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MacRumors
Dec 30, 2006, 07:42 PM
Vote: Poll: What do you most want to see at Macworld? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=529)



zapp
Dec 30, 2006, 07:46 PM
Vote: Poll: What do you most want to see at Macworld? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=529)

ultra thin macbook pro would be awesome, 10 days to go

MazaGRANDEman
Dec 30, 2006, 07:54 PM
My vote goes to the iPod phone, although the true video iPod could be awesome, too.

Not to mention the ultra slim MacBook! :cool:

If I only had money...

devilot
Dec 30, 2006, 08:02 PM
ultra thin macbook pro would be awesome...I agree even though I'm definitely not in the market for a new machine right now.

samh004
Dec 30, 2006, 08:03 PM
New features of Leopard would be nice to see and the final version of the iTV, what it can do, what it costs etc...

ShiggyMiyamoto
Dec 30, 2006, 08:05 PM
My vote goes to the ultra slim MBP, and I AM in the market for a new machine. I have a 600 MHz G3 iBook circa 2001. Yeah yeah I know it's old, hence why I want a new machine. If there is no thin MBP, then I'll save up for a regular MBP.

miloblithe
Dec 30, 2006, 08:09 PM
I'm mainly just hoping for rapid progress on processor power, which realistically with Intel will likely be slow and steady. I'm not planning on buying a new computer for another year or so, fall 2007 at the earliest and spring 2008 at the latest.

dllavaneras
Dec 30, 2006, 08:49 PM
An ultrathin MB or MBP. If one comes out, I would definitely reconsider getting a 30D and lenses this summer.

dashiel
Dec 30, 2006, 09:08 PM
I'm mainly just hoping for rapid progress on processor power, which realistically with Intel will likely be slow and steady. I'm not planning on buying a new computer for another year or so, fall 2007 at the earliest and spring 2008 at the latest.

why do you say slow and steady? a year ago we saw the introduction of the core duo processor, six months later we got the core2 duo and the dual core xeon. we should see santa rosa and kentsfield for laptops and desktops respectively. compared to the glacier like progress of ibm/motorola, intel's product release cycle has been nothing short of amazing.

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as for products

1) iphone... i lost my slvr months ago and can't be arsed to spend hundreds on an inferior replacement when the apple phone is just around the corner.

2) iTV... more than anything i'm excited to see what it's really all about. i think we just got a taste in october.

3) ultra thin macbook... my G4 is aging badly.i don't use it enough to justify a MBP, but require features the MB doesn't have. unless intel is ahead of schedule with santa rosa i don't think we'll see it.

4) the top secret tiger features mentioned at WWDC

DMann
Dec 30, 2006, 09:22 PM
why do you say slow and steady? a year ago we saw the introduction of the core duo processor, six months later we got the core2 duo and the dual core xeon. we should see santa rosa and kentsfield for laptops and desktops respectively. compared to the glacier like progress of ibm/motorola, intel's product release cycle has been nothing short of amazing.

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as for products

1) iphone... i lost my slvr months ago and can't be arsed to spend hundreds on an inferior replacement when the apple phone is just around the corner.

2) iTV... more than anything i'm excited to see what it's really all about. i think we just got a taste in october.

3) ultra thin macbook... my G4 is aging badly.i don't use it enough to justify a MBP, but require features the MB doesn't have. unless intel is ahead of schedule with santa rosa i don't think we'll see it.

4) the top secret tiger features mentioned at WWDC

Tiger or Leopard features?

DMann
Dec 30, 2006, 09:23 PM
My vote goes to the iPod phone, although the true video iPod could be awesome, too.

Not to mention the ultra slim MacBook! :cool:

If I only had money...

Any Ultra-Slim anything would be Great!

Superdrive
Dec 30, 2006, 09:28 PM
If by "Ultra-slim" we mean "12 inches" consider it sold!

DMann
Dec 30, 2006, 09:36 PM
New features of Leopard would be nice to see and the final version of the iTV, what it can do, what it costs etc...

iTV will be trend setting and will define the next wave of
media networking.

If by "Ultra-slim" we mean "12 inches" consider it sold!

12 inch screen is predicted!

dllavaneras
Dec 30, 2006, 09:39 PM
If by "Ultra-slim" we mean "12 inches" consider it sold!

I don't see much of a market for a 12 inch thick laptop :p
But yes, I definitely want an ultrathin. Perfect for my job! Bring it on

Dont Hurt Me
Dec 30, 2006, 09:40 PM
A real consumer desktop computer without any handicapping or gimmicks because of another Apple product. That would be nice.

Rocketman
Dec 30, 2006, 10:10 PM
I voted for new displays on the theory they are the most likely in conjunction with "iTV".

I do believe the fullscreen video iPod is an element of the iTV scheme.

