Liverpool FC

[evoluzione]

so there's a ton of threads on the new iTunes/Music Store (which is great) but on a different note, i've realised that there are in fact a few fans of Liverpool Football Club (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv) here :)

WinterMute and dstorey are a couple, along with me of course :)

or indeed any football (soccer) fans in general? and who do you support, and why?

[WinterMute]

C'MON YOU REDS...:D

Did you see Owen destroy those poor bas**rds in Brum? Boy's back to his best let me tell you.

This is getting tense, I really hope West Ham hand Chealsea a good kicking next weekend, they need the points and they are playing for Roeder as well, I think they'll do it.

Who cares who wins the premiership, after the season we've just had I'm surprised we aren't relegation material, as it is we won a cup and are challenging for a place in Europe.

Not too shabby for a truly bad season.

Course, finishing above Everton makes it all OK.;)

[britboy]

Originally posted by WinterMute
.........Who cares who wins the premiership, after the season we've just had I'm surprised we aren't relegation material, as it is we won a cup and are challenging for a place in Europe.

Not too shabby for a truly bad season.

Course, finishing above Everton makes it all OK.;)


I'm glad you're satisfied with the 'Worthless Cup'. It's the likes of LFC that make things easier for true champions ;)

Consistency is key.....

[WinterMute]

Oooooo... (grabs handbag)

Which side of the great football divide are you from?

Not the Theatre of Silence surely;)

This thread could get closed down in double quick time:p

[britboy]

I come from the camp of the defending champions. Supported them since I returned to the UK, round about the mid-90's. However, I've yet to go to a game, mainly because it's so darn expensive :mad:

"Theatre of Silence" = Old Trafford? :confused:

[trebblekicked]

it's hard being a football fan stateside. the only thing ever on is MLS, which i believe does not qualify as football. every once in a while, rupert murdoch would put a manchester game on fox sports, but those days are behind us as well. there are some premium services here ($200 anuall) that provide european/BP coverage, but i can't justfiy the price.

whenever i'm abroad, i'm a PSV eindhoven supporter. as far as the brits go, i've always been an arsenal fan. (sorry)

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by britboy
I come from the camp of the defending champions. Supported them since I returned to the UK, round about the mid-90's. However, I've yet to go to a game, mainly because it's so darn expensive :mad:

"Theatre of Silence" = Old Trafford? :confused:

Got it in one, "Theatre of Dreams" my shabby arse, I've spent several afternoons listening to the pool fans out-sing that bunch of chancers:D

I think you're up against it now, you took a real beating physically on Saturday. I'm glad Freddie isn't too badly hurt.

You ought to win the FA cup though, so don't feel too bad about losing the Championship;) ;) ;)

[pivo6]

Sorry, since LFC dropped their American keeper Friedel, in a move that they are still regretting, and Everton has had two Americans, Joe-Max Moore and Brian McBride, I'll play devils advocat and support Everton. I mean if it's good enough for the Gallagher brothers ... :D

Anyway I really support Arsenal, not because I'm a front runner, but mainly because they at one time had a few Dutchman in the team like Overmars and Bergkamp. Bergkamp still is world class despite not ever stepping on an airplane.

[losfp]

My first love is Aussie Rules Football (C'arn the mighty Swans!), but soccer is a fairly close second. My team in the Aussie League is Northern Spirit, but I do keep an eye on how Arsenal is going.

[WinterMute]

Gawd evo, we're surrounded by bleedin' Gooooners...

Last time I was at Highbury was last season when we won 1-0, it was a bit frosty on the way home I can tell you. (mate is a rabid gooner)

I have to say the Arse are worth their position this year, and as long as everyone hates Man Ure, I guess it's OK;)

[evoluzione]

haha, crikey, tons of gooners around. ah well, can't say i dislike 'em.

and yes, i managed to see the 6 (six!) goals from the weekend. I may have just secured a new location for the LFC NY supporters club too :D was a good evening. if you're ever out here WinterMute (and dstorey) you'll have to join us all.

yer not wrong about it getting very tense, my god, not only for the 'pool, but the toon and chelsea too, sod the bluenoses, theey're out of it now :) and of course man ure and the gooners, plus everything at the bottom of the table.....crikey, down to the wire, great season for the neutrals.

and what about that other American, Kasey Keller (sp?) what a performance for Spurs, such a shame he finally got beaten.

I only hope Nicky and Robbie don't exact their revenge on us on saturday (i think we get that on telly over here yay!).

ok, i need to sleep before i bore the place!

t'ra la'

[britboy]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Got it in one, "Theatre of Dreams" my shabby arse, I've spent several afternoons listening to the pool fans out-sing that bunch of chancers:D

I think you're up against it now, you took a real beating physically on Saturday. I'm glad Freddie isn't too badly hurt.

You ought to win the FA cup though, so don't feel too bad about losing the Championship;) ;) ;)


I doubt we'll win it this year, but you never know. Football's a funny old game, and on any given day who knows what will happen. Man Utd still have to play everton ;)

Nice to see so many gunners supporters here. Seems like most people appreciate true class :D

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by britboy
Nice to see so many gunners supporters here. Seems like most people appreciate true class :D

hehe, form is temporary my friend, class, is permanent. ;)

Ell eye vee, ee are pee, double oh ell, liverpool fc. :)

[James.Paul]

I support Liverpool and the mighty Darlington!!!(local team). Darlo will have the best stadium in the 3rd division next, shame we haven't got a team to go with it though.

George splash the cash!!!! Beckham for Darlington!!!!

Hopefully the reds will just squeeze into the champions league ahead of Chelsea. Hope the Toon army get in as well so that my girlfriends happy. It's going to be tough though. Dont fancy a trip to Stamford Bridge needing to win on the last day.

Bit disappointing this season, start off poor but kept winning, fell apart in the middle and were having not a bad end. Wish owen would have traded his four against the Baggies for a goal in each of the mid season defeats. We might be still at the top.

My mate gerard has to do a little wheeling and dealing this summer. I think it's time to get rid off Biscan, Smicer, Berger, Traore, and bring in a couple of established internationals. He needs to play El-Hadji Diouf on the left where he did in the world cup! He was immense on the left wing. Keep Heskey though. I think his work rate is superb and although he doesn't score much he does create.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by James.Paul
I support Liverpool and the mighty Darlington!!!(local team). Darlo will have the best stadium in the 3rd division next, shame we haven't got a team to go with it though.

George splash the cash!!!! Beckham for Darlington!!!!

Hopefully the reds will just squeeze into the champions league ahead of Chelsea. Hope the Toon army get in as well so that my girlfriends happy. It's going to be tough though. Dont fancy a trip to Stamford Bridge needing to win on the last day.

Bit disappointing this season, start off poor but kept winning, fell apart in the middle and were having not a bad end. Wish owen would have traded his four against the Baggies for a goal in each of the mid season defeats. We might be still at the top.

My mate gerard has to do a little wheeling and dealing this summer. I think it's time to get rid off Biscan, Smicer, Berger, Traore, and bring in a couple of established internationals. He needs to play El-Hadji Diouf on the left where he did in the world cup! He was immense on the left wing. Keep Heskey though. I think his work rate is superb and although he doesn't score much he does create.


good on yer la'. yer not wrong about getting rid of a few either. diouf is playing well, dead impressed with him out on the right, as i was with baros partnering owen. biscan is out of his depth, and smicer, he has his moments, but all too infrequent i'm afraid....

anyways, i'm at risk of highjacking macrumors and turning it into an lfc board haha.....

[britboy]

Originally posted by evoluzione

anyways, i'm at risk of highjacking macrumors and turning it into an lfc board haha.....


nah. There's not enough lfc fans here for that ;)

[James.Paul]

we can try!!!

[MacsRgr8]

The Gunners have mates on the other side of the North Sea.....

As as little lad, I lived in England, and occasionally went to Highbury with my Dad to cheer on "the only team in London".
Since I'm back in Holland I keep track of 'em! We can see alot of Arsenal here on TV, and no wonder: They're the greatest side in the world!
Every year I visit London for a long weekend's vacation, and go to Highbury... and still with my Dad. Those are the best couple of days each year. :)

[britboy]

Originally posted by James.Paul
we can try!!!


Good luck then. It's been a really good season, and I'd have no objection to debating the ins and outs of who should stay where..... :)

[James.Paul]

Being from London, you'll know plenty of Man Utd fans then. I think they love Arsenal vs Man Utd, bit of a local derby for them isn't it?

Actually, I think every Liverpool fan would like to see the Gooners win the league if only to stop Man U winning the league. I have to admit in the early part of the season Arsenal looked invincible and would run away with it but now I think it's not going to be won on players abilities, I think what is going to win it for Man U is Alex Ferguson. You can tell he loves this scenario because he can make the difference he just has that mental ability to rile up the other teams and put them off their stride. If Man U win, it is because of Ferguson not just the players.

I do hope I'm wrong though and boy wonder Rooney slots a couple past them on the last day of the season.

[MacsRgr8]

Is it fair to say that there are no Man Utd fans here?

That's gr8!

Those guys are probably over at somekind of M$Rumors boards :D

[dstorey]

I'm hear to lend my voice....guess theres not many of us here so i'll have to sing like we did on that faithful night in dortmund when me and a few locals used to turn the local irish bar in geneva into anfield away from home on match days but this was even more buzzing.......'he's got no hair, but we don't care, Gary Gary Mac'

Well i hope we put one over chelsea and also beat my local team to get the 3rd spot.....pitty we had that mid season crisis. I think next year could be ours though, as gerard said...'if you aim for the stars, you might just land on the moon'.

Anyway Baros is looking some player...he does it for me more than heskey does, even though he does a lot that goes un noticed. Biscan seems to do better in defense, not shown his protential yet. Wrll we have le tallac coming next season...french wonder kid...hes been amazing what i've seen of him and might give us that creativity though he's a bit young.....I'm hoping we get harry kewell in the close season.

Allez les rouges.

[pivo6]

Originally posted by evoluzione
...and what about that other American, Kasey Keller (sp?) what a performance for Spurs, such a shame he finally got beaten...

The US seems to have good keepers, Keller, Friedel, and Stallone (in the movie Victory-what a PK stop against the Germans);) There's a rumor that another American keeper is being looked at by ManUtd. I doubt that that will happen, but anyone has got be better than Barthez.

[evoluzione]

haha, yeah, Escape to Victory. What a helluva cast eh? Michael Caine, Sly Stallone, Pelé, Bobby Moore......


and yeah, where are all the ManUre fans? They must all be PC users, if they even have the ability to work one that is...I'd love to see the Arse win, purely because I don't want Manchester United PLC win. You know they did a deal with the NY Yankees?? at least I know what (baseball) team to support over here now, Boston Red Sox baby!!! hahaha. I was in Hooters the other night (before going onto Scores, a strip club, mates stag night (bachelor party)) when I look up at the telly, only to see that bloody Argentinian Diego Forlan running about with his shirt off, i couldn't believe it.

of course I'd like to see us nick that 3rd place, but the toon are everyone's 2nd favourite team, so i can live with the playoff place that is 4th. I'm amazed we're still challenging, after our worst run for half a century!?!?

As for the gunners, at the start of the season, they were about two leagues above liverpool in their play, absolutely fantastic they were, a joy to watch.

oh, i read last week that the ManUre fans gave Real Madrid a standing ovation at the end of the game...is this true???? I know the 'pool fans applauded Barcelona after they showed us how to play, but Utd fans??? are they actually learning some respect?? nah, surely not, probably clapping for a top freekick from becks...

so then britboy, that sounds like a challenge ;) we'll see how long this thread can go on for eh??? haha

[evoluzione]

"additional...."

i'll be sorry to see barthez go, he always provides some sort of comic relief.

what a dodgy keeper, crikey.

[evoluzione]

A bloke goes into the John Lennon Airport and manages to eventually get into the departure lounge where his flight home is being called. All around him there are overturned tables, smashed windows, computer terminals broken, upturned chairs and crowd control barriers lying on the floor.
"Christ, what's happened here?" he asks one of the ground crew.
"Oh yeah...", the steward replies "Absolutely hopeless .... we had the Liverpool players in here this morning filming the new Nike ad".

[dstorey]

my fav lfc joke.

Man says to a scouser outside a church: "what would you do son if Jesus came to Liverpool?"
Boy:...thinks a moment....'Thats easy, stick him up front and move St. John to inside left'

Though with jesus saves....maybe he should be the keeper ;)

heard Owen's kid is due soon, glad hes not splashed it all over the papers like beckham did...

Oh by the way, where is the LFC supporters club in NY?

[WinterMute]

Wouldn't surprise me to find all the Man Ure fans are PC users, they always go for apparent performance over style and creativity...

Mind, old Van NostrilBoy has been kicking up a storm this year, but all the times I've seen him, no bu**er wants to challenge him, look what Hamann did to him and Scholes in the Worthington cup, a mighty performance, we always play better with Didi on the park.

I'll be very interested to see what the boss does in the closed season, is Cisse still coming? I can't figure why Smicer is still on the books, one fantastic goal does not a player make, and he's had too many average games.

I really like Heskey, sure he's a bit of a donkey sometimes, but he clears some holes for Owen, Murphy and Gerrard, and his size scares defences all over the world. Still not sure of Dioff though, could come good, but hasn't settled into the Premiership at all.

Did I mention I've got tickets for the Chelsea game?:D :D

[evoluzione]

owen's preggers???? ( i mean his girl, not him, obviously) good luck to 'em :D


the LFCNY supporters club, is, currently residing at Fiddlesticks, which is one of my fave pubs, the girls that work there are all Brasilian or Argentinian (which made it interesting during the World Cup) and they're all stunning, and I get on great with 'em too ;) Fiddle's is in "the village" aka Greenwich Village. We might be moving, not sure yet though, we had a meeting last night in a possible location.
we have a site (http://www.lfcny.org/) :)


yeah, that's a classic joke that one :D

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
I really like Heskey, sure he's a bit of a donkey sometimes...

Did I mention I've got tickets for the Chelsea game?:D :D


haha, i think Heskey has skied more than he's scored lately, but yeah, when he works hard, he's great. I think he needs constant pushing from Gerard though.

You know what mate? you have a 17" PB AND tickets to the Chelsea game, um, why am I talking to you? hehe ;) :)

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by evoluzione
haha, i think Heskey has skied more than he's scored lately, but yeah, when he works hard, he's great. I think he needs constant pushing from Gerard though.

You know what mate? you have a 17" PB AND tickets to the Chelsea game, um, why am I talking to you? hehe ;) :)

Yeah, but you've got a MacRumors mug and you live in NYC, can't be all bad can it?

I worked out of Green Street Studios and Electric Ladyland in the 80's, I was there for about 5 months, mostly I was in LA. I haven't been back since 89, I guess it's changed a bit.

Great city.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Yeah, but you've got a MacRumors mug and you live in NYC, can't be all bad can it?

Great city.


