The real iPhone? New ad appeared.

[Diatribe]

Here is a pic from Looprumors.com that shows a supposed ad for the phone. It is consistent with the latest rumors about it, so you'll never know I guess.

If it really is the new phone I am kind of disappointed with the design. Just nothing innovative. Not sure if I would get that. Would depend on what it does I think (integration of iCal, address book, etc.)

Link to pic on looprumors.com (looprumors.com/Pages/iphoneimage.php)

[MacBoobsPro]

That looks more promising than any others I have seen. That pad looks like a notebook touch pad which is quite a good idea actually instead of a click wheel like everyone was thinking.

I guess the 'none touch interface' would work here by hovering your thumb over the pad to move the cursor around then touch the pad to select?

[ImNoSuperMan]

Link to pic on looprumors.com (looprumors.com/Pages/iphoneimage.php)

:eek: Yuck:eek:

It`s 101% fake. Everybody knows Apple`s wont be called iPhone any more. And if they are serious bout a trackpad on this phone, Why cant I see a cursor on the screen? I m sure it took someone not more than 5 min to photoshop a nano and create this iPhone. Or may be this didnt even need PhotoShop. Just MS Paint.

[xUKHCx]

Just nothing innovative.

There is a lack of buttons and what seems like a trackpad. Pretty innovative for a phone. I think it is a case of us all seeing really cool ideas which bear no resemblance to reality that will make the pPod look underwhelming. Although I hope I am wrong.

[iBecks]

I doubt its the real thing, but you never know...

There has been a lot of designs by many, some have looked exceptionally good.

[mad jew]

I'd buy it.

[Chaszmyr]

It looks like an exceptionally well-made fake. I might well think it was real, except I think it looks like a ridiculous design for a phone. I cant even imagine how you would use that touch pad to control the device.

It is lended some added realism by the phone number in the picture being Apple's phone number.

However, the phone indicates that the song playing is 3:50 long, whereas that song is actually 5:30.

[MacBoobsPro]

:eek: Yuck:eek:
Why cant I see a cursor on the screen?

The 'cursor' would be whatever is highlighted in blue.

Theres a 'Setup note' on it too.

"Set up Note: This board should..."

However, the phone indicates that the song playing is 3:50 long, whereas that song is actually 5:30.

It could be a different mix?

[Chaszmyr]

It could be a different mix?

EDIT: I take it back. I was completely wrong. That song is 3:49... So I suppose 3:50 is close enough.

[MrSmith]

If it really is the new phone I am kind of disappointed with the design. Just nothing innovative. Not sure if I would get that. Would depend on what it does I think (integration of iCal, address book, etc.)
So you normally buy things for their looks - and if they happen to be useful that's a bonus?

[MacBoobsPro]

So you normally buy things for their looks - and if they happen to be useful that's a bonus?

I do. Im a designer :D Form over function.

[Tayler]

If its a fake - it is made very well, because:

- Looks like its the packaging (seems like mac mini packaging but smaller)
- UI looks reasoned implicating dialer pad and text message.


Im look forward to buy one, although the announced (rumour-) prizes are *very* expensive. What about the guys who dont need that mp3 functionality.... like me.

[Voidness]

I find it hard to believe that this is the "iPhone", especially that it says iPhone. Apple can't use this name anymore, as we all know.

The interface doesn't make sense. What advantage does the touch pad have over a normal button layout or a touch screen? Look at the compose screen for example, how are you supposed to type? Scrolling through the letters would be awkward using the touch pad (The scroll wheel on the iPod makes sense when you scroll through the letters in search mode.)

I guess this is minimalist design gone bad...

[Chaszmyr]

I find it hard to believe that this is the "iPhone", especially that it says iPhone. Apple can't use this name anymore, as we all know.

That's likely, but not necessarily true.

[MrSmith]

Im a designer :D Form over function.
And thankfully not an Apple copywriter. :D

[jonharris200]

I find it hard to believe that this is the "iPhone", especially that it says iPhone. Apple can't use this name anymore, as we all know.
Anymore? Who said Apple were using it to start with? :rolleyes:

[Voidness]

Anymore? Who said Apple were using it to start with? :rolleyes:
I said so :p Well, they have trademarked in the in several other countries other than the US. It was safe to assume that Apple could have used the name.

