Arn on CNBC

[GroundLoop]

Congratulations to Arn on his interview about the rumored iPhone on "On the Money" on CNBC.

Way to represent the Mac/Apple user community.

Thanks,
Hickman

[Aperture]

What?? When was this??

Link?

Kevin

[WildCowboy]

Oh, so it wasn't just the morons from LoopRumors?

[GroundLoop]

What?? When was this??

Link?

Kevin

I wish I had a Tivo to record it. Arn and the CEO (?) of LoopRumors were on CNBC discussing the iPhone rumors. I guess it was about 7:05pm to 7:10pm eastern time.

Hickman

[Aperture]

Thats pretty cool. Did anyone Tivo it/etc?

I hope it gets posted online.

[mad jew]

Don't look directly at arn in the face 'cause it'll burn your retinas into the back of your skull.

[thedude110]

Don't look directly at arn in the face 'cause it'll burn your retinas into the back of your skull.

I missed it, but I'm kinda glad.

I mean, if Arn weren't an abstraction, I'm not sure I could go on.

But seriously -- Arn. Congrats on the interview. Bet you never thought this site would bring you -- and all of us -- where it has.

[Peace]

WOW!!

arn's famous now..

I suppose he will become smug and self centered now..:p

[katie ta achoo]

Is it on youtube anywhere yet??

I wanna see! Was arn in the shadows with a blurred voice?

[dmw007]

A big hearty congratulations to arn! :) :) :)

[xsedrinam]

Thats pretty cool. Did anyone Tivo it/etc?

I hope it gets posted online.
Ya, pass the news on if it's posted. I'd like to read/see it.

[LimeiBook86]

Aw man I missed it. :( Come onnnn YouTube :cool: ;)

[~Shard~]

I'd really like to see this! is this true??? If so, congrats arn, I had no idea you would even be up for doing something like this! I must say I'm pleasantly shocked if this indeed our arn you speak of... :o ;) :D

[Flowbee]

So DigiTimes makes it onto the front page today, but no mention of THIS?!

[WildCowboy]

So DigiTimes makes it onto the front page today, but no mention of THIS?!

arn's a modest man...but now that he's been spotted, his cover has been blown.

[~Shard~]

arn's a modest man...but now that he's been spotted, his cover has been blown.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I find this so surprising! But as I said, this is great - I'd love to see the footage! :)

[GroundLoop]

Unfortunately the clip was not posted with the other show clips. But the PS3 clips that opened the show is on there. So, we have to hope that someone in the world caught it on with a tivo.

If CNBC posts it, it will show up here:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/cnbc/tv/cnbcvideohighlights.aspx

Thanks,
Hickman

[pknz]

http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm??g=c431a17f-13d0-438d-b806-67877543de6a&f=rssmoney&fg=rss&f=15/64rssmoney

Shot arn!

[GroundLoop]

http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm??g=c431a17f-13d0-438d-b806-67877543de6a&f=rssmoney&fg=rss&f=15/64rssmoney

Shot arn!

Great find.

Enjoy!

Thanks,
Hickman

[mad jew]

Who's the grey haired interviewer guy? He's a wanker.

[quagmire]

IMHO, Bob got owned by the host of the show! lol Good job Arn though.

[WildCowboy]

Who's the grey haired interviewer guy? He's a wanker.

Dylan Ratigan. And yes.

arn certainly came off as the better of the two...not that Dylan gave them much of a chance.

[rdowns]

Nice job Arn. Well spoken. The host was a jerk- didn't let the jerl from Loop Rumors speak.

[katie ta achoo]

I just finished watching it. Awesome, Arn!! :) The host just doesn't get it though! :p :rolleyes:

*waits for macrumors to slow down because of massive flood of visitors from cnbc*

[iPhil]

Good job Arn on the cnbc segment on the iPhone :D :D

very informative on the iPhone

[ibook30]

Well done arn !
You were very articulate and made great points!

The interviewer was pushy, but I think he had a mental list of points he wanted to make. Possibly including exposing a fanboy mentality about Apples "cool" cred. He was sensationalizing a quick segment with gusto.

(kinda funny I watched the video on a MSN site...)

[Vader]

Yeah, he was a jerk to bob. Arn did an excellent job!

[spicyapple]

arn is a real person!

Oh, wow. I feel sorry for the LoopRumors dude. That was pretty intense. arn got away relatively unscathed. :)

[longofest]

Digg Link for the front page story:

http://www.digg.com/apple/CNBC_Interviews_MacRumors_Founder_On_iPhone

[atszyman]

I always thought Arn was a lot like God in that he didn't have to prove he existed and we just had to believe....

I am now awaiting the end of the world...

See, y'all on the other side...

[Peace]

Now I see why MacRumors is THE site!!

arn..You ARE the man!

[AoWolf]

Man I always thought of arn as old hippy. Guess not!

[arn]

Thanks for the comments guys... and yes, I've generally been pretty private.... I believe this is the first image of me publicly available on the internet.

By the way, a suit is not my normal attire... but seemed most appropriate for an interview. :)

arn

[GroundLoop]

Thanks for the comments guys... and yes, I've generally been pretty private.... I believe this is the first image of me publicly available on the internet.

By the way, a suit is not my normal attire... but seemed most appropriate for an interview. :)

arn

Hopefully you don't ban me for pointing this out to the world... ;)

The real question is...

When will Dr. Q capture an image and put it into the MacRumors Photo Directory?

Hickman

[Dagless]

Nice one, Arn :D

[longofest]

arn is a real person!

Oh, wow. I feel sorry for the LoopRumors dude. That was pretty intense. arn got away relatively unscathed. :)

Arn got away from the brunt of the guy's fierceness, but I think a lot of that credit goes to Arn. His points were coherent and he didn't try to sidetrack into other parts of Apple's business. In a word, Arn didn't come off as a fanboy, and the interviewer appreciated that, and gave Arn a fair shake.

As for arn being a real person... I still think he's a sock puppet. ;)

[spicyapple]

Man I always thought of arn as old hippy. Guess not!
He's just a normal kid, eh? ;)

[mmmcheese]

That host is a dick...

[miketcool]

Congrats Arn!:)

[tech4all]

That was pretty cool to see arn on TV (well website). Just goes to show you how good this site really is! :)

[Grimace]

Sheesh, that reporter was such a....well, you finish the sentence!

[corywoolf]

Arn, good job. I am sure it is really difficult to not screw up when you are thinking about how millions of viewers are watching you live. I wish you had more time to shut down the Microsoft loving host. The show's set up so it's virtually impossible to have time to do that. The host was just trying to re-enforce the stereotypes and had little knowledge of the reality. The whole 95% market share it skewed. He needs to compare stop comparing Apple to the entire PC market, and start comparing Apple to Dell or HP (a single company). Lets see Dell create their own OS and see how well that goes.

[irmongoose]

Hey, great job there... that jerk of an interviewer really got to the LoopRumors guy but you kept your cool. Congratulations, arn, that was quite awesome!



irmongoose

[mcarnes]

Nice job Arn. That anchor was a real ahole.

[caccamolle]

...and of course that crap friggin microsoftcacca videocrap player manages to crash Safari, fisrt time in FORVER!!!!!

[twoodcc]

Who's the grey haired interviewer guy? He's a wanker.

yeah he is....what a prick :mad:

but anyways, congrats Arn! and now everyone finally got to see you ;)

[kretzy]

Nice work arn!:)

That interviewer was a complete and utter wanker though.

[~Shard~]

Wow, this is excellent - great job arn, I'm impressed! You were very well-spoken and came across and very professional, knowledgeable and well-prepared. Hats off to you! :cool:

[justflie]

Lol, Bob didn't know what was going on and the interviewer let him have it for wasting his time. Oh well. That interviewer is probably used to intelligent people who know what they're talking about. That's why Arn was treated well. He presented his facts well, was well spoke, and was well received. Rock on man, maybe I should get rid of my looprumors widget now...:)

[bbarnhart]

Nice job Arn, you're a classy guy.

[evilgEEk]

I believe this is the first image of me publicly available on the internet.
I was thinking this as I was watching. Now we all know who you are and what you look like! ;)

But seriously, you did a great job and represented the site and Mac fans alike very well!

[nbs2]

By the way, a suit is not my normal attire... but seemed most appropriate for an interview. :)
I thought it looked quite nice - I'm kind of sick of the "blogger in jeans" that seems to come up too often in news interviews.

I got kind of bored with the whole story, so I didn't watch the whole thing, but question - how much lead time did you have between the request and actual interview?

[swingerofbirch]

I clicked but then quickly closed the window before he came on.

I've before been ruined of a radio show when I've finally seen a picture of the host. I didn't want a repeat of that.

[Buschmaster]

Congrats arn!

Very great to see the community represented so greatly!

I agree with all the comments about the interviewer in this thread.

Asks a question, doesn't even wait for a full answer and blasts the guys "answer." That poor guy...

[Allotriophagy]

"But...WHERE IS THE INNOVATION????"

"Ummmm...ummm...umm...there are rumours about touch screen phones..."

[EricNau]

Congrats Arn! ...You went from a mysterious individual to a national celebrity in a matter of minutes! ...I'm impressed! :D

You handled yourself very well on camera.

[monke]

By the way, a suit is not my normal attire...

Just a wild guess, but blue jeans and a grey turtle anyone? :p

Great interview, nailed all the questions that host through at you, though he wasn't much of a host.

[Mtn Tamale]

Arn you did a great job with poise and professionalism. Very articulate. That poor guy, Bob. How ambarrassing!

[Nicky G]

Apple's innovation is, I think, their pursuit of perfection in the interface of people and technology -- pretty much what Arn was getting at. I'm kind of disappointed, I should add, as I always thought that Arn was a highly advanced AI currently living on an Xserve cluster that became obsessed with Macs.

But all you have to say is, Apple makes the most enjoyable computer to use. They make the most enjoyable music player to use. And likely, they will make the most enjoyable phone to use.

And whenever anybody says Apple only has 5% of the market, all you have to say is, they are one of the top few computer manufacturers in terms of units sold, and their computing division is HIGHLY profitable, generating a few hundred million in net profit each quarter these days! How is that not successful?

[ClaphamChris]

Great performance, and even better for someone who's obviously a private kind of fella.

The anchor is hard - good journalist, to be honest (am one myself) and asked the right questions.

Arn played it perfect. Big kudos and super to see you.

Lurker and not usual poster, but that interview has prompted me to say great stuff. And thanks for the site. Was sure that it was run by a very canny guy (it could only be as fantastic as is it is if it was). My suspicions were completely confirmed.

Hope you enjoyed it.

[Silentwave]

Great Job Arn!

I do have to say you're not at all what I expected. I almost thought it would be some über geek who would hide behind a cinema display all day listening to an iPod and doing all sorts of secret communication with insiders 24/7/365 :p

The host was a real ****. I hope he gets crabs. Or Ebola. Or something cool sounding like Guillain-Barre.

They accuse us of being fanboys, but the misinformation and myths out there make them the fanboys.

[KindredMAC]

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You rocked man! Way to keep your composure!

Dylan is such an ass.

Apple did NOT need the iPod to sell computers, we still would have anyways.

Look at FireFox. How many people said 2-3 years ago that no one could unseat the mighty IE? Now look at the percentage numbers!

Guys like Dylan have their heads so far up their own asses that they don't realize how simple minded they are being in their comments.

[Grakkle]

Cool, arn looks just like I would have expected! No surprise they had him on - what other mac site compares with glorious macrumors! None, of course.:p

[crazzyeddie]

Am I the only one who can't play this video? MSN says I don't have flash installed, but Adobe and YouTube, etc... all say I have it installed and it works perfectly. I've tried both Camino and Firefox...

[SeaFox]

I'll have to check it out when I get home (at work and can't be playing audio over the computer's speakers).

I wonder how much this will increase traffic/forum members on MacRumors?

[jericho53]

Congrats Arn! The host seemed to be a prick though.

[shadowfax]

Great performance, and even better for The anchor is hard - good journalist, to be honest (am one myself) and asked the right questions.

Why do you think he is a good journalist? I thought he was half a good journalist. I agree with you that he asked the right questions, but he was quite rude and very curt about things. Granted, Bob definitely was speaking as a fanboy and starting a tangent, but the guy really hounded him right as (I felt) he was about to come to the point, which wasted more time than he would have if he'd just let the guy finish.

I dunno, I could never respect anyone who was discourteous, no matter how talented he might be.

Kudos, arn, I thought that was really impressive. Going on TV seems like a hard thing to me for the inexperienced--it's gotta be really easy to make a total fool out of yourself in 2 minutes, as I am sure I would. You came off classy, much classier than either of the other two guys. Congrats!

[Lord Blackadder]

This makes all those hours at the keyboard worthwhile, right? :D

Congrats on making it to national TV!

(I had to over-emphazise the boldness of my thumbs-up there, I swear I did it on purpose)

[absurdio]

Arn, good job. I am sure it is really difficult to not screw up when you are thinking about how millions of viewers are watching you live. I wish you had more time to shut down the Microsoft loving host. The show's set up so it's virtually impossible to have time to do that. The host was just trying to re-enforce the stereotypes and had little knowledge of the reality. The whole 95% market share it skewed. He needs to compare stop comparing Apple to the entire PC market, and start comparing Apple to Dell or HP (a single company). Lets see Dell create their own OS and see how well that goes.

I was thinking the exact same thing. You're completely right.
Also, I have not a single kind word for that host. I don't take kindly to idiots.
...and I am amazed by the variety of ways he managed to pronounce the phrase "iPod." Burn.

Arn, you're a gentleman and an articulate human being. Kudos. ...even if you aren't a mystery, anymore.

[scu]

It think it was ironic that the host was trying downplay the importance of an Apple iPhone, while the screen was posting a big jump in Apple stock price.

We need to have a follow up interview so the host can explain why Apple was able to sell millions of phones just because they were cool.:D

[OhEsTen]

Who's the grey haired interviewer guy? He's a wanker.

No kidding. What an a**hole.... I can't stand those Bill ORiley-esque "interviewers" those that raise an argument but don't want to hear the answer...

P.S. Good job Arn.

[sarge]

That was pretty slick for a first appearance Arn. A suit is always nice, just as long as you stay away from any kind of crazy shirt and tie patterns and bad color combos. They otherwise distract from even the best delivered answers- (or so my media trainer girlfriend tells me). I bet you get booked again after this!

[SFVCyclone]

Thats so Awesome, congrats ARN!!!!!

[OhEsTen]

Guys like Dylan have their heads so far up their own asses that they don't realize how simple minded they are being in their comments.

Or as Wild Bill' Guarnere once said:

"[Dylan's] head is so far up his ****** ass that the lump in his throat is his nose"

[jaykk]

That interviewer is an anti-apple guy, i saw him before, he always praises M$..

Congrats Arn..

[Play Ultimate]

Lol, Bob didn't know what was going on and the interviewer let him have it for wasting his time. Oh well. That interviewer is probably used to intelligent people who know what they're talking about. That's why Arn was treated well. He presented his facts well, was well spoke, and was well received. Rock on man, maybe I should get rid of my looprumors widget now...:)

I suspect that the suit/tie helped present a more mainstream and professional image rather than a nice t-shirt.

Also, each of these interviews are alloted only a small segment of time. They interviewers expect fast, quick, coherent answers. Arn did a great job in speaking the facts and answering the questions directly.

[Cooknn]

Arn handled that guy well! Nice job buddy. You make us proud :D

[clayj]

Good job, Arn! :)

But dude... you gotta get a new tie for next time you're on TV. :p

[ero87]

haha yeah, the looprumors guy had NOTHING to say...

"two hands on a touch-screen at once!" ...i guess he's reffering to that random patent that was sortof connected to apple...

Arn kicked butt though :)

[Peace]

Wanna know why the guy was a jerk?

cnbc (http://www.cnbc.com)

[iSaint]

That host is a dick...

I agree.

My own kids are talking back to me everyday. My high school kids have no respect for adults whatsoever. It's no wonder the way they see people pushing each other all time.

/rant

But dude... you gotta get a new tie for next time you're on TV.

hint hint

[me_94501]

Way to go Arn! :D

[OhEsTen]

Wanna know why the guy was a jerk?

cnbc (http://www.cnbc.com)

That is so true... if there was a top 3 list of companies that publicly acknowledge that they swing from Bill Gates' nard sack, cnbc would be one of them.

(cnet would follow closely behind)

[caliguy]

...and of course that crap friggin microsoftcacca videocrap player manages to crash Safari, fisrt time in FORVER!!!!!

Yeah it crashed mine three times.

Well what do you expect from a Microsoft payed anchor... 5% market share doesn't tell how innovative a company is. What an ass.

Edit: Awesome job BTW arn!

[justflie]

Wanna know why the guy was a jerk?

cnbc (http://www.cnbc.com)

lol, totally true. The irony of watching this story about Apple on an msn feed was not lost on me. :p

[decksnap]

That was really funny. I was watching when it came on and never saw the subtitle 'Macrumors'.