HAHAHAHA, that is very true mate. speaking of which, must be time for another cuppa :D

hmmm, thinking ahead here....the LFCNY supporters club sorts out a trip every october (usually) back to anfield for a game (or two if there's a euro game on too), maybe all you lot here should fly on over for a weekend or something, catch a game with the lads here, it'd be a good crack. (and not too expensive either, good points with the woman too, "fancy a trip to new york luv??" just forget to mention the game until ya get here haha)

[WinterMute]

Now that sounds very tasty, my otherwise sane and delectable wife has an aberant affiliation with Man Ure which (to her credit) stretches back many years, life in our house can be a bit fruaght on certain days:p

What do you think she'd say if we turned up in NYC for a nice weekend and we go see a 'Pool game?

Hmm, I forsee nights on the sofa.

Let me know when.

[James.Paul]

I dont think Liverpool can moan at someone elses dodgy kepper, we have had our fair share!!!!

Amazing how everyones second favourite team is Newcastle. If anyone gets a chance to see all those games on Sky Gold when they show the old Keegan years with Ginola, Asprilla, Albert. You watch the games now and you have to admit there is no team that can match the quality they had. It was a big shame they didn't win the championship, they were the best team ever not too have won. Anyone remember those 4-3 games vs Liverpool. The kop are still screaming from Collymore's injury time winner!!

[vollspacken]

Originally posted by evoluzione
any football (soccer) fans in general? and who do you support, and why?

I'm supporting Werder Bremen/Germany!!!

[dstorey]

So let me get this straight, LFCNY supporters club is in a bar full of hot brazillian and Argie barmaids......and your in talks over moving why? ;) are you all insain or do the barmaids get a free transfer? If I go over I have to see the Village. Having said that it is kinda strange not having it in a english or irish (they seem to be everywhere, geneva even had 4, and liverpool has big irish connections) bar. I think I might become a fully paid up member soon enough....as long as i get to do the samba with said hot barmaids when we score haha.

yeah I never knew anything about the owens bird being preggers till he dedicated his 4 goals to his unborn kid by saying the next time i score i'll probably be a father...shes due to go into labour today i think so good luck to her....think gerard should sign the kid up if it's a he? ;)

Does anyone else think that guy on the right of that Bremen pic looks like the guy off real world NY, you know the one that was quite racist at the start till he got to know the others and realised the wromgs of his ways...dunno his name.

Edit: ok just read the page, seems like it is an irish bar...i should have guessed by the name, guess the fact it wasn't called O'fiddlesticks through me on that one...and having south american barmaids.....any one taught them an irish accent yet?

[britboy]

Originally posted by vollspacken
I'm supporting Werder Bremen/Germany!!!


Judging by that picture, the question really has to be 'Why?', or perhaps 'Warum?' ;)

Do you support the other german teams when they're in european competitions, or do you cheer on the other team?

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by James.Paul
I dont think Liverpool can moan at someone elses dodgy kepper, we have had our fair share!!!!

Amazing how everyones second favourite team is Newcastle. If anyone gets a chance to see all those games on Sky Gold when they show the old Keegan years with Ginola, Asprilla, Albert. You watch the games now and you have to admit there is no team that can match the quality they had. It was a big shame they didn't win the championship, they were the best team ever not too have won. Anyone remember those 4-3 games vs Liverpool. The kop are still screaming from Collymore's injury time winner!!



of course! I actually have both 4-3 games on vhs here, on both PAL and NTSC, me and a bunch of mates actually watched the first one a couple of weeks ago, followed by The Italian Job heh. Last weekend I saw that the first 4-3 game, the collymore one, was voted best game of the premiership ever :D Asprilla was awesome, never realised his full potential for the club, but what class, that goal against Liverpool was sublime, yet he made it look so so easy. Ginola was one of those all time greats too, similar to Bergkamp and the like.

WinterMute The club usually has a yearly picnic on Charity Shield day, but seeing as we ain' in it this year, I'm not sure what happens now...would of been a great time for ya to come over, it's a sight that's for sure, a bunch of (usually) drunk people trying to play football in the park, with a barbeque too close, it's great fun, but kinda pathetic haha.

dstorey um, yeah, i have asked meself the same thing. i go there when there's not a game on anyways. but it hasn't been too reliable in getting the games shown on telly, and that's really the priority. i'll still be going there outside of the 'pool games :) they look after me there ;)
yeah it is an irish bar, there's thousands of them in nyc, and their plate of irish is almost as good as my full english, but not quite :) I sometimes work at Myers of Keswick, which is a few minutes away, and we make the best bangers in the world, and pork pies, cornish pasties etc, unbeatable. speaking of which, i think i gotta go help them unload a container full of english stuff tomorrow, baked beans, hp, etc etc :D Oh, the store is actually right next door to where they shot Real World NY, and Mikey was his name, he does look a bit like that Bremen guy haha. it was good, they shot the whole series before they started to air it, and i knew all the news, last i knew, danny devito was living there, he's shorter in real life i swear!

ooh, just got an email informing me the 'pool v city game is on down the 'sticks at 10am saturday, that'll be live then :D

[evoluzione]

Michael Owen, bless his li'l cotton socks...


"I was really surprised when the FA knocked on my doorbell"

seriously though, good luck to them, hope everything goes tops for 'em. and yeah, Gerard, get yer chequebook out!

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by evoluzione
of course! I actually have both 4-3 games on vhs here, on both PAL and NTSC, me and a bunch of mates actually watched the first one a couple of weeks ago, followed by The Italian Job heh. Last weekend I saw that the first 4-3 game, the collymore one, was voted best game of the premiership ever :D Asprilla was awesome, never realised his full potential for the club, but what class, that goal against Liverpool was sublime, yet he made it look so so easy. Ginola was one of those all time greats too, similar to Bergkamp and the like.

God I love that game, I remember Colly's goal like it was yesterday, I jumped around the living room for about ten minutes, it was total suicide football, you just don't see enough of those kind of games.

I've got both on tape as well, plus a couple of good MUFC spankings inc the last Worthington:D :D Nice way to pass a rainy afternoon.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
God I love that game, I remember Colly's goal like it was yesterday, I jumped around the living room for about ten minutes, it was total suicide football, you just don't see enough of those kind of games.

I've got both on tape as well, plus a couple of good MUFC spankings inc the last Worthington:D :D Nice way to pass a rainy afternoon.

too true, i actually watched both 4-3 games with one of my bezzie mates, who happens to be a big newcastle fan, i felt for him, i really did. couldn't believe it the second time round though, and it was even closer to the wire that one.

i'm lucky enough to have all the finals from the "2001 a scouse odyssey" year, you know, the one where we won 5, yes five trophies :D must watch them again soon. boy were they some good times, i tell ya, the bar we frequented at the time, if you couldn't be at anfield or in cardiff, this was the place to be!

[vollspacken]

Originally posted by britboy
Do you support the other german teams when they're in european competitions, or do you cheer on the other team?

...hmmm, good question (or "gute Frage...) ;)

I have always been a supporter of Werder, as long as I can remember, even though they didn't really play that good during the last couple of years (it starts getting better though...)

I definitly DO NOT cheer for sh**ty FC Bayern or Dortmund!!! those teams suck IMHO... K-town sucks too, even though most other Werder-fans seem to like them.

if one of the other German teams is competing in one of the European cups, I usually kind of cheer for them...

oh, by the way, I cheer for Manchester City when it comes to english soccer :eek:

vSpacken

[Winston Smith]

Originally posted by MacsRgr8
Is it fair to say that there are no Man Utd fans here?

That's gr8!

Those guys are probably over at somekind of M$Rumors boards :D

LOL! that or the Undergrounds broken.

Great thread, I've had the pleasure of supporting LFC for 33 (mostly) terrific years. I'm really looking forward to the Chelsea game, I work with a load of their supporters and Monday week is going to be such fun.

[dstorey]

Does anyone know who Chesea and Newcastle have on Sat? Oh i really hope we finish higher than the toon as I never hear the last of it if we do worse than them....my friend was going on for ages how we might have won the worthless cup but I'd prefere to qualif for the champions leauge so it would be so fun to take their champions leauge place that they said they couldnt lose...but they've been going through a slump like we did.

Seems you get the sat games on tv...we dont get them here, sounds like you have better coverage than we do. Do any bars have Sky, thats what we had in switzerland, Fiddled it so that the pub used a uk address to register the box.

Keeping this thread going, who do you all want to sign next season. My moneys on harry kewell or vaan de vaart, i'd love to see either or both of them....or maybe joe cole as west ham will rpobs go down and if we dont get him Manure probable will.

[britboy]

Originally posted by vollspacken
...hmmm, good question (or "gute Frage...) ;)

I have always been a supporter of Werder, as long as I can remember, even though they didn't really play that good during the last couple of years (it starts getting better though...)

I definitly DO NOT cheer for sh**ty FC Bayern or Dortmund!!! those teams suck IMHO... K-town sucks too, even though most other Werder-fans seem to like them.

if one of the other German teams is competing in one of the European cups, I usually kind of cheer for them...

oh, by the way, I cheer for Manchester City when it comes to english soccer :eek:

vSpacken


Kein Wunder. Do FC Bayern have any fans who are actually german??? They seem to be regarded with no small degree of venom. I've enjoyed watching them play though, ever since they conceeded two goals in the last 5 minutes of the champions league final :D

btw: Chelsea are away at West Ham, whilst Newcastle play host to Birmingham. No prizes for guessing who'll win :rolleyes:

[dstorey]

i hope west ham cause an upset, they need the points badly....and they have some good players, been on a good run too except they lost when it really mattered against bolton.

[James.Paul]

Originally posted by dstorey
Does anyone know who Chesea and Newcastle have on Sat? Oh i really hope we finish higher than the toon as I never hear the last of it if we do worse than them....my friend was going on for ages how we might have won the worthless cup but I'd prefere to qualif for the champions leauge so it would be so fun to take their champions leauge place that they said they couldnt lose...but they've been going through a slump like we did.

Seems you get the sat games on tv...we dont get them here, sounds like you have better coverage than we do. Do any bars have Sky, thats what we had in switzerland, Fiddled it so that the pub used a uk address to register the box.

Keeping this thread going, who do you all want to sign next season. My moneys on harry kewell or vaan de vaart, i'd love to see either or both of them....or maybe joe cole as west ham will rpobs go down and if we dont get him Manure probable will.

Newcastle play Birmingham at home and Chelsea play West Ham away. Hope Newcastle win and Chelsea lose.

Would love to see Liverpool sign a decent leftback but am unsure who is available in that position. If Leeds are off loading look for them to get Ian Harte!!! I think they will sign Cisse from France and will improve the midfield with Brett Emmerson.

If that doesn't work maybe Gerard will ask Ian Rush, Tommy Smith and Kenny Dalglish to come out of retirement.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by James.Paul
If that doesn't work maybe Gerard will ask Ian Rush, Tommy Smith and Kenny Dalglish to come out of retirement.


i've always said ever since rushy started coaching the strikers...he should be on the pitch instead.

but what is it about us liverpool fans eh? mikey scores a ton of goals, more i think than van nistelrooy (if you take away his hundreds of penalties) and we have a good goal diff, yet, we still moan about the form of our forwards!? i guess all these years of winning the 1st division, but not one premiership eh. or maybe we're just so passionate about the team, that the result doesn't matter as much as the performance??? i dunno, it's still that same old consistency problem isn't it.


oh, vollspacken, you would have to mention you're a (kind of) manchester city fan, two days before we play them! ;) heh

[dstorey]

I think its because we never kill games off, we get like one goal then proceed to miss about a million chances...or just dont create any more. Even before the first goal I've often heard os create alot but not get it in the net then the other team go down the other end and score. I though it was going to happen against west brom for a while but once the second goal went in we played some amazing stuff...hope we continue it. I think Baros is a great foil for Owen though...seems to create a lot of his goals when he plays. Saying that, we mostly need a creative right sided and possibly left sided player that will run up ahead of the forwards...ASmicer can when on song but sadly thats often few and far between. Dioufy's doing ok when he plays on the wing though, he's an exciting player, and I'd like to see more of Cheyrou down the left but it seems hes more of a central player and we have too many of them. We need more signings there to add depth. Hopefully thoug Le Tallac the wonder kid can do a job when called upon.

There has been talk of getting cissé but with Mellor looking promising,, Baros, Owen, Hesky, Dioufy, and Le Tallac and Ponguelle coming for next season we are more than covered so I guess someone like Heskey would move on if thats the case. And we all know Heskey like Smicer is one of Hou's fav's. As much as I like Carra too I think we would create a lot more if we had someone that would take it past the midfirld such as Babbel, as with Danny playing there he is not a natural wide player (but you cant fault him this season, brabably my player of the season if we have one).

[dstorey]

Van nissleroy or whoever i think maybe scores more than owen, isn't he on something crazy like 39 or so.....but he is the only one getting the goals at man u so the only target to pass to really, their midfield sadlty creates more thasn ours does fr Micheal and i think I saw a stat where most if not all of Van's goals were in and around the 6 yard box. Bigger goal mouch than andy cole was in his toon days.

[britboy]

Originally posted by dstorey
Van nissleroy or whoever i think maybe scores more than owen, isn't he on something crazy like 39 or so.....but he is the only one getting the goals at man u so the only target to pass to really, their midfield sadlty creates more thasn ours does fr Micheal and i think I saw a stat where most if not all of Van's goals were in and around the 6 yard box. Bigger goal mouch than andy cole was in his toon days.


Van Nistelrooy has so far this season scored 40 goals for man u, although Henry is still the premiership's top scorer. Not to mention that he's just won both the PFA and the PWA 'Player of the Year' awards :)

You're right about man u though. It seems that every time they get the ball, they try to get it to van nistelrooy, and he's invariably somewhere in the penalty area. Of course he's going to score loads of goals, if that's the way they play. Mind you, I wouldn't mind having him in my team ;)

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having said that, man u do have the ability to score from anywhere, one example is scholes, didn't he get a hat-trick the other week?

anyways, enough of the scum heh. carragher is over-rated, he pegs it down the right wing, stops, looks back, and then passes back. all the time, kinda reminds me of mark walters running down the left, little shimmy, leg over the ball and cuts in, every single time you knew he was going to do that. John Arne Riise on the other hand, what a star, he's awesome, and he's got a sweet left peg on him too. and when he scores, it always a blinder :)

bring back gary mac is what i say hah.

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...but i thought this was an interesting piece.
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Premier Focus: Houllier's millions
Dale Johnson

Having the cash to splash in the transfer market may not guarantee you success, but it certainly helps. The Liverpool board have been very supportive of boss Gerard Houllier over the last five years, although his failure to mount a serious challenge for the title continues to frustrate.

Gerard Houllier: Happy to spend (AdamDavy/Empics)
It's now 13 years since Liverpool last won the Championship, the days when Luton, Millwall and Queens Park Rangers used to rub shoulders with England's elite. When you look back at some of the money he has wasted on talentless individuals it is a wonder how he has survived in the job.

Houllier has spent £101.9 million (plus wages) since Roy Evans left him to his own devices, including the mystery millions spent on misfits such as Jean-Michel Ferri and Bernard Diomede to the crazy spending on the likes of Igor Biscan (£5.5m) and Vladimir Smicer (£4.2m).

Now, as the club look destined for another season of UEFA Cup football, questions are being asked of Houllier.

Here, we look at how Houllier's millions have been spent.

Jean-Michel Ferri: £1.7million from Istanbulspor - December 1998
Who? Exactly. Houllier brought this defensive midfielder to Anfield as his first signing. He picked up an injury shortly after his arrival from Turkey, but even when fit he looked well short of the required quality. The French international made only two substitute appearances, in defeats at Chelsea and Sheffield Wednesday, before being shipped to French side Sochaux in the summer.

Rigobert Song: £2.6million from Salernitana - January 1999
Song came to Anfield from Italy with a good reputation as a solid defender and was a fixture in the Cameroon side. He began well and became something of a cult hero on the Kop. But Houllier insisted in playing Song at right-back rather than in his favoured position in the centre of defence. Song played just 38 games for Liverpool before they almost recouped the transfer fee when he was sold to West Ham in November 2000. He was shocking for West Ham and is now in Ligue 1 with RC Lens.

Frodde Kippe: £700,000 from Lillestrom - January 1999
This Norwegian defender was heralded as a real star of the future when he moved to Liverpool - the Reds had pulled off a real coup in securing his services. Rather than being a Kippe, he was more of a red herring. He made just two substitute appearances for Liverpool in the League Cup before twice being loaned out to Stoke City. He left the club a year ago to return to Lillestrom for a nominal fee.

Djimi Traore: £550,000 from Laval - February 1999
This is an interesting one. Signed ahead of interest from AC Milan, Paris St Germain and Lazio, Liverpool can consider themselves to have got value for money on the transfer fee. Traore has been a fixture in the starting eleven this term after spending most of the 2001/02 campaign on loan at RC Lens. However, Traore looks anything but the real deal and Liverpool would be unlikely to win the championship with him in their defence. The French player has now made 59 appearances for the Reds.

Sami Hyypia: £2.6million from Willem II - May 1999
Hyypia will almost certainly go down as Houllier's best signing, a snip at £2.6m from Dutch side Willem II. A superb, assured defender and a commanding presence, the Finnish international would slot into probably any defence in the Premiership. Houllier handed him the club captaincy a year ago, and he has now played over 200 games for the Reds.

Stephane Henchoz: £3.5million from Blackburn - June 1999
Henchoz was rescued from life in the Football League by Houllier after Blackburn dropped out of the Premiership, and he soon forged a superb partnership at the heart of the defence with Hyypia. Henchoz has been worth every penny in his 174 games for the club - with the added extra of a few cheeky handballs when the officials aren't looking!

Sander Westerveld: £4million from Vitesse Arnhem - June 1999
Westerveld may have been Houllier's number one at Anfield for two seasons, but he was prone to errors - in keeping with the great tradition of Liverpool goalkeepers! Houllier made him the most expensive goalkeeper in British football when signing him from Holland, a tag he certainly failed to live up to. Although he certainly had ability, he came over-priced after the gaffe which led to defeat at Bolton in August 2001 was the final straw and he was sold to Real Soceidad.

Titi Camara: £2.6million from Marseille - June 1999
After a half decent first season at Anfield, in which he scored ten goals and only trailed Michael Owen in the club's scoring charts, Camara was discarded by Houllier after 18 months. West Ham again came to the rescue by giving Liverpool most of their money back, playing only 11 Premiership games for the Hammers before being loaned out to Al-Ittihad in January.

Vladimir Smicer: £4.2million from RC Lens - July 1999
An incredible fee for a player of such limited ability, Houllier had hardly found the replacement for Steve McManaman. But Smicer remains a manager's favourite and is invariably in the 16 on a matchday. Smicer has many critics on the terraces, but he still earned a new three-year contract last summer and now, remarkably, has played 142 games for the club.

Erik Meijer: Free from Bayer Leverkusen - July 1999
Liverpool fans can only be pleased this misfit striker didn't cost any money, because he was a complete failure in his 17-month spell at Anfield. The Dutch player scored just two League Cup goals in a total of 26 appearances before being loaned out to Preston North End, where he scored no goals in nine games, and then released to join German side SV Hamburg.

Dietmar Hamann: £8million from Newcastle - July 1999
The final signing of a £25million summer transfer frenzy for Houllier, Hamann has been a valuable player since making the move from Tyneside. But at £8million, then a club record, the German international was probably over-priced for a defensive midfielder.

Emile Heskey: £11million from Leicester - March 2000
At the time this transfer was the worst kept secret in English football. After netting 22 goal in his first full season at the club, Heskey has struggled. A fee of £11m for a striker who doesn't score goals is excessive to say the least, although the player has suffered from being played out wide at times. The England international has scored just six Premiership goals this season.

Bernard Diomede: £3million from Auxerre - July 2000
Another mystery name with a big price tag, Diomede has a World Cup winners' medal from France '98, you know. But he is now back home with relegation candidates AC Ajaccio after being loaned out in January. The French winger has played just five games for Liverpool, only two of those in the Premiership.

Markus Babbel: Free from Bayern Munich - July 2000
Houllier was very unlucky with Babbel. The German veteran had a fine first season at Anfield, but was then sidelined after developing Guillan-Barre Syndrome. This affects the central nervous system and means you are unable to use your limbs properly. He did make an emotional return in the Community Shield in August but is yet to play this year.

Gary McAllister: Free from Coventry City - July 2000
McAllister was a superb Bosman capture by Houllier. Although used as a substitute for much of the time, his goals were priceless as Reds picked up five trophies in 2001. The lure of the manager's job at Coventry proved too strong last year, and Liverpool have failed to replace his experience and guile in the centre of the park.

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Pegguy Arphexad: Free from Leicester City - July 2000
Signed as a back-up keeper and, despite a brief loan spell with Stockport County, first team football continues to elude him.

Nick Barmby: £6million from Everton - July 2000
Barmby's move across Stanley Park caused a storm at the time, but his two years at Anfield were barely worth the bother. After a useful first season a combination of injuries and Houllier's selection policy limited his involvement and last summer he joined Leeds United, at almost a third of the cost.

Gregory Vignal: £500,000 from Montpellier - September 2000
Despite getting a few first team games under his belt over the course of the last two years and looking a useful player, Houllier cast him aside at the beginning of the season. Vignal is now out on loan in France with Bastia.

Christian Ziege: £5.5million from Middlesbrough - September 2000
For all the trouble this caused, Ziege was effectively a waste money. The two clubs are still arguing about the way in which Liverpool went about luring the player to Anfield. Ziege started just 11 Premiership games before being sold to Spurs after just one season.

Daniel Sjolund: £1million from West Ham - November 2000
The Finland Under-21 international was signed as a player for the future but has failed to make the grade, and is now on loan at Djurgarden until the end of the season.

Igor Biscan: £5.5million from Dinamo Zagreb - December 2000
How much! Biscan must be one of the worst players ever to turn out for a club of Liverpool's stature; in fact he would struggle to make a impression in the First Division. Houllier paid a ludicrous amount of money for the Croatian defender/midfielder. Biscan has made 23 Premiership appearances in almost two-and-a-half years.

Jari Litmanen: Free from Barcelona - January 2001
Criminally underused by Houllier, Litmanen could have contributed so much more to a Liverpool side that has often looked short of a creative influence. The Finnish striker returned to former club Ajax after making only 12 Premiership starts.

John Arne Riise: £4.6million from Monaco - June 2001
Leeds United must wish they had stumped up the cash for the player when they had the chance a year earlier, as Riise has taken to the Premiership with great aplomb. A pacy, skilful wing-back or midfielder, Riise has lived up to his price tag in a big way. He was strangely underused at the start of the season but is now a firm fixture in the side.

Milan Baros: £3million from Banik Ostrava - August 2001
It could prove to be an astute piece of business by Houllier, although he lost a whole year as the old rules on non-EU players meant he couldn't get into the first team squad. Looks a lively player and should develop into a top striker, given time.

Jerzy Dudek: £4.85million from Feyenoord - August 2001
Signed to replace Sander Westerveld, Dudek had a brilliant first season, but started this term badly and was to blame for a number of goals - most notably the opener in a 2-1 defeat to arch rivals Manchester United. He is only back in the side due to Chris Kirkland's injury but looks to be getting back to his best.

Chris Kirkland: £6million from Coventry - August 2001
After paying such a lot of money for a back-up goalkeeper, Kirkland was handed his chance due to Dudek's inept performances. However, a cruciate ligament injury sustained at the start of the year put him out of action. Houllier spent nearly £11million on two goalkeepers on the same day - completely unnecessary and it was almost as if he was trying to stop any of his rivals signing Kirkland.

Nicolas Anelka: On loan from Paris Saint Germain - December 2001
Eyebrows were raised when Houllier opted to against making his loan move permanent, and Anelka himself was far from happy. The French striker was never prolific during his six-month stay, but it was thought he'd done enough after netting five goals. Instead, Houllier turn to El Hadji Diouf.

Abel Xavier: £800,000 from Everton - February 2002
Again a transfer that surprised many, but a good start was the limit of his contribution to the side. Xavier played just 21 games for Liverpool before being loaned to Galatasaray in January. It's hard to see him returning to Liverpool to battle for a place in the team - more money wasted.

El Hadji Diouf: £10million from RC Lens - June 2002
Houllier signed the Senegal striker at the start of the World Cup, and although he would go on to be named in FIFA's team of the tournament he has looked a poor acquisition. The striker has scored only three Premiership goals in 24 appearances for the club, although he has been played out wide at times. He has a lot to do to justify the fee.

Bruno Cheyrou: £3.7million from Lille - July 2002
Cheyrou has been very inconspicuous since his summer move, featuring in 25 games this term. He looks as though he may benefit from a year in the Premiership and come back stronger in the new campaign. The jury is very much still out and the price tag looks a little large right now.

Alou Diarra: Free from Bayern Munich - July 2002
Diarra was loaned out to Le Havre almost as soon he'd joined Liverpool, and as such remains an unknown quantity in the English game.

Patrice Luzi: Free from Monaco - August 2002
A young goalkeeper signed for the future who has yet to feature - currently fourth in the pecking order at the club.


Salif Diao: £5million from Sedan - August 2002
Again, Houllier has broken the bank for a player of limited ability. Although he did start his Anfield career promisingly, he has tailed off in the latter part of the season and looks to be out of his depth at this level.


Few of Houllier's signings can truly be considered to have been worth the money he has shelled out. He must hope that Diouf and Diao come good soon, otherwise the £15million spent last summer can be considered a waste.

The clock is ticking...

[dstorey]

I kinda disagree with the last posts...for all le chef's faults I think he is the best man for the job. After all fergie was at manure much longer before he won the title and just as man u were in a state then, i think lfc were in a bit of a mess before ged took over, especially with the spice boy tag. Its just a shame we didn't hold on to steve macca. For all the money ged has spent you have to compare to the other teams that have won as much and also less than us. Newcastle have yet to win anything and they've spent huge amounts, probably more than us, especially under keegan. ditto chelsea and leeds but at least chelsea won a few things, not as much as lfc. 6 cups in three years isn't bad and if we get into the chamions leauge for the third time running then that isn't bad either. How much of this 100 million have we got back in transfers...quite a bit I expect, over a tenth of it on robbie fowler alone, then there is the bonus for winning the cups and the champions leauge campaigns.

If you look at the list, a fair few at the start we stop gap measures to sort out the problems we had at the time and did a job for us, the likes of song for example. We couldn't attract the top players then sadly. Then ged has bought for the future...a few of them written off could come good, after all traore and biscan were chased by most the top clubs and the fees in todays terms weren't great. Traore is looking good when he plays at centre back as is biscan (not in his fav position of centre mid though for some reason). Vignal i belive is a good player when he gets experience...he was unlucky with injurys last season. If them sort of players don't work out, we will make the money back anyway as they were so cheap. Baros, hyypia, henchoz, hamman and murphy will easily make a profit. Barby was a mistake as i belive was heskey but in the treble season they played a big part. If it wasnt for babble and ged being ill last season i belive we had a huge chance of winning the leauge, we wernt so far off, just a patch of the season where we went hopless (just like this season really). I think as the team matures (we are a very young side and getting better) i think we will have a great side..the foundations are there at least. You cant foget how much murphy has blossomed with ged...who would have thought he would have made the england squad a few years ago. Is 100 million so much these days for a whole new squad (as thats what we have)...look at real, they payed that on less than 3 players. I'm sure dioufy will come through strong next year, he is looking the part towards the end of the seaon and you dont get african player of the year twice for nothing, Cheyrou is worth more than 3.5 million too...after he was signed another french club bid over 7 for him but he had already agreed to switch to use and he does have the look of ZiZo at times...lets just see if he fits in, or becomes one of those players that cant play in thr PL (like smicer....have you seen him for the czrch republic....another player...we have a imposter i'm sure). I guess people are just rating ged far too quickly...i have hope as a liverpool supporter now,, unlike under uncle roy. I think ged is the new shankley, with thompson to become the new paisley (he has the nose too). If you look back, shanks didn't win that much really but without him the paisly team would never have been what it was and i think its the same with ged and possible whoever comes next.

you'll never walk alone....'c'mon you reds. who lets the dogs out hou hou... ;)

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dstorey ... i agree with you, i posted that report as i thought it was interesting, and raised a couple of good points, however, i think we need to make a couple of small changes and we'd be sorted. yes we have a young squad, and a lot of inspirational players, once they gel, and get the fitness required for the fastest league in the world, they'll be very very good. i'm glad houllier wants to stay, and it appears he is. i hate to see managers leave after only a year or two as it does take four or so years to get your system in place. i do however think we need more creativity once in a while, i'm worried we're starting to become "boring boring liverpool". we're not, but that's what the critics say, and it does affect moral.


on a side note, apparently ManUre have had approx 250 corners this season and have failed to score from any of them. which makes me think that when they do start scoring from them, they'll be even more of a threat :(

[dstorey]

yeah it was an intresting article, just a shame the author was a bit biased and missed a lot of points like a pc user slagging the mac ;-) It was good to see a break down of the players we have bought through and how much, I'd like to see the players we have sold added to that and their values.

on a side note, apparently Heskey has had approx 250 shots this season and have failed to score from any of them bar 8. which makes me think that when he does start scoring from them, they'll [liverpool] be even more of a threat :)

haha nah i have nothijng against Heskey, he does some good work and has been pushed wide left...he must have something to be picked for lfc and england by two wise managers...but i couldnt resist. Also how many goalsdid cottee score up front with him at leic...i give up the spelling...you cant tell me that was cause he was a good player at that age, so like i said he must have been doing something right to help cotee score so much....hes just so dam fustraiting, hes built like a brick ahemhouse but he doesnt use it, and he scores like a lot then hides in a hole for the rest of the season..why cant he do it more often, he has the talent its just grrrrrrrr.