[wordmunger]

Why would you have a trackpad when you can have a touch screen?

And "Many abilities, no buttons" strikes me as an absolutely inane slogan.

[MacBoobsPro]

Why would you have a trackpad when you can have a touch screen?

And "Many abilities, no buttons" strikes me as an absolutely inane slogan.

Because you will end up with finger prints all over the screen. :rolleyes:

[Chundles]

How the ******* do you use the damn thing? There's no tactile feedback for the buttons so how do you send a text message? Do you move a cursor on a screen and then tap to select or have they figured something else out?

I say make it look like that but add a proper keypad and a small clickwheel because I simply can't figure out how the hell that would work.

Can somebody enlighten me because I've got no bloody idea.

[Diatribe]

:eek: Yuck:eek:

It`s 101% fake. Everybody knows Apple`s wont be called iPhone any more. And if they are serious bout a trackpad on this phone, Why cant I see a cursor on the screen? I m sure it took someone not more than 5 min to photoshop a nano and create this iPhone. Or may be this didnt even need PhotoShop. Just MS Paint.

Yeah, that's one of the things that threw me off. iPhone is already taken.

Anyway, I agree about the design, one of the worse designs I have seen lately.

[Diatribe]

So you normally buy things for their looks - and if they happen to be useful that's a bonus?

If they are phones, among other things, yes I do. ;)

Because if the basic functionality is there (making phone calls) the other things are just a bonus.

[jessica.]

75% of the world buys a phone because of the looks. I mean, why in the world would they come out with more and more phones each year? Certainly my other phone works fine, but I always want the sleeker nicer phone.

I call BS on the ad all due to the iPhone name.

[MrSmith]

75% of the world buys a phone because of the looks. I mean, why in the world would they come out with more and more phones each year? Certainly my other phone works fine, but I always want the sleeker nicer phone.
75%. That isn't pulled out of thin air, is it.

They come out with more and more phones because phones break and people have to replace them.

Maybe teenagers with 'rich' parents get kicks from changing the colour of their phones. But the function of making phonecalls doesn't change as far as I know. More to the point, if you can pick up phones for a song now (or free, even) why pay more for aesthetics? I just don't get it. I don't want to labour the point, but has society really got to the point where people dump perfectly good products (with all the associated costs to the environment) just because something newer comes out?

Sorry, ranting.

[Diatribe]

...but has society really got to the point where people dump perfectly good products (with all the associated costs to the environment) just because something newer comes out?

Sorry, ranting.

We have gotten to that point a long time ago...

[MrSmith]

We have gotten to that point a long time ago...
I haven't.

[MacBoobsPro]

How the ******* do you use the damn thing? There's no tactile feedback for the buttons so how do you send a text message? Do you move a cursor on a screen and then tap to select or have they figured something else out?

I say make it look like that but add a proper keypad and a small clickwheel because I simply can't figure out how the hell that would work.

Can somebody enlighten me because I've got no bloody idea.

I would guess it works like a laptop track pad. You move your finger 'above' the pad i.e. non touch/no buttons so the highlighted section moves around the screen in conjuction wih your finger moving around the pad. Then when you wish to select the highlighted number/letter/song etc just touch the pad?

They say no buttons so thats how i figure it would work. Or the trackpad could be like a click wheel where you actually touch the pad for scrolling and then press the whole pad in to select. But that would be a button wouldn't it?

[Chundles]

I would guess it works like a laptop track pad. You move your finger 'above' the pad i.e. non touch/no buttons so the highlighted section moves around the screen in conjuction wih your finger moving around the pad. Then when you wish to select the highlighted number/letter/song etc just touch the pad?

They say no buttons so thats how i figure it would work. Or the trackpad could be like a click wheel where you actually touch the pad for scrolling and then press the whole pad in to select.

Well that's bollocks then. No way is that simpler than having buttons.

[MacBoobsPro]

Well that's bollocks then. No way is that simpler than having buttons.

Actually if you forget the 'hovering bit' and imagine using the pad with your thumb and just pressing a bit harder to select something its actually a lot easier to use.

Ooh, im liking this imaginary phne already.

I hope thats how it works. If not ive just given away a frickin brilliant idea.