By the way, the host may have come off as a dick... but this show 'On the Money' really is a pretty good show. I highly recommend it. A lot of good tech stuff, stock analysis, business deals and the like... it's a real good insight into the various sides of business as a whole. And when you see him be 'curt' with various other guests, you'll realize he's not biased. He just talks through people. It usually makes me laugh.

Edit: for example, I've heard them ripping on the XBox as well as the Zune.

[4God]

Great job Arn! Makes me proud to be a member of MacRumors.com.
That host though, he made me so angry I don't think I can repeat the
words that I was thinking as I watched.

[Philberttheduck]

Arn was very cool. The host was a ****ing douchebag to the other insider, attacking essentially Apple in general. Arn definitely handled everything pretty professionally, whereas the other guy looked overwhelmed.

The host seemed "anti-Apple" or at least won't give Apple mac computers its fair credit. Fagle.

[Peace]

That is so true... if there was a top 3 list of companies that publicly acknowledge that they swing from Bill Gates' nard sack, cnbc would be one of them.

(cnet would follow closely behind)

Not only that but arn and the LoopRumors guy were referred to as "bloggers"

I wasn't aware MacRumors was a blogsite.

Shows how much Microsnot knows about blogging.

[theBB]

I clicked but then quickly closed the window before he came on.

I've before been ruined of a radio show when I've finally seen a picture of the host. I didn't want a repeat of that.
Well, I watched the whole clip, but I know what you mean. I saw a few NPR show hosts on TV and I wish I had not. "Oh, look at this weird mustache, how can anyboyd take him seriuosly." Younger, older, whiter etc. than I imagined... In my mind, I had an image of arn in the shape of his avatar. Now he is a guy in a suit, very much looking like a mortal. :)

[bluebomberman]

Good work. You made the Apple faithful look real good. (Unlike the other dude...he had FANBOY stamped across his forehead.)

[JMax1]

I've always wanted to get on an interview like this one where the host poses questions that he wants to interrupt the answer and just not answer. I'd just let him talk and talk and then when he asked me if I was going to answer I could just say that I was going to wait until he was finished and not going to say anything when I was talking.

"Ya finished talkin' yet? I'm ready when you are."

[bretm]

I've always wanted to get on an interview like this one where the host poses questions that he wants to interrupt the answer and just not answer. I'd just let him talk and talk and then when he asked me if I was going to answer I could just say that I was going to wait until he was finished and not going to say anything when I was talking.

"Ya finished talkin' yet? I'm ready when you are."

Yeah, it's been done. His name was Ross Perot. Let me know how that all works out for you. :)

Does anyone else think it's odd that the Microsoft Video web site uses flash 9 and not windows media?

[gekko513]

Aggressive interviewers who don't let the the interviewee speak bug me. Poor looprumors guy, but arn did will.

[mrkramer]

Does anyone have a different link that won't crash Safari? I want to watch it.

[wmmk]

whoa! my central beliefs are all shaken!
i had honestly begun to believe that arn was just an alias of the communtiy of the MR mods when I got no response to an email to arn about sending cash to become a demi. then, i realized that that wouldn't make sense, and i imagined arn was some old guy with like a 9 foot long beard and a purple robe and huge wooden staff with greek characters on it and fire coming out of his nostrils and fingertips who has a voice deeper than any voice I'd ever heard.
then he's just this nice, normal looking guy on TV who's probably younger than my parents!

[scottlinux]

Am I the only one who can't play this video? MSN says I don't have flash installed, but Adobe and YouTube, etc... all say I have it installed and it works perfectly. I've tried both Camino and Firefox...

Yeah only worked in Safari for me. Blame CNBC aka MSNBC for making an inoperable webpage.

[XNine]

that a boy arn, dress like a pimp and show up looprumors on television. MACRUMORS REPRESENT!

[Peace]

Does anyone have a different link that won't crash Safari? I want to watch it.

If you have Flip4Mac installed go to system preferences and select open in quicktime on the Flip preference tab.Restart Safari then go to the link.
It should open in QT.

nevermind it's using flash

[mahonmeister]

Did anyone else think Arn was a grumpy old man before seeing this? Ha, sorry Arn. It certainly didn't sound like the name of a hip young guy who goes on CNBC. ;)

Woot! We're all famous. iPhones for everybody!

Such great composure and intelligent responses. Too bad the host was a jerk-off.

[cecildk9999]

Just a thought out of curiosity; doesn't Microsoft have some stake in NBC? So wouldn't they try to get talking heads onscreen that would bash the competition? The whole 95% thing just smacked of trying to convince people they would be backing the losing horse or something by supporting Apple.

I hate interviewers in general that just try to run over their guests; if you have someone on a show, at least let them finish their sentences :mad: . The host just seemed determined to be skeptical of an iPod phone (side note: my guess is an Apple/T-Mobile initial pairing for this device). The host's fascination on a device needing to be 'technologically interesting' to sell just misses the point of the advantages an iPhone could offer if properly integrated.

Kudos too, to arn for a successful appearance on national tv! It's nice to finally attach a face to a name :)

[RichP]

Congrats Arn! You came across as very knowledgible and concise as to the reasons why Apple does what Apple does so well!

Bring on the iPhone!

[OhEsTen]

Does anyone else think it's odd that the Microsoft Video web site uses flash 9 and not windows media?

Well Adobe and Microsoft are paramours....

Adobe is such a whore... ;)

[spicyapple]

Just a thought out of curiosity; doesn't Microsoft have some stake in NBC?
NBC and Microsoft both co-own MSNBC. But it came across more as general PC ignorance than some conglomerate conspiracy.

[clayj]

NBC and Microsoft both co-own MSNBC. But it came across more as general PC ignorance than some conglomerate conspiracy.Actually, Microsoft only owns 18% of MSNBC now... it's more of an investment for them than an actual business venture.

[notarysojac]

Hi - The coverage of the possible impending product release of an Apple iPhone was covered on CNBC (read: MicroSoftNetwork) and the fellow who was the host was incredibly rude to his guests. Talking heads are fine - it's when they feel it's civil to interrupt and shout down the other people that I hit the 'next-channel' button on my remote.

The fellow who was hosting the 'Insiders' segment came off as a threatened bully - added nothing - is obviously not a very intelligent person - disposition to Apple or positive or not - and did little to further HIS cause - which is the inspirationless void of the parent company for that network.

[IEatApples]

I just want to thank you Arn for making MacRumors into what it is today.
So thanks! :) :cool:

[RogueLdr]

Congratulations, Arn.

MacRumors has now been recognized by the MSM as a premier location for finding opinions about Apple's hypothetical advances. The "clearinghouse" mentality has served us all very well.

Thanks, Arn,

RL

[macman2790]

Just a thought out of curiosity; doesn't Microsoft have some stake in NBC? So wouldn't they try to get talking heads onscreen that would bash the competition? The whole 95% thing just smacked of trying to convince people they would be backing the losing horse or something by supporting Apple.

I hate interviewers in general that just try to run over their guests; if you have someone on a show, at least let them finish their sentences :mad: . The host just seemed determined to be skeptical of an iPod phone (side note: my guess is an Apple/T-Mobile initial pairing for this device). The host's fascination on a device needing to be 'technologically interesting' to sell just misses the point of the advantages an iPhone could offer if properly integrated.

Kudos too, to arn for a successful appearance on national tv! It's nice to finally attach a face to a name :)

that pissed me off, man did you see that bob guy's face when he said that 95% of computers aren't apple to him? He looked pretty offended. If that was me I would've asked him how many times a month he has to run norton antivirus (that can't always remove every virus, and especially not most spyware) to bog his system down instead of doing something productive on his PC. Or maybe he could just buy a mac and "limit himself to doing only graphics design stuff" like he said.

[Analog Kid]

Arn got away from the brunt of the guy's fierceness, but I think a lot of that credit goes to Arn. His points were coherent and he didn't try to sidetrack into other parts of Apple's business. In a word, Arn didn't come off as a fanboy, and the interviewer appreciated that, and gave Arn a fair shake.

As for arn being a real person... I still think he's a sock puppet. ;)
Agreed the LoopRumors guy wasn't the most sophisticated interviewee I've seen, but the interviewer sucks pretty bad too.

"Apple has a 95% lack of market saturation"? What the hell kind of sentence is that? I think there are journalism schools where trying to cover your ignorance with bogus grammar constructs like that is a hanging offense.

"If it weren't for the success of the iPod, Apple's computers would have been relegated to the graphics design world forever"? Gods, it sounds like a clip you'd find on MSN someplace...

I just kept growling "ease of use" between my teeth that whole time.

Well done, Arn. Good choice of tie.