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Originally posted by dstorey
It was good to see a break down of the players we have bought through and how much, I'd like to see the players we have sold added to that and their values.


exactly. :)


yeah Heskey is a funny one ain't he? when Houllier had a go at him months ago he played out of his skin, but frustrating is definitely the word. at times his ball control is dire, he has a lot of room for improvement, he has shown flashes of world class, albeit too infrequently unfortunately.

Looking forward to tomorrow morning though, down t'pub at 10am for the City game, last of the year at Anfield :)

[dstorey]

i might join you for next season...any news on the new location? does new location want staff? ;) ...paid to watch the match now that would save me a fortune....

I really hope we win tomorrow, it will be a let down if the chelsea game doesn't mean anything.

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the AGM is in a few weeks, that's when we'll vote on whether we wanna move or not...


as for chelsea, i wouldn't be too upset if we went into that game needing a win, we'd play better that's for sure. we always get somplacent, it's what's killed us recently i reckon.


be good to see ya for next season fella :)

[dstorey]

as long as we dont lose against city and need to win like 15-0 cause of the goal difference. As it is the only way we can get away with a draw is if chelsea dont win against west ham or if newcastle lose tomorrow (as even if ncle win the last game then we will have better goal difference if we draw and end up on equal points)...of course newcastle could fail to take advantage by losing on the last day and we could draw and still go through.

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any predictions for the penultimate games of the season then????

here's mine: (in my best Grandstand voice)


Fulham 0 .... Everton 1

Liverpool 3 .... Manchester City 1

Manchester United 3 .... Charlton Athletic 0

Newcastle United 2 .... Birmingham City 2

West Ham United 1 .... Chelsea 2

Arsenal 5 .... Leeds United 2

[dstorey]

Classified football results with James Alexander Gordon

Fulham 1 .... Everton 1

Liverpool 3 .... Manchester City 0

Manchester United 1 .... Charlton Athletic 0
After 96 mins fergie time

Newcastle United 0 .... Birmingham City 1

West Ham United 2 .... Chelsea 0

Arsenal 4 .... Leeds United 0

4 score draws, two no score draws and the forcast is good.

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Originally posted by dstorey
Classified football results with James Alexander Gordon


That's the bloke i meant! top one mate

i hope your predictions are the right ones, not mine

[WinterMute]

Evo:

Yes I'll go with most of that, except I really think that the Hammers will overturn Chelsea, they are fighting for survival, they have Roeder to play for and Brooking is going ballistic in training apparently. I reckon they've got a chance.

That'd mean us going to Chelsea two points ahead, now that would be a game:D

dstorey:

Only 6 extra minutes? They are in the Theatre of Silence after all, we could get 20 minutes if it's still a draw at full-time.

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Originally posted by WinterMute
Evo:

Yes I'll go with most of that, except I really think that the Hammers will overturn Chelsea, they are fighting for survival, they have Roeder to play for and Brooking is going ballistic in training apparently. I reckon they've got a chance.

That'd mean us going to Chelsea two points ahead, now that would be a game:D


i'd certainly hope they could, and yer right, they have everything to play for, and to play for glenn too, big reason.

[dstorey]

the hammers are right on form too, only one loss in 8 and stupidly that was against bolton...what a costly mistake that could be. I really like west ham, dunno why...guess its cause they are less fasionable but have some great players past and present.

Yeah i hope my predictions come true except the man u one. I think ncle are in the same slide as us except winning the derby might have sorted them out

[dstorey]

ll the permitations of the two games for all us who dont have a calulator for a brain or lazy like me

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N140102030502-1638.htm

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Originally posted by dstorey
ll the permitations of the two games for all us who dont have a calulator for a brain or lazy like me

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N140102030502-1638.htm

Damn thats complicated, best if we just win both games and have done with it then.

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well bollocks, ManUre are 4-1 up at the moment.....damn.

i forgot this game was on telly, i would've woken up at 7, forgone conclusion anyways. at least i got the goal difference right (so far)

[dstorey]

I'd never get up that earlt to watch man u...in fact i'd never get u[p at all to watch them...except when LFC play against them of course. Just been reading Cisse wants to come to lfc and its known that ged always phones Auxerre seeing how he is so whats the chances that heskey will be on his way out?

weelcome to lfcrumours.com

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haha, ya know i just had to go see if that was actually a legit site, you should register it :)

sounds interesting, cisse has always been on the cards right?

ok, time to leave.... pulls on lucky long sleeve away jersey :)

[dstorey]

I'm watching the scouses own, apple films presents Yellow Submarine....its actually on BBC2. Then the real scousers are on in an hour...countdown begins...

[James.Paul]

I dont believe it, 2-1 defeat. Good job Chelsea lost as well. Congrats to Newcastle, I knew you'd do it.

Well it's all down to one game, we must win. In a way thats a little bit better as we don't go in there just sitting back in defence but if they can't beat Man City at home, well....

[Wes]

Manchester United for Life!

We are going to win the league, haha, suckers!!!!

[James.Paul]

Oh no!!! We've been infiltrated lads!

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by Wes
Manchester United for Life!

We are going to win the league, haha, suckers!!!!

Get back to your prawn sarnies, monkey boy:D

So, I go into the lions den next week with a winner takes all match... luverly, wouldn't have it any other way, another trophy season (even if it was the worst one I've ever seen from the 'Pool) and a grandstand finishing game.

Well done Newcastle, although they didn't play well apparently.

Bloody Anelka eh? I knew he'd get back at Le Boss eventually, still, if we can't beat Man City at Anfield maybe we don't deserve to play in the Champions league;)

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Originally posted by WinterMute
Get back to your prawn sarnies, monkey boy:D

So, I go into the lions den next week with a winner takes all match... luverly, wouldn't have it any other way, another trophy season (even if it was the worst one I've ever seen from the 'Pool) and a grandstand finishing game.

Well done Newcastle, although they didn't play well apparently.

Bloody Anelka eh? I knew he'd get back at Le Boss eventually, still, if we can't beat Man City at Anfield maybe we don't deserve to play in the Champions league;)


should be a cracking game, you've no idea how jealous i am mate...

oh, and why'd you have to go quote wes eh??? seeing that line in red once was enough :p ;)

nice to see carroll do a barthez for charlton's goal though hahahaha.

[WinterMute]

Give the lad his moment of gloating, he knows he supports an inferior team, as do all Man Ure supporters, I should know, most of them live in London...

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Originally posted by WinterMute
Give the lad his moment of gloating, he knows he supports an inferior team, as do all Man Ure supporters, I should know, most of them live in London...

hehe, fair play. that's what i found odd about "cold feet", it was set in manchester AND they supported United, very strange ;)

mind you, we're Liverpool fans and we live in London and New York. I'll stop right there me thinks... :)

[britboy]

Originally posted by evoluzione
hehe, fair play. that's what i found odd about "cold feet", it was set in manchester AND they supported United, very strange ;)

mind you, we're Liverpool fans and we live in London and New York. I'll stop right there me thinks... :)


As I understand it, most mancurians support city :confused:

I guess that not all of them are glory-seekers, like everyone makes them out to be.

[Wes]

Originally posted by britboy
As I understand it, most mancurians support city :confused:

I guess that not all of them are glory-seekers, like everyone makes them out to be.

Me... Glory-seeker? You are just jealous that you weren't born on the right side of Manchester, or the right city for that matter! *Scoffs* You dare to compare your bunch of lads to utd??? *Another evil laugh*.:p

[WinterMute]

Welllllllllllll... being as you brought it up...

Wasn't this season the first time you've beaten us in any competition for like, five years? Didn't we beat the snot out of your wonderful boys in Cardiff earlier this year in a (gasp) CUP FINAL... Isn't this the poorest season we've EVER had?

Just remember, football isn't a matter of life and death, it's much more important than that:D :D :D

Come and talk to me the year you win five trophies in one season:p ;) :D

[Wes]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Welllllllllllll... being as you brought it up...

Wasn't this season the first time you've beaten us in any competition for like, five years? Didn't we beat the snot out of your wonderful boys in Cardiff earlier this year in a (gasp) CUP FINAL... Isn't this the poorest season we've EVER had?

Just remember, football isn't a matter of life and death, it's much more important than that:D :D :D

Come and talk to me the year you win five trophies in one season:p ;) :D

All I know is that we are going to win the league, and you're not. Ok enough squabbling, it could go on forever. But I've always had a soft-spot for Liverpool, I'm waiting for the day when Owen partners Nistelrooy up front. :D

[evoluzione]

hehe, WinterMute, some top points raised there, um *cough* five trophies! :D oh, and um, HOW many league titles have we won??? hmmmm ;)
great shanks quote there too...

wes, as much as i hate utd, i gotta respect them, very good team, still not good enough to win champs league mind, but then, none of the teams in england are i don't think. seriously though, it's the fans that i dislike more, they're way too arrogant, there are exceptions of course :) i don't think i've ever had a decent football convo with a utd fan, this being the first i believe. it's all good natured, and that's the way it should be :)

come on you gooners!!!! ;)

[evoluzione]

nice li'l website there by the way Wes :)

[Wes]

Originally posted by evoluzione

still not good enough to win champs league mind, but then.

Man Utd. won it a few years ago, but after seeing Real Madrid, we still have a ways to go. But Real have old players, wait a few years and utd. will have some whippersnappers to whiz past them. :D

Oh, and thanks about the site!

[evoluzione]

yeah, '99 i believe they won it, but they've failed in either the quarters or semis since. further than we've got mind...

yeah liverpool will be challenging you for that too, we have some top talent, just not working right at the moment hehe

[evoluzione]

wow, what a result for leeds.
that's good for our chances of getting the chelsea v liverpool game televised over here :D :D :D

congrats Wes

[Wes]

Wicked! I'm happy, going to watch match of the day later! I wish you luck in the Chelsea game. I really would like to see Liverpool win, none of these forieigners!;)

[WinterMute]

Yes, congrats Man U, Leeds wait till the bitter end to start playing some football:D I'll bet Wenger's gutted...

I have intelligent converstaions with a Man U supporter fairly often, my wife supports 'em, luckily not just cos Beckham plays there either (although I think Cantona had something to do with it;) ) She actually knows her footy... for a girl:p :p

Here's to Saturday and a damn good game, then we can watch Arsenal win the FA cup and start speculating about next season.

[James.Paul]

Fair do's, congratulations Manchester United, Arsenal ran out of steam and didn't really have a big enough squad to do it. Over here were going to have 3 games televised at once including Liverpool vs Chelsea. I'm getting excited now. This is the cup final of all games.

Good Luck to Paolo's happy hammers. I'd like to see them stay up and Bolton go down. Not a football decision though, an ex girlfriend comes from Bolton and goes to all the games. In fact when Bolton beat Liverpool 2-1 last year, she was on Sky Sports jumping up and down celebrating!!! I was not chuffed!!!!

Anyway, Man Utd celebrate now cos In 3-4 years, the main challengers will be Darlington and Liverpool. A new dynasty is going to appear. Come on Darlo, George get your wallet out. Forget Faustino Asprilla, only Ronaldo will do this season.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by James.Paul
Fair do's, congratulations Manchester United, Arsenal ran out of steam and didn't really have a big enough squad to do it. Over here were going to have 3 games televised at once including Liverpool vs Chelsea. I'm getting excited now. This is the cup final of all games.

Good Luck to Paolo's happy hammers. I'd like to see them stay up and Bolton go down. Not a football decision though, an ex girlfriend comes from Bolton and goes to all the games. In fact when Bolton beat Liverpool 2-1 last year, she was on Sky Sports jumping up and down celebrating!!! I was not chuffed!!!!

Anyway, Man Utd celebrate now cos In 3-4 years, the main challengers will be Darlington and Liverpool. A new dynasty is going to appear. Come on Darlo, George get your wallet out. Forget Faustino Asprilla, only Ronaldo will do this season.

hahaha, we've all been wondering what game we're gonna get stateside, it's looking good now as the 'pool game is the biggie. we were making plans for me to get a powerbook in the pub and hook it up to the cable and tv system so we can stream the sideshow over the stereo etc. the e-season ticket on the lfc website is actually pretty darm good. :) hopefully there'll be no need.

we're by the bollocks over here though, my uncle just tried getting Setanta (satellite co who have the FA Cup rights) in his pub, and they're like, nah, we have enough pubs in nyc carrying it. WTF!?!?! there's about 3! talk about stupid. it's easy money in their pocket. argh, some of these companies make me so angry!

[britboy]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Yes, congrats Man U, Leeds wait till the bitter end to start playing some football:D I'll bet Wenger's gutted...

I have intelligent converstaions with a Man U supporter fairly often, my wife supports 'em, luckily not just cos Beckham plays there either (although I think Cantona had something to do with it;) ) She actually knows her footy... for a girl:p :p

Here's to Saturday and a damn good game, then we can watch Arsenal win the FA cup and start speculating about next season.


I was in the pub yesterday watching the match....what an atmosphere! It was a great game to watch, even if we did lose it. What annoys me though is that many teams seem to reserve their best football for when they're playing against arsenal. Look at what Leeds, Bolton et all have done.

All the same though, congrats to man utd. They deserve the title, considering how hard they've battled this season. Enjoy it whilst you can wes, because next season...... ;)

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by britboy
What annoys me though is that many teams seem to reserve their best football for when they're playing against arsenal. Look at what Leeds, Bolton et all have done.

likewise mate, i always get nervous when liverpool play a "lesser" team, we always muff it up. and we always seem to bring out the best in their goalie too, the amount of games lately where their 'keeper has been man of the match....

[Wes]

Originally posted by britboy
Enjoy it whilst you can wes, because next season...... ;)

Oh I am, my mother being the Arsenal Fan she is...

[MOFS]

Originally posted by dstorey
Classified football results with James Alexander Gordon

Fulham 1 .... Everton 1

Liverpool 3 .... Manchester City 0

Manchester United 1 .... Charlton Athletic 0
After 96 mins fergie time

Newcastle United 0 .... Birmingham City 1

West Ham United 2 .... Chelsea 0

Arsenal 4 .... Leeds United 0

4 score draws, two no score draws and the forcast is good.

Wait a minute - you forgot two other games!

Middlesbrough 5.... Tottenham 1! Super Maccarone, Juninho, Ugo and Nemeth!

Bolton 0...Soton 0

PS - do ya reckon Middlesbrough and Newcastle are metaphors for Apple? I mean, they all look like they're going to breakthrough to the next level, but then oh no! Something happens! As a Boro and an Apple fan, I'd have to say yes, but what does anyone else think?:confused:

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by MOFS
Wait a minute - you forgot two other games!