Mac news is likely limited to OSX updates, app updates and on release of Leopard, an update to Mac-mini to C2D so we have an all 64 bit mac lineup.

I would expect "minor" announcements or silent updates to iMac (C2Q), Xserve (C2Q) and 802.11n accessories.

Rocketman

My mom wants iTV.

thegoldenmackid
Dec 30, 2006, 11:10 PM
all of them...or is that stupid?

know-it-all5
Dec 30, 2006, 11:54 PM
all of them...or is that stupid?

No not all of them, however, more than we might imagine.

Here are my list of things expected at macworld, though not to be intoduced/demoed in the same order

1st is another leopard preview and update on how its doing, though i don't think leopard need to be a priority if it isn't gonna be shipping within a month. thus i don't think we'll be seeing many new topsecret aspects of leopard. odds 10/10 (leopard will ship in march)

2nd ilife and iwork will get a good chunk of time especially iwork's new spreadsheet program ( i think it is likely). we won't see many new aspects of ilife except apple hopefully making iweb more friendly, to stuff other than .mac. odds 9/10 (shipping immediately)

3rd Mac mini processor boost to core 2 duo to make apple 100% 64 bit. I hope so, but don't think apple will necessarily do it at mac world. These are still consumer level machines, and they just got updated in september (though that was only a minor speed bump). odds 6/10 (shipping immediately if announced)

4th ITV is coming at us with the intro of new aspects that Jobs held from us at the september event. 10/10 (shipping january 30th)

5th Truer video ipod likely to also be announced (keyword truer). I honest wouldn't expect apple to go touchscreen or fullscreen on us yet. I hold it as a possibility, but don't wanna be dissapointed. The word truer is used to represent some ipod which is more focused on video, though i won't expect a psp screensize on an ipod. I think apple is gonna have to minimize or dump the click wheel to expand to a zune size 3inch or 3.5inch screen, though with a significantly better resolution than 320x240. I think the most likely scenario as to how this would fit into the ipod line would be how the ipod photo did. Place the New ipod at the top in place of the 80gig with a 100 gig toshiba drive. then knock out the 5.5 generations from under it in june or july, replacing them with the truer video ipod aka 6g ipod. odds of ipod update 9/10. odds of "TRUE" video ipod 5/10 aka 50-50. PLUS-EDIT: I also believe as somebody previously said, "it works with the itv scheme of things" they likely go hand in hand well.

6th display update of some sort is likely. I haven't spent much time learning of many display rumors, so I am quite unsure of the likelihoodm though a blind bet, would be that it is likely, but not any bigger models. just new looks etc (maybe an isight) for the current ones. "remember macworld is mostly a consumer event" odds 7.5/10

gerardrj
Dec 31, 2006, 12:43 AM
A real consumer desktop computer without any handicapping or gimmicks because of another Apple product. That would be nice.

The current iMacs are only "hobbled" in one way I can think of: they have two RAM slots capable of 2GB modules each, but the system will not use more than 3GB total.
Other than that, they have Gb ethernet, BT, WiFi, screen spanning, etc, etc.
Could you expand on your complaint a little?

As for what I'd like to see at Macworld:

1. iWork updated to include a spreadsheet, a drawing program and a database. Lets FINALLY put AppleWorks in the grave. Price should stay at $89.

2. A rechargeable wireless mouse with built-in lithium polymer battery. If it gets rid of the dirt-trap that is the current scroll ball, all the better.

3. A replacement to the iSight, something that uses the new USB camera and would be a LOT slimmer than the previous model. Imagine something the size of the current Shuffle with hangers for laptops and standard displays. It just doesn't make sense to me to build the iSight in to the stand-alone displays; too many redundant cameras when you have multiple displays, or a second display connected to an iMac or laptop. It may even have an adapter so the iPod video could record directly from the iSight.

4. Better peripheral interaction/syncing. Ex: syncing home folder between a laptop and a desktop, interaction with cell phones for data access, syncing to PDAs.

That's my list of reasonable things that I'd like to see. It's formed from my daily interactions with new mac owners and potential switchers.

Texas04
Dec 31, 2006, 12:52 AM
Hmm you say that multiple camera's might be redundant, but I think it actually might work.