[AppleIntelRock]

I'm pretty sure Arn is a nephrologist.

[theranch]

IMHO, Bob got owned by the host of the show! lol Good job Arn though.

I can't agree more. If you are going to be on a show like that please please get your facts down and be ready to represent.
He mentioned leopard as if the apps aren't available yet.
Arn however seemed ready for action.

[charlestrippy]

jeez - that guy was a complete prick.

[AppleIntelRock]

I can't agree more. If you are going to be on a show like that please please get your facts down and be ready to represent.
He mentioned leopard as if the apps aren't available yet.
Arn however seemed ready for action.

I HATED the leopard comment. This guy needs to go to SOR (school of arn)

[AndrewMT]

Perhaps Apple, after the release of the iPhone, could work on improving the interface and ease of use of news channel hosts :)

[Jovian9]

Well done Arn. You represented MacRumors and the Mac Community well.

[Object-X]

Congrats Arn! Well done.

The interviewer was a jerk but he did have a good question. What's the innovation? In a world saturated with cell phones, what does Apple bring to the table?

I thought there was a missed oppertunity here. Both Arn and the other guy were dancing around the issue but it came off like a non-starter. Arn's answer made the most sense by focusing on innovation and integration with iLife, but that point could have been driven home more by pointing out that most phones SUCK when it comes to their interface and integration; and Apple has a proven track record here. They were both saying it, but the argument just didn't come across with much froce of conviction.

Another thing that didn't get mentioned was the latest rumor of the Apple phone using a SIM card and will be sold as an "unlocked" phone. This would allow them to be used with a GSM network like Cingular or T-mobile. The phones success could have dramatic implications for the cell phone industry, changing the whold dynamic of how we buy phones. Rather than the freebies (that suck) with a two year lockin, you buy the phone and have more freedom with your service provider. Apple doesn't have to muck around with being a carrier or negotiating with them; they will just sell a phone that works on their networks. That's the big news here.

That would have shut that bozo up. :p

[Laslo Panaflex]

Posting in a legendary thread.

P.S.

That host was a dick head.

[p0intblank]

Wow! I have yet to watch the interview, but I just want to give you a major congratulations on snagging this great opportunity! :D I hope you had fun with it.

[dmw007]

Great job Arn! Makes me proud to be a member of MacRumors.com.



Same here, seeing arn representing MR on tv gave me a swelling of pride in my chest. :D :)

[Unorthodox]

What was the the city in the backdrop behind Arnold?

I'm pretty sure Arn is a nephrologist.
Me too. Did you see the way he kept looking at that guys stomach?

Same here, seeing arn representing MR on tv gave me a swelling of pride in my chest. :D :)
Oh my god! dmw007 is growing pride breasts!

[ReanimationLP]

Awesome job Arn! Looking quite snazzy too!

That host was a d****ebag.

[sushi]

http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm??g=c431a17f-13d0-438d-b806-67877543de6a&f=rssmoney&fg=rss&f=15/64rssmoney

Shot arn!
Very nice. Thanks! :D

[Kingsly]

Congrats Arn! You came across as very knowledgible and concise as to the reasons why Apple does what Apple does so well!


Ditto! Could this mean more of arnTV when it comes to Apple related news?

[colocolo]

I believe this is the first image of me publicly available on the internet.


Nope, not your first publicly available image...
Some time ago we got pics of your engagement party I believe it was? Brought down faster than Apple Legal though... ;)

[Danksi]

Took me a while to watch the whole interview, I guess there's a bunch of folks on here soaking up all of the bandwidth! :rolleyes:

Arn - finally a 'face' (suit n' tie!) to a name - well done, carried yourself very well through, what I'd say was a very differcult interview. Much stronger than the '...err... you know' other bloke.

Got to say, I dislike the way Apple's always seen as only 5% of the PC market company, as if there's someone out there with a whole 95% - it's shared amongst a few manufacturers, something which never seems to have enough time to point out.

Mobile/cell operators generally sell phones to make money through air-time, be-it voice calls, picture messaging, text messaging, email etc... they've never had the need to focus on integration with a computer as most of the services they provide are meant to be phone-to-phone, to make them more revenue from air-time. Hence why Verizon and others disable Bluetooth or USB connectivity for photo's, need your photo's, sure email them.. use up your air-time.

[dmw007]

Oh my god! dmw007 is growing pride breasts!


Your just jealous. ;) :p :cool:

[mhagerman]

clearly the interviewer owns a Zune

[Danksi]

clearly the interviewer owns a Zune

... that would certainly explain the apparent frustration.

[4God]

clearly the interviewer owns a Zune

LOLOLOL!! 62225 Yeah, I thought his face was a little red.

[mrkramer]

I finally got it working. Good job Arn. The interveiwer wasn't great, but he was better than I was expecting after reading all of the previous posts.

[xsedrinam]

Absolutely great job, Arn! Cool, calm, succinct and credible. And you answered the loaded innovation question which put Bob off and on the defensive by clearly stating the interface advantages and thereby defusing a tense situation. I think you won the day. Kudos. 1A.

[sonictonic]

The link does not work for me! :mad: All it does is load the page and then Firefox says it's done. No video loads at all!

And why are so many people obsessed with this poor guy's name? :( Bold print, CAPS, etc. :confused:

[jicon]

I liked that the interviewer put Bob in his place.

Investors want to know... what will iPhone bring to the table that isn't already available?

Bob tried down the old RDF route by mentioning elegance, Apple having wild success with their products, and innovation. I'm thankful the fanboy comments ended there.

Arn did a great job.

[Fukui]

Wow, what a sad "interview" that was. What the **** is wrong with our "newscasters" in America. All they do is try to rile up people for ratings... yes, thats why I threw away my TV.
Wow.

Edit: Yea, Arn, handled that well.

[p0intblank]

I just watched it. Overall it was a nice interview and you did a great job, Arn! I think the other guy did great as well. It was the reporter who just plain annoying. He sounded like the typical Windows user with the market share argument and wouldn't let Bob (his name, correct?) speak.

[MacinDoc]

Congrats, Arn, you came across as the only person in the "Insider" portion with any intelligence and class, the host came across as extremely rude and the LoopRumors guy seemed like he didn't know what he wa talking about.

I agree with the point that the iPhone has to be more than a phone that plays music and videos. The cell phone market is already too crowded as it is, and the combination of a phone with an MP3 player is not compelling enough. Apple wouldn't have needed 5 years to create a shiny white equivalent of the Chocolate. As some have suggested, 2-way video conferencing (since there is a rumored camera) could make this a killer device. Or, even better, if a PDA could also be integrated, this could be the holy grail of all hand-held devices, incorporating every portable electronic device you need or want into one (unlikely to happen, though, because taking on RIM could be a suicidal move).

What's unusual about the iPhone is that Apple's top executives are actually promoting speculation about the device, in stark contrast to their usual secrecy/evasiveness regarding unreleased products. IMO, they must be feeling that this will be Apple's biggest success in recent memory. I have the feeling that we will soon see what Apple envisioned the device to be when the company christened the music player "iPod" instead of some name related to its primary function (music) when it was introduced.

[wildmac]

Arn, you better watch out... now STEVE knows what you look like... :eek:

[NoNameBrand]

I always assumed with a name like "Arn" that Arn was Dutch.

Great job!

I thought the interviewer was a bit aggressive, but poor ol' Bob didn't have anything. "oooH! two finger touch screen." He should have just said that Apple has the fourth highest market share in the US in response to the 95% crap.

[mkrishnan]

Awww, you go, Arn! :D

[JRM PowerPod]

Yeah it crashed mine three times.

Well what do you expect from a Microsoft payed anchor... 5% market share doesn't tell how innovative a company is. What an ass.

Edit: Awesome job BTW arn!

Also that anchor dude was raving how if the iPhone grabbed a few percent of the market that it would be a success, yet Apple's computer market share is 5% and according to him unsuccessful.

Arn was definitely the only composed one, the other two would have punched on if they were in the same studio

[spicyapple]

By the way, a suit is not my normal attire... but seemed most appropriate for an interview. :)
Good call on wearing the suit!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/_spicyapple_/cnbc.jpg

[thirdwaver]

Yeah, he was a jerk to bob. Arn did an excellent job!

He's typical of the Apple antagonists out there. I guess he believes that McDonalds must serve better food than more expensive restaurants because they have 95% of the food business. *sigh*

You can't reason with people who are impressed with numbers. Apple has 5% of the computer business. GM has about 10% of the world's car market. Numbers shmumbers. Could Apple's market share be higher? Yup. I actually think it is. But we can either have a company that carefully innovates and makes great stuff or we can have a company that makes a knockoff MP3 player that doesn't even work with their latest OS. I'll take the former -- even with 5% market share.

