coat*** ;) :cool:
MikeTheC
Nov 19, 2006, 08:00 PM
When asked why the iphone would be different than the other phones out there he should have just started making things up.
• Built in GPS tracking so you know exactly where the person you talk to is.
• Your movements will be tracked and sent to your account in case you are kidnapped.
• It will give directions like a car navigational system.
• Live video conferencing.
• Take a photo, the software will make a pdf with directions that you can email to the person on the other line, through the phone, to get to the same place where the photo was taken.
• Video conference with owners of iTV through their TV set.
With a product that hasn't come out yet the possibilities of what it can do are endless.
Well, of *course* it has all those features. What, you mean everyone doesn't already know that?
However, you also missed a few.
• Access to iTunes Radio, letting you listen to any radio station in the world from anywhere in the world;
• Comes with the new Google Earth/iPhone application, letting you view any geographical location in the world. It also links to the built-in GPS system so you can get an overhead view of wherever you are, aiding in navigation.
• Comes with the new Keynote/iPhone and Microsoft's new PowerPoint for iPhone, allowing you to sync both presentation app-created presentations, either for transfer to another computer or for presentation via a cable adapter which lets you charge the iPhone at the same time as show presentations on regular and hi-def projectors.
• Comes with a cable assortment that gives you video output anywhere in the world, making it the world's most connectible micro-video and micro-multimedia device. Supported standards are: Analog - VGA and Component (up to 1280x1024), and S-Video and Composite (up to 1024x768), with S-Vid/Composite support in NTSC, PAL and SECAM; Digital - HDMI 2.2/2.1; DVI-D/I; also supports Raw DV and H.264 output to compatible devices.
• Multichannel Bluetooth 2.0, allowing up to four digital stereo headphones, data connection to a Windows or Mac computer; and a standard analog headset for hands-free conversation, all simultaneously.
• Connects to Macs / WinXPSP2 / GNU/Linux boxes via either FireWire 400 or USB 2.0.
So, as you can see, you missed a few things. But that's alright, we still like you anyhow.
Arn Bless You.
MikeTheC
Nov 19, 2006, 08:06 PM
Oh, sorry. I forgot to mention there's a F/OSS development going on for a downloadable app which will allow you to connect up to six iPhones together via either a FireWire or USB hub to link high-def video playback across the screens, giving you a much larger combined screen area. I think you can find the project up on SourceForge under "iPhone Video Superscreen".
:)
neonart
Nov 19, 2006, 08:59 PM
Not to mention the built in Sega Master System emulator (internally known as iSMS) to play such amazing 8-bit titles as Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap, Phantasy Star, and Psycho Fox.
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SiliconAddict
Nov 19, 2006, 09:05 PM
:D congrats Arn. Big star eh? Can I get your autograph? :p
Kardashian
Nov 20, 2006, 08:08 AM
That interviewers a tw@t.
He's so rude! As soon as the other guy answers any questions, he butts in straight away.
Big ol' Mac basher!
cr2sh
Nov 20, 2006, 12:14 PM
Wow.. the fanboy nature of this forum has never been clearer to me. The interviewer was looking for an answer to a reasonable question "What is apple going to do that will make this phone better than the rest?" and the first guy's answer was laughable.
yellow
Nov 20, 2006, 12:50 PM
It has nothing to do with being a so-called "fanboy".
The question WAS reasonable. What was UNREASONABLE was the interviewer wouldn't let joe schmo answer the question, lame answer or not.
I thought I was watching Fox News for a second there.
Is it true that you still beat your wife?
no, i..
IS IT TRUE?
I sai..
SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S TRUE?
NO, pleas..
WIFEBEATER!
:rolleyes:
decksnap
Nov 20, 2006, 12:52 PM
It has nothing to do with being a so-called "fanboy".
The question WAS reasonable. What was UNREASONABLE was the interviewer wouldn't let joe schmo answer the question, lame answer or not. I thought I was watching Fox News for a second there.
Anybody who wants to jump on this guy for his technique should watch a couple of broadcasts before making their judgement. As I said, this is not Fox news, and the show is really good. And as far as I can tell, not biased.
njmac
Nov 20, 2006, 12:52 PM
Wow.. the fanboy nature of this forum has never been clearer to me. The interviewer was looking for an answer to a reasonable question "What is apple going to do that will make this phone better than the rest?" and the first guy's answer was laughable.
I don't think it has anything to do with the fanboy nature, just human nature. Unless you spend time watching the political pundits, the interviewer came off as a jerk. Most people are use to watching interviews where everyone is civil and the interviewer usually kisses up to the guests. This type of interview is obviously quite different.