What if one of the "new" features in iChat was a "panoramic" view of the person you are chatting with. More view angles allows for better presentation flow and easier movement. Or even multiple camera angles for better video podcasting. Then again, I may be thinking a little bit to different. ;) :D

Other than that an iTV would be nice along with a iChat enabled phone, preferably Wi-Fi enabled so that everyone could use it, not just Cingular or T-Mobile customers. Computer connects to iTV which connects to 30 inch display / large display that now acts as your TV that connects to your iChat enabled phone which allows you to video chat with friends all right from your TV. 21st Century here we come! :)

~Shard~
Dec 31, 2006, 01:10 AM
Although I probably wouldn't buy either of them, I'd have to vote for the "true video iPod" or the "iPhone", if nothing else due to the fact that we've been inundated with a variety of rumors on both of these products since Christ was a cowboy and I'm eager to see them finally be released! :cool:

bousozoku
Dec 31, 2006, 01:27 AM
I definitely want to see an enhanced iWork suite, preferably with a new application but upgrades to the current applications would be good by themselves. A real upgrade to the current iLife suite would be nice and get me to buy it. Perhaps, something between iLife and FCP Studio instead would be more useful: Final Cut Express Studio?

As for hardware, I don't much care at this point but it would be interesting to see an 8 core Mac Pro. Gone are the days of hoping for a 167 MHz faster G4.

pabloman
Dec 31, 2006, 05:05 AM
I'd love to see a PowerBook G5. The mac just got a bit boring in 2006...

Superdrive
Dec 31, 2006, 05:11 AM
I don't see much of a market for a 12 inch thick laptop :p

Apparently, I didn't proofread too well. Instead of a 12" screen, I really meant this:

http://lemming.name/images/pbg5.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

OllyW
Dec 31, 2006, 05:30 AM
The current iMacs are only "hobbled" in one way I can think of: they have two RAM slots capable of 2GB modules each, but the system will not use more than 3GB total.
Other than that, they have Gb ethernet, BT, WiFi, screen spanning, etc, etc.
Could you expand on your complaint a little?

I think there's a demand for a Mac without a built in screen, positioned somewhere in the middle ground between the mini & the pro.

Dagless
Dec 31, 2006, 06:32 AM
New iPods. I've got my eyes set on a 5.5G 80gb model. Anything that makes that cheaper gets thumbs up from me :D

zap2
Dec 31, 2006, 09:41 AM
iPod, iTV and Apple Cell Phone

PhilaScott
Dec 31, 2006, 10:20 AM
:eek: How did they miss the iTV as one of the main choices?! That's my first choice, followed second by a true iPod Video...

... and the final version of the iTV, what it can do, what it costs etc...

wrldwzrd89
Dec 31, 2006, 10:28 AM
I'm mainly looking for new info on Leopard.

mainstreetmark
Dec 31, 2006, 10:38 AM
Put me down for a iPhone. Every cellphone I've had since 2000 has been worse than the previous ones. I really need to stop dropping them in the river or something. Or, perhaps the iPhone should be waterproof, and have built in marine radio. What? not everyone needs that?

Solar powered macbook? Anyone?

spork183
Dec 31, 2006, 10:40 AM
Steve Jobs- He's a fashion god. Not THE God, but a god. Although some would argue the distinction.

Small/slim is always nice, as is larger/faster for internals. But yea, hoping the itv has some serious features and isn't just another overhyped thing like the Hi-Fi.

iPhil
Dec 31, 2006, 10:42 AM
I'm mainly looking for new info on Leopard.

Me too and that famous phrase from steve: "One More Thing" :eek: :eek:

mkrishnan
Dec 31, 2006, 10:46 AM
Steve Jobs- He's a fashion god. Not THE God, but a god. Although some would argue the distinction.

Apple makes gorgeous computers. I'll call Steve Jobs a fashion god when he burns every single piece of clothing he owns. He's a hippy, for god's sake! :D And those turtlenecks!!! :(

But please, god, please, let there be a subcompact notebook. :o

Anything on the list would be exciting; that's the only thing I want to own.

bankshot
Dec 31, 2006, 11:22 AM
Other: iTV that imports and stores all my DVDs just like iTunes does for my music.

I got sick of realizing that I never watch the DVDs I own because I don't want to bother finding the disc, putting it in, etc each time I feel like watching something. Especially if I don't have a specific DVD in mind and just want to browse. We have the first several seasons of The Simpsons on DVD, but we never watch them because it's much more convenient to choose among the dozen or so re-runs that happen to be available on the DVR at the moment. We stopped buying the DVDs because of this.

All I want is a device to do for my DVDs what iTunes did for my music, and what DVR does for television. Technically easy, politically difficult. :(

spork183
Dec 31, 2006, 12:03 PM
Apple makes gorgeous computers. I'll call Steve Jobs a fashion god when he burns every single piece of clothing he owns. He's a hippy, for god's sake! :D And those turtlenecks!!! :(


Sarcasm my friend, sarcasm (the fashion part, not the god part).