P.S. Doesn't Apple have like 85% of the MP3 player market? Didn't they build that from scratch? Doesn't that mean *anything*?

[steebu]

Great work arn!

You sounded very knowledgable, poised, and didn't step beyond what you knew (unlike Bob). Have you gone through some media or public relations training in the past? If not, I think now is a good time I think you will get a lot more media exposure in the near future.

Guys, the host can't be blamed for being skeptical of an unreleased product – he is after all a journalist. Just because he questioned the success of the Mac doesn't mean he's a Microsoft zealot, he's simply trying to get to the bottom of the buzz.

[blueflame]

I know Arn is real, but yea, i never assumed to ever see him def the god of the site.
A
I always thought Arn was a lot like God in that he didn't have to prove he existed and we just had to believe....

I am now awaiting the end of the world...

See, y'all on the other side...

[matticus008]

What I don't understand is how 5% can be considered bad in the computer market. What's Dell's market share? 19% at best? Toshiba has what, 4%? For a finance- and business-oriented program, it seems odd to talk about Apple computers as a failure when it's one of the most successful hardware brands from one of the most successful tech companies in the world.

Irrespective of any quality assessments or loyalty to the brand, it's obvious that Apple does quite well for itself. It's not as though the other 95% is dominated by any one other player. Obviously the reference was to Windows' superior market share, but let's stick to comparing apples and Apples, you know?

[Groovey]

Well done Arn, you did great. Too bad the show host isn't too bright or polite. Really should be put out of job. Thank god I don't need to watch any more of him.

[dejo]

From this piece:
...sales of the iPod, which are already slowing down...
Wait, what? Slowing down? What gives 'em that idea? Certainly not Apple's last quarter (Q4 2006) financial results (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/18results.html), which stated "35 percent growth in iPods over the year-ago quarter".

[Multimedia]

That CNBC interviewer couldn't have been more rude and stupid toward both "guests". He treated them like they were both kind of dumb.

He couldn't stop bragging about how Apple only had a 5% computer market share and that the iPod saved the company. What a crock. :rolleyes:

[technocoy]

congrats Arn! great job representing...

I agree with everyone else about the host.

Apple not a success? news to me. show me how many other companies operate completely in the black with 9-10 billion in the bank.

[MacsomJRR]

Arn you rocked! Great job! Its been said about a billion times before but wow that interviewer guy is a jerk and a half.

[Shadow]

I had no idea Arn was chineese! But Chineese people are cool!:cool:

[840quadra]

That was great. Arn looked much more professional and presented himself much better than Bob Ward. The reporter also seemed to be more patent, and understanding of Arn's comments than Bob Ward! I am wondering if the Suit helped things out ?

Regardless, the reporter was a jerk, and doesn't understand Apple's marketshare based upon his comments, and attitude.

Good call on wearing the suit!

I think you have gone cross-eyed again! You need to swap clothes back to the proper person! ;)

[eji]

Like some other posters have said, I can understand the pressure that's involved when appearing on national television and being verbally steamrollered by a loudmouth host (why do they always talk five decibels louder than necessary?), but man, ol' Bob didn't do the Mac community any favors.

Apple is innovative because Apple is innovative. It's a fanboy mantra. And it's completely empty. This is what makes ordinary people see us as brainwashed, image-obsessed graphic designers, battling through life with our severely limited and cultish (albeit nice-looking) computers.

There's a real philosophy behind Apple's stuff -- one that gets muddied sometimes in execution, but it's still there, and it's what makes a device like an iPod an Apple, not the translucent white plastic or the cool factor. If you're heading a rumors site, even one as second-rate as LoopRumors, you should have a firm opinion on just what this philosophy is and how it makes an Apple product greater than the sum of its parts. Apple may only have a 5% computing market share (or 95% lack of market share), but that's largely because people cling to disproven myths and fail to see that there can be a legitimate form/function philosophy behind the box sitting on their desk that lets them view MySpace pages.

Again, I appreciate the pressure of national TV, but Bob made me cringe. Arn single-handedly saved the segment from rehashing narrow-minded tripe on both sides of the anchor's desk.

[sachamun]

congrats...

why did the interviewer give the other guy such a grilling? they were all just talking tech right? it sounded like they were negotiating a ceasefire or something!

"Can I finish?"

http://sachakloostra.com/canifinish.jpg

[eji]

I want to add a bit to my last post about this whole market share debate. It bugs the hell out of me because it's a red herring that Windows users, whether it's MS devotees or bovine Joe Public, love to toss out but has no substance whatever.

Popularity does not equal good. Lack of popularity does not equal bad. A band that makes it onto the hit charts is not necessarily a talented band; a computer that only has 5% of the market share is not necessarily inferior.

We hear this so many times. I personally come across this type of thinking (if you can call it thinking) weekly. Which is why it irks me even more that Bob, who was challenged directly with it by this jerk, didn't have a ready reply to this nonsense.

[Wikindie]

Good work Arn, I enjoyed watching the segment. No doubt we'll be seeing more of you soon. :P

/ryan

[aLoC]

Arn made a better account of himself than the other guy. But the questions were a bit silly, sounded like he wanted to know what the exact innovation was going to be.

Well, if we knew, it wouldn't be an innovation. You can just say general things (as Arn did) such as their strength is in UI.

[Dalriada]

That was a cool interview indeed. Nice job Arn and good to see MacRumors further establishing it's solid reputation on the Apple rumors front. Oh and glad to finally meet you :p

- Dal

[karlfranz]

Bob came out looking unprepared and maybe a bit weak because he was probably taken aback by the "host's" rudeness. Some people aren't as quick on their toes and need a bit of time to formulate a coherent response (Like George Costanza's "Jerk Store!"). This jerk didn't give Bob a chance before he started grilling him. For the same reason, I think Arn came out looking much better - he had time to listen to the grilling, digest it, and come up with a clear, concise answer. He may also be more eloquent and a quick thinker.

Also, why does an Apple phone need to be innovative to be successful? He seemed to imply that people would buy it only on the merit of its coolness factor. Well, the Razor isn't extremely innovative and we all know how ubiquitous that phone is right now. Cool sells.

[pixelpp]

youtube video for those that hate WMP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_NHpW2smvg

I also totally agree with corywoolf's comment, its Apple vs Dell -OR- HP -OR- Sony -OR- gateway etc. NOT Apple vs Everyone. That's just stupid...

[SeaFox]

Just finished watching the video (off Google) and Wow, that interviewer IS a total git! And LoopRumors was caught like a deer in headlights with his rather O'Reily-ish interview techniques. Don't have something smart/agreeable to say immediately? Get shouted over so you can never recover.

Arn even had trouble getting a word across, but he did come though with conveying what it is that makes the iPhone such a wanted product idea. Many phones can play MP3's now, but the functionality is so trapped beneath horrible UIs that consumer rarely use the functionality when it's there. The wish is for a phone that isn't packed with every feature under the sun but enough that it's powerful and at the same time these features are accessible from an interface with the same intuitiveness as the iPod.

[eji]

(Like George Costanza's "Jerk Store!").

:) Yeah, maybe I'm being too hard on Bob. I don't know how I'd have fared in similar circumstances, but it was so frustrating to see him just fall back on the "innovative" mantra at the slightest provocation.

Cool sells.

Yes, but I think the host wanted, in his obnoxious way, some substance to back up the style. What is the iPhone going to give us that isn't already available? The problem is, it's all just speculation. We won't know how the iPhone is "innovative" until it arrives. Maybe this was the best tack for Bob to have taken: you don't know what makes an Apple product unique until Jobs introduces it with full vibe power from the RDF.

[Prom1]

Arn!

Congratulations on the Interview. You finally have a face and hoping YOUR market share will also increase. That other dude got BEATUP harsh. Funny when challenged jsut on the sake of market share nobody mentioned Apple's cash ready at hand and revenues for the last qtr.

> Funny how NOBODY did their research on music phones on the market like SE with a great market share in this realm with a VERY good interface, multitasking phone/java options WHILE music plays (unless of couse a phone conversation is active).

> I still think the greatest innovation/revolution (because APPLE wont be the first to offer this) is seemless phone quality conversations, video calling & integrate your wireless phone with the iTMS wirelessly OR via USB. Most importantly on the iPhone device security will be top notch in case its stolen (remember those iPod rollings ;) ) and a possible OTA kill or whipe function similar to the RIM Blackberry devices that are on the BES server. THIS will be INCREDIBLE!

[neesley]

Congrats bro. Very happy for you. Keep up the good work.

