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thumper
Dec 18, 2006, 11:41 AM
It seems the new ipod is ready to go... but they wont release it
now cuz they want to sell off all the old video ipods...

I hate this marketing approach so i thought id shed some light on
why you should NOT buy an ipod right now...

the new ipod will feature a full screen and touch controls

BUT

Here are some thing you might not know...

-Ultra thin design, as thin as the nano...

HOW???

***iPod will come in 3 versions... 4Gig, 8Gig and 80Gig (the only thick one)

Why only 4 and 8 Gig??? ...

Heres the kicker.........

iPod Supports 2 new things...


-WI-FI
-YOUTUBE/Goggle Video

*can save videos to your ipod



mkrishnan
Dec 18, 2006, 11:44 AM
My god, man/woman, you're a genius! :eek: :rolleyes:

ToastMaster
Dec 18, 2006, 11:47 AM
Pfft. There's been hundreds of threads on this exact same topic, all saying "don't buy an iPod now" because the next generation "true video iPod" is coming out next month, or next week, or whenever.

The best advice I've heard is "if you need an iPod now, buy one now." Regardless, I see no real reason to take this post seriously.

Sources? Meh, who needs them these days, unless of course one of yours is "Goggle Video."

MovieCutter
Dec 18, 2006, 11:47 AM
Yeah, you're full of it...I don't listen to anyone who says they know when the new iPod is coming out when they can't say iPod instead of ipod. Not to mention, you're recyclling the same ********* that has been going around for almost a year.

killmoms
Dec 18, 2006, 11:48 AM
Next up on thumper Investigates, how formica countertops can KILL YOU!

failsafe1
Dec 18, 2006, 11:48 AM
I am laughing at my vain attempt to figure out how I can need an iPod. I really really really want a video enabled pod but can't find a need. Major bummer for me.

ToastMaster
Dec 18, 2006, 11:54 AM
I am laughing at my vain attempt to figure out how I can need an iPod. I really really really want a video enabled pod but can't find a need. Major bummer for me.

Buy one... you'll find you really needed one all these years and just didn't know it. ;)

mufflon
Dec 18, 2006, 12:10 PM
oh wow I'm so inspired now, great stuff, just one question...


... what brand is you tinfoil hat? Sounds great for trolling and bringing other relatively *important* stuff to your brethren on MR.

FleurDuMal
Dec 18, 2006, 12:15 PM
It seems the new ipod is ready to go... but they wont release it
now cuz they want to sell off all the old video ipods...

I hate this marketing approach so i thought id shed some light on
why you should NOT buy an ipod right now...

the new ipod will feature a full screen and touch controls

BUT

Here are some thing you might not know...

-Ultra thin design, as thin as the nano...

HOW???

***iPod will come in 3 versions... 4Gig, 8Gig and 80Gig (the only thick one)

Why only 4 and 8 Gig??? ...

Heres the kicker.........

iPod Supports 2 new things...


-WI-FI
-YOUTUBE/Goggle Video

*can save videos to your ipod



***EXCLUSIVE***

Apple Might Release New iPod Sometime After Christmas Shocker!

The technology world was shocked today as dismayed consumers were informed that Apple are not planning to keep the current iPod model for the rest of eternity and may at some point after Christmas upgrade the current model. This decision to upgrade consumer electronics as new technologies become cheaper and easier to incorporate into existing models is so far unprecendented in this industry.

Apple CEO Steve Jobs when questioned about the decision stated that he thought that "They [the customers] go out and buy new things that we release. It's crazy. I don't know why the rest of the industy hasn't had the idea of releasing upgraded versions of existing product lines before." Immediately after he drowned a puppy.

:rolleyes:

killmoms
Dec 18, 2006, 12:18 PM
FleurDuMal, I officially bestow upon you my Official Recognition of Awesomeness Award (patent-pending).

That was legen—I hope you're not lactose intolerant—DARY.

puckhead193
Dec 18, 2006, 12:19 PM
Buy one... you'll find you really needed one all these years and just didn't know it. ;)

its true, you need one. Once you do then you realized how you didn't manage all these years without one

calculus
Dec 18, 2006, 12:21 PM
Goggle Video



This one I am really looking forward to. I assume this means I can plug my glasses staright into the iPod?

