New Parallels Beta [Archive]

plinden

Dec 1, 2006, 01:24 PM

Parallels has released a new beta - http://forum.parallels.com/thread5997.html

This includes among other things:
Drag and Drop files and folders between Windows and Mac.
Read/Write BootCamp partition.
Boot from BootCamp partition. (XP only)
Coherency. Shows Windows applications as if they were Mac ones.

Unfortunately we Linux users are still left out in the cold - still no Parallels Tools for Linux.

And no USB2 support (although you do get full USB/firewire access to external drives if you mount /Volumes as a shared folder)

yellow

Dec 1, 2006, 01:28 PM

I must say.. I'm always impressed with the Parallels team. They really do work hard at making their (Mac) product better.

Sorry about that lack of Linux support. :(

technocoy

Dec 1, 2006, 02:08 PM

I was all excited about it and finally bought it and the bootcamp thing isn't working on mine.. I'm gonna make sure I'm on the latest version of bootcamp and try again.

Of course it IS a beta, but it was dissapointing since I finally laid down cash for it. lol

Phatpat

Dec 1, 2006, 02:23 PM

Boot camp integration sounds nice; now I can use parallels for quick things that don't require all the performance, and reboot when I do need it. Perfect.

DavidLeblond

Dec 1, 2006, 02:28 PM

It would be nice to only have one copy of XP on my mac. Right now I have one for games (although I barely ever boot into it) and I have Parallels for Windows development that I use almost daily. For development purposes it is perfect. One button and I have Visual Studio... and then with another button I'm back in the safe comfort of Mac OSX.

xli_ne

Dec 1, 2006, 02:31 PM

Was or is there bluetooth support yet?

Directx support?

fishkorp

Dec 1, 2006, 03:04 PM

just an FYI, the bootcamp integration only works for Win XP (i.e. not Vista) and on an NTFS partition. if you XP partition is FAT32 this won't work. Parallels are working on the problem.

can't wait to get home and try the coherent feature, sounds awesome.

robbieduncan

Dec 1, 2006, 03:34 PM

Downloading it now...

robbieduncan

Dec 1, 2006, 04:08 PM

Downloaded, installed, updated Parallels Tools and restarted Windows.

On the upside: it works!

On the downside: Coherence is strange (at least with Win2k). Whenever you resize/move the Window you see the bit of the Windows desktop behind until the move/resize event finishes then the Windows window snaps into place. Weird.

Edit: I've found out how to fix the above: I did not have "Show Window contents whilst dragging" turned on in Display preferences. Now it works as expected. But I've found a new problem: Expose still treats Parallels as though it had one huge window.

swiftaw

Dec 1, 2006, 04:14 PM

But I've found a new problem: Expose still treats Parallels as though it had one huge window.

It's not really a problem per se, more a consequence of the implementation. What they have done is made the Windows desktop transparent, thus it is really still there, just invisible.

robbieduncan

Dec 1, 2006, 04:17 PM

It's not really a problem per se, more a consequence of the implementation. What they have done is made the Windows desktop transparent, thus it is really still there, just invisible.

Yep. But it'd be nice if they made each Window window have an underlying Mac OSX Window that it draws into so as Expose would work. This would also fix the very slight visibility of the Windows desktop you see when you drag stuff around with Coherence on.

Still it's a step forward...

swiftaw

Dec 1, 2006, 04:19 PM

Yep. But it'd be nice if they made each Window window have an underlying Mac OSX Window that it draws into so as Expose would work. This would also fix the very slight visibility of the Windows desktop you see when you drag stuff around with Coherence on.

Still it's a step forward...

Absolutely, quite a but of progress. Plus, i think showing Win XP under Parallels under OS X has a certain wow factor. Certainly works on my PC loving friends :)

robbieduncan

Dec 1, 2006, 04:22 PM

Absolutely, quite a but of progress. Plus, i think showing Win XP under Parallels under OS X has a certain wow factor. Certainly works on my PC loving friends :)

I used it to run 2 weeks of demos of an Application we will be delivering to Australia earlier this year. It worked seamlessly which was fantastic. It's a really great piece of software.

cb31

Dec 1, 2006, 05:04 PM

plinden

Dec 1, 2006, 05:13 PM

robbieduncan

Dec 1, 2006, 06:41 PM

I just bought Parallels from the UK Apple store today, it should arrive next week some time. Does anyone know if I will be getting the latest version and if not can I upgrade it for free?

Does my copy include updates for a certain period as it is still beta software?

The copy being shipped to you is not beta. Parallels went production some time ago.

The updates discussed here are in the latest beta copy of a free update to the production software. Your copy will not have them as these are only in a beta state. If you want to risk using them you can download the beta update and use it. If you'd rather wait till these features are fully tested then you can do that too.

Guy Incognito

Dec 1, 2006, 08:08 PM

dongmin

Dec 1, 2006, 08:53 PM

Yep. But it'd be nice if they made each Window window have an underlying Mac OSX Window that it draws into so as Expose would work. This would also fix the very slight visibility of the Windows desktop you see when you drag stuff around with Coherence on.

Still it's a step forward...Has anyone tried Parallels with LEOPARD? Apple is really pushing Parallels as THE virtualization solution for Macs. It'd be nice if they (Apple + Parallels team) integrated Parallel's virtual desktops with SPACES.

NATO

Dec 2, 2006, 12:37 AM

I too am very impressed with the Parallels team - I never expected them to be quite so regular with updates etc, especially ones with such new and useful features. I haven't tried coherence yet, but the ability to use a boot camp partition is fantastic and works great - I use Parallels when I'm working on 'normal' stuff and when I fancy a bit of gaming, I reboot into the same partition but with full 3D support.

Biggest update for me so far, but keep it coming!

(Regarding the Activation issues mentioned by Guy Incognito, I can't comment on these I'm afraid as I'm using a MSDN Volume Licence which doesn't require activation)

Phatpat

Dec 2, 2006, 12:56 AM

Any word on how soon an update for FAT32 boot camp will come? I need the ability to easily transfer files between OS X and Windows, and FAT32 does a good job of that.

elbirth

Dec 2, 2006, 01:13 AM

This is really a big step in the right direction. I've got it running just fine on my MacBook Pro, other than the slight sluggishness from time to time with only having 1GB of RAM installed at the moment.

Here's a screenshot I took to reference it in a thread on another forum:

http://heycubed.net/stuff/parallelscoherence.jpg

My OS X dock is on another monitor, but the dual-os effect is really freaky!

Aniej

Dec 2, 2006, 01:44 AM

What are the black thing and the long silver thing in the menu bar on the far left?

http://heycubed.net/stuff/parallelscoherence.jpg

My OS X dock is on another monitor, but the dual-os effect is really freaky!

Westside guy

Dec 2, 2006, 02:04 AM

One of the most potentially useful features of this new beta release--the ability to use a copy of Windows XP installed via Boot Camp from Parallels in OS X--doesn't work correctly. Several users, including me, are reporting that booting the OS via Parallels appears to XP as a change in hardware configuration, requiring reactivation with Microsoft. Be careful if you try to use this beta release with an existing Boot Camp installation.

Well, of course this is the case - it makes perfect sense, and likely IS working correctly. You see the same thing with VMware's similar feature on a dual-boot Linux/Windows box.

When you use Parallels to run Windows inside of OS X, some of the hardware is virtualized. When you use Boot Camp to run Windows natively, all of the hardware is what's actually on your machine. So what you have to do is use two different hardware profiles inside of Windows - one for your "virtualized" hardware set (running under OS X) and one for your "native" hardware set. Just be sure you name them in a way that makes it easy to distinguish at Windows boot time.

P.S. There are three different threads (at least) all talking about this. The mods should merge them perhaps? :D

elbirth

Dec 2, 2006, 02:17 AM

What are the black thing and the long silver thing in the menu bar on the far left?

The black gear-shaped icon is the Yahoo Widget engine, which gives me the weather on my desktop you see at the very bottom left, among other things. The long bars beside Adium's icon is for iPulse, a program that monitors your network bandwidth, cpu, ram, hard drive space, page ins/outs, etc. The colorful circle in the bottom left of the screen is the same thing but floats on the desktop and is a little easier to read once you get used to the style of it.