In years past, the things that really jumped out were items that weren't widely predicted.

wyatt23
Dec 31, 2006, 01:35 PM
something that hasn't been mentioned, i'd like to see .mac go the way of the google...

larger and free. now that we are on the heels of leopard, with time machine, contacts emails, documents, and pictures are really the only thing you need to backup.

if you need more than 2.5gbs then obv you'd get an ext hd.

i'm psyched to hear about the ultrathin... i'm wondering what the price point will be.. perhaps in between blackbook and 15"? i don't quite remember the prices on the 12" pb.

right now, i'm in a good mindset becasue no matter what products come out, i won't be able to afford ANY! ha :D so bring on as much apple pr0n as possible!

A is jump
Dec 31, 2006, 01:40 PM
well I my friends am hoping for Logic Pro 8. though of the products posted, the 12 inch mbp would be awesome... my pb is really incapable when it comes to heavy duty work.

bousozoku
Dec 31, 2006, 03:19 PM
well I my friends am hoping for Logic Pro 8. though of the products posted, the 12 inch mbp would be awesome... my pb is really incapable when it comes to heavy duty work.

You can be sure that Logic Pro 8 will be announced at NAMM, not a consumer products exposition.

RayCon
Dec 31, 2006, 05:33 PM
I would most definitely like to see a true video iPod with virtual controls on a touch screen. Let's not let the Zune get more than a tiny foothold before Apple puts it away. Apple needs to make it a no-brainer, so that no one would even consider a Zune. The time to shut the door is NOW!

PreacherKane
Dec 31, 2006, 05:47 PM
.:) ;) ;)

Kane.Elson
Dec 31, 2006, 05:53 PM
Definitly the ultraportable macbook, it has been what I have been hoping for all year since the intel transition.

heffemonkeyman
Dec 31, 2006, 06:37 PM
Core 2 Duo Mac Mini

Mac'Mo
Dec 31, 2006, 11:17 PM
i voted Vpod but i reallly really wanted to choose ultra thin MB but decided against it because i just bought a MB and it would kill me if they released and Ultra thin on a month after!

OdduWon
Jan 1, 2007, 03:15 AM
For Apple to make a video like this zune video (http://techzo.com/wordpress/?p=242)...NOT! :p

WOW a shameless play on the fact that "zune" in some circles is slang for ones genitals. And why squeez your butt to pop out an eye ball:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Chundles
Jan 1, 2007, 03:38 AM
Remember rule one of MWSF:

Rule 1. - You never get all the marbles.

seh80
Jan 1, 2007, 04:10 AM
I'd like the phone, iLife 07 with major iWeb upgrades, and maybe most of all I hope dot mac will be improved. I'm not holding my breath.

cube
Jan 1, 2007, 06:18 AM
FireWire, not USB.

BenRoethig
Jan 1, 2007, 09:01 AM
I'm hoping for a new line, either either a Xonroe based machine or a 15" Macbook.

joehack
Jan 1, 2007, 09:38 AM
I'd love to see a desktop system that bridges the gap between macpro and imac.

Somethink like:
Core 2 Duo
i965 Chipset
up to 8 gb memory
external monitor
integrated video with 30" support
maybe one PCIex16 slot.

What do you think?

Jochen

wrldwzrd89
Jan 1, 2007, 10:40 AM
I'd love to see a desktop system that bridges the gap between macpro and imac.

Somethink like:
Core 2 Duo
i965 Chipset
up to 8 gb memory
external monitor
integrated video with 30" support
maybe one PCIex16 slot.

What do you think?

Jochen
I like this idea, and definitely think there's a market for such a machine. The question is how to price such a beast. I'm thinking $2199... but will Apple have the gumption to build one?

Dont Hurt Me
Jan 1, 2007, 10:54 AM
I'd love to see a desktop system that bridges the gap between macpro and imac.

Somethink like:
Core 2 Duo
i965 Chipset
up to 8 gb memory
external monitor
integrated video with 30" support
maybe one PCIex16 slot.

What do you think?

Jochen
Integrated video isn't all that great, that's what I think.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Jan 1, 2007, 11:01 AM
What would be great was if Leopard was ready and shipping... ;)

...but I voted for the phone... if Apple makes a phone, which syncs seamlessly with iCal and Address Book as well as iTunes/iPhoto (and maybe has some nice easy-to-use internet capabilities) and has a nice innovative UI (in short: has to be better then my current Sony Ericsson), then that will be my next phone...

OllyW
Jan 1, 2007, 11:28 AM
Integrated video isn't all that great, that's what I think.

Really, you've never mentioned it before :rolleyes: :D

fblack
Jan 1, 2007, 12:04 PM
what would i most like to see?

1. a Mac Tablet of course

2. iTV

3. Hmmm.... I guess I should pick something on the list. Well, then the iPhone. Not that I'm interested in one, but I think apple cant afford to miss out on this market.

fblack
Jan 1, 2007, 12:13 PM
I like this idea, and definitely think there's a market for such a machine. The question is how to price such a beast. I'm thinking $2199... but will Apple have the gumption to build one?