Middlesbrough 5.... Tottenham 1! Super Maccarone, Juninho, Ugo and Nemeth!

what a tonkin' eh? i couldn't believe it when i heard that.

what's up with Spurs and Leeds anyways? they're both great teams and should be way higher than they are...

[WinterMute]

Houllier reports that he's been promised at least 15 million for purchases in the closed season regardless of whether the 'Pool qualify for the Champion's League or not, he specifically mentioned Cisse and Damien Duff as targets, but mentioned that he was also tracking two or three other possibles.

No mention as to anyone exiting Anfield...

Any thoughts?

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Houllier reports that he's been promised at least 15 million for purchases in the closed season regardless of whether the 'Pool qualify for the Champion's League or not, he specifically mentioned Cisse and Damien Duff as targets, but mentioned that he was also tracking two or three other possibles.

No mention as to anyone exiting Anfield...

Any thoughts?


hmmm, not sure about players leaving, i'm sure the dead wood will be cut though, players like Biscan perhaps. although he does seem to play better in defense, nerve rattling though.

however, the good news is!!!......the Chelsea v Liverpool game is on TV!!!!!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!! 10am Sunday morning, superb. go down t'pub, have a nice brekky, and hopefully celebrate with the girls hahaha. can't wait!!!!!

[dstorey]

I'm back....too gutted after the last game to even look at the thread :-( dam I mean any result was going to be good from when we were leading and chelsea wern't. once chelsea went behind it made no difference as we were winning, made no difference that city drew level as a draw was still good enough...didn't make a difference if chelsea equalised when we were winning cause we would have still been above them then bang bloody anelka put us on the same standing of chelsea ofter 2.5 fergie minutes. Really gutted....we had a great chance tyo d it...have we blown it? Well chelsea are our bogey team, its at stanford bridge and they dont have to win so maybe...its gonna be difficult but its there to win. I'm usually wrong so i predict a 3-0 hammering by chelsea just so i can be wrong again and we win...well thats the theory.... come on you blues....;-)

[WinterMute]

This is going to be good, watch for me, I'll be the one in the 'Pool shirt in the middle of the Chelsea block (chuckle).

C'mon you Reds:D

Yoooouuuu'llll Neeeeevveeeerrrr Waaaaalk Aaaaaalooooone... (bad singing voice)

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
This is going to be good, watch for me, I'll be the one in the 'Pool shirt in the middle of the Chelsea block (chuckle).

C'mon you Reds:D

Yoooouuuu'llll Neeeeevveeeerrrr Waaaaalk Aaaaaalooooone... (bad singing voice)


i was thinking of going into the man u pub in the city wearing an everton shirt if they were still fighting for the title. thank god they're not.

should be a good 'un at stamford bridge that's for sure. i think we can do 'em over.

bah, time for a nice cup of PG

[WinterMute]

I see the Toffees were bitching about the championship trophy being awarded at Goodison, they eventually agreed that it could be presented after the match and after the Everton team had done a lap of honour, and presumably after all the Everton fans had buggered off home:D

Just had a nice Rosie myself, luvverly.

[evoluzione]

<----- everyone like my new 'tar??? :D

[Wes]

Each to his own, but I'd prefer this: http://www.upperdeck.com/images/collection/international/manu_logo.gif

[dstorey]

right lads......1...2.....3......JUMP THE MANC &^%^$ ;)

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by evoluzione
<----- everyone like my new 'tar??? :D

Now that's what I call a 'tar:D

Bugger, I'm going to have to think of a new one now...

[Jaykay]

Um, Valencia anybody?

[evoluzione]

Jaykay. please. :)

Wes, i see you're a proud enough ManUre fan to have it as your 'tar :D ;)

[dstorey]

well the big day is but 24 hours and 10 mins away......

[britboy]

Originally posted by Jaykay
Um, Valencia anybody?


Deffinitely. Valencia are my second team. When I was at school in spain, they were the team I supported. It made things a little tricky when Valencia were playing Arsenal in the champions league!

[WinterMute]

Right, I'm off to Stamford Bridge, I've got my 'Pool shirt on and I'm in with the Reds fans :D Billy, my student steward friend at Chelsea managed to get me tickets that weren't right in the middle of the Headhunters stand:eek:

I'll post when I get back, although you'll all know the result by then.

C'MON YOU REDS

[dstorey]

its time to prey to the football gods ;-) have the threat huddle and C'mon you REDS .......

lets beat the southern softies ;-)

YNWA

[dstorey]

1-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hail Hyypia

dam gutted 2-1 chelsea....we need 2 goals....comon baros, come on owen....

[britboy]

Originally posted by dstorey
1-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hail Hyypia

dam gutted 2-1 chelsea....we need 2 goals....comon baros, come on owen....


Final results are in, and unfortunately you didn't make it. My brother-in-law (chelsea supporter) will be rather pleased with this. Better luck next season. At least you're in europe, which at one stage this season it didn't look like you were even going to manage that.
Roll on the FA Cup Final! :)

[WinterMute]

Right, I'm back and just starting to get dry, can I just say:

GUTTED

Great game, bags of atmosphere, Chelsea fans were great, as were the 'Pool fans, singing right to the end, I had a bad feeling when I got to Stamford Bridge and found Hamann wasn't playing, he lets Gerrard get much further forward, but when Hyppia's goal went in I though we might have had a chance, well, for all of about a minute anyway... did I say

GUTTED ?

Their defence was excellent, Cudicini saved well from Gerrard in the second half, but we really didn't look like scoring after half-time.

Still, a season with a trophy isn't all bad, but I'm still

GUTTED

did I mention that?

Here's to next season... another UEFA cup in the bag I guess.:D

[evoluzione]

:(
the only thing good about today was that it's raining, always kinda relaxing to walk home in the rain after a 'pool loss.

the wrong team showed up today, my theory is still proving right too, every time we score in the first 12 minutes, we lose.

at least a got a couple of bevvies free and a load of hugs n kisses heh, suddenly everything felt right with the world, for a split second anyways.


"when you walk....through a storm....hold your head up high....and don't, be afraid, of the dark....at the end of a storm....there's a golden sky....and the sweet silver song....of a lark....walk on, through the wind....walk on, through the rain....for your dreams be tossed, and blown...walk on....walk on....with hope, in your heart....And you'll never walk alone....You'll never walk alone."

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by evoluzione


"when you walk....through a storm....hold your head up high....and don't, be afraid, of the dark....at the end of a storm....there's a golden sky....and the sweet silver song....of a lark....walk on, through the wind....walk on, through the rain....for your dreams be tossed, and blown...walk on....walk on....with hope, in your heart....And you'll never walk alone....You'll never walk alone."

Now that is a sentiment I TOTALLY agree with, along with:

"Ohhhh, Sami, Sami.... Sami, Sami, Sami, Sami Hyppia."

The man was a god amongst mortals this season, Le Bosses best buy.

[WinterMute]

Patrik Berger signed to Portsmouth today on a free transfer.

I always liked Berger as a player, I'll be sad to see him go, but he didn't feature much in the last few years, mainly through injury.

Good man, always tried hard.

Good luck Patrik.

[evoluzione]

yer kidding??? damn, I always liked "paddy" too. those long flowing locks haha, i had hair like him three years ago, nearly got lucky too, girl i know through a mate used to watch liverpool just for patrik. guess i'll be looking out for the pompey now. strange no one else picked him up though, he's gonna be top scorer for sure.......

[WinterMute]

He was talking to Leeds, and everyone assumed he'd go there to shore up their midfield, but Pompey grabbed him first, and as they've just been promoted to the Premiership, I guess they're gonna need players like him.

[WinterMute]

Liverpool have signed Fulham's Irish international defender Steve Finnan for 3.5 mil, he's an attacking left full back in the Riise mould.

Rushy rates him.

Wonder where this leaves Jamie Carragher?

Still chasing Cisse...

[MOFS]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Liverpool have signed Fulham's Irish international defender Steve Finnan for 3.5 mil, he's an attacking left full back in the Riise mould.

Rushy rates him.

Wonder where this leaves Jamie Carragher?

Still chasing Cisse...

From what I've seen of Finnan, he looks good. Apparently Arsenal and Man Utd were looking at him last season. Cisse doesn't think he's going to leave this summer.

I just hope Boro get Geremi...

[WinterMute]

Gerrard Houllier, Liverpool's indestructable manager, has been awarded an honorary OBE for services to football.

Well done Le Boss.:D

(Arsene Wenger got one too, but his doesn't count cos he's a goooooonnnnnneeeerrrrrr);) ;)

Incedentally, Steve Finnan is right-sided, not left as I stated earlier.

MOFS

Cisse reckons he will play for Liverpool one day, but thinks he'll stay at Auxerre one more season.

[evoluzione]

carragher's bollocks, the sooner we get rid of him the better s'far as i'm concerned. good news on the signing though, cheap too

[evoluzione]

so less than 24 hours before we see the fixture list for the upcoming 2003/4 season...
my betting is on a first game away to Portsmouth, with Paddy scoring the winner. unfortunately.
heh, high hopes for the season eh? :rolleyes:

[WinterMute]

lol

I always reckon on old players coming back to haunt you, look at Anelka last season:(

Cmon you reds:D

[dstorey]

In light of sad recent events -

Gerard Houllier has spoken out about how Marc-Vivien Foe was very supportive of him when he took ill back in 2001 and insists he's distraught about his death.

Liverpool manager Houllier was speaking in the aftermath of Foe's shock death on Thursday and, clearly moved, said: "Everyone at Liverpool is distraught and are thoughts are with his wife and children. Personally I knew him very well. We were on the same plane from Manchester to Paris for the Confederations Cup and spent two hours together.

"Marc was a very, very nice lad and he was very supportive to me when I had my health problems. I am devastated by the news. The whole of football is in mourning and we'll miss him as a player and as a man."

I'm sure I speak for all Liverpool fans that our hearts are with the Foe's Family, friends and Man City fans at this moment. You'll Never Walk Alone

[WinterMute]

Well said dstorey, he was a talent, no doubt.

[Juventuz]

I'm jumping in a little late on this one, but my favorite club is Juventus (as if my name doesn't give it away). I tend to watch a lot of English football as well and became an avid Man City fan in the mid '90s. I still am too.

It's nice to see some footy fans on here.

Oh and don't knock MLS, it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

[dstorey]

Man City...mid 90's...Britpop...anything to do with Oasis was it? ;) Only reason I can think of for being a fan of the better half of manchester round that time, apart from being a Manc yourself of course, which you don't seem to be.

[Juventuz]

Nope, I'm not an Oasis fan. Never was, never will be.

I was in college at the time and a number of people were all ManUre fans so I went in the opposite direction. I'm glad I did too.

I saw Newcastle play here in the States a couple years ago. They put on a decent show, even though they lost.

[WinterMute]

Rumour has it that Harry Kewell has agreed a deal to move to Anfield, no fee mentioned, but he's asking for £60K a week:eek:

A good addition?

[dstorey]

'arry Kewell is expected to complete a £7 million move to Liverpool within the next 24 hours after snubbing last-ditch bids from Manchester United and Chelsea.

The transfer saga looks set to reach a conclusion by Tuesday at the latest, with the Australian winger opting to join his boyhood heroes.

Kewell, who has turned his back on the offer of becoming Leeds' highest-paid player on £48,000-per-week, has apparently already agreed a £60,000-per-week package at Anfield.

The player is to 'reveal' his choice to a TV station in his homeland on Tuesday July 8. He said: "I have been speaking with them (the club concerned) for over six months and everything just seems to be right for me to go there."

I've liked this player for ages...seems so long ago that Leeds were flying high with all the england u21 stars and top young gubs like Kewell. IMHO he is far better than Duff and been on the scene longer and also played champions leauge football..anyone remember how he played when leeds reached the 1/4 finals? He's also a lfc fan while duff is a manc i think. Just hope he slams in a goal or two vs Chelsea on the opening day...and hoope they dont sign too many top players before we play them. The only week area i see now is possibly right wing, but Diouf was playing well at the end of last season, Le Tallac's comming and murphy was our best player last season...hes not a winger but i remember arsenal doing so well with only one winger (overmars) and parlour on the right, who's hardly a flying winger.

[WinterMute]

I think he'd be an excellent addition, providing the width we lack on occasion, a fine player.

Any thoughts on the rumour that McManaman might be moving back to merseyside?

[evoluzione]

i'm well 'appy that 'arry's coming to us, i've always liked him, and he seems like the osrt of lad that'd be proud to wear the red shirt, although the wages bill kinda contradicts that, but hey, what player isn't like that these days?

he'll do well, i'm pretty sure of that, and we as a team will do well too...just gotta get this damn consistency thing sorted...

[WinterMute]

There a glitch with the Kewell transfer, he's seeking a severence payment from Leeds as he didn't ask to be transfer listed, which sounds a bit greedy to me. Word is he'll announce at the end of the week, but there is a concensus that it'll be the 'Pool who sign him.

Rumour has it that McManaman is going to Man City...:p

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Rumour has it that McManaman is going to Man City...:p


noooooo, damn, well better the blue half than ManUre eh.

i'll have to have a word with jimmy at anfield, see what the latest is.

oh, and I'm now one of the "directors" of the Liverpool FC New York Supporters Club :D and we are recognised by LFC too, we have tickets to the ManUre game in November already secured...should be flying over for that one hopefully.

[dstorey]

Kewell signed today for 5 Million. an un-named side offered 9 mill, but Kewell said he'd sit out his contract if he didnt get his way. Turns out Leeds claim that of the 5 Mill, They will only get 3, the other two goes to Harry...Bit unfair if you ask me with the dire straights they are in and Kewell's 60 grand a week wages...as if he needs the 2 million. Kinda puts a dampner on things, but hey, 5 millions a great deal for us, leaves 12 million for the likes of Cisse or others...and even if Harry's been bit of a money grabber to a certain extent, at least he turned down more money to go to LFC...so we have pulling power and its hell of a lot better than signing Bowyer. Thats the only transfer that I've ever been dead against and couldn't have supported even if he scored a hat trick vs manure.

But now with Kewell, thats Finnan and Kewell that turned down Man 'we can sign anyone' united for LFC....would love to see our favorite drunken scotsmans face now.

[billyboy]

Liverpool are my 2nd favourite team, but only because i resisted the temptation to support the strongest team in Europe at the time of puberty - the obligatory time to nail your football colours to the mast. As a born supporter of the underdog, I primarily follow Leicester City, who have been my team ever since Liverpool beat them in an FA Cup tie when I was about 10.

I think the only statistic that Leicester has to eclipse Liverpool, and every other team probably in the world, is their pedigree for goalkeepers. Clinging desparately to the past, remember Gordon Banks and a novice called Peter Shilton? I guess Mark Wallington, Casey Keller and Tim Flowers were hardly in the class of One Eye and Mr Hairdo, but still they have all played a few games for their country.

Oh yeah, and Gary Lineker wasnt a bad export either.