Do you know if I have to get a special dock connector for this?

This is just awesome news...

killmoms
Dec 18, 2006, 12:27 PM
This one I am really looking forward to. I assume this means I can plug my glasses staright into the iPod?

Do you know if I have to get a special dock connector for this?

This is just awesome news...

Don't get your hopes up. According to my sources, "ZE GOGGLEZ! ZEY DO NOTHING!" :eek:

Thanatoast
Dec 18, 2006, 12:27 PM
Okay, now that all the smarmy is (hopefully) out of our system, how about a discussion of the ideas presented? Whether they're made up or not isn't exactly relevent.

iPod line consolodation sounsd interesting. The original iPod was only 5 gigs, so the top end at 8 seems reasonable. And the 80 gig iPodpro for those serious users. But then you'd lose video on the low end.

Of course, Steve never really was keen on video anyway, so he might just move it upmarket. And really, why should there be both a 40 and 80 gig? If you want your whole collection, just get the bigger iPod. It's classic Steve - if you want a monitor with your Mac, buy an iMac. Very few compromises.

I just want to see the touch-bezel in action on a new fullscreen iPod.

:)

mkrishnan
Dec 18, 2006, 12:38 PM
Okay, now that all the smarmy is (hopefully) out of our system, how about a discussion of the ideas presented? Whether they're made up or not isn't exactly relevent.

I was actually hoping for more smarminess. :o

calculus
Dec 18, 2006, 12:41 PM
Don't get your hopes up. According to my sources, "ZE GOGGLEZ! ZEY DO NOTHING!" :eek:

You can't be right surely. Just who are your sources and why on earth should I believe you rather than the other fellow? I want my Goggle Videos and I want them now!

ipodhelp
Dec 18, 2006, 02:20 PM
How do you know if this is going to be true?

macg4
Dec 18, 2006, 02:44 PM
How do you know if this is going to be true?
yeah thats what my next ? was

brad.c
Dec 18, 2006, 02:59 PM
In my experience, the best way to coax a major upgrade release is to buy the existing model. I did my part this past spring, and bought a 5.0G video iPod. Hey, at least it can play Pac-man.

Obsolete me, baby!

ChickenSwartz
Dec 18, 2006, 03:05 PM
Yeah but here is my question, what if you want an iPod, now? Or you want to give one to someone for Christmas? Are you just a pawn in Apple's master plan? No, you are consumer buying an exceptional product and if you are giving it to someone you are taking part in the spirit of the season, so what?

<sarcasm>I hate all those stores that sell Christmas decorations at full price and the day after Christmas mark them down by 50%. They are taking you to the cleaners.</sarcasm>

By the way, it is Christmas not xmas.

brad.c
Dec 18, 2006, 03:07 PM
By the way, it is Christmas not xmas.

Yes, and it's a tech board, not a Jesus board.

killmoms
Dec 18, 2006, 03:10 PM
Yes, and it's a tech board, not a Jesus board.

Uh oh, militant athiest inbound! PUT ON YOUR FLAME RETARDANT SUITS! :eek:

Even when I was a rebellious teen who OMG HAETS RELIGIONS, I spelled "Christmas" correctly, not because I believed in the holiday but because I respect the correct spelling of words. :mad:

brad.c
Dec 18, 2006, 03:14 PM
That's true, I apologize with respect to Christians. But what does Christianity have to do with shopping? "Xmas" is an acceptable abbreviation for incorporating all belief (and non-beliefs) during the year-end season.

ipodhelp
Dec 18, 2006, 03:31 PM
Should I get an Ipod Video now or what for the next newest thing? And what are rumors of then next coming things? Please, I need help badly.

brad.c
Dec 18, 2006, 03:40 PM
If the current models fulfill your current needs, then go for it. If you primarily want it for music, and portable disk space, buy it now. I watched the entire Firefly series (ripped from my DVD set), as well as the complete British Office serires (same) on the subway with my 5.0G model. It wasn't too bad at all. Playing the waiting game is just plain nuts, unless you already have a music player to get you by.