I would love to see something like that too. But I dont know if it'll ever happen unless apple grows significantly in desktop marketshare.

How's this for a nice fantasy, apple introduces 8 cores and have the Quad Intel 2.0GHz drop from about $2200 to $1999 ? Would that wet your appetite? :)

wrldwzrd89
Jan 1, 2007, 12:16 PM
I would love to see something like that too. But I dont know if it'll ever happen unless apple grows significantly in desktop marketshare.

How's this for a nice fantasy, apple introduces 8 cores and have the Quad Intel 2.0GHz drop from about $2200 to $1999 ? Would that wet your appetite? :)
Yes, definitely... whatever I buy next will either be an iMac or Mac Pro. I'm leaning towards the iMac at this point, but if the Mac Pro looks particularly compelling I'll get one of those instead.

BenRoethig
Jan 1, 2007, 01:15 PM
I like this idea, and definitely think there's a market for such a machine. The question is how to price such a beast. I'm thinking $2199... but will Apple have the gumption to build one?

that's the same price as the Mac Pro.

I would love to see something like that too. But I dont know if it'll ever happen unless apple grows significantly in desktop marketshare.

How's this for a nice fantasy, apple introduces 8 cores and have the Quad Intel 2.0GHz drop from about $2200 to $1999 ? Would that wet your appetite? :)

Not so much.

mjstew33
Jan 1, 2007, 01:39 PM
I'd love to see a desktop system that bridges the gap between macpro and imac.

Somethink like:
Core 2 Duo
i965 Chipset
up to 8 gb memory
external monitor
integrated video with 30" support
maybe one PCIex16 slot.

What do you think?

Jochen

8GB memory in a gap machine between the iMac and mac pro? no.
External monitor, yes.
Integrated video... no.
PCIe 16x slot, no.

I don't know if there really is tha tmuch of an advantage.

i say it will never happen. :(

andyh2
Jan 1, 2007, 01:52 PM
An ultra portable MB or MBP, because if I'm traveling it would be a great companion to have. It would be awesome if the HD was flash memory :eek:

FleurDuMal
Jan 1, 2007, 01:58 PM
Purely for my own selfish interests (and all of which entirely unlikely):

1) iPod Nano range updated to 4, 8 and 16GB, with the same price structure as the current Nano range.
2) Minor iMac spec update, one of a better top end graphics card or 4GB RAM max (and space for two hard drives, if I'm being really cheeky).
3) A pull out strategy from Iraq.

Fin.

a456
Jan 1, 2007, 02:01 PM
A Zune-killer and a Vista-killer

AvSRoCkCO1067
Jan 1, 2007, 02:10 PM
A Zune-killer and a Vista-killer

Well said.

~Shard~
Jan 1, 2007, 03:07 PM
A Zune-killer and a Vista-killer

Both already exist. They are called the iPod and Tiger respectively. :cool:

ToastMaster
Jan 1, 2007, 07:38 PM
An ultra portable MB or MBP, because if I'm traveling it would be a great companion to have. It would be awesome if the HD was flash memory :eek:

Total flash memory? Like 60 gigs of flash in a laptop? That would cost a whole lot more than it would be worth right now. I assume you ARE joking.

eXan
Jan 2, 2007, 08:20 AM
Smaller MacBook Pro/MacBook with video card :mad:

termite
Jan 2, 2007, 12:59 PM
Daddy needs a faster network! I'm running a crummy $30 Airlink in the interim while waiting for Apple to cough it up.

bousozoku
Jan 2, 2007, 02:12 PM
Total flash memory? Like 60 gigs of flash in a laptop? That would cost a whole lot more than it would be worth right now. I assume you ARE joking.

That would be an expensive computer. However, if it had some flash memory to hold specific operating system components to speed things up--things that are constantly accessed--it would really be nice.

pubwvj
Jan 3, 2007, 12:29 PM
I want to see a pocket sized (e.g., Palm) Macintosh. Reduced operating system perhaps, definitely reduced processor. Access to most types of applications. Long battery life is a must. Color is less imporant although nice.

Auto-sync and doc with my desktop, another iPal or my laptop is a must have feature. I say with another iPal because my wife and I want to keep ours in sync. We have Handsprings (Palm) now.

Phone is not particularly interesting to me but it could have that as a selling point. If they do phone it would be great if it worked as Wi-Fi, home base station (maybe via Airport thus Wi-Fi) and cellular. I don't use cell so that in and of itself is boring.

Decent built in camera would be great.

Enough HD to backup my files from my PowerBook (40MB) would be very important because then the iPal becomes a backup that travels with me.