[KingYaba]

Why all the Dylan Ratigan bashing? He is a fine reporter.

[NVRsayNVR]

Nice work Arn! You make us proud. :cool:

[redAPPLE]

Thanks for the comments guys... and yes, I've generally been pretty private.... I believe this is the first image of me publicly available on the internet.

By the way, a suit is not my normal attire... but seemed most appropriate for an interview. :)

arn

it was surely the suit. people get taken more seriously. looprumors dude was wearing a t-shirt and he was massacred out there.

[dernhelm]

Another interview where the interviewer was more interested in promoting himself, than he was in promoting the topic. "Hmm - if I make the interviewees look and feel like idiots everyone will think I'm cool!'.

Arn handled the "tough guy" tactics pretty well, the poor dude from LoopRumors was clearly frustrated.

[serralves]

I hope the UK doesn't end up with crappy pseudo information bulletins like these but we probably will. It was less of a TV program and more like someone shouting at you. Its interesting that they said that music mobile phones haven't fared well. On my bus every morning, I see almost as many people listening to music on mobiles as I do iPods. I can never fathom the popularity of the iPhone idea but if it had a decent capacity (between 4 and 8GB) then i'd probably tow the line :rolleyes: and get one. Especially if there was a project red one.

[redAPPLE]

I had no idea Arn was chineese! But Chineese people are cool!:cool:

*lol* this is off-topic but it just made me laugh. i read "cheese".

[dmw007]

From this piece:

Wait, what? Slowing down? What gives 'em that idea? Certainly not Apple's last quarter (Q4 2006) financial results (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/18results.html), which stated "35 percent growth in iPods over the year-ago quarter".

I know, I screamed the same thing at my computer when I heard him say that. :mad: :rolleyes:

*lol* this is off-topic but it just made me laugh. i read "cheese".

I love Cheese people too. ;) :D

[abrooks]

I hope the UK doesn't end up with crappy pseudo information bulletins like these but we probably will. It was less of a TV program and more like someone shouting at you. Its interesting that they said that music mobile phones haven't fared well. On my bus every morning, I see almost as many people listening to music on mobiles as I do iPods. I can never fathom the popularity of the iPhone idea but if it had a decent capacity (between 4 and 8GB) then i'd probably tow the line :rolleyes: and get one. Especially if there was a project red one.

Agreed on the TV bit, I'm so glad I don't have to watch American TV.

But your phone comment is correct but the report was focused on the US market where phones haven't quite progressed as much as they have in the UK, I can't count the number of time I've seen a business man walking down an American street with what looks like a brick with a 2 foot antenna! :eek:

[howard]

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the 5/95% market share the OS market share? ie: 95% of the market uses and os different than os x?

Whats the computer sales market numbers? I though Apple was 3rd behind Dell and HP.

[solvs]

Why all the Dylan Ratigan bashing? He is a fine reporter.

Because he was kinda mean to Bob. :p Seriously though, I'm guessing it's because he made a comment, however correct, about Apple's lack of market share. Implying that innovation has something to do with popularity, which is not always correct. Except in the case of the iPod. Maybe he could have made his point better, or at least let Looprumors guy finish his.

Nice to add a face to the username Arn, you're all famous now and stuff.

[dextertangocci]

Well done ARN!!!!

So you are a real person!!!:D

[rosalindavenue]

Great to finally see Arn, who did a fine job on CNBC. He certainly handled that obnoxious interviewer better than the other guy. Its kind of interesting that the producers went with 2 pro-apple folks, rather than, say, Arn and Rob "Apple is going out of business" Enderle, or Arn and Paul "Microsoft is awesome" Thurrott.

(actually its not all that fair to bash Thurrott-- he crushed (http://www.internet-nexus.com/2006/11/microsoft-zune.htm) Zune this week)

[bwintx]

When are not only this guy but also most of the other obnoxious hyper-capitalists at CNBC going to wind up at their obvious final destination -- namely, Fox News?

Oh, BTW -- nice job, Arn.

[lOUDsCREAMEr]

I had no idea Arn was chineese! But Chineese people are cool!:cool:

KIM is a common family name in Korea..

[fixyourthinking]

The guy from Looprumors was a dolt - ARN was very poised and looked like he knew what he was talking about. The guy from Looprumors made us all look stupid.

[RodThePlod]

Arn,

YOO DA MAN!!!

:D

[sushi]

clearly the interviewer owns a Zune
You may be right. ;)

It does seem like he is trying to downplay the iPod/iPhone as much as possible.

[dmw007]

Whats the computer sales market numbers? I though Apple was 3rd behind Dell and HP.


Apple is in 3rd place for computer sales, right behind Dell & HP. :) A little fact that the host failed to mention- I guess that it just makes him feel better to say that Apple only has a 5% share of the market.:rolleyes:

[decksnap]

When are not only this guy but also most of the other obnoxious hyper-capitalists at CNBC going to wind up at their obvious final destination -- namely, Fox News?

Oh, BTW -- nice job, Arn.

It's pretty obvious to me that nobody here watches the show. The interviewer is pushy with everybody. In an hour long show they rip through tons of content. It's just fast-paced, so he pushes the questions through when people start to stutter or go 'ummm'.

[brepublican]

The guy from Looprumors made us all look stupid.
Hey! Speak for yourself! :rolleyes:

I think Arn represented us quite well out there. Good job buddy! :)

[CEAbiscuit]

Great Job Arn. Noticed you got the interviewer to come around toward the end. As an investor, those are the same questions I would ask. However, I would probably let people finish. But when the BS meter goes off , that's when I interupt. Looprumors guy, sorry, the meter was high... blank stares don't have much cred. Gotta prepare...

[freeny]

Wow! That host was a real dick. How did he get that job anyway?
Why even ask a question if you dont plan on letting your guest answer?

Why was the interviewer asking about why this will be innovative when no one really knows what the phone will do or even if the thing exists? All there is to ride on right now is the reputatiion of Apple and a rumor.

If all of Apples success is related only to the success of the ipod then it would be logical for me to say the only reason for the success of the PC is that they are cheap.:rolleyes:

Arn looks nothing like I imagined him to be.

I found the whole story to be nothing but pap (To no fault of arns of course).

[prady16]

Now we just got to make it to the front page of NYT! :D

[dmw007]

Arn looks nothing like I imagined him to be.



What? No angels flying about, bright lights, or bolts of lightning? ;) :D :)

[Squonk]

Well done ARN!!!

When you think about it, it was a stupid question from the host: "What innovations will this new phone have?"

Well, let's see - Apple is notorious for their secrecy and everyone out there is speculating!!! Gees!! You bring on people from rumor sites and then want them to nail down specifics??

Stupid is as stupid does..

[Squonk]

How the footage loop from the Apple store had iBooks in it! Gees CNBC, how about you try and stay current, eh? :mad:

[roland.g]

The interviewer, Dylan, was a complete ass. It's unfortunate. While I understood where he was trying to go with his question about inovation, he posed it poorly and then wouldn't let them respond. What a jerk.

[~Shard~]

How the footage loop from the Apple store had iBooks in it! Gees CNBC, how about you try and stay current, eh? :mad:

Yeah, I notced that too - that and the fact that it was about a 20-second clip which they just looped over and over about 16 times... ;)

[autrefois]

Congrats, arn!! Great interview, you handled yourself very well on TV. I would never have thought by watching it that this was your first national TV appearance ever!

You did a good job of presenting info about and discussing the possible iPhone without sounding like a fanboy and without relying on stuff no one is sure about. It was obvious Bob the Fruit Loops guy, or wherever he's from :), was just grasping at straws and decided to mention the touchpad aspect. You bringing up the integration and the usability of the interface of iPod as an example of Apple's innovation was a lot better, I thought.

I thought the interviewer was very abrasive and rude, but he did have a valid line of questioning overall. Bob didn't handle it well, but you did. Hopefully your half of the interview not only made the Apple community look good, but also made Macrumors look good, too. I wonder if there will be some more traffic from people who are curious after seeing that segment.

Anyway, great job!!!! :)

[Don't panic]

he called arn "arn" once.

he must be a fellow MRer!

:shifty eyes:

[Poff]

I liked the markedshare argument. :D Bob was clearly pissed.. :p

[DavidCar]

I can't get much of the video. It plays for a few seconds, then quits.

[solvs]

How the footage loop from the Apple store had iBooks in it! Gees CNBC, how about you try and stay current, eh? :mad:

And signs for 1-4GB iPod nanos. Least they weren't showing the iPod minis. :p It's probably stock footage someone pulled from a vault somewhere. Surprised it's as current as it is.

I guess I never really thought about what Arn looked like...