[MrSmith]

Well, my testicles dropped pre-Thatcher era which means I remember when you really dialed a telephone number. So I appreciate the convenience of being able to clear a misdialled number. However, if now we have to hover our fingers above a pad and touch with the right amount of pressure, while carrying heavy shopping and our third littl'un on the number 69, I would have to say, a la Chundles, it's bollocks.

[EGT]

If it were the real deal, I'd be very disappointed. It must be fake, Apple don't hold the term iPhone.

[Diatribe]

I haven't.

Well, just because you haven't doesn't mean the majority of people hasn't. ;)

[iMeowbot]

It`s 101% fake. Everybody knows Apple`s wont be called iPhone any more.
That in itself doesn't mean very much. Preproduction Apple literature does turn up in real life with fake or code names as placeholders.
And if they are serious bout a trackpad on this phone, Why cant I see a cursor on the screen?
The mouse cursor disappears even on the Mac when the keyboard is in use, and all the screens in the mockup appear to be making use of on-screen buttons.

More damning is that none of the interface elements shown appear to have any use for that giant pad thing, the interface on the "iPod mode" looks like a step backwards, and the keyboard displays (especially the alpha one on the right) would be painful to use without a stylus.

[MacBoobsPro]

The mouse cursor disappears even on the Mac when the keyboard is in use, and all the screens in the mockup appear to be making use of on-screen buttons.

More damning is that none of the interface elements shown appear to have any use for that giant pad thing, the interface on the "iPod mode" looks like a step backwards, and the keyboard displays (especially the alpha one on the right) would be painful to use without a stylus.

Like ive said there wouldnt be a cursor like a mouse pointer, it would be like the iPod interface where certain options are highlighted and you just scroll to what you want then press the wheel/pad. I can actually see this working very well in the OPs attached image.

Typing a message would be quite a fluid experience if not a bit weird at first. Just imagine it as an iPod with a sqaure pad instead of a wheel. :)

[Unorthodox]

They can't call it "iPhone". Fake.

[thejadedmonkey]

Typing a message would be quite a fluid experience if not a bit weird at first. Just imagine it as an iPod with a sqaure pad instead of a wheel. :)

Current phone software uses iTap input method, which allows savy teenage texters (much like myself) to type long coherent messages using you and are instead of u and r very very fast. I won't say it's impossible with the iPhone, but I just don't see how it's doable. I used the search feature on the iPod and it was clumsy as anything. If apple is going to use the same UI on the iPhone, there's no way it will be a hit for texting by the teenage market, who Apple is probably going after.

[MacBoobsPro]

Current phone software uses iTap input method, which allows savy teenage texters (much like myself) to type long coherent messages using you and are instead of u and r very very fast. I won't say it's impossible with the iPhone, but I just don't see how it's doable. I used the search feature on the iPod and it was clumsy as anything. If apple is going to use the same UI on the iPhone, there's no way it will be a hit for texting by the teenage market, who Apple is probably going after.

Im sure they will find away IF they do go the iPad route.

[Flowbee]

You all can debate the merits of this phone's design all you want, but the tag line "Many abilities. No buttons." is a very amateurish attempt at writing ad copy. Apple would never consider using it. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that any ad agency submitting this idea to Apple would be fired on the spot.

[QCassidy352]

You all can debate the merits of this phone's design all you want, but the tag line "Many abilities. No buttons." is a very amateurish attempt at writing ad copy. Apple would never consider using it. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that any ad agency submitting this idea to Apple would be fired on the spot.

I agree with that. No way is this real, for that reason, and the fact that it's called "iphone."

That said, if it were real, I'd be pretty unhappy with it. If it's a touch screen, you'd get fingerprints all over it. If it's a sensor-screen, it's not going to work right. I want real buttons.

[shecky]

75%. That isn't pulled out of thin air, is it.

remember that 82.4% of statistics are made up by the author.

[redeye be]

I'm with MacBoobsPro on the interface thing, no cursor, just iPod style functionality. Just ad a various-display-trackpad-visual thing like:
http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/Toshiba_qosimo_lighted_touchpad.jpg

It would work nice. I'd say

I do agree however this will most probably not be an Apple product. And the copy is awful indeed. Maybe some engineer came up with it to sell the idea to Steve ;).

[Westside guy]

Another odd thing is it has clamshell-like closure bits at the top and bottom, yet is a candy-bar form factor.

Or are those supposed to be something else?

(Fake, and ugly to boot)

[MonkeyClaw]

Well though it says iPhone, it could be an internal name just like iTV is (steve himself said that when it was previewed) and that this could be a simple advertising test board hence the message at the bottom.

As for how it works, I would assume it would work like the pattents since this is essentially what is described in them. The pad would be fore the gesture technology Apple has been working on. I could actually see this thing working quite well if they implemented the concepts correctly.

[nbs2]

However, if now we have to hover our fingers above a pad and touch with the right amount of pressure, while carrying heavy shopping and our third littl'un on the number 69, I would have to say, a la Chundles, it's bollocks.

And that, my friends, is the challenge with this phone. With the iPod, you can have it in your pocket and you know that depending where you click/touch you can play/pause, restart/advance a track, menu (not helpful), select to move backward/forward in the track, or change the volume.

With this, the way it appears, none of that is possible. How can I, while the phone is in my pocket distinguish between answering/ignoring/silencing my phone without engaging the wrong one?

All that being said, if this deisng is real, I expect that this issue will be resolved in some way before release. Otherwise, count me in with Smith and Chundles and calling this bollocks.

[gloss]

Another odd thing is it has clamshell-like closure bits at the top and bottom, yet is a candy-bar form factor.

Or are those supposed to be something else?

(Fake, and ugly to boot)

It's the speaker and mic holes, I believe.

[conradzoo]

I think its real. Not as shown in the ad though...

It would only, but perfectly, make sense if the bottom part, now grayed out, would be a kinda (perhaps monochrone white with blue) touchscreen mimicking the upperpart screen buttons.

[Pieira]

I'm surprised by the number of people who use their phone/ipod while it's in their pocket! I suppose I occasionally skip a track but most of the time I'm pressing buttons, I'm looking at the screen.

I think this interface may be brilliant or absolutely awful I'd have to try it, it looks to me a bit wacom tablet idea to me in which case it could be fantastic, if its like a laptop trackpad it would be awful.

Probably fake though.

[OdduWon]

Looks cool :p with this mini touch pad, maybe we will get a paint application :D Is'nt about time apple released a paint application ;)

[someguy]

What happens when you are on a call and put the phone up to your face? And if the sensor-pad-thing is disabled during a call, does that all of the phones features are inaccessible during a call?

For this and many other reasons (most of which have been mentioned here already), I declare shinanagins. :p

[Chris Bangle]

Hmmmm It is very convincing. I dont think its real because an apple leak is very rare but i think it is real coz it looks so real... Very difficult to call this one. See what appleinsider say about this.


Oh yeh , id buy one straight away if this is it.

the phone dial pad looks like an apple patent ive seen

[OdduWon]

looks like it is in the back of the new icreate :confused:


Aside LOL they must have been inspired by iTalk... theres a zreo seven track playing (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3168733759916419298)

[arn]

This is almost certainly a fake.

If you doubt the original images are fake... another image has been supposedly "leaked"...

The chance that one image is leaked is low, and add to that a followup image? It's just someone with photoshop and time.

arn

[Chris Bangle]

both look similar,,,,, maybe there both real... i liked the ichat mobile thing.



there both real

[Chris Bangle]

I say that this is a real shot of the apple phone....

[nukiduz]

the ichat mobile thing was a fake as it was proved. however, i'd say it's pretty obvious that this pic is fake because of its advertising format (i don't believe someone could leak a finished commercial or that apple could keep it like that), but that's not the point. the thing is that it's a cool concept (although a touchscreen is irrelevant) and that its near apple style. i'd buy it.

[ecksmen]

It's a fake for sure.

Lets assume that it's not a touch screen - there would be a picture of the stylus for a start, also the screen would be bigger and then therefore remove the need for the what looks like "tackpad" bit on the lower half.

Keeping the above in mind, why would they layout the keyboard Alphabetically but in the style of a touchscreen.

No one would ever bother to lay it out like that if it wasnt a touch screen. If you are supposed to scroll through letters using the touchpad, they also wouldn't show you the whole keyboard all the time. It certainly wouldn't take up rows. If anything it would be like the dock with zoom over the selected letter.

It's a complete fake.

Its just too inconsistent for apple.

[Shadow]

Even if it is fake, I want one! It looks so cool!

[poppe]

If that was the iPhone I would not be upset for not saving up and waiting to buy it... I would not like something like that...