Most of all, I want access to my files in the palm of my hand without lugging around my PowerBook.

fblack
Jan 3, 2007, 10:16 PM
Daddy needs a faster network! I'm running a crummy $30 Airlink in the interim while waiting for Apple to cough it up.

Darn wish I would have thought of that, but definately add that to the list...

Smaller MacBook Pro/MacBook with video card :mad:

Yea macbook w/video card would be nice too, but somehow doubt we'll see it anytime soon...:(

afd
Jan 5, 2007, 08:37 AM
At the moment in my jacket pocket I usually carry


SE k800i- for sending texts, making calls, taking pictures, occasional internet/email access, listening to radio (not for mp3s as it didn't come with a memory card and M2 memory is too expensive) and when I feel I have too, as a modem for PB.

iPod Mini- for obvious purposes.

Palm TX- for taking notes at meetings, internet access via wifi, watching video and sat-nav with bluetooth.

If the Ipod phone did everything above I'd buy it in a shot, even Sim-free, which I haven't done for my last 4 phones, especially if I could use it with little or no set up required as a Modem with PB. Not very confident that it will cover everything though, I might end up with a SE W950 and my ipod mini.

Would love to be proved wrong though!

Clive At Five
Jan 5, 2007, 02:22 PM
I'd love to see a desktop system that bridges the gap between macpro and imac.

Somethink like:
Core 2 Duo
i965 Chipset
up to 8 gb memory
external monitor
integrated video with 30" support
maybe one PCIex16 slot.

What do you think?

Jochen

I would love to agree with you, and I'd buy a mid-range system in a heartbeat, but I don't think it's in the cards. Why? Because every time the gap between the iMac and the MacPro widens, Apple shoves a pricier iMac inbetween. It's their excuse not to introduce a new model which will inevitably canibalize part of the MacPro sales and a significant portion of iMac sales. Apple doesn't want either of these things to happen because selling MacPros and iMacs mean premium prices for hardware and a built-in display, respectively. They know that if there's a mid-range tower, that cost-cautious prosumers will buy it and, very likely, turn around and buy a third-party display. Apple makes less on cheaper hardware than the MacPro, or nothing on the lack of an iMac display.

Both of these mean less $$ for Apple.

-Clive

Clive At Five
Jan 5, 2007, 02:24 PM
Oh, and I said PhonePod, by the way. My current phone is a complete POS (http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/3100).

Yay.

-Clive

bousozoku
Jan 5, 2007, 02:52 PM
I would love to agree with you, and I'd buy a mid-range system in a heartbeat, but I don't think it's in the cards. Why? Because every time the gap between the iMac and the MacPro widens, Apple shoves a pricier iMac inbetween. It's their excuse not to introduce a new model which will inevitably canibalize part of the MacPro sales and a significant portion of iMac sales. Apple doesn't want either of these things to happen because selling MacPros and iMacs mean premium prices for hardware and a built-in display, respectively. They know that if there's a mid-range tower, that cost-cautious prosumers will buy it and, very likely, turn around and buy a third-party display. Apple makes less on cheaper hardware than the MacPro, or nothing on the lack of an iMac display.

Both of these mean less $$ for Apple.

-Clive

Apple did the headless iMac in a PowerMac G5 box and it probably didn't sell because people were expecting some other enclosure or something else.

People swear that they want the stuff but then, when it comes time, the sales aren't there.

Apple might do it again, but what's the point?

backdraft
Jan 5, 2007, 04:07 PM
Vote: Poll: What do you most want to see at Macworld? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=529)

PowerMac Extreme
Quad Quad Core 6GHZ POWER6
Dual 6GHZ CELL based GPU
37.5 TB Seagate HDD (x6)
32GB RAM
Dual 32x BlueRay Optical Drives
8 USB ports
4 Firewire 1000 ports
5 PCI-X slots
Dual DVI/HDMI ports
Bluetooth
Airport

:cool:

Clive At Five
Jan 5, 2007, 05:09 PM
Apple did the headless iMac in a PowerMac G5 box and it probably didn't sell because people were expecting some other enclosure or something else.

Who wants a freaking aircraft carrier of a computer sitting on their desk? Not me. The G4 Cube was the closest we ever got to a cheaper headless mac, but it still wasn't upgradable or versatile like the G4 desktops.

-Clive

Clive At Five
Jan 5, 2007, 05:10 PM
PowerMac Extreme
Quad Quad Core 6GHZ POWER6
Dual 6GHZ CELL based GPU
37.5 TB Seagate HDD (x6)
32GB RAM
Dual 32x BlueRay Optical Drives
8 USB ports
4 Firewire 1000 ports
5 PCI-X slots
Dual DVI/HDMI ports
Bluetooth
Airport

:cool:

$1499?