If, however mobile movie watching is Important (with a capital "I"), then wait. In that case you'd be regretting it in the next six months.

ChickenSwartz
Dec 18, 2006, 03:46 PM
That's true, I apologize with respect to Christians. But what does Christianity have to do with shopping?

The whole basis of buying gifts for others during the Christmas season is based on Christianity.

"Xmas" is an acceptable abbreviation for incorporating all belief (and non-beliefs) during the year-end season.

No it isn't. It is silly.

Quboid
Dec 18, 2006, 03:47 PM
I am not sure of the OP's intentions or sources , but the advice to hold out is definitly worth it unless its a christmas present or an absolute direct necessity. When the new iPod comes out it will definitly be better than what is currently availible.

brad.c
Dec 18, 2006, 03:48 PM
Dude, you are entitled to your beliefs. And the OP is entitled to his spelling preferences. Let's sitick to answering the questions, or move on.

aricher
Dec 18, 2006, 03:54 PM
Should I get an Ipod Video now or what for the next newest thing? And what are rumors of then next coming things? Please, I need help badly.

Good grief man/woman - use the search feature on this - there are too many rumors to list.

brad.c
Dec 18, 2006, 03:59 PM
This point has likely been raised before, but what are the odds of a release next month? The choices for launch are the (code named) iPhone, (code named) iTV, the True Video iPod, to name three. Of which, only the iTV has been spoken of directly by Steve.

Would either the iTV of True Video Ipod be launched independant of a large-scale expansion of the iTunes Movie store?

Gee
Dec 18, 2006, 04:25 PM
...who OMG HAETS RELIGIONS, I spelled "Christmas" correctly, not because I believed in the holiday but because I respect the correct spelling of words.

Apart from 'hates'? :D

bearbo
Dec 18, 2006, 04:47 PM
I am not sure of the OP's intentions or sources , but the advice to hold out is definitly worth it unless its a christmas present or an absolute direct necessity. When the new iPod comes out it will definitly be better than what is currently availible.

sure the new might be nice and all that... it's not coming out in a month... it was updated the past september.. .the last time it was updated was a year ago. get real

Dude, you are entitled to your beliefs. And the OP is entitled to his spelling preferences.

there is no right or wrong in belief, but there is right or wrong in spelling...

sure Xmas is a few letters short than Christmas, it might be annoying and perhaps even in convenient to others... that's just plainly selfish. i can't believe people defend for this. surely you would want other people to properly spell your name.
Let's stick to answering the question,
also... what is the question OP asked? last time i checked there was no question asked...
or move on.
you can move on if you like.

mufflon
Dec 18, 2006, 05:45 PM
sure Xmas is a few letters short than Christmas, it might be annoying and perhaps even in convenient to others... that's just plainly selfish. i can't believe people defend for this. surely you would want other people to properly spell your name.


not to mention that christmas is part of the christian religion, removing "christ" from a christian radiotion would be really sad, however commercialised it might have become :)
(so yeah, go bearbo!)

ghall
Dec 18, 2006, 06:11 PM
Um...did I miss something? How did this thread turn from a conversation about iPods coming out after Christmas, to the proper spelling of Christmas.

By the way, weren't all the iPods released some time after Christmas? ;)

zephead
Dec 18, 2006, 06:17 PM
With how up-in-arms people here get when iPod is spelled wrong (ipod, Ipod, I-pod) instead of "iPod", I would think "Christmas" would be spelled right instead of "xmas".

Moving on, I believe the OP is full of crap. :D

SkyBell
Dec 18, 2006, 06:34 PM
Who else thinks this thread is completly pointless?

(So... why am I posting here? :confused: )

asxtb
Dec 18, 2006, 06:35 PM
Has no one ever seen this?
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas)

I can't believe I'm using wikipedia for a reference. It's a horrible reference.

ezekielrage_99
Dec 18, 2006, 06:50 PM
By the way, it is Christmas not xmas.