GraceMolloy

Dec 2, 2006, 01:06 PM

Guy Incognito

Dec 2, 2006, 03:52 PM

When you use Parallels to run Windows inside of OS X, some of the hardware is virtualized. When you use Boot Camp to run Windows natively, all of the hardware is what's actually on your machine. So what you have to do is use two different hardware profiles inside of Windows - one for your "virtualized" hardware set (running under OS X) and one for your "native" hardware set. Just be sure you name them in a way that makes it easy to distinguish at Windows boot time.

Thanks for the clarification. Indeed, the setup you describe is precisely how the Parallels setup is supposed to work. My experience (and that of others on the Parallels forums) is that is does not. I'd be interested to hear if anyone using a version of XP that requires activation is not having these problems.

elbirth

Dec 2, 2006, 10:51 PM

Be careful with this one. I ended up re-installing my bootcamp (was faster than "fixing" whatever this did to it)

Wait for the bugs to get fixed. GREAT concept though. Can't wait for it to work right.

What happened that required you to have to fix your Windows install? I've been running XP under the new parallels off of my Boot Camp partition for nearly a day now mostly in Coherence mode and using the shared folder to copy files between OSX and XP and everything is working flawlessly so far.

Westside guy

Dec 2, 2006, 11:24 PM

Thanks for the clarification. Indeed, the setup you describe is precisely how the Parallels setup is supposed to work. My experience (and that of others on the Parallels forums) is that is does not. I'd be interested to hear if anyone using a version of XP that requires activation is not having these problems.

Ah... now I see what you're saying. I interpreted your post as complaining about the detected hardware change itself, not the fact that it tripped the reactivation sequence. And it makes sense that I wouldn't have seen this sort of issue (when I did this with VMware on a Windows/Linux dual-boot box), since I'm fortunate enough to have access to a corporate licensed version of XP.

But I'm not sure what (if anything) Parallels can do about that.

MacFreak4711

Dec 3, 2006, 07:32 AM

Guys, sadly in german but the pic is big;)

http://virtuetricity.blogspot.com/

best regards
macfreak

Jame

Dec 3, 2006, 07:58 AM

I love the new 3036 on the surface. Looks better and has a lot of really nice features, BUT remember it is a BETA... I have been running 170 for a while now and it was working fine, very stable. I installed the 3036 BETA and right off i started having trouble... When ever i went into my email program which is Incredimail, i would type 5 to 10 words and all of a sudden i find myself back at the Mac desktop....no parallels... it does it everytime.

It even did it a few times when not in the email program... a few times it would restart parallels, but mostly it would just go to mac desktop. So, if you want to install a BETA, then go for it, but figure on probably having to uninstall and loosing everything, other wise stay with a stable 170 till they get the kinks worked out. Once they do, it looks like it will be a good one.

penter

Dec 3, 2006, 11:09 AM

And no USB2 support (although you do get full USB/firewire access to external drives if you mount /Volumes as a shared folder)

how do you mout an exernal drive as a shared folder?? i've been trying to access my external drive from parallels and i havent been able to.:confused:

also, how do i access a disk that i have inserted into the drive through parallels?:confused:

mac-convert

Dec 3, 2006, 12:12 PM

I love the new 3036 on the surface. Looks better and has a lot of really nice features, BUT remember it is a BETA... I have been running 170 for a while now and it was working fine, very stable. I installed the 3036 BETA and right off i started having trouble... When ever i went into my email program which is Incredimail, i would type 5 to 10 words and all of a sudden i find myself back at the Mac desktop....no parallels... it does it everytime.

I had pretty much the same problems. I tried to build a Win2K and Office2K system (no registration required with my CD's) and it would get part way through various operations and bam, I'd be back in Mac land. After working with different methods of installing for two days, I finally gave up and went back to build 1970 and everything became stable again.

There are some real nice features in this next release, but I am thinking it was almost a total re-write with all the problems in this that shouldn't be there. I'll take the upgrade once it settles down a bit.

balamw

Dec 3, 2006, 12:25 PM

how do you mout an exernal drive as a shared folder?? i've been trying to access my external drive from parallels and i havent been able to.:confused:

also, how do i access a disk that i have inserted into the drive through parallels?:confused:
I think what was meant is if you use Parallels tools to make /Volumes a shared folder (read Parallels help on shared folders). You'll get full access to the drives, at least as much as OS X will (so NTFS would still be read only.)

For optical drives, make sure that the disc is not mounted in OS X and Parallels will usually be able to pick it up.

B

Westside guy

Dec 3, 2006, 12:58 PM

Beta build 3036 has been stable for me - only light use so far though. The one "issue" I've had is the pause button on the right isn't mapped to "Suspend", like it was in the version installed off the CD (which was build 1970 I think). The pause button now literally pauses the virtual machine - not sure why that would be particularly useful.

MacRumorUser

Dec 3, 2006, 01:11 PM

Been very stable for me and i'm very impressed. I just wish they sort out linux to be as flexible as they have made xp to be.

plinden

Dec 3, 2006, 01:22 PM

I think what was meant is if you use Parallels tools to make /Volumes a shared folder (read Parallels help on shared folders). You'll get full access to the drives, at least as much as OS X will (so NTFS would still be read only.)

For optical drives, make sure that the disc is not mounted in OS X and Parallels will usually be able to pick it up.

B
Remember, during shared folders set up, you can't browse to /Volumes since it's a hidden OS X folder, and the setup is done in OS X. But you can enter it manually. And yes, NTFS external drives are read-only.

Bill Gates

Dec 3, 2006, 04:57 PM

I installed the new beta the other night using my trial key for Parallels. While the feature list is nice, it certainly is not ready for primetime, or even as a beta in my opinion. It's very glitchy and unstable at this point. If I had to guess I'd say they released it to try and prevent people from going over VMWare's Fusion by showing them what's in the works.

GFLPraxis

Dec 3, 2006, 06:15 PM

I'll buy Parallels the moment Convergence + FAT32 Boot Camp work :)

lieb39

Dec 3, 2006, 10:07 PM

I'm actually going to buy Parallels for this beta.. I'm LOVING the co-thingy.. I can finally use MSN Messenger for windows.. and proper outlook! That's all I need! I'm not touching my desktop anymore.. this is MUCH better! :)

Cheers!

elbirth

Dec 3, 2006, 11:01 PM

I'll buy Parallels the moment Convergence + FAT32 Boot Camp work :)

Just curious, but why use FAT32?
I know OS X can't write to NTFS, but you can setup a shared folder between OS X and Windows through Parallels on your OS X partition and you can read/write to that from both OSes just fine.

wmmk

Dec 4, 2006, 06:15 PM

Of course it IS a beta, but it was dissapointing since I finally laid down cash for it. lol

I think this is a free upgrade for current users.

mac-convert

Dec 4, 2006, 10:34 PM

I believe it's a free beta to anyone who wants to test it out. If it goes to the next bump, say 3.0, then there will be an upgrade fee.

SiliconAddict

Dec 5, 2006, 07:17 AM

While impressive I think I'm going to wait until I can do a side by side comparison with VMWare. Part of me thinks that VMWare is waiting to see what Apple does with virtulization in Leopard. Or more likely they already know about this but havea NDA tied around their neck. Those top secret features anyone?
I've talked with several people, who are kinda in the know, that believe that Apple may be tying something, I think its called xen or something, into an extension for Leopard that speeds up virtualization big time. If this is the case I'd expect both VMWare and Parallels to take advantage of it.

MacRumorUser

Dec 5, 2006, 10:39 AM

While impressive I think I'm going to wait until I can do a side by side comparison with VMWare. Part of me thinks that VMWare is waiting to see what Apple does with virtulization in Leopard

virtualization was dropped from leopard ages ago. It was about the same time parallels came out and so people just assumed apple had bowed our the way to parallels to cover virtualization for them, (hence the using windows on mac adverts stating theu required parallels)..

There has been no mention of virtualization in leopard in a long time, I think you can take that silence as pretty much the nail in the coffin for it to be built into 10.5

Flowbee

Dec 5, 2006, 10:55 AM

There has been no mention of virtualization in leopard in a long time, I think you can take that silence as pretty much the nail in the coffin for it to be built into 10.5

...Or as one of the super-secret Leoprd features that Steve said would be announced later.