-Clive

eXan
Jan 5, 2007, 09:17 PM
PowerMac Extreme
Quad Quad Core 6GHZ POWER6
Dual 6GHZ CELL based GPU
37.5 TB Seagate HDD (x6)
32GB RAM
Dual 32x BlueRay Optical Drives
8 USB ports
4 Firewire 1000 ports
5 PCI-X slots
Dual DVI/HDMI ports
Bluetooth
Airport

:cool:

And absolutely no software for it, because its extremely hard to code for CELL :rolleyes:

mrpeanut389
Jan 5, 2007, 11:19 PM
All I want to see is a new case for the MacBook Pro, NAND Flash, and a Blue Ray drive...and of course Leopard...

wmmk
Jan 5, 2007, 11:25 PM
aperture update and another price cut:)

Sesshi
Jan 5, 2007, 11:32 PM
A 12" Macbook Pro would be nice, but having just turned off the 'whirrrrrrrrr' Pro and typing this on the crappy-screened overheat-prone MBP, I would settle for any 'Pro' Mac which isn't riddled with functionally debilitating faults.

EDIT: Scratch that, I'm going to shoot for OS X which runs on any Intel machine.

sushi
Jan 5, 2007, 11:38 PM
Apparently, I didn't proofread too well. Instead of a 12" screen, I really meant this:

http://lemming.name/images/pbg5.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:
No No No!

We are not talking about the Dual G5 Powerbook! ;) :p :D

BenRoethig
Jan 6, 2007, 06:42 AM
Who wants a freaking aircraft carrier of a computer sitting on their desk? Not me. The G4 Cube was the closest we ever got to a cheaper headless mac, but it still wasn't upgradable or versatile like the G4 desktops.

-Clive

I'll let you in on a little secret, most desks are designed to fit a full tower either under or off to the side.

Me1000
Jan 6, 2007, 03:04 PM
I want to see the apple phone, that way people will shut up about it!!!!!!! :p

Cybergypsy
Jan 6, 2007, 04:33 PM
A RED mac......anykind????? I will buy it :)

F0l3ert
Jan 6, 2007, 08:37 PM
Updated MacBook and MacBook Pro's with Flash Boot. But these rumours seemed to have died.:(

PowerBook User
Jan 7, 2007, 01:03 AM
I vote iPod Phone. I think Apple could improve on the designs of current cell phones. However, a 12-inch MacBook Pro would be great!

vendettabass
Jan 7, 2007, 05:11 AM
new displays, keyboard & mouse please! (the only things I'm in the market for!!)

iPegboy
Jan 7, 2007, 02:55 PM
I want to see the apple phone, that way people will shut up about it!!!!!!! :p
nah, people won't shut up about it if they released it. it would be "why don't we have XXXX feature on the iPhone?"

but seriously, a phone that holds 1-2GB of songs, that i could sync to iCal and have Apple OS would be awesome.

SiliconAddict
Jan 8, 2007, 02:11 AM
10.5. I want to see if these "top secret" features warrant me shelling out $120 on an OS upgrade. So far what I've seen points to no.

I'm hoping for a bombshell on Tuesday. Will it happen? *shrugs* Who knows. :confused:

backdraft
Jan 8, 2007, 08:19 AM
And absolutely no software for it, because its extremely hard to code for CELL :rolleyes:

Well the CELL would replace the GPU, not the CPU.

eXan
Jan 8, 2007, 08:44 AM
Well the CELL would replace the GPU, not the CPU.

Oh really? ;) :rolleyes:

fblack
Jan 8, 2007, 12:10 PM
Apple did the headless iMac in a PowerMac G5 box and it probably didn't sell because people were expecting some other enclosure or something else.

People swear that they want the stuff but then, when it comes time, the sales aren't there.

Apple might do it again, but what's the point?

So its always the consumers fault if a product fails? So the cube, the emate, the newton, etc. did not become the ipods of today because the consumers didn't get off their butts and put some money down? Too funny man, too funny, lol ;)

bousozoku
Jan 8, 2007, 01:48 PM
So its always the consumers fault if a product fails? So the cube, the emate, the newton, etc. did not become the ipods of today because the consumers didn't get off their butts and put some money down? Too funny man, too funny, lol ;)

Apple gave people exactly what they said they wanted. The single processor PowerMac G5 was an iMac with a replaceable graphics card with no monitor. I doubt that any of the people who cried for such a machine bought one. People just whine for something else.

The trouble with the Cube, the eMate, and the Newton were that they were interesting technology priced too high.

The Cube wasn't a bad machine but a PowerMac was a better deal, if you needed expansion. The Mac mini is very similar to the Cube and it's still rather expensive.

I used an eMate and found it very interesting but for the price, the speed, and the compatibility, it was lacking.

John Sculley wanted the Newton to be an executive's assistant and it was priced so that no consumer would want one. It was a great product line but obviously, price was a big deal or Palm wouldn't have stolen the show.