It can be both actually, early christian believed it was sacreligous to write christmas so they used a cross as a symbolise the word chirst, which in time became "Xmas". This is where "Xmas" or "tmas" had it's intial beginings.

Xmas was a sign of respect because christ's name was believed too holy for just anyone to write, so Xmas was born.

Xmas was NEVER an abbreviation of Chirstmas it was intially a sign of respect in latter time it was believed to be the "shorthand" or lazy way to write Chirstmas.

Electro Funk
Dec 18, 2006, 07:11 PM
personally, i cant wait for xmas!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :p

afields
Dec 18, 2006, 07:50 PM
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/original/orly-53993.jpg

n-abounds
Dec 18, 2006, 11:33 PM
LOL @ ^
Some people will wonder why you're bringing bagels and such into the conversation.

Anyways, anyone have any ideas on what a new iPod Nano would include? I can't imagine it being that much better..maybe cheaper, but not much better.

And please, Christmas as we know it was invented by Coca-Cola...

asxtb
Dec 19, 2006, 12:09 AM
LOL @ ^
Some people will wonder why you're bringing bagels and such into the conversation.

Anyways, anyone have any ideas on what a new iPod Nano would include? I can't imagine it being that much better..maybe cheaper, but not much better.

And please, Christmas as we know it was invented by Coca-Cola...
Didn't Sears have a hand in it as well?

Counterfit
Dec 19, 2006, 03:16 AM
Whether they're made up or not isn't exactly relevent.

It's completely relevant, and pretty much the point. You pulled this out of your ass, so here's my discussion on the ideas presented: it's a bunch of crap.






Get it? :p

net26
Dec 19, 2006, 03:55 AM
I actually disagree with not buying an iPod now (waiting) as the iPod is a MUSIC player. I don't believe it should be a portable all-media device. although I know the nano will become the "music" player after the FS video iPod is introduced, nanos simply can't handle large libraries. my iTunes library is 25 -28gb OF MUSIC so the 30gb 5.5g iPod is actually perfect. I can even fit a movie or a few sitcoms on it when need be. I LOVE having ALL my music with me ALL the time. I know I don't listen to all of it, but it gives me peace of mind that whenever I want to, I can listen to practically anything I want. Having "just" 8gb of music seems almost barbaric :)

That said, I can't wait for the 6g iPod to arrive... an 80gb 5.5g refurb would be a perfect toy for the perfect price :D

emotion
Dec 19, 2006, 04:32 AM
That's true, I apologize with respect to Christians. But what does Christianity have to do with shopping?


Or christianity, it's a jacked pagan festival. Why else worship a tree?

*ducks*

:)

emotion
Dec 19, 2006, 04:47 AM
To answer the OP:

I suspect we'll see a shake up in the iPod line in the next month or so (probs not at MW though - at a special event). I could believe a 16GB flash-based slimline video device in with all that. Though I'm hoping that is actually part of the iPod Phone. Simply because I'd like that much storage in a phone rather than just 8GB (which is probabably what it will be).

Those 'real' video ipods will surface with big hard drives over the next couple of months too. We just need to be patient. :)

ezekielrage_99
Dec 19, 2006, 05:31 AM
I have no doubt we will see a new iPod come January 2007, let's face the facts the last iPod "Video" wasn't much of an update so I have to say I think there is a new G6 iPod in the works.

Morris
Dec 19, 2006, 06:11 AM
The whole basis of buying gifts for others during the Christmas season is based on Christianity.


Uhm no, not quite.

The celebrating of 'Christmas' predates Christianity. The tree, the giving of presents and the place on the calendar were part of the ancient European tradition of celebrating the shortest day of the year, which in our present calendar is situated in the last half of December. Similarly there exists a celebration for the longest day of the year which is still celebrated in parts of Europe.

This celebration obviously wasn't called Christmas because Christianity in turn predates the English language. It probably had some Germanic name which I don't know by heart. When people began to convert the Europeans to Christianity (which proved rather difficult at first, they had to abandon a whole range of gods for just one) it was convenient to tag on to an existing celebration. Some historians estimate the original Christian event was held some four months later, around what we now call April.