SiliconAddict

Dec 5, 2006, 01:00 PM

virtualization was dropped from leopard ages ago. It was about the same time parallels came out and so people just assumed apple had bowed our the way to parallels to cover virtualization for them, (hence the using windows on mac adverts stating theu required parallels)..

There has been no mention of virtualization in leopard in a long time, I think you can take that silence as pretty much the nail in the coffin for it to be built into 10.5

I wouldn't say that. Virtualization is definitely something that could be dropped into place in the OS. Apple may simply not have released it in the developer builds since there really only are two major virtualization companies out there right now. Parallels and VMWare may may both have those module right now and are under tight NDA's.

It very well could be the top secret feature jobs was talking about. Personally I don't think apple themselves are going to provide the virt software. I think they would provide deep ties to OS X through kernel extensions to allow very fast support. (Read Coherency runs super smooth.) Again its an open source tool called XEN (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/srg/netos/xen/)

penter

Dec 5, 2006, 07:52 PM

I think what was meant is if you use Parallels tools to make /Volumes a shared folder (read Parallels help on shared folders). You'll get full access to the drives, at least as much as OS X will (so NTFS would still be read only.)

For optical drives, make sure that the disc is not mounted in OS X and Parallels will usually be able to pick it up.

B

hey, thnx. i understand it clearly now. now, what you said about the optical drives.... that was the big problem i was grappling with. how can I "unmount" the disk without physically removing it from the drive??

balamw

Dec 5, 2006, 08:05 PM

how can I "unmount" the disk without physically removing it from the drive??
Unmounting a drive without ejecting is an option in Disk Utility.

Plus, if you assign the hardware to Parallels before inserting a disc it'll go to Parallels first.

B

Flyinace2000

Dec 6, 2006, 09:41 AM

Anyone having issues with Compressor? I run compressor, the machine restarts. But when it gets past the "Preparing to compact disks" the machine grays out like it is paused. The first time i did it Parallels crashed out to the OSX desktop after about 10 minutes. I am on try #2 and its been about 15 minutes. How long should the machine be in "pause" mode for a compact?

thebeephaha

Dec 6, 2006, 01:14 PM

I have an issue, I installed the Parallels-Tools-Bcp-1.0.3-Win.exe and everything, but I get this when I try to boot into Windows:

http://www.joshuahenryproductions.com/stuff/3036error.jpg

I have XP Pro on NTFS.

Scottyk9

Dec 6, 2006, 01:21 PM

I have an issue, I installed the Parallels-Tools-Bcp-1.0.3-Win.exe and everything, but I get this when I try to boot into Windows:

I have XP Pro on NTFS.

On bootup, did you:
-select Parallels configuration?
- hardware profile: parallels configuration?

thebeephaha

Dec 6, 2006, 01:25 PM

On bootup, did you:
-select Parallels configuration?
- hardware profile: parallels configuration?

I never get the chance thats the very first thing that shows up when I run the VM.

Scottyk9

Dec 6, 2006, 01:27 PM

I never get the chance thats the very first thing that shows up when I run the VM.

I would try re-installing the bootcamp parallels tools again. After this was installed, on bootup I was able to select parallels configuration. If you don't select this, you get the error message that you posted.

carman63

Dec 7, 2006, 06:44 AM

I tried the beta, upgrading over my existing version. After the upgrade, I couldn't get my Vista (RC1) to load. I'd get the status bar, then it would freeze and my memory/CPU utilization went through the roof. I could still control Parallels, and other items, but Vista wouldn't load.

I downgraded from the beta to my original version (1970 I think) and Vista loads normally. I did have a few scares, where the Vista image 'disappeared' and I had to use Spotlight to find it. But all if okay for now.

Perhaps when my 'real' copy of Vista appears, I can try again with a clean install of both Vista and the beta of Parallels. For now, I'll stay where I am :D

lieb39

Dec 7, 2006, 05:16 PM

Thomas Harte

Dec 7, 2006, 06:44 PM

Just simply due to this Parallel beta, I brought the software today (One day after my trial runs out [Hint: it doesn't run out as long as you don't restart / shutdown the Virtual machine or the host machine - god it was slow.. about 5 days uptime straight..])

Cheers!

Before I actually paid for it, I also found setting my Mac's clock back to be an effective dodge to the timeout... they really should fix that.

MacRumorUser

Dec 7, 2006, 07:00 PM

I bought it when it was $39 ;)

elbirth

Dec 7, 2006, 10:38 PM

I bought it when it was $39 ;)

Some places offer Parallels for free after rebate when you're buying a new machine... so this would be perfect for anyone upgrading machines.

I've only seen it with the Mac Pro currently, though... but I'll be buying an 8-core when those ever come out anyway, so I'm considering that myself.

failsafe1

Dec 8, 2006, 01:14 PM

elbirth

Dec 8, 2006, 06:22 PM

Purchased Parallels a couple of days ago and then installed the beta instead to keep XP to a minimum. Works well I think. Just loaded it last night. I have a problem? When I boot into boot camp and need to choose between the Parallels Windows XP config or stand alone XP I don't have use of my keyboard on my Macbook Pro 2.33. Any ideas on getting the keyboard back? Am I even supposed to have built in keyboard support?

The keyboard should work fine, the keyboard on my MBP does.
Did you install the drivers on the CD that you burned when installing Boot Camp? That should make pretty much everything work under Windows

failsafe1

Dec 8, 2006, 06:37 PM

slicedbread

Dec 9, 2006, 11:44 AM

The keyboard works when I am in Parallels. My problem is when I choose Windows XP from the option key and have to choose between Parallels and WIndows Xp I get no keyboard arrows. I have loaded all the drivers from the boot camp Mac driver CD.

I had this problem in my 2.33 c2d MBP too.

boot up XP in parallels, and change the boot.ini timeout to 10 rather than the -1 that it is. this is in system properties\advanced tab\startup and recovery settings.

also change the timeout for the profiles selector to 10. this is under system properties\hardware tab\hardware profiles.

make sure for both that your default profile/choice is the default (bootcamp) config. when it loads into bootcamp u will get full functionality. whenever you boot into parallels, make sure u select the parallels option both times.

failsafe1

Dec 9, 2006, 11:52 AM

I had this problem in my 2.33 c2d MBP too.

boot up XP in parallels, and change the boot.ini timeout to 10 rather than the -1 that it is. this is in system properties\advanced tab\startup and recovery settings.

also change the timeout for the profiles selector to 10. this is under system properties\hardware tab\hardware profiles.

make sure for both that your default profile/choice is the default (bootcamp) config. when it loads into bootcamp u will get full functionality. whenever you boot into parallels, make sure u select the parallels option both times.

That is awesome. I will try this and post the info on the parallels forum where folks are encountering the same problem. Thanks.

slicedbread

Dec 9, 2006, 12:06 PM

sigh i wish that forum was more organised.

i had this problem as soon as the beta was released. I found the answer on their forums and also answered someone else as well with the solution. and yet people still keep asking the same question there...

failsafe1

Dec 9, 2006, 02:27 PM

Interesting. I also searched with no success for the answer to my trouble in that forum. So I posted my question here and there. Did you find your solution was the same as the one I mentioned in my reply from the Parallels forum? You would think a bug like this would be easier to identify and fix.

penter

Dec 9, 2006, 11:18 PM

Unmounting a drive without ejecting is an option in Disk Utility.

Plus, if you assign the hardware to Parallels before inserting a disc it'll go to Parallels first.

B

thank you again, kind fellow macrumors member. :)

whyrichard

Dec 11, 2006, 12:57 AM

what is the down side to reinstalling my windows xp bootcamp parition to ntfs (or whatever that file system is called) so that i can run parallells off my bootcamp partition?

what is the downside to my bootcamp being ntfs?

thanks,

r.

balamw

Dec 11, 2006, 01:28 AM

what is the downside to my bootcamp being ntfs?
You can't write directly to the bootcamp partition from OS X, unless you run Parallels and drag & drop through it.

B

whyrichard

Dec 11, 2006, 01:35 AM

You can't write directly to the bootcamp partition from OS X, unless you run Parallels and drag & drop through it.