[autrefois]

I guess I never really thought about what Arn looked like...

I am surprised we haven't seen a post saying

"I am the great and powerful Arn...Pay no attention to that man on CNBC!"

:)

[puttputt]

yes, the host (nobody knows his name and there is no reason to learn or remember it) is a rude, pushy, arrogant, and seemingly unintelligent person. I was dumbfounded why he tried to serve up a notion that the iphone would be just another phone/mp3 player and that the Apple logo would be it's most intriguing feature. The moronic host must have never touched a Mac or iPod before or he'd know: an Apple product isn't just cool becuase of the logo/brand... it's cool because it has extraordinary features and extraordinary interface. If (well, when) Apple releases an iPhone I am certain it will exceed everyone's expectations. Unlike Mr. CNN Host.

Hopefully he's got a few spare minutes to read these posts. I wonder what kind of market share a late night CNN host gets?

[aLoC]

Because he was kinda mean to Bob. :p Seriously though, I'm guessing it's because he made a comment, however correct, about Apple's lack of market share. Implying that innovation has something to do with popularity, which is not always correct. Except in the case of the iPod. Maybe he could have made his point better, or at least let Looprumors guy finish his.

But Microsoft got their 95% by ditching DOS and copying the Mac, so Apple's computer innovations were actually successful, just not for them. :)

[DrFrankTM]

arn's a modest man...but now that he's been spotted, his cover has been blown.

I respect him a lot more for that. A "hey! I was on TV!" attitude would have felt a little out of place. That said, it would have been a shame if no one had spotted the segment though. Thanks to longofest for posting the story. It's really nice to finally put a face on the founder of my favorite website and online community. Keep up the good work, Arn! :D

[vi2867]

I liked how Arn did not try to predict what this iPhone is going to have. We just don't know what this phone is going to have. The other guy tried to explain what it will probably have, and it did come off to well.

I am starting to believe that the Touchscreen iPod Video was scratched, and Apple has decided to integrate the Touchscreen iPod Video with phone capabilities.

That is my dream of having all the iPod capabilities, and some os x features like mail, ical, and iphoto on my phone, with no restrictions...:)

[matthewHUB]

Oh my goodness Arn i did not expect you to be Korean! Yay! Not sure why... just thought you may be texan, hidden away somewhere in the nether-regions of the US... With a dial-up 28.8 modem. Your provider can't extend you the bandwidth to upgrade to 56k lol.

Anyway, i digress, great job yesterday. Was annoyed that i had to visit a microsoft site though to watch it! They get money from all those ads eeeeeeeek!

[~Shard~]

yes, the host (nobody knows his name and there is no reason to learn or remember it) is a rude, pushy, arrogant, and seemingly unintelligent person.

...

Mr. CNN Host.

...

I wonder what kind of market share a late night CNN host gets?

Take the time to get your facts straight before you start bad-mouthing. This segment was broadcasted on CNBC not CNN. :cool: At least the crappy foolish host knows what network he broadcasts on... :p ;)

[shelterpaw]

Arn you performed admirably. Smart of you not to speculate on product features and functionality and to focus on what Apple has already done well. It left little room for the interviewer to attack you, a mistake the other interviewee made.

I read your post about how you normally do not wear suits, but you could have picked out a better tie. :p

[Don't panic]

yes, the host (nobody knows his name and there is no reason to learn or remember it) is a rude, pushy, arrogant, and seemingly unintelligent person. I was dumbfounded why he tried to serve up a notion that the iphone would be just another phone/mp3 player and that the Apple logo would be it's most intriguing feature. The moronic host must have never touched a Mac or iPod before or he'd know: an Apple product isn't just cool becuase of the logo/brand... it's cool because it has extraordinary features and extraordinary interface. If (well, when) Apple releases an iPhone I am certain it will exceed everyone's expectations. Unlike Mr. CNN Host.

Hopefully he's got a few spare minutes to read these posts. I wonder what kind of market share a late night CNN host gets?

are you being sarcastic?
it WILL be another phone/mp3 player.
hopefully it will work better than others and look nice.
but don't expect too much else out of it: an iPod-like gadget with phone/wireless capabilities that works nicely.

sometimes the "innovation" is the "implementation".

[chuckiej]

Congrats Arn! Your comments were well thought out and the interview was just great overall.

Good job!

[killmoms]

Dammit! I'm at work and the firewall blocks all video! I have to wait 8 hours to see Arn reppin' awesome-sauce style for the Mac community! MY LIFE IS OVER! :mad:

Seriously though, sounds like you did a good job. Can't wait to see it.

[jholzner]

But Microsoft got their 95% by ditching DOS and copying the Mac, so Apple's computer innovations were actually successful, just not for them. :)

True, and HP, Gateway, Dell...none of THEM have 95% market share either! He's confusing OS share with hardware share. Apple is a pretty damn successfuly computer hardware company when you look at hardware market share.

[j33pd0g]

I think there was a point made about eliminating devices. If Apple has an iPod and an iPhone that is just a phone and not a music player, I don't think anyone would mind. I would rather keep my communication device and entertainment device separate. Sometimes I go places with my cell phone that I would never dream of bringing my iPod.

Innovative? How about automatically adding an audio blog to your .mac account from your iPhone. How's that for innovation?

[yellow]

Way to go Arn, you handled yourself quite well AFAIAC.
That interviewer seemed like a cock farmer.

[EGT]

Well done, Arn! :) Very coherent. It's always good to put a face to the name.

[Rocketman]

My comment is directed at Arn himself (Arnold). You certainly came off better than the other guy as far as being content filled and comfortable with the interview.

CNBC takes alot of almost ready for prime time folks and gives them a chance to shine, and as a network that needs to fill airtime, reinvites folks with something to say.

I suggest you prepare perhaps 10 15-20 second monologues which you can say from memory in response to a question.

Or as politicians do, respond to the question posed, and "elaborate" with their own 15 second monologue to get a message out.

Something along the lines of, "Yes Apple has a small market share, however it increased its market share 30% in computers in the last year or so, and our site macrumors.com has discussion boards as to why.

"The iPhone features and benefits are pure speculation right now, but one rumour is that it will integrate wireless internet as well as phone and iPod features. Apple recently purchased the Worldcom telecon center in California for $50 million.

By conveying information in sound bite format, and refering the viewer to the website you get a triple play. CNBC gets an intertesting guest, you cite facts, and you increase traffic at the website.

You sir, ARE ready for prime time. Good job!

Rocketman

Feel free to email me for further interactions on this topic.

[zac4mac]

Good job Mr. Kim! I don't know what I expected to see, but I was surprised anyway to finally see what you look like. As I did expect though, I saw an intelligent, pleasant, rational man holding his own(quite well) against a dolt of a host. Way to show 'em we don't all salivate profusely at the mention of Apple or a new product from Cupertino.

P.S. nice avatar Yellow, always liked the '78 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers almost as much as the original..

Z

[slffl]

WTF was that? I thought I was watching Faux News for a minute. That 'interviewer' just talked over everyone.

[DoogieWoogie]

Well done Arn.

[yellow]

Hey Arn, if you ever get tired of Richmond you're more than welcome for dinner at my house, just a quick zip down 85. :)

[slipjack]

Nice work Arn, you did a lot better than the other guy Bob.

[iRachel]

Great job Arn! It's great to see macrumors getting some attention!

[solvs]

But Microsoft got their 95% by ditching DOS and copying the Mac, so Apple's computer innovations were actually successful, just not for them. :)
Have you seen Vista? They're still doing it. And still badly.

WTF was that? I thought I was watching Faux News for a minute. That 'interviewer' just talked over everyone.
Yeah, they all do that now.

[Peace]

Boy he sure sounded american to me.

In any case arn runs THE BEST Mac site in the tubes!!

[count chocula]

yay arn!

[njmac]

My comment is directed at Arn himself (Arnold). You certainly came off better than the other guy as far as being content filled and comfortable with the interview.

CNBC takes alot of almost ready for prime time folks and gives them a chance to shine, and as a network that needs to fill airtime, reinvites folks with something to say.

I suggest you prepare perhaps 10 15-20 second monologues which you can say from memory in response to a question.

Or as politicians do, respond to the question posed, and "elaborate" with their own 15 second monologue to get a message out.

Something along the lines of, "Yes Apple has a small market share, however it increased its market share 30% in computers in the last year or so, and our site macrumors.com has discussion boards as to why.

"The iPhone features and benefits are pure speculation right now, but one rumour is that it will integrate wireless internet as well as phone and iPod features. Apple recently purchased the Worldcom telecon center in California for $50 million.