The thing is, Apple used to be first with everything, and it doesn't always work. They were late to the game with the iPod, but they were able to try a lot of things before bringing a product to market. If it weren't for the ease of use (and probably a lot of trial and error) the iPod wouldn't be a success. Had they made it less automatic, I believe it would have fallen on its face.

fblack
Jan 8, 2007, 06:53 PM
Apple gave people exactly what they said they wanted. The single processor PowerMac G5 was an iMac with a replaceable graphics card with no monitor. I doubt that any of the people who cried for such a machine bought one. People just whine for something else.

People still bought G5 1.6 & 1.8s, heck alot have been selling on ebay the last year. But there were other issues as well for the lack of sales. You now had an OS that could take advantage of duallies, the single processor G5s performance did not crush top of the line multiple processor G4s like the 1.42 and 1.25mhz (the G5 duallies certainly did crush them), and this was 1st generation stuff that many people wait until there's a revision.

But as far as people whining for something else, you're right its human nature to want more or what's over the horizon.

The trouble with the Cube, the eMate, and the Newton were that they were interesting technology priced too high.

I agree. These products caught my imagination, but I did not feel there was enough value for the price. I think others felt the same, but this is not the fault of the consumer. They gave us what we wanted but priced it so we couldn't have it, or perhaps it wasnt the right time for these products.

The Cube wasn't a bad machine but a PowerMac was a better deal, if you needed expansion. The Mac mini is very similar to the Cube and it's still rather expensive.

I agree completely. This is why I bought a powermac at the time and wont buy a mini now. But it was apples miscalculation, not the consumer.

I used an eMate and found it very interesting but for the price, the speed, and the compatibility, it was lacking.

Agree.

John Sculley wanted the Newton to be an executive's assistant and it was priced so that no consumer would want one. It was a great product line but obviously, price was a big deal or Palm wouldn't have stolen the show.

Yeap. I had a friend who had one, he complained there were issues with the writing software too. But what a great idea, maybe it was too soon.

The thing is, Apple used to be first with everything, and it doesn't always work. They were late to the game with the iPod, but they were able to try a lot of things before bringing a product to market. If it weren't for the ease of use (and probably a lot of trial and error) the iPod wouldn't be a success. Had they made it less automatic, I believe it would have fallen on its face.

Sure. But part of the whole thing is price, value, audience, resources and perception. There's an audience out there for decent mid range machines and tablets, but if the perceived value and price are not right no one is going to bite. I say perceived value because its not just about expansion slots, but sometimes technology as status symbol/lifestyle. Apple may not be the right company at this time to be bring these products to market. In part it has to do with market share and resources. I think they have been more careful and selective with the products they choose to release, which is good. They are not throwing away resources and scrambling around for ideas like back in the 90's. If they had more market share, there might be space for mid range machines or tablets.

I wont buy an imac because i dont want to toss a screen and I like the screens I have. It gives me greater flexibility. So I will still desire a midrange or tablet even if its in vain...;)

Cassie
Jan 8, 2007, 07:07 PM
I voted other, becuase I want them to re-introduce the old Shuffle! :(

zap2
Jan 8, 2007, 07:34 PM
iPhone..I've had crap cell phones since I first had one. I want to go out and buy a new, nice one. I plan on that being the "iPhone"

A full screen iPod would rock too....hopefully I'd be able to spring for both!

macnews
Jan 8, 2007, 08:18 PM
An iPhone is a non-starter for me. iTV has a lot of potential to be big - if something big is announced that could really change things I would hope iTV is it. I mean really, what is another phone on the market? It needs more than just a phone, audio player, address book holder, im chat device and video player to make it "wow" for me.

Chef Medeski
Jan 8, 2007, 08:20 PM
12" Slate Tablet. Face it innovation needs to come back.

eXan
Jan 8, 2007, 08:38 PM
People still bought G5 1.6 & 1.8s, heck alot have been selling on ebay the last year. But there were other issues as well for the lack of sales. You now had an OS that could take advantage of duallies, the single processor G5s performance did not crush top of the line multiple processor G4s like the 1.42 and 1.25mhz (the G5 duallies certainly did crush them), and this was 1st generation stuff that many people wait until there's a revision.

People bought rev. A 1.6 and 1.8 because the dual model was high end = much higher price.

But why people didnt buy that 1.8 PowerMac with 600 MHz bus, remains a question.

SeaFox
Jan 8, 2007, 08:50 PM
Any Ultra-Slim anything would be Great!

I was about to say that an ultra-slim girlfriend would be included on that list, then I saw this post right below it...

If by "Ultra-slim" we mean "12 inches" consider it sold!

Wow, the porn jokes just write themselves. :D