The guy from looprumors was a terrible guest, he was rude and unprepared. I would have preferred to see the host just cut him off and go to Arn to try and get the question answered instead of calling him on it and letting the guest struggle.
Macmadant
Nov 20, 2006, 12:56 PM
wow arn handled it quite well i did feel sorry for that other guy he faced a question from a crassly ignorant person and i believe there are around 20 million mac users world wide i hardly call that not selling any, people like the anchor man really irritate me, reminds me of a stereotypical PC user
macenforcer
Nov 20, 2006, 01:23 PM
Man did Bob look like an idiot. Arn, you did great though.
When Bob was talking I was thinking... SAY IT's THE INTERFACE MAN, OH COME ON, then when Arn started talking he said what I wanted Bob to say. Thank God. Oh and Bob should not have worn that shirt. Oh boy he looked bad. Arn looked good. Suit = Good Choice.
theheadguy
Nov 20, 2006, 01:55 PM
If that host is going to run his show like the O'Reilly Factor or Hardball with Chris Matthews--- then speak to them the way they speak to you.
It's not about being quiet and polite, and "well that's the formal courteous way to be a guest on a show where the hosts yells and is rude to me."
ATTACK BACK. (This comment wasn't said to Arn but...) Apple not owning 95% of the market? My reply would have been something to the effect of Mercedes or BMW owning less than 5% of the entire vehicle market in America but is still are vastly superior cars to the majority. Simple.
We've all heard the attacks on Mac users and quite honestly many people don't reply to them, making the attacks seem all the more justified by the morons in America.
You may say "well I don't care what other people think." Well if that is the case, then it's best not to sign up to be on national televison in front of millions of viewers.
Okay, I'm done now, and I think Arn did a good job. My frustration stems from the moronic ignorant host, who deserved a few more words out of the mouths of his guests, to at least shut him up if not prove a point.
MikeTheC
Nov 20, 2006, 03:47 PM
Disclaimer: I think that Arn did an amazingly good, professional-caliber interview; stylistically there was nothing wrong with what he said, how he said it, nor how he presented his thoughts and himself. The following comments are in no way directed to him, nor are they directed to Bob of LoopRumors, either.
Who the **** came up with the idea of interviewing two rumors' site maintainers about unannounced, forthcoming-or-maybe-not products from Apple in the context of a financial and investment industry news show? That is the single most stupefyingly dumfounding unprofessional, un-journalistic thing I can think to do.
And then the host decides to play hardball (pun not intended) with these non-company-representatives? If it were my network and I saw this happen, I would fire the producer of the show and the interviewer on-the-spot. I don't care if the two guests were there to praise the virtues of the Zune, or they were there to talk about Windows Vista or what we're doing in Afghanistan. What they (producer and host) did was completely inappropriate for that show, period.
Now, if the iPhone really does exist, and if it were released, and then if these two people were asked to appear as lay-member product analysts, and the point was to give the "every-man" take on whether this was a good product, then it would have been justifiable to put Bob and Arrn on; however it would NOT have been appropriate to grill them.
How can Arn and/or Bob possibly be qualified to essentially represent Apple if they don't even know for a fact that this product is really being developed and released, to say nothing of even knowing what it's capabilities are?
This whole thing is the most ******** ******* retarded thing I've ever seen on an allegedly-professional network broadcast.
Under the circumstances, both Bob and Arn should have, while on camera, told the host off and immediately walked off-set. What that guy did was totally uncalled for.
dmw007
Nov 20, 2006, 07:18 PM
Under the circumstances, both Bob and Arn should have, while on camera, told the host off and immediately walked off-set. What that guy did was totally uncalled for.
Not sure that arn telling the host off and then walking off of the set would have reflected well upon MR. :o
~Shard~
Nov 20, 2006, 09:51 PM
Not sure that arn telling the host off and then walking off of the set would have reflected well upon MR. :o
I'd definitely agree with that one. That's pretty much the most unprofessional thing a person could do in that circumstance. Thank God arn has more common sense and composure than that. :cool:
dmw007
Nov 20, 2006, 10:20 PM
I'd definitely agree with that one. That's pretty much the most unprofessional thing a person could do in that circumstance. Thank God arn has more common sense and composure than that. :cool:
Unprofessional- Yes
Hilarious- most certainly. :D
dsnort
Nov 20, 2006, 10:22 PM
Wow, who cuts his hair? ( Finds self spontaneously banned !)
~Shard~
Nov 20, 2006, 10:23 PM
Unprofessional- Yes
Hilarious- most certainly. :D
I'll give you that. ;)
milatchi
Nov 23, 2006, 06:58 PM
Alright Arn!
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