B

is there a macdrive like program, that will let mac osx see windows ntfs partitions?

r.

macman2790

Dec 11, 2006, 01:43 AM

the parallels beta really sucked for me since i was trying to use ubuntu linux. I set up everything right and it just gave me some kind of error message(which i forgot) before i could even install it.

Bern

Dec 11, 2006, 02:24 AM

Great concept and I really hope they get it working, but right now for me it's not worth using until they get that Bootcamp issue fixed. Everytime you use Parallels then go into Bootcamp (or vice versa) you have to reactivate XP as you already know.

balamw

Dec 11, 2006, 02:47 AM

is there a macdrive like program, that will let mac osx see windows ntfs partitions?
You can read out of the box, right now Parallels seems to be the only way to write.

B

whyrichard

Dec 11, 2006, 04:23 AM

and can ntfs windows xp read and write to/from the mac osx partition?

r.

Transeau

Dec 11, 2006, 06:31 PM

I had this problem in my 2.33 c2d MBP too.

boot up XP in parallels, and change the boot.ini timeout to 10 rather than the -1 that it is. this is in system properties\advanced tab\startup and recovery settings.

also change the timeout for the profiles selector to 10. this is under system properties\hardware tab\hardware profiles.

make sure for both that your default profile/choice is the default (bootcamp) config. when it loads into bootcamp u will get full functionality. whenever you boot into parallels, make sure u select the parallels option both times.

This only works if the Paralles Tools for Bootcamp work. :(
It looks like a one-shot deal. The installer crashed and now it looks like I have to reinstall completely to try again.

It won't let me uninstall it, or reinstall it.
It didn't create a new profile or anything. Just didn't work.

Transeau

Dec 12, 2006, 01:31 AM

Nope - 2 to 2 failed.
The Bootcamp software doesn't appear to work with an OEM version of XP... At least not a VLK.

ilkevinli

Dec 12, 2006, 12:37 PM

Yes it does. What you have to do is make a copy of the driver.cab file and name the copy to sp2.cab and put it in the same folder as the driver.cab file. Then install the Parallel tools.

Nope - 2 to 2 failed.
The Bootcamp software doesn't appear to work with an OEM version of XP... At least not a VLK.

Nicolasdec

Dec 13, 2006, 06:37 AM

One thing i think they need to improve is the bootcamp support of FAT32 my XP partition is FAT32 and on parallels it only allows NTFS. but its still a BETA. hopefully they will update that to allow both formats.

islandman

Dec 13, 2006, 07:48 AM

Wow, this is killer! I can't wait for them to be able to support Vista (when booting from BootCamp and Parallels from the same partition).

Transeau

Dec 14, 2006, 02:29 AM

Yes it does. What you have to do is make a copy of the driver.cab file and name the copy to sp2.cab and put it in the same folder as the driver.cab file. Then install the Parallel tools.

Nope... Same thing... "error 1." bs.
They have a long way to go on this update.

whyrichard

Dec 14, 2006, 10:34 PM

so let me get this straight...

bootcamp windows ntfs can read and write from osx, but osx can't read and write to windows ntfs????

-yes? right?

r.

elbirth

Dec 14, 2006, 10:46 PM

so let me get this straight...

bootcamp windows ntfs can read and write from osx, but osx can't read and write to windows ntfs????

-yes? right?

r.

Not quite. There's a program for Windows called MacDrive that lets Windows read/write to/from a Mac partition, but it can't do so natively without help.

The way the copying of files between OSes works in Parallels is via a Samba share on the Mac partition.

whyrichard

Dec 15, 2006, 02:10 PM

Not quite. There's a program for Windows called MacDrive that lets Windows read/write to/from a Mac partition, but it can't do so natively without help.

The way the copying of files between OSes works in Parallels is via a Samba share on the Mac partition.

please explain "samba share"...!

i now have parallels set up just fine to boot from the bootcamp partition...

-HOWEVER, i have lost the ability of my bootcamp windows machine to read/write from my mac partition!!!!!! AM I MISSING SOMETHING! i used to use macdrive to do this, but it seems to conflict with parallels?

this is very important for me to do....

please assist anyone,

thanks,
r.