By conveying information in sound bite format, and refering the viewer to the website you get a triple play. CNBC gets an intertesting guest, you cite facts, and you increase traffic at the website.

You sir, ARE ready for prime time. Good job!

Rocketman

Feel free to email me for further interactions on this topic.

:cool: Great post Rocketman.

Arn did a great job and I love that he wore a suit.

[Over Achiever]

Yeah, but Chinese people are cooler.

He's Korean-American, not that it really matters right ...

[matthewHUB]

Arn's not chinese. If you didn't know, 'Kim' cannot be formed with chinese script. It can be formed from Hangul and therefore Kim is a Korean name.

[neonart]

I felt bad for Bob, but that's what happens when you can't think fast.

Arn did a great job! Kept his cool and answered correctly and intelligently.

Apple doesn't need anything new. Heck, the iPod was nothing new. It was the simplicity, user interface, and connectivity that gave it the success it has.
In fact, one of the problems that iPod competitors have is that the manufactures want to add new features, instead of fixing the ones that need fixing.
It's one of the reasons why Apple has been reluctant to add zip-bang features to the iPod. The more crap it has, the more complicated it is. Just think how long it took to have video or games on an iPod. If it can't be done right, don't do it at all.
The iPone will be the same. Don't expect a crapload of worthless features, just the standard stuff done right, with iTunes integration, and iPod like simplicity.

I'll be the first in line.

[Rocketman]

:cool: Great post Rocketman.

Arn did a great job and I love that he wore a suit.

I think he wore the suit to irritate Steve Jobs. Steve pulls stuff on the rumor sites all the time . . .

:)

Thanks for the supportive comment njmac.

Arn really should do about an hour of homework watching this channel next time he goes on. He did just fine, but Dylan Ratigan has a shotgum blast interview style he uses to a good extent on his Fast Money show for daily stock traders. This IS a financial channel.

If he gets an interview with Jim Cramer who loves Apple, he will do well, and the main man at the network is the host of Power Lunch, who used to be the fianacial guy for Channel 18 in Los Angeles before there even was cable TV.

Rocketman

[Benjamindaines]

I'll be the first in line.

No, I will definitely check you out of the way :D :p

Great job Arn(old), very professional and you kept your cool when the host started to grill you a bit, Bob got too hung up on defending the Mac but you knew that's not what you were there to do and you did what you should have. Always giving MacRumors a good image :)

--Cheers

[cr2sh]

Arn,

Why didn't you say my name while you were on TV?

Huh? Or at least thrown me some sort of MR gang sign.

Jeez.

:rolleyes:

[FF_productions]

Wow, just got around to viewing that video. That interviewer was some ass-hole. Sure he was throwing down hard facts such as 95% of the Computer Market is NOT an Apple Computer, but he came off as a prick.

Arn, you really are a good interviewee. Is that a word?

Arn on TV? What's next? MacRumors TV Show?:eek:

[~Shard~]

Arn on TV? What's next? MacRumors TV Show?:eek:

I don't know about a TV show per se, but how about a podcast? ;) :cool:

[FF_productions]

I don't know about a TV show per se, but how about a podcast? ;) :cool:

That actually wouldn't be a bad idea..

[~Shard~]

That actually wouldn't be a bad idea..

I'm up for contributing if other people are... :D

[WildCowboy]

I'm up for contributing if other people are... :D

Just what we need...~Shard~ spamming our iPods. :rolleyes:

[chuckiej]

Wow, just got around to viewing that video. That interviewer was some ass-hole.

No that's his style and his question was fair - what will be innovative about the iPhone?

Other guy's answer: "Apple always innovates" -- Thumbs DOWN
Note: he then proceeds to aggressively insist the host let him finish his pointless point

Arn's answer: "There were MP3 players before the iPod...." -- Thumbs UP

[~Shard~]

Just what we need...~Shard~ spamming our iPods. :rolleyes:

I prefer the term Podspam™. :cool:

[Willis]

Well done and well handled. Questions got answered without going into depth. afterall... its all rumors, who knows?!

[bketchum]

Is it on youtube anywhere yet??

I wanna see! Was arn in the shadows with a blurred voice?
Snort! Too funny.

[dmw007]

What's next? MacRumors TV Show?:eek:


Sounds good to me, as long as ~Shard~ gets to be the anchor. :D :)

[~Shard~]

Sounds good to me, as long as ~Shard~ gets to be the anchor. :D :)

Oooh, that could be fun! I'd need you as part of my crew though as well... ;)

[Codemonkey]

...and of course that crap friggin microsoftcacca videocrap player manages to crash Safari, fisrt time in FORVER!!!!!

So... Windows Media Player crashed eh? Very interesting. Because the player used on the http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm??g=c431a17f-13d0-438d-b806-67877543de6a&f=rssmoney&fg=rss&f=15/64rssmoney

Link has _nothing_ to do with Windows Media Player! Interesting! If you right click on the controller elements, all you get are browser options (indicating that it's not the typical controller embedded). Never mind that the player is styled like XP. And to top it all off, if you right-click the video - it's FLASH!! :D

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good on ya, Microsoft: abandon your own tech. Soon someone will tell me that Hotmail used to run on Linux software, or some such nonesense... </sarcasm>

And to add my .02 CDN: The host most definitley has his panties in a bunch - he's prolly p*ssed off his Zune turned out to be a piece of crap, his Dell Jukebox is being used to hold the napkins down on his kitchen table, and his can of GLH just ran out.

[lOUDsCREAMEr]

Arn's not chinese. If you didn't know, 'Kim' cannot be formed with chinese script. It can be formed from Hangul and therefore Kim is a Korean name.

FYI, "Kim" essentially means "Gold" in both Chinese & Korean.

http://web.mit.edu/jpnet/ji/gifs/200x200/2266.gif

thatz how "Kim" written in Chinese..

Kim is a Korean family name tho'..

[imacdaddy]

FYI, "Kim" essentially means "Gold" in both Chinese & Korean.

thatz how "Kim" written in Chinese..

Kim is a Korean family name tho'..

The Golden Boy! Great interview.

[fixyourthinking]

My comment is directed at Arn himself (Arnold). You certainly came off better than the other guy as far as being content filled and comfortable with the interview.

CNBC takes alot of almost ready for prime time folks and gives them a chance to shine, and as a network that needs to fill airtime, reinvites folks with something to say.

I suggest you prepare perhaps 10 15-20 second monologues which you can say from memory in response to a question.

Or as politicians do, respond to the question posed, and "elaborate" with their own 15 second monologue to get a message out.

Something along the lines of, "Yes Apple has a small market share, however it increased its market share 30% in computers in the last year or so, and our site macrumors.com has discussion boards as to why.

"The iPhone features and benefits are pure speculation right now, but one rumour is that it will integrate wireless internet as well as phone and iPod features. Apple recently purchased the Worldcom telecon center in California for $50 million.

By conveying information in sound bite format, and refering the viewer to the website you get a triple play. CNBC gets an intertesting guest, you cite facts, and you increase traffic at the website.

You sir, ARE ready for prime time. Good job!

Rocketman

Feel free to email me for further interactions on this topic.


That's a good suggestion ...

[MikeTheC]

Way to go, arn!

I'm not someone who does well under rapid-fire conditions, so had it been me I probably wouldn't have responded to the request for an interview.

And definitely that interviewer was an asshat; I have absolutely no use nor patience for his ilk. Had I been on and he'd done that to me, I'd have probably told him to ******* off, and then walked off the set while on-camera.

And yes, my retinas now have an image of The Arn burned into them. I now see Arn in all places and at all times. Amazing!

Far more interesting than the Church of Bob (http://subgenius.com/), we should definitely begin the Church of Arn to help continue his good Mac works.

[GodBless]

Wow! I never thought that MacRumors would be taken seriously enough to make news on television considering that the reports from here are just rumors.

I guess a larger portion of the world is curious about what Apple is coming up with next--and maybe it's the increase of bloggers that was the catalyst that allowed it to happen.

Anyway this is good news and I'm happy to have been an Apple fan and a part of this site up to this point.

[steelfist]

i hate the fact that the host was anti-mac.

he's like "what's so cool about the mac? nearlly nobody uses them!" kind of attitude.

and he's one of those typical guys who wants features features and more features. he just dosen't get it.



i thought "gee-ing" means gold though in chinese :confused:

[imacintel]

That host was a jerk! Apples Computers didn't fail and are not failing!

[Matt2.0]

As stated above, extremely well done Arn. It would have been so easy to get defensive about Macs in the face of all the desinformation coming out of that host.

The host came across as, and probably is, a man with the analytic skills of a reptile. 5% market penetration=failure? What about Porsche, are they a failure? Pathetic.