Now Santa Claus is a wholly different thing. Santa Claus is an American invention of the 20th century loosely based on the couple of centuries old Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas). The similarity in the giving of presents and of appearances are striking. The celebration is held on the 5th or 6th of December.
Sinterklaas in turn is loosely based on Saint Nicholas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas), the Bishop of Myra, who lived in the 4th century in what we now call Turkey. Saint Nicholas was (in some part of Europe still is) the patron Saint of children and sailors.

OK, OK, I'll stop. :rolleyes:

emotion
Dec 19, 2006, 06:16 AM
The celebrating of 'Christmas' predates Christianity. The tree, the giving of presents and the place on the calendar were part of the ancient European tradition of celebrating the shortest day of the year, which in our present calendar is situated in the last half of December. Similarly there exists a celebration for the longest day of the year which is still celebrated in parts of Europe.

This celebration obviously wasn't called Christmas because Christianity in turn predates the English language. It probably had some Germanic name which I don't know by heart. When people began to convert the Europeans to Christianity (which proved rather difficult at first) it was convenient to tag on to an existing celebration. Some historians estimate the original Christian event was held some four months later, around what we now call April.

Now Santa Claus is a wholly different thing. Santa Claus is an American invention of the 20th century loosely based on the couple of centuries old Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas). The similarity in the giving of presents and of appearances are striking. The celebration is held on the 5th or 6th of December.
Sinterklaas in turn is loosely based on Saint Nicholas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas), the Bishop of Myra, who lived in the 4th century in what we now call Turkey. Saint Nicholas was (in some part of Europe still is) the patron Saint of children and sailors.


Thanks man you've just ruined xmas for me.... :D :D

Now where did I put that Coke? :)

Morris
Dec 19, 2006, 06:48 AM
Thanks man you've just ruined xmas for me.... :D :D


I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to. As a compensation for your grief I'd love to give you an iPod but, according to the Great Visionary thumper, that is unwise at this time.

islandman
Dec 19, 2006, 07:20 AM
AWESOME! *panic* :eek: :rolleyes:

brad.c
Dec 19, 2006, 09:51 AM
Well written, Morris. Funny thing is, I read it with an imagined British BBC documentary narrative even before I noticed your location.

Nym
Dec 19, 2006, 10:19 AM
New iPods after Christmas ?? Yes of course, maybe in May!! It's still after Christmas!!

But in January? NO WAY JOSÉ! :p
However, I did have a good time reading your argument on Christmas Vs Xmas, what a Titans battle :D

Morris
Dec 19, 2006, 10:34 AM
Well written, Morris. Funny thing is, I read it with an imagined British BBC documentary narrative even before I noticed your location.

Yes, terrible isn't it? When I read it out loud I see a middle aged man in a red sweater with striped shirt underneath (might he be wearing wellies?) strolling past a cathedral, maybe a rock or twig in his hand, talking to the camera and constantly switching his look from the ground into the camera at the right word. I hope I'm not becoming one. :(

Oh well, something to do when I'm over 50, too early to call the Beeb now.

Yvan256
Dec 19, 2006, 10:51 AM
Do NOT even buy the next, yet unreleased iPod! My sources tell me there's gonna be another new iPod model after that one! :D

rjgonzales
Dec 19, 2006, 10:54 AM
Next up on thumper Investigates, how formica countertops can KILL YOU!

LOL!:p

savar
Dec 19, 2006, 02:19 PM
The best advice I've heard is "if you need an iPod now, buy one now." Regardless, I see no real reason to take this post seriously.


"If you need an ipod now"

I don't think this predicate is ever true.

mcarnes
Dec 19, 2006, 03:27 PM
Blame the parents. I think 'thumper' was thumped one too many times on the head when s/he was a baby. Sad really.

Counterfit
Dec 19, 2006, 03:41 PM
Uhm no, not quite.