Roll on another flash in the pan lucrative Premiership season. My prediction for two of the impending defeats is LCFC 1- LFC 2, and LFC 2 - LCFC 0.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by billyboy
Oh yeah, and Gary Lineker wasnt a bad export either.

and what about Emile Ivanhoe Heskey???? he even gave money to Lineker for his Leicester City Consortium thingy :)

[WinterMute]

I read an interview with Smicer today, he thinks that Kewell's signing signals the end of his spell at Anfield, he thinks there's no room for him with the new additions.

All I can say is YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS :D

About bloody time, Smicer is the most consistently useless player in the squad, and I am including Abel Xavier in that.

Kewell's signing just gets better and better:D

[billyboy]

Originally posted by evoluzione
and what about Emile Ivanhoe Heskey???? he even gave money to Lineker for his Leicester City Consortium thingy :)

I thought the jury was still out on Bruno, so I kept quiet. And if he does fulfill his potential, LFC have to take the credit, cause he can only achieve the max by mixing it with class - unless of course your name is Matthew Le Tissier and you still walk on water with 10 players hanging round your neck.

[evoluzione]

sad to hear about Milan Baros and Jamie Carragher, both suffering broken legs this weekend against Blackburn. As much as I think Jamie sucks, he's been dead good so far this season and i don't want to see him out of the side all together, and Milan, well, the kid just gets better and better.

[dstorey]

Milan is probably my fav player since Redders and Paddy left. He's been scoring for fun for the Czechs and slowly replacing Emile here. Sadly it was one of our own players as well than injured him, all be it accidently. I hope it's not one of them injury's that make a player come back, not the player he used to be, with him getting a steel plate in that broken ankle et al.

The Carra tackle was a pure discrace, and the fact alot of BBR fans were sticking up for it, saying it was a fair challenge is pretty discusting too.

On apositive note, we stuffed the toffey men and now blackburn, and sudenly we have a great attacking side on our hands with Dioufy, Kewell and Smicer being able to swap positions atr will, dragging defenders out of positon unless they are using zonal marking. Is it me or is Hou trying total football....there was a method in the madness of buying playes that can play multiple possitons after all ;) Hou gets a lot of undisearved stick for the fact he saved this club from the souness and evens era. Just one look on the teamtalk yoursay pages and it makes out that souness was a much more sucessful manager! I know who i'd prefere to have - Milan, dioufy and hyypia or Paul Steward, Mark Walters and Torban Pichnik (haha dont even really remember that guys name).

Is some one taking the piss on this site or is there two Manchester united adverts at the bottom of this page!!! how'd that happen? I think google is trying to wind us all up.

[Juventuz]

LOL, I just saw those ManUre adverts except I see three instead of two.

CTID

[evoluzione]

i agree with ya there mate, Houllier is much better than Souness and Evans, of course, Graeme was an awesome player for us, just not the management part. However, i think he (Hou) needs to be a bit tougher, rather than complimenting the guys every game saying we were unlucky, get stuck in a la Shanks and 'ave a shout or too. Maybe that's what he's started doing as we seem to be playing some beautiful football again and scoring some great wins.

I think the time for Heskey to show what he can do couldn't have come at a better time, last year when Hou had a word with him, he played great for a few games, let's hope he can fulfill his potential, he's got it in him, somewhere.

[evoluzione]

oh, to reitterate my view on Carragher, I may not think he's the best of our players but he has what all the others should, the insatiable desire to pull on that red shirt and give 110% for the full 95 minutes. :)

[dstorey]

Yeah I agree, Hou needs to be more mean, though mabe thats Thompsons job...but the way he is always shouting, the players probably block him out after a while ;) It's great to see good old thommo still loves LFC...whether Souness does is open to debate. I think he's suffereing from the old chip/shoulder thing.

I think our new couch from fullham is a lot to do with our attacking play also... We seem to be passng and moving now, and boy is it nice to watch...hopefully as the season wears on it will only improve.

Heskey has it in him somewhere (witness 3ble season, well parts of it) and england vs the Argies whe nhe was still at lCFC. He just needs to find it again...He's so fustrating that guy....he's exactly what we need as a foil to owen...

if he would just show it. But if not we have Pong...U think you said he was more impressive than le tellec last season, and boy does le tellec look good...makes me think ronaldo who> when he gets on the ball, even though i wish we bought ron after he said he wanted to come here. Van Der Vaart is another that looked likely for a while, and rosicky. Both great players but with kewell and diouf playing well its hard to see where they would get in, as even if we drop smicer (a hou fav and playing well to be fair, and a very likeable guy) then it will stifle ALT's chances...

[Wes]

Wow, some cool ads these are on Macrumors, and I conclude that when 'Pool play Man Utd. again, it will be 2-1 United.

[dstorey]

Nah, it says... Liverpool Fc packages Manchester united...therefor i conclude we will give you a good going over in your box and destroy you 5-0

[WinterMute]

OK, you turn your back for a few minutes and someone resurrects the best thread on the board...:D

Carra's out for 6 months, Baros is out till christmas...:mad:

It was a criminal tackle on Carra, much maligned though he is, he gets better every season, luckily, Henchoz is back in full training and will be back in the team soon.

There were a load of articles in the tabloids, apparently Le Boss went overboard when he found out about Carra's leg, called the bloke who tackled him a coward and a cheat:D I think Houlier has a lot more steel in him than most people think.

I'm glad to see Kewell, Owen and Diouf hitting their stride, and who knows, maybe this will be the chance for ol Donkey Heskey to show his stuff.

[Foucault]

soccer sucks. American Football is a real man's sport...

[Wes]

Originally posted by Foucault
soccer sucks. American Football is a real man's sport...

oh MY GOD, please, do real men were pads and run around in tights?

[dstorey]

Originally posted by Foucault
soccer sucks. American Football is a real man's sport...

haha, real men have to wear pads t cover almost all their body huh? ;) That kinda reminds me of a story my canadian friend was telling me about over in norrth america, football is considered a mans game (how?) but rugby...basically a more violent form of football (american) with NO pads is conidered a wuss's or a womans sport....errmmmm how you guys work that one out...i have no idea...not that I like the egg chase, and much befere soccer to that, but it's most definatly a hard guys sport.

Actually that canadian girl placed rugby as a winger (are they called backs in the egg chase, who knows?), she looked pretty hot and slim to look at, but some big guy pinched her ass, and she turned round, punched him in the face and he went flying on the floor...he was like twice the size of her or something...bet he's never lived that down with his mates...

[WinterMute]

I could never figure out how over-muscled steriod bags that can't run for more than a minute without getting a rest can be compared favourable to footballers who run continuosly for 90-odd minutes, or rugby players who clash padless for a constant 80...

Lets face it, Phil Tufnell is fitter than most US football players...;) ;) :D :D

[Juventuz]

I used to have a bumper sticker on my car back in high school that read...

"Men Play Football, Intelligent Men Play Soccer"

Please don't mind the ignorant American, we've got plenty of them over here. There are also PLENTY of Americans who love football. It's currently the second most played sport here. MLS is growing every year and our National Team is making great strides. Give us time, we'll be on par with the major European teams soon enough. I think that scares a lot of Europeans though.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by Foucault
soccer sucks. American Football is a real man's sport...

moron.

yeah so that's why two Liverpool players broke bones on Saturday? wake up you idiot. It shouldn't even be called football.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
OK, you turn your back for a few minutes and someone resurrects the best thread on the board...:D


haha, cheers fella :)

[Juventuz]

Originally posted by evoluzione
It shouldn't even be called football.

Do you know why it's called football here in the US?

You can't blame the Americans for calling it Soccer, the English came up with that one.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by Juventuz
Do you know why it's called football here in the US?

You can't blame the Americans for calling it Soccer, the English came up with that one.

can't say that i do to be honest mate, just doesn't seem like the most logical of names to be quite honest, i mean, how often is the ball actually kicked?

and as for the word soccer, i hate that word, who the hell came up with it anyways? (I mean more specifically than the English)

:)

[dstorey]

some posh guy i seem to remember, it came about as a shorter version of Association Football I think. Mabe to make it stand out better from Rugby football but i'm not sure (another sport where it is hardly kicked).

I've dug a bit deeper and found this:

"Near the end of 1863, Charles Wreford-Brown, who later became a notable official of the Football Association, was asked by some friends at Oxford whether he cared to join them for a game of "rugger" (rugby). He is said to have refused, preferring instead to go for a game of "soccer" - a play on the word "association". The name caught on.

English public schoolboys love to nickname things, then as much as now. The tendency is to add "er" to the end of many words. Rugby [Union] Football became "rugby", and then "rugger". Association Football was better know as "assoccer" and naturally evolved into "soccer" which is much easier for a schoolboy to say... "

[Juventuz]

Yup, he's got it....

Rugby developed into American Football. If you look at both of them, they've very similiar. Every wonder why they call it a touchdown? The goal posts used to be in front of the end zone as well.

[dstorey]

do you know why a try is called a try (ruggers touchdown)? Cause when the guy that invented rugby by picking the ball up and running with it into the net in a association football match, asked the ref...'was that a goal', he said' no, but it was a jolly good try"

[evoluzione]

sweet, cheers for that, you learn something new every day :)

so any predictions for the Liverpool v Leceister game on Saturday??? They tore Leeds apart yesterday so i've a feeling it's going to be a pretty exciting game.....

[dstorey]

Leeds?......ahem.....who are they? Oh right the bargin bin we picked Harry Kewell out of in the summer sales... ;) They did a nice job in getting him ready for us anyway haha.

Seriously, no matter how bad leeds are turning, We've traditionally over the last few years done really bad against the smaller teams such as LC FC...but i think the last two fixtures, non other than Emile Ivanhoe Heskey scored in 1-0 wins. More of the same please Emile. I'll put a guess on 2-0, Heskey and Smicer...but I know I'll be wrong. If Le Tellec plays then i wouldnt bet against him scoring too.

[WinterMute]

I'm up for the game, I was at college in Leicester and still have many friends there, I'm visiting a few and we're off to the game:D

I've got 2-0, Kewell first and then Owen, Heskey'll play and get in all kinds of bother:D

It's gonna be a good one.

[dstorey]

Oh yeah....we beat leceister (spelt right?...it is impossible to spell). Not a classic but we have often struggled against teams that sit back and defend, so thats progress....and whats this Emile scores and owen has scored 3 pens :o Would have been nice to keep the clean sheet but I'd have taken 2-1 at the start of play. Lets go and tonk Charlton and that slovenian team i have no chance of spelling right. Only real negative point was that the reports say Anfield was ghostly quiet.

[BenWakin]

Originally posted by Juventuz
Yup, he's got it....

Rugby developed into American Football. If you look at both of them, they've very similiar

I love watching rugby as well as American football. But you don't see rugby players standing in the pocket getting blasted by linesmen or linebackers at full speed. True rugby is so much more of a contact sport than American football, and rugby players are in tip-top shape overall compared to American football players overall.

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by BenWakin
I love watching rugby as well as American football. But you don't see rugby players standing in the pocket getting blasted by linesmen or linebackers at full speed. True rugby is so much more of a contact sport than American football, and rugby players are in tip-top shape overall compared to American football players overall.

Wait till you see Wilkinson and Greenwood taking it out on the three-quater line in the world cup later this year, Wilkinson hits harder than anyone bar Jason Leonard:D

Anfield was as quiet as I've heard it, but it was still noisy, the fans were behind the team alright.

Not a great victory, but a good one, Heskey played well, and took the chance, Kewell is a gem.

Bring on Charlton, we are getting better.

[dstorey]

What does everyone think of the constant rumoUrs about Rosicky being linked to us? I think he is the one that looked a class act when we played them in the champions leauge and he was by and far their best player..hiting the crosbar i seem to remember too, unless I'm mixing him up with another ofg their players. If its him, I have wanted him to sign since then as he looked amazing. Where he'd play though now kewell is here, diouf is on fire ans smicer is playing well, i have no idea. Plus it may lessen the chances of Le Tellec to get in. I gues it would be bye bye murphy 9unless he wanted to be a real bit part player) id he does arive in the winter.

Although i think Ged will pull out all the stops to get Owen to sign a new contract, who thinks it seems more and more likely we are hunting out Cisse as a replacement for him...what with no noises from owen about signing and him complaining first about us not attacking enough, and the nafter the blackburn win, about us not creating enough chances at home. Again, if Owen stays and Cisse comes, with Baros hopefully not being effected by the injury and being back around the transfer window, we will have too many forwards. Its maybe one from heskey or owen that could leave.

[WinterMute]

I spoke too soon, a scrappy performance saw the Reds go down 3-2 to a hatrick from Charlton's Lisbie.

Smicer scored in the first half from an excellent Kewell pass, and Owen from the spot in the second half, although I thought it was a bit harsh.

The defence went AWOL too easily and Dudek had a bit of a nightmare really, he was definately to blame for the second, spilling a take from corner directly into Liskies path.

We really need to put teams like Charlton away if we stand any chance of challenging for the Championship or even Europe next season.:(

[evoluzione]

what a poor performance, we had some good spells but stevie g wasn't on top form and sami had a 'mare. diouf and 'arry were good, again, emile had some good close control (woah) and smicer played rather well.

not all gloom n doom, but not what we need.

[WinterMute]

Smicer is actually putting a few good performances together, he's played well both times I've seen them and I think he might be in a better formation with Kewell running the lines the way he does.

We really miss Hamann in front of the back four, and as you say, we're always struggling when Stevie has a bad un.

[WinterMute]

Micheal Owen, injured in the game with the Arse on Saturday is traveling to Turkey with the England squad, and id reported to be 50/50 to play. He tore the membrane between the bones in his lower leg, but didn't damage the ankle joint.

I saw the fall, I thought he'd ripped his foot off:eek:

[evoluzione]

you should have heard us in the pub when they slow-mo'd the fall.

pissed to see him go to turkey though, he's only gonna get kicked to death, let's hope becks keeps an eye out (did i just say that?)

hear about otsemabor though? got shot in the ass :eek: seriously

[britboy]

Originally posted by evoluzione

hear about otsemabor though? got shot in the ass :eek: seriously


That cracked me up :p

His mum is quoted in the papers, saying "He doesn't like to go out at night". Ha! That explains why he was shot late at night in the city-centre.......

Maybe this is how the FA plan to stop players diving? Seriously, if their arse is in pain, they'll do all they can to stop themselves falling on it!

[britboy]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Micheal Owen......I saw the fall, I thought he'd ripped his foot off:eek:


Thankfully it wasn't damaging to our progress. Whatever the ins and outs of recent events, injuries, boycotts etc, we're through to the Euro 2004 finals! :) :D :)

England 0 - 0 Turkey
'twas pretty exciting for a nil-nil draw though. The turkish players were diving all over the place!

[WinterMute]

Liverpool put in a very impressive display to dispatch Olympija 3-0 (4-1) last night at Anfield.

With Owen, Biscan, Hamann and Carra sidelined it looked an odd team with Kewell on roving forward duty and a start for LeTellac, who looked very sharp.

Heskey lumbered around all night, missing two and scoring one, I'll give him his due, he never stopped running.

The third goal was a beaut, one touch stuff from our half ending in a great cross from Heskey and a cracking finish from Kewell.

It was a good sign for Pool, missing the boy-wonder and still bagging 3:D

[MacsRgr8]

Yeah, you guys did alot better (again) than our so-called "super" squad (pensioners).
Came second... gotta play playoffs against the Scotts. Thats going to be very interesting. Our trainer (Dick Advocaat) has been trainer for the Rangers a couple of years....
Berti Vogts knows Dutch football..... he's German: he should know :D

After missing out the last international tournament, we are so anxious to get to Portugal.
Need a new squad though... :rolleyes:

[WinterMute]

Bloody Berger, I knew he'd come back to haunt us, scores in the first 5 mins, has another cleared, he's playing out of his skin.

[MacsRgr8]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Bloody Berger, I knew he'd come back to haunt us, scores in the first 5 mins, has another cleared, he's playing out of his skin.

Its strange how these things happen.....
Good victory for Arsenal though! Yeehaa!
I'll be at Highbury for the game against Fulham. Can't wait :)

[evoluzione]

houllier has to go

plain and simple

[Mark James]

Poor old Inspector Clouseau looked close to tears last night. I can't see him being in charge for the start of next season; he'll probably be 'promoted' to Director of Football, whatever the hell that means.

And Arsene Wenger's Red'n'White Army march on and on...

[WinterMute]

You know, I've been thinking about this thread for a while, but nothing good enough has happened, and now this debacle, I'm soooooo pissed off, I just knew Pompey were going to nick it after Owen passed the ball to Hislop instead of taking a penalty, talk about bottling it...

I'm gutted, we're not going to make the Champions League this year, and on Sundays showing we won't make anything of the UEFA either.

I think winning the UEFA is the only thing that'll save Le Boss now, and even that is by no means certain.

[evoluzione]

i used to be a big fan of Le Boss, but he really has not been the same since his heart op. the scouse odyssey of 2001 was luck, and Gary Mac. we were jammy in all the finals. that is the only reason he hasn't already become the first sacked manager.

but enough is enough, i mean, pompey had their 2nd team on the pitch, 14 first team players were out through injury/suspension or whatever.

it's just so frustrating, last weekend we played some sublime stuff at times, and were unlucky to not score more, but we have to make our own luck, and we have to believe. we have the talent.

we need to sell owen to barca for 50 million. we need cisse, we need to knock a few heads together and actually have a go, not say "we deserved to win, i'm proud of the players" as GH says every tossin' week. shout at them, if they get injured, ignore them. it worked for shanks.

make them proud that they're pulling on that red shirt.

[WinterMute]

I couldn't agree more Evo, Houllier has lost the bite that made him so effective at getting the best out of an ill-fitting bunch of players.

I'm really not surprised mind, that kind of illness would knock the stuffing out of anyone, he looks sacred sometimes, he should quit for his own good, he just hasn't got it anymore, and the squad is in free-fall.

Owen will leave at the end of this season, Cisse may be a good replacement, but others have to go too, Smicer, Heskey, Dudek...

If they all played like Hamann and Gerrard every week we'd be right up with the Arse...

God, I'm depressed.

[iGav]

Originally posted by WinterMute
God, I'm depressed.

you ought to try being a Sky Blues fan mate... :eek: :p :p

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by iGAV
you ought to try being a Sky Blues fan mate... :eek: :p :p

Yeah, but you've had time to get used to the feeling, it looked for a while there that things were getting back to normal for Liverpool....

(sobs)

[evoluzione]

alan hansen...best manager we never had. maybe. i know rushie was coaching the strikers at one point, maybe we could convince him to actually be a striker again. get barnsey back and team up with didi and stevie g.


and what the heck is up with ray houghton??? what a wanker the way he was talking through the game, dude, you played for us, remember? bastard.

iGAV, we may be joining your ranks soon lad...

[evoluzione]

so what on earth is Houllier's excuse going to be this time??????

what a pathetic attempt :rolleyes:

[evoluzione]

ahhh the joys of modern technology...

so i get to watch tonight's UEFA Cup 2nd leg game against Marseille thanks to a few things.

so, we have an English team, playing a French team, in France, in a European competition...being broadcast in the United States by a TV company in Uruguay, and with possibily a Spanish Commentator and who knows where that guy is sitting whilst commentating! but as it's only on Dish Network, I have to have a friend tape it for me, then drive into Manhattan to the pub where there'll be a big crowd waiting to watch it. all that for what will no doubt be an excruciatingly frustrating performance from our beloved boys in red.

we must be mad
(at least it's not being aired live at 6.30am on a sunday! - which of course has happened many a time...)

[dstorey]

less than an hour to go....we will win...with baros scoring...hopefully..he's been a real handful since he's been back. After we win we can dance all the way up the rue de canny beer..most famous street in soth france/marseille

[evoluzione]

Liverpool FC are playing in NYC!!!!!!!

well, kind of, they're playing across the Hudson in New Jersey, at Giants Stadium (home of the NY Giants, makes real sense that)

two games confirmed... AS Roma vs Liverpool in NJ, and Liverpool vs Celtic in Connecticut.

i already have tickets behind the goal!! woop woop!!


let's see if they're coming over with a new manager......


oh i can't wait!!!! gotta try and get them to visit our supporters club! hah! how cool??!!?!?!

can ya tell i'm a tad excited? :D

[WinterMute]

Man U are going to the same tourney, you might get a chance to see them kicking lumps out of each other. :D

I'm off up to Anfield in a couple of weeks for the Charlton game, they're my local premiership side, and there's a bunch of us travelling, although I'm in with the "Pool fans. :D :cool:

What do you think, Champions League next season or not? Will Owen Still be there? Will Houllier survive without it after another losing season?

To be fair, Le Boss has won a lot of silverware for us, but it's the Premiership and the CL that only seem to count in most peoples minds these days.

Bloody Arsenal are a joy to watch this season aren't they?

[evoluzione]

so yeah, ManUre are coming over, as well as Chelsea, AC Milan, and of course AS Roma, Celtic and Liverpool. there's talk of a thrid LFC game in DC but that's just a rumour right now.

as for the fourth CL place, it'll be close for sure, but i think we'll do it, if only 'cause Gerrard is playing out of his skin since becoming captain. GH needs to either leave, or get a kick up the arse (from the whole team and then some). what's with his "we deserved to win, the players can be proud of themselves" bollocks after every draw or loss??? grow some balls man! and as for the 2001 "a scouse odyssey" season, well, we were lucky weren't we? if it wasn't for Gary Mac and the Hand of Henchoz, we wouldn't have got half of what we did.


my predictions, GH out, CL qualification (although if we achieve the latter, the former will more than likely stay). if GH goes, Mikey will stay. as will Stevie G. GH has ruined so many players, look at Riise and Heskey, they were great when they joined.

anyways, i can't talk about this any more... :o

and yeah, the arse look like they're in a different league. sublime.

[Wes]

COME ON YOU [ MAN. UNITED] REDS!

[evoluzione]

COME ON YOU [ MAN. UNITED] REDS!


dude. not funny. go join the yankees thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66463)

[OutThere]

COME ON YOU [ MAN. UNITED] REDS!

Any one for west ham u.? :cool:

...they haven't been doing to terribly lately :)

[MacsRgr8]

What is happening to my beloved Arsenal???

In just 4 days, we lost 2 major trophies! :(

Especially the Champions League is a major blow... Just this once, we could have, could have..... just once.

On Friday we were thinking (just a little bit) of the treble.

Now we have to watch out we don't loose the championship!! Come on!

Why substitute Henry??? Why???

If there ever were a year for us Gunners to take prizes, it was this year... God, I'm unhappy.

PS. Yeah I come from Holland, but I grew up in England (Slough), and have always been an Arsenal supporter.

[evoluzione]

What is happening to my beloved Arsenal???

In just 4 days, we lost 2 major trophies! :(



i feel your pain. Arsenal have a tough run right now, and i hope that Liverpool can take advantage of that, and i really hope Arsenal don't royally spank Liverpool after their losses this week, 'cause that's what usually happens...

did you read Michael Owen's thoughts on the two teams?? he says thathe doesn't think LFC have become worse over the last few years, just that Arsenal have improved beyond recognition, and that they're the benchmark now. i have to agree with him about Arsenal though, they are sublime, and will take a lot of catching. good luck in the League mate.

[britboy]

What is happening to my beloved Arsenal???
In just 4 days, we lost 2 major trophies! :(
Especially the Champions League is a major blow... Just this once, we could have, could have..... just once.
On Friday we were thinking (just a little bit) of the treble.
Now we have to watch out we don't loose the championship!! Come on!
Why substitute Henry??? Why???
If there ever were a year for us Gunners to take prizes, it was this year... God, I'm unhappy.



That's the same pain i'm suffering from. I too support Arsenal, and am absolutly devastated right now. It doesn't help that I've already had 3 calls from 'friends' wanting to rub it in. What's happened to us in the past week? We go out of the FA Cup, Chelsea close to within 4 points, and now we're out of the Champion's League! This is a bad bad week......

Incidentally, Henry was substituted because he'd not done anything the whole game. I know he's capable of producing moments of brilliance, but if he's had 75 minutes and not come up with the goods, well then he's only human and needs to come off.

I hope chelsea now go on to win the Champions League. They are the sole english team there, and it would be great if they could do us proud in europe.
:(

[MacsRgr8]

Thanks man.

To be honest, I don't think we are capable of spanking anyone right now.

Liverpool is for sure on its way up. You'll be there fighting it out with us (and AGAINST Man U.) coming season. You guys had a rough old season this time...

I always like to watch Liverpool, and still do. In the old days you were the only ones capable of thrashing Man Utd, and I remember cheering on the Mersey side Reds whenever you were fighting the Mancunians.

Enemy of the enemy.

At Highbury we still sing about hating the Spurs, but times change ;)

[MacsRgr8]

I hope chelsea now go on to win the Champions League. They are the sole english team there, and it would be great if they could do us proud in europe.
:(

I hope so too.
Chelsea are a good side, and now that Real is out, they have an excellent chance.

Still, if I watch the final featuring Chelsea, I will keep thinking: Arsenal could've been here.... and even win. :(

Like I said before, if ever there were a year......

:( :( :(

[britboy]

I hope so too.
Chelsea are a good side, and now that Real is out, they have an excellent chance.

Still, if I watch the final featuring Chelsea, I will keep thinking: Arsenal could've been here.... and even win. :(

Like I said before, if ever there were a year......

:( :( :(

On the one hand, yes, you could look at it like that. On the other hand though, we were within a few minutes of going out of the competition in the first round group stages, until Cole got that goal for us. Ever since then any progress in the CL was really a bonus.

Still, I hear you there. Last year, we should have won the premiership (as well as the FA Cup). This year, we should have won the Carling Cup (whatever it's name is now), the FA Cup, the premiership (we'll have to wait and see if arsenal slump to defeats there now :eek: ), and we had a great chance in the CL. When are we going to start turning great football into trophies?

I think the start of our problems goes back to the Carling Cup, when Wenger played a second-string team against middlesborough. We lost, obviously. If we'd played our first team, and gone on to win the Cup, that would have given us a boost for the rest of the season, as well as giving us something tangible to show for our early-season form. Having lost that, we've subsequently lost in the other two cups. How different could it have been?

[evoluzione]

When are we going to start turning great football into trophies?

heh, as opposed to LFC in 2001 playing mediocre/lucky football and turning it into 5 trophies! still, we would rather have the League any day. our record is going to be beaten soon if it carries on like this...oh if only they'd rename it back to the First Division we'd be fine! :)

[MacsRgr8]

On the one hand, yes, you could look at it like that. On the other hand though, we were within a few minutes of going out of the competition in the first round group stages, until Cole got that goal for us. Ever since then any progress in the CL was really a bonus.

Still, I hear you there. Last year, we should have won the premiership (as well as the FA Cup). This year, we should have won the Carling Cup (whatever it's name is now), the FA Cup, the premiership (we'll have to wait and see if arsenal slump to defeats there now :eek: ), and we had a great chance in the CL. When are we going to start turning great football into trophies?

I think the start of our problems goes back to the Carling Cup, when Wenger played a second-string team against middlesborough. We lost, obviously. If we'd played our first team, and gone on to win the Cup, that would have given us a boost for the rest of the season, as well as giving us something tangible to show for our early-season form. Having lost that, we've subsequently lost in the other two cups. How different could it have been?

I agree on the Carling (League?) Cup.
But as for our CL results: okay, we were nearly knocked out early on. But as most "winners" some luck comes into play. That is exaclty what I am referring to: After the first 3 matches we only scored one point, and it seemed it would be one of those European years....But somehow we came through! That should give confidence, and hope! Still didn't happen. That's why "whenever there were a year..."

I watched the game over in Holland, and Johan Cruyff was the the man giving the expert analysis on Dutch TV.
Before the game started he said:
"Arsenal are a great side to watch, with some beautiful and excellent football. But, but.... somehow they will never win" ( he meant the CL trophy, not just this game).
And he is seemingly proven right. In his view we are not "clever" enough, or mature enough to be able to win these kind of matches, although he would have liked us to win.

Oh well.
:(

[britboy]

...oh if only they'd rename it back to the First Division we'd be fine! :)

And perhaps if you got rid of donkey and gave Owen a decent strike partner you'd be fine!

;) :D

[WinterMute]

And perhaps if you got rid of donkey and gave Owen a decent strike partner you'd be fine!

;) :D

OY! don't dis the donkey Goooooooner-boy, he might not score much, but one of the reasons Owen scores so much is that Heskey scares the crap out of defences... He always does a ton of good work off the ball.

I though Chelsea were good for the win over the two games, but Monaco beating Real? Please.... :eek:

Chelsea have the best chance of the CL that they'll ever have.

On a funny note, who fancies Millwall against Man Ure in the FA cup then?

[Sabbath]

OY! don't dis the donkey Goooooooner-boy, he might not score much, but one of the reasons Owen scores so much is that Heskey scares the crap out of defences... He always does a ton of good work off the ball.


I always see this thread and mean to comment but am obviously too damn lazy. I hold my hand up as I too am a Liverpool fan.

This comment reminds me of a drunken conversation I had with a friend, I was telling him how Hesky was the best off the ball player in the premiership, he being a Man U :rolleyes: fan replied saying that if Liverpool had more than a few good "on the ball" players they might actually be a good team, I just couldn't stop laughing for some reason, probably because it was sadly true. Hesky does do a lot of good of the ball work but he needs to combine that with some more stuff with the ball, as my Newcastle supporting housemate says Shearer does a lot of good off the ball work oening up defenses but he also sets people up and scores.

I just hope we can beat Arsenal on Friday.

It feels like a post of quotes this....

[britboy]

On a funny note, who fancies Millwall against Man Ure in the FA cup then?