[Brayden87]

wow, it looks so yuck!! i mean, i wouldn't want one of those, mp3 or no mp3 its a waste of money either way. Why aren't apple just happy with the ipod instead of going further on this iphone.

[applemacdude]

wow, it looks so yuck!! i mean, i wouldn't want one of those, mp3 or no mp3 its a waste of money either way. Why aren't apple just happy with the ipod instead of going further on this iphone.

because they are a business going for more profits

[gloss]

I have to agree that that is one ugly phone. Not nearly as elegant as I would expect from Cupertino. It looks like a giant Front Row remote.

[poppe]

I just hope its not white like the dang iPod. Sure the iPod was great and all but break away... man oh man... I hate how every stupid iPhone guess is an iPod... I'm tired of the iPod... How about Apple come out with something that looks super professional something to go along with the Pro users. Come out with an iPhone that is all white and plasticy and goodie gum drops. But please Apple come out with an actually nice, sleek, elegant, and sexy phone... Make me stop in awe when I pull my iPhone out (like they all do when I pull my MBP out).

Didn't mean to sound like I was being rude. More of a mad because nothing is on TV and Saturday Night Live hasn't been funny in say what 5 years maybe more?

[Project]

Here is a pic from Looprumors.com that shows a supposed ad for the phone. It is consistent with the latest rumors about it, so you'll never know I guess.

If it really is the new phone I am kind of disappointed with the design. Just nothing innovative. Not sure if I would get that. Would depend on what it does I think (integration of iCal, address book, etc.)
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Dude its obviously a fake, but if iit wasnt, are you serious about it having nothing innovative? What phone have you ever seen with a trackpad for an input device??

I guarantee the real iPod phone will look much more traditional than this design.

[wmmk]

can I just remind all of us that apple doesn't have rights to the name iPhone? listen, I doubt it's coming out. apple has never been into subscription based products. also, the phone market is really crowded. it already has lots of great stuff. the macintosh made computers easy to use. the iPod did the same for MP3 players. there are already lots of easy to use multimedia phones. just an opinion though, I'll never say never...

[gloss]

can I just remind all of us that apple doesn't have rights to the name iPhone? listen, I doubt it's coming out.

Apple doesn't have the rights in the US. It does elsewhere.

And if it's not coming out, prepare to see their stock plummet. This phone has become an expectation, and not just among the faithful, but among the media and the stockholders.

[FF_productions]

Would look cool but I think it's fake. It looks like the other fake that was posted before.


We'll just have to wait until Apple releases the actual iPhone...it won't even be named iPhone. Maybe iPod Phone or somethin like that.

[camomac]

hmmm, i'd say fake.

i think it is ugly, and i'd hope for something better.
(sounds like an echo in here)

[dlowe402]

I think the trackpad idea would be a big mistake! I certainly would not buy it. what a pain in the rear to dial, text msg, or pretty much anything for that matter. I have several macs including the MB i'm typing on now and have been an avid Apple afficianado for many, many years, and I cant imagine that they would put out such a poorly thought out design. I think it would be clumsier than my Treo650 which, if they do it right, I would dump in a second for an Apple product. It has to be as cool and easy to use as an iPod!

[psychofreak]

because they are a business going for more profits

Who says they are making an iMnotmadebyCiscoPhone?I think they are

[Squonk]

It looks like a clean design. But I agree with y'all that it makes no sense how that would function with a trackpad. fake du jour. :rolleyes:

[Manuel Moreno]

another mobile me:

[Sirin]

iRemember having an iPhone - Got it in 1999. :rolleyes: Looked like this:
http://dwp.bigplanet.com/mojomagic/nss-folder/pictures/iphone2.jpg

[buffalo]

I think I'd like to have buttons on my phone.

[Compile 'em all]

another mobile me:

That is one fugly iPhone :eek:

[ziwi]

Trackpad in pocket? Who would I be calling and what features would I be enabling or disabling as I walk? And as was pointed out - iPhone can not be the name...

[zap2]

Honestly I just want it.....let it browse the web, iTunes support, sync with Mac OS X..and some super secret features that make it different from other cell phones.

[technicolor]

This isnt even close to anything apple would design, product or signage.

[IDANNY]

Its fake but I want an apple phone so bad I wish it wasnt.