The celebrating of 'Christmas' predates Christianity. The tree, the giving of presents and the place on the calendar were part of the ancient European tradition of celebrating the shortest day of the year, which in our present calendar is situated in the last half of December. Similarly there exists a celebration for the longest day of the year which is still celebrated in parts of Europe.

This celebration obviously wasn't called Christmas because Christianity in turn predates the English language. It probably had some Germanic name which I don't know by heart. When people began to convert the Europeans to Christianity (which proved rather difficult at first, they had to abandon a whole range of gods for just one) it was convenient to tag on to an existing celebration. Some historians estimate the original Christian event was held some four months later, around what we now call April.

Now Santa Claus is a wholly different thing. Santa Claus is an American invention of the 20th century loosely based on the couple of centuries old Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas). The similarity in the giving of presents and of appearances are striking. The celebration is held on the 5th or 6th of December.
Sinterklaas in turn is loosely based on Saint Nicholas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas), the Bishop of Myra, who lived in the 4th century in what we now call Turkey. Saint Nicholas was (in some part of Europe still is) the patron Saint of children and sailors.

OK, OK, I'll stop. :rolleyes:

Spot on. ;)

Now, onto the people who claim Easter is based on a pagan holiday are talking out of their ass. It's celebrating the resurrection of Jesus, and the entire Passion started when he came into Jerusalem for Passover. And since Passover is right around that time of year (give or take a week or two usually), that's when Easter is. The Easter Bunny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_bunny) also doesn't have anything to do with pagan tradition either.

adk
Dec 19, 2006, 04:11 PM
-YOUTUBE/Goggle Video

*can save videos to your ipod

This "Goggle Video," is it going to work in Ski Goggles or Just swimming goggles? And what about those goggles the Red Baron used to wear in his Triplane while he shot down enemy aircraft? Will those work?


Sorry to the OP, but to have claims this ludicrous that are completely unsupported by any external data and then to not even spell right makes you a little hard to believe:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Donz0r
Dec 19, 2006, 04:19 PM
I would bet a lot of money that pretty much everything the OP claimed is false.

If apple does release touch screen true video iPods, they definitely won't replace the current 30 and 80 gig models because they will be way too expensive!

Also, Jesus-Schmesus, Christmas is about Family and Giving (and receiving).

SkyBell
Dec 19, 2006, 04:55 PM
Just buy an iPod if you want it. Thats what I do.

mrkramer
Dec 19, 2006, 05:30 PM
This "Goggle Video," is it going to work in Ski Goggles or Just swimming goggles? And what about those goggles the Red Baron used to wear in his Triplane while he shot down enemy aircraft? Will those work?


So is the iPod also going to be waterproof so you can use the "Goggle Video" with your swimming goggles?

Morris
Dec 19, 2006, 06:16 PM
Spot on. ;)

Now, onto the people who claim Easter is based on a pagan holiday are talking out of their ass. It's celebrating the resurrection of Jesus, and the entire Passion started when he came into Jerusalem for Passover. And since Passover is right around that time of year (give or take a week or two usually), that's when Easter is. The Easter Bunny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_bunny) also doesn't have anything to do with pagan tradition either.

Yay, let us go even further astray from this otherwise fabulous thumper admiration. Who cares about Macs anyway? :D

True, Easter is as Christian as it can be. Apart from that bunny of course.

I've just discovered Wikipedia has a really informative article on the whole topic, including the fact that the celebration of Easter is much older than Christmas and that earlier Christians had mixed feelings about celebrating Christmas. It also appears I was wrong about Santa, he is a 19th century American invention instead of a 20th century one. More on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas

VoodooDaddy
Dec 21, 2006, 06:54 AM
Regardless of when the new ipods come out I think now is an excellent time to buy, refurbished ones at least.If you don't need the latest and greatest you can get a great deal on all models in the refurb store.

The new ipods will come out at a premium price with few new features that I can personally do without (although widescreen would nice). But if I'm taking videos on the go the 30/60gb current video versions is plenty good for me. (Even though I don't have one) Would love to pick up a 30gb video refurb after Christmas for $179, almost half price of what my wife paid 4 months ago.