To paraphrase a former england manager: I would love it if they beat ManUre! :eek: That would more than make up for not beating Man U last weekend.

On another note, I see that everyone suddenly thinks that arsenal are there for the beating. Sadly, that probably true :(

[WinterMute]

Christ what a game, I'm used to Highbury being a real battle ground, but when we went 1 up after 5 mins, I thought it was really on, especially when Owen put the second in on half time... :D

Bloody Henri. He's a monster.... That was a real 1st class display, he's just the best striker in the world at the moment, i knew he was going to feature. he just had too much to prove after being so anonymous iin the last two games.

'Pool played well, it wasn't a spanking, if Henri hadn't been on the pitch we'd have won 2-1, maybe 3-1.

I'm hoping that the Arse will give newcastle a real kicking on Sunday, and this won't be such a disaster, if newcastle win, then it's going to be tight for 4th place.

I really don't want to have to go to another last day match needing a win to get into Europe. :eek:

[Sabbath]

Christ what a game, I'm used to Highbury being a real battle ground, but when we went 1 up after 5 mins, I thought it was really on, especially when Owen put the second in on half time... :D

Sorry I must take reponsibility for this, I decided to take a shower during half time and when I got back it was 3-2 :rolleyes: very poor on my front I must say. Lets just pray they play aswell as they did in the second half against Newcastle.

[britboy]

Lets just pray they play aswell as they did in the second half against Newcastle.

Here, here :cool:

What a relief. For a couple of days now I've been worrying about a complete collapse. At least now I can rest easy again!

[MacsRgr8]

Too bad I couldn't watch the game.

I am delighted though!

I'm sorry for the Liverpool fans, but Arsenal needed a great win, and any win over Liverpool is considered great.

Still got our unbeaten record in the Premiere League, and a win against Newcastle should lead us to the one and only prize this season had left for us.

:o

[WinterMute]

OK, Gooners, piss off over to your own bloody thread, this one's reserved for depressed blokes moaning about French managers and underperforming strikers....

Ahhhh.... you do sort of belong here don't you...?

Carry on. :D

[MacsRgr8]

OK, Gooners, piss off over to your own bloody thread, this one's reserved for depressed blokes moaning about French managers and underperforming strikers....

Ahhhh.... you do sort of belong here don't you...?


yeah... we do.

we should be even more depressed than you lot.
Our problem is that our French manager is good, our strikers are not underperforming..... but we got kicked out of 2 bloody cups in just 4 days.
We need to get real lucky sometime.

BTW I hope Millwall gets in the way of a ManUre-save-the-season-prize....
:mad: lucky bastards....

[evoluzione]

********** Gerard. he probably went into the dressing room at halftime and said to the boys, "well done lads, now just defend that lead and we'll be fine", meanwhile, in the Arsenal dressing room..."you bleeding idiots! get out there and play some football!", so they do, and the Reds roll over and die, again.

congrats to the arse though, Henry is superb. I did forget how much I hate the gooners though, they're a dirty bunch at times, especially Lauren, Cole, and Soloman.

good luck to 'em though, wouldn't it be something to see them go all the way without losing eh? and go stuff the toon for us on Sunday :) (even though i like 'castle)

[MacsRgr8]

Oooh yeah! It would be something if we could end this season unbeaten in the Premiere league..... Something Wenger thought "was possible" last year, just before the famous first loss at Blackburn (starting the beginning of the end).

You too have some dirty ones.... Gerard comes to mind instantly. But most teams have one or two of 'em. Sad but true (Keane... Man Upset)

I hope Newcastle gets the full treatment! I got nothing against Newcastle (love Sir Bobby and Shearer), but it'll be good for us, and lend the enemy's enemy a hand ;)

Tnx for wishing us luck! :)

[britboy]

..... and Soloman.

good luck to 'em though, wouldn't it be something to see them go all the way without losing eh? and go stuff the toon for us on Sunday :) (even though i like 'castle)

Who? :confused:

Thanks very much. It will be an absolute pleasure ;)

[evoluzione]

Who? :confused:

Solomon, rather, sorry, spelt it wrong. Sol Campbell.

[evoluzione]

yet another bad bad result for Liverpool...


on a slightly different note, i have to redesign the NY Supporters Club website, and I've come up with this logo...what do you guys think???? (just so you know, the LFC part is taken from the NYC Subway logos)

[Wes]

I was looking at the colors wondering why you had chosen them, but after reading your comment I think it's a very fitting, well-thought out logo.

[evoluzione]

so it's fifteen years to the day when tragedy struck at Hillsborough, during the FA Cup match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forrest.

if you would like to know more, this is a very informative site to visit ...here. (http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.htm)

A lot of people think that soccer in England is all about violent fans, it really isn't. 96 people died that day, and it's been a cover up ever since...this was an accident that could, and should have been avoided. all the families want is the truth, and justice for the 96.



You'll Never Walk Alone


http://www.lfcny.org/footer.jpg

[WinterMute]

I sat watching that on MOTD, I couldn't believe they kept the cameras rolling, it was so obvious that people were dying...

A black day.

[WinterMute]

Murph, you little beauty.....

Any win at Old Trafford is a good win, but to gain a penalty there is unheard of.... ;)

C'mon you Reds!!!!

[evoluzione]

Murph, you little beauty.....

Any win at Old Trafford is a good win, but to gain a penalty there is unheard of.... ;)

C'mon you Reds!!!!






who could've written that ne any better eh??? Murphy, United's nemesis, with a penalty, that was so clear cut, by one of the ugly Neville brothers, at the Theatre of Silence.

superb!

oh how the pub roared when that one went in! the only time this season where we actually more than one or two people singing, and oh were we singing today! :D :D :D

Elle Eye Vee ... Ee Are Pee ... Double Oh Elle .. Liverpool F C

[evoluzione]

wow, i'm so happy i actually used three ugly green smilies!

[WinterMute]

That was the first penalty scored against ManUre at Old Trafford in 10 years, and only the forth awarded...

Four penalties in 10 years, and the bloody Mancs have the nerve to say they don't get a a fair crack from the refs..... :p

[evoluzione]

That was the first penalty scored against ManUre at Old Trafford in 10 years, and only the forth awarded...

Four penalties in 10 years, and the bloody Mancs have the nerve to say they don't get a a fair crack from the refs..... :p


doesn't seem possible does it?? i mean, it's not as if they're a fair team, not committing fouls, i.e. no penalties against...they're dirty bastards, and if i hear one complaint from any of them about it not being a penalty, i'm likely to .... well, i dunno, explode probably haha.


good ol' Danny Boy!! that's the 3rd time he's scored the winning goal against ManUre :)

[evoluzione]

speaking of 10 years.....

this weekend marks the 10th anniversary of the last stand of the Kop, as it were. gone are the days when the ball was sucked into the back of the net, and the away keeper feared defending that goal.

we need to stuff middlesborough in the morning....i'll be cheering the lads on from the pub, with my breakfast pints of the black stuff.



alles les rouges!

[WinterMute]

Man City really did us a favour today, I feel it's almost in our own hands now (yeah, I know Newcastle have a game in hand, but it's against US at Anfield....).

We have to win everything, a draw will cost Le Boss his job, and the team some of their best players.

No pressure then.....

[junior]

Yeah, great result today. Well done Man City! Let's hope Newcastle wins the UEFA cup (because I like Bobby), but because of it loses all their strength to win the next couple of games!
I still don't like Murphy (gives the ball away way too much) but what a brilliant penalty taker! I suppose he deserves to play in the next game for that goal alone.

[evoluzione]

City defo did us grand...makes things a little less nerve-wracking now.


and as for murphy, well, he's one of the few i'd keep this summer, along with the other england boys, gerrard (of course), owen (needs a kick up the ass that a new manager will provide), and carragher (gives 110% every game). as for heskey, he may come good with a new boss, he has the potential, when houllier had a go at him a while back he was awesome immediately after.

and yeah, three winning goals against utd?? danny boy deserves his place. but then if we cheer too much for the guy hou'll get rid of him, like jari, and otsemobor etc etc. i'm gonna stop before i type waayyyyyy too much on this subject!


just over 14 hours to go!!!!

[Sabbath]

speaking of 10 years.....

this weekend marks the 10th anniversary of the last stand of the Kop, as it were. gone are the days when the ball was sucked into the back of the net, and the away keeper feared defending that goal.

we need to stuff middlesborough in the morning....i'll be cheering the lads on from the pub, with my breakfast pints of the black stuff.



alles les rouges!

Wow that makes me feel old! I can remember being there that day, and things haven't seemed to really change since. We still need a new boss dammit.

[WinterMute]

Well, Murph can carry on taking penalties like that as long as he likes. Good goal by Heskey to, the donkey kicks sometimes eh?

I thought the last 30 mins were dreadful, I know they had to win, but it was dire grinding stuff.

Lets get Birmingham out if the way and then bring on Newcastle, lets hope it lives up to the 4-3 monsters of yesteryear... :D

[MacsRgr8]

....and then bring on Newcastle, lets hope it lives up to the 4-3 monsters of yesteryear... :D

Ooohh yeah.... I remember those beauties.
I believe Liverpool should be able to do it. Its great that at the end of a season there still are a couple of battles going on! Good luck to ya! Tough luck on Leeds though....

I wonder, will super Arsenal end the season unbeaten??? Just 3 more to go!

[evoluzione]

Well, Murph can carry on taking penalties like that as long as he likes. Good goal by Heskey to, the donkey kicks sometimes eh?

I thought the last 30 mins were dreadful, I know they had to win, but it was dire grinding stuff.

Lets get Birmingham out if the way and then bring on Newcastle, lets hope it lives up to the 4-3 monsters of yesteryear... :D


yeah i didn't hardly watch the last half hour, was chatting and just glancing up at the screen when the volume rose a bit....first half was awesome, if we play like that every game, i kinda don't care what the result is...as long as we have the heart.

[evoluzione]

great performance today, same goalscorers as "Liverpool 5 - Germany 1"

be interesting to watch the toon army tomorrow, the can get by with a win and a draw before meeting us next Saturday, but 6 games in 3 days, i dunno.

[WinterMute]

I think that's probably 3 games in 6 days... ;) :D

I don't think they can do it, beating Brum has left us in a very strong position, Newcastle have to win both games midweek to be level but behind on goal difference going into the Anfield game, either way they are going to have to beat us to take 4th.

I don't like the "we only need a draw" option, I can see 0-0 with 5 mins to go and Shearer rising in the area to meet a well weighted corner..... :eek:

Alternativley, Stevie cracks one in on the half-hour from 30 yards, Kewell finds the top corner from an impossible angle just on the break and Owen bags a brace in the second half. We stay 4th and win the CL next year... :D :cool:

[evoluzione]

I think that's probably 3 games in 6 days... ;) :D



oh yeah, oops. :)


Newcastle only need a win and a draw before they meet us, that's easily possible. they need a win against us regardless, unless they stick a bundle of goals away in their two games in hand, which again, they could do.

but yeah, i don't like the "we need a draw" either....

let's see what they do today...

[WinterMute]

Shearer misses late penalty and Wolves give them a bit of a hard time.

I'm feeling better about this now, having to win away at Southampton is bad enough, but they haven't won at Anfield in years.....

It's most definitely in our own hands now, if we ***** this up, Houllier and Owen are history for sure.

[evoluzione]

I cannot believe Shearer missed that penalty. During the Liverpool game we were talking about panelty takers, and how he was probably one of, if not, the best.


so it looks like that Thai Prime Minister is going to buy a big stake in our club :( if he was a fan, then it wouldn't be so bad, but this is a quote from one of his staff ...

"I'm not sure if the prime minister is really a Liverpool fan," he added. "He says he is but when Manchester United were here, he said he supported them."

not good.

[WinterMute]

Back in the Champions league!!!

Newcastle only manage a 3-3 draw at Southampton, handing us the 4th spot... :D :D :D

OK, we still have to qualify, but the last game won't be a repeat of the Chelsea game last season.

...and it looks like we might have some cash to play with over the summer too. :D

[evoluzione]

Back in the Champions league!!!

Newcastle only manage a 3-3 draw at Southampton, handing us the 4th spot... :D :D :D

OK, we still have to qualify, but the last game won't be a repeat of the Chelsea game last season.

...and it looks like we might have some cash to play with over the summer too. :D


and about bloody time too...let's hope we can stay in it and not get knocked into the UEFA cup. not sure i like this buying shares business....i sincerely hope that Thaksin President guy isn't successful. i wouldn't mind so much, but he tried to buy Fulham first! and he's a Manc fan, really.


bit of a shame that we couldn't end Newcastle's hopes, would've been a cracker, still could be i'm sure.

well, Eur'04 next, then i'll be in one of the best seats for the Roma and Celtic games july/august time :D hah! can't wait, maybe we'll see a new manager by then...we can dream can't we?

[evoluzione]

so the season ended but three days ago, and already Heskey is off to Birmingham City, and we will soon have a big Thai investment.

i hope it does not go through, the guy is a c***. as for the board not liking Morgan's proposal, well, fair enough, but "it didn't reflect the true value of the club" WHAT??? and the Thai Government does??? they don't give a flying ******* what club they buy into, and that is no the sort of thing i want happening to my club! grrr, i am not freakin' happy :mad:

[evoluzione]

HOLY ****!!!!!!

Houllier has been fired! the first sacking of a manager in Liverpool's history!

soccernet story here (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=5901)

i never thought i'd see the day...

[junior]

HOLY ****!!!!!!

Houllier has been fired! the first sacking of a manager in Liverpool's history!

soccernet story here (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=5901)

i never thought i'd see the day...


Not quite. :) First sacking in 50 odd years. Although neither the club nor Houllier have used that word. They seem to describe this as being mutual, though we all know it wasn't.
Houllier definitely took us forward compared to the state we were in 6 years ago. Let's hope the new guy,whoever it is (I hope it ain't Curbishly!) works well with the core of the team that Houllier laid, gets rid of the crap ones and brings in some great players to blend in and win us the title!
I want Big Sam!

[WinterMute]

I'm not sure how I feel about this, I always thought Le Boss was good for Liverpool, but I really thought the fight went out of him after the heart scare.

Liverpool are in good shape now, sure a few players could go and not be missed (Smicers days are surely numbered) and there are some grey areas in the squad, but overall the team needs direction and inspiration.

Any team that numbers Stevie Gerrard and Micheal Owen in it's midst isn't short of talent, and Stevie G's performance in the latter part of the season was unbelievable.

Who's next then? I don't think it will be the obvious choices, O'neal won't leave Celtic, much as i think he's probably the best candidate...

I have a feeling there is more to this Thai deal than meets the eye, and I think Le Bosses dismissal is tied into that.

In the end Liverpool FC deserve to be playing and winning in the competitions they used to excel in, particularly the Champions League.

As Gerrard Houllier himself said, the club is mor eimportant than a single man.

Cheers GH, it was a blast. :D :( :D :(