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MacBytes
Dec 5, 2006, 04:55 PM
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Description:: HP's upcoming "Crossfire" all-in-one has some features that would fit well with the iMac.

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rstorm
Dec 5, 2006, 06:59 PM
No matter...it still will not have OSX in it so who cares.

livingfortoday
Dec 6, 2006, 12:51 AM
To be honest, those features aren't that impressive. What's it got over the iMac? A touchscreen? Do people really want/need that in a desktop? Plus, it's ugly as sin.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/livingfortoday2/hp_crossfire1.jpg

Eidorian
Dec 6, 2006, 02:04 AM
So...where's the price tag on this HP wonder?

livingfortoday
Dec 6, 2006, 02:09 AM
So...where's the price tag on this HP wonder?

The article I found that had the photo said "Expect $1799 - $1899."

IJ Reilly
Dec 6, 2006, 10:06 AM
I predict that HP will not sell very many of these computers. This PC has a veritable kitchen sink feature list and a premium price tag. The problem is, PC buyers are accustomed to sacrificing features to get price. HP has a tough road ahead.

Eidorian
Dec 6, 2006, 10:27 AM
The article I found that had the photo said "Expect $1799 - $1899."I see it there now. It was 3 AM sorry about that.

Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/30/hp-iq770-crossfire-19-inch-touchscreen-media-pc-revealed/)

SPUY767
Dec 6, 2006, 11:17 PM
I predict that HP will not sell very many of these computers. This PC has a veritable kitchen sink feature list and a premium price tag. The problem is, PC buyers are accustomed to sacrificing features to get price. HP has a tough road ahead.

Notice the loose use of the term, features, which when translated means, ungainly piles of rubbish stuffed in to make it seem like a better deal than it is.

The thing that SO MANY people glaze over in articles like this is the fact that people who would buy this system, and have the money to buy this system are either going to want, or will already have a much larger flat screen television a la 42" or 50". This makes the built in monitor superfluous. This HP nugget is a computer with an identity crisis, it doesn't know if it wants to be a media hub or a PC. The iMac which this thing is supposed to compete with knows that it is first and foremost a computer with a few reserved media center features as welcome additions.

solvs
Dec 7, 2006, 02:20 AM
You can already make the iMacs into touchscreens with 3rd party hardware/software. Not really used by that many people. Maybe kiosks, but this seems a bit much. You can also get FM and TV in/out with extra hardware. In other words, the people who want to use it can, and those that won't don't. I'm already ambivalent about the camera, but I expect Apple will eventually add more stuff to the Mac most of us won't use, just so it'll be there in case we do. This still seems like overkill, with a price tag to match. And it's ugly. For the same price you can get a 17-20" Mac with a student discount, an OEM version of Windows, a hundred dollar USB TV in device, a TV and/or VGA out cable ($20 a piece, cheaper for students), a radio (and/or small iPod), and even have enough left over for a little TV that you can use at the same time as your computer. This thing ain't gonna sell to a lot of people, especially ~college kids. Maybe little kids, or schools, but again, kinda expensive and overkill.

And has anyone heard the term "iMac Killer" before? :confused: I haven't.

IJ Reilly
Dec 7, 2006, 11:01 AM
And has anyone heard the term "iMac Killer" before? :confused: I haven't.

Yeah, I did when Gateway tried to market an all-in-one PC after the iMac G4 came out. It was ugly and ungainly and hardly anybody bought one.

Aperture
Dec 7, 2006, 11:24 AM
And has anyone heard the term "iMac Killer" before? :confused: I haven't.

Well this one was pretty close to "killing" the iMac g3.

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/09/imitate.imac.idg/emachine.jpg

..:D

luminosity
Dec 7, 2006, 11:58 AM
i think the imac of today is more or less invincible, or at least far superior to anything similar.

OdduWon
Dec 7, 2006, 12:28 PM
LoL :p it kinda looks like this sony moniter glued to the front lip of a ps2 :eek:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/livingfortoday2/hp_crossfire1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/SDM-HS75P_2.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/hw-PS2-Oblique.jpg
Or maybe the were going for the classic "jonny 5" look? :D
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/800px-J5_posers.jpg

Markleshark
Dec 7, 2006, 12:31 PM
lol @ Jonny 5... *Love*

Xeem
Dec 7, 2006, 12:37 PM
Well this one was pretty close to "killing" the iMac g3.

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/09/imitate.imac.idg/emachine.jpg

..:D

I believe Apple successfully sued IBM over this one.

Anyway, the HP is very ungainly-looking, and the only feature it has that I'd want in an iMac is a TV tuner.

princealfie
Dec 7, 2006, 01:18 PM
Well this one was pretty close to "killing" the iMac g3.

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/09/imitate.imac.idg/emachine.jpg

..:D

That was one dope design...

NOT! :eek: