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MacRumors
Jan 6, 2007, 09:59 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

Fake "spy" images are circulating the web, as always, pre-Macworld. One of the more believable (but unrevealing) photos claims to be banner (http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3B2%3A36%3B%7Ffp6%3C%3Dot%3E2336%3D48%3B%3D5%3A3%3DXROQDF%3E2323645554745ot1lsi) in Moscone South which has the same 2007 teaser image (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2007/01/20070101202344.shtml) at Apple's website.

As we await for more elevator spy shots in anticipation of Macworld, here's a review of one item likely to be on the agenda at Macworld... the iTV.

Apple introduced the "iTV" at the "It's Showtime" (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060905144401.shtml) media event in September. Apple's Showtime event Quicktime stream remains available (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/showtime06/) for those to watch. Details of the announcement are summarized here.

- To be released in Q1 2007
- iTV is a codename, the real name will be something different
- Built-in power supply (no power brick)
- USB2, Ethernet and 802.11 wireless connectivity
- HDMI, Optical audio, Component video and RCA stereo audio outputs
- Works with the Apple Remote
- Front Row-like interface
- Works with iTunes PC and Mac

[iTV] wirelessly feeds whatever you downloaded on iTunes which include videos, TV, music videos, movies or your entire iTunes music library to your television set.



guzhogi
Jan 6, 2007, 10:02 AM
Sounds interesting. Don't know if I'll buy it, but sounds interesting.

Macnoviz
Jan 6, 2007, 10:03 AM
looks nice, can't wait till the keynote! (only 3 days and less than an hour away!)

cheunghy
Jan 6, 2007, 10:08 AM
So... can we conclude that the image on apple.com is really related to MWSF, it's more than just a 'Happy New Year' greeting...?

MattyMac
Jan 6, 2007, 10:08 AM
Where's the MacPhone banner???

:D

simontarr
Jan 6, 2007, 10:09 AM
I just brought a big LCD TV, so I'm hoping it's gonna be great- if it is, I'll be buying it.

simontarr
Jan 6, 2007, 10:09 AM
So... can we conclude that the image on apple.com is really related to MWSF, it's more than just a 'Happy New Year' greeting...?

And so it begins :D

justflie
Jan 6, 2007, 10:10 AM
lol, that photo mimicking the apple website 2007 teaser is from walgreens. I don't know why, but that struck me as amusing. Can't wait! :D

arn
Jan 6, 2007, 10:18 AM
So... can we conclude that the image on apple.com is really related to MWSF, it's more than just a 'Happy New Year' greeting...?

it's almost certainly related to macworld.

If it was just a new year's greeting, it wouldn't be on Apple's site anymore

http://www.apple.com

arn

DickArmAndHarT
Jan 6, 2007, 10:19 AM
im saving my 200$ in apple gift cards until the 9th. are we expected an iTv avaliablity from this keynote?

hyperpasta
Jan 6, 2007, 10:22 AM
im saving my 200$ in apple gift cards until the 9th. are we expected an iTv avaliablity from this keynote?

It is expected that Apple will provide further information on the iTV, including its final product name, but that it will not actually be in stores until February.

mhuk01
Jan 6, 2007, 10:23 AM
it's almost certainly related to macworld.

If it was just a new year's greeting, it wouldn't be on Apple's site anymore

http://www.apple.com

arn

at first the UK site still had the macbook splash page, then changed to the 2007 banner for about a day, and has now changed back to the usual macbook splash image.

codo
Jan 6, 2007, 10:26 AM
I'm sick of it being referred to as iTV. Macworld cant come soon enough, if for no other reason than giving this devise a name that isn't that of a Television Network.

tallyho
Jan 6, 2007, 10:36 AM
I'm sick of it being referred to as iTV. Macworld cant come soon enough, if for no other reason than giving this devise a name that isn't that of a Television Network.

It always makes me laugh - if all those Americans actually watched all the rubbish on ITV they'd see the need for a decent name for the Apple product...

Grimace
Jan 6, 2007, 10:39 AM
the image of the iTV always looks warped to me. Maybe it's a vehicle for time machine!:p

VanMac
Jan 6, 2007, 10:42 AM
Looking forward to some interesting and creative 'elevator shots' !

With respects to iTV type device, I would likely purchase. I've been holding off on getting an AirportExpress for iTunes, if this would do video as well.

Machead III
Jan 6, 2007, 10:43 AM
It always makes me laugh - if all those Americans actually watched all the rubbish on ITV they'd see the need for a decent name for the Apple product...

Actually they'd probably think it decent telly.

mhuk01
Jan 6, 2007, 10:44 AM
Actually they'd probably think it decent telly.

your probably right!

ahuman7341
Jan 6, 2007, 10:47 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 10:55 AM
assuming that is a real, not doctored image, leads me to further think we are gonna see something huge at this world. (hopefully more than one)

EDIT: Its real

artpease
Jan 6, 2007, 10:59 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!
:D OMG...you have made my entire weekend!!!!:D

WilliamLondon
Jan 6, 2007, 11:00 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!]

OMG - what horrible doctoring. Wouldn't want to get in that elevator!

Peace
Jan 6, 2007, 11:01 AM
MacMedia Center.

Bonjour for PC..REAL Bonjour as in iChat etc.

iPod Phone

New white,black,silver displays w/camera.

New MacPro

iLife,iWork 07


Still holding out for that elusive 30th Anniversary Mac!!

Compile 'em all
Jan 6, 2007, 11:02 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!




OMG !!!111 :eek:. Where did you find that :rolleyes: :p

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 11:07 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

sorry, but that is the worst doctored image, i have ever seen. you are an amateur.

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 11:08 AM
MacMedia Center.

Bonjour for PC..REAL Bonjour as in iChat etc.

iPod Phone

New white,black,silver displays w/camera.

New MacPro

iLife,iWork 07


Still holding out for that elusive 30th Anniversary Mac!!

you forgot the true video ipod. And there will not be mac pros or bonjour on pcs.

Goldfinger
Jan 6, 2007, 11:11 AM
MacMedia Center.

I think it would be great if the iTV offerd much more features than what is expected right now. I'd like it to be a full fledged Media Center thingmabob. Especially when you look at the updated Xbox which is becoming more of a media center.

look here for Xbox 2.0 info: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/05/the-second-xbox-360-revealed-codename-zephyr/

granex
Jan 6, 2007, 11:17 AM
sorry, but that is the worst doctored image, i have ever seen. you are an amateur.

Can't tell if you are joking, but if not, then look at the image that started this thread. This is a pretty good tongue in cheek rendition in my opinion.

Peace
Jan 6, 2007, 11:17 AM
Oh.And the new GUI ?

Eclipse.

Modano
Jan 6, 2007, 11:18 AM
And there will not be ... bonjour on pcs.

Because it already exists!
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/bonjourforwindows.html
This has been around for a long time.

tkidBOSTON
Jan 6, 2007, 11:27 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

I vote FAKE!

:rolleyes: :p

kresh
Jan 6, 2007, 11:32 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg


Holy Cow Sh**! That banner is the worst photoshop job I have ever seen.

However the location shot is great. I would love to ride that fabulous elevator. It appears to defy the laws of physics, does anyone know where it's at?

FoxyKaye
Jan 6, 2007, 11:34 AM
EDIT: Its real
Living in the Bay Area, I can confirm that that is indeed Moscone South. I haven't been by to check out the banner, but the escalators and lobby configuration are genuine. So, I'm going to vote for legitimate on the banner image.

[Edit]:
OMG - what horrible doctoring. Wouldn't want to get in that elevator!
Hee hee - next floor, the great chasm and fall to the lobby!

VanMac
Jan 6, 2007, 11:35 AM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg
Thank you so much for the elevator shot. You made my day :)

I think those concerned with the photoshopping qualities are maybe not hip to the elevator significance. Anywho, thanks for posting.

WilliamLondon
Jan 6, 2007, 11:38 AM
Holy Cow Sh**! That banner is the worst photoshop job I have ever seen.

However the location shot is great. I would love to ride that fabulous elevator. It appears to defy the laws of physics, does anyone know where it's at?

Yes - they have one on the Enterprise - you know the episode where they travel beyond the edge of the universe?

xenotaku
Jan 6, 2007, 11:45 AM
the 'itv' would be killer if it had a tivo/dvr recorder. Without...I just don't like the idea. Why the hell do I want to stream horribly low quality iTunes video to my HD TV? And pictures? Music? I just don't see the need. I would buy it without thinking if it had a tivo like feature, but without it, it seems like one of the more stupid products Apple has released.

rdowns
Jan 6, 2007, 11:45 AM
Where's the MacPhone banner???

:D

Here silly. It's been reported as fake

http://www.technologynews.com.au/userimages/user998_1168072922.jpg

KindredMAC
Jan 6, 2007, 11:50 AM
Here's the big secret to Tuesday!!!!
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/9695/imacminigo9.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imacminigo9.jpg)

Just something I made years ago for the old SpyMac.com galleries.
I came across it when I was looking for the "iHome in an Elevator" pic on my HD.... couldn't find that one though.... That was a classic stunt though!

CrackedButter
Jan 6, 2007, 12:00 PM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

Well done, you have the distinction of being the first person to make me laugh on these forums in nearly 4 years. Regardless of the poor photoshoping involved, I got the joke/parody.

Anyway, with regard to the iTV product, I'm interested in its form factor and how its related to the Mac Mini.

Samurai
Jan 6, 2007, 12:01 PM
I think it would be great if the iTV offerd much more features than what is expected right now. I'd like it to be a full fledged Media Center thingmabob. Especially when you look at the updated Xbox which is becoming more of a media center.

look here for Xbox 2.0 info: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/05/the-second-xbox-360-revealed-codename-zephyr/

But you're missing the point. Your Mac is the Media Center. iTV is simple a device to allow all your media on your Mac to be displayed. The last thing Apple is going to do is build the iTV into another computer when we all have our Macs already. Keep the iTV as simple as possible to wirelessly display all your content on the TV. Then, if they add full Media Center capabilities into the Mac that would be OK. However, aren't we trying to move form the model where we all have to wait for a broadcast time, setup our devices to record it, store it, and then watch it when we want, to a model where we get anything we want on demand over the internet ? I think Apple will move us away from TiVO and Media Centers as we know it to getting content from the internet (or owned media) any time we want with it all managed on our Mac, displayed on your TV, iPod, or computer anywhere you want it.

Mac'Mo
Jan 6, 2007, 12:04 PM
getting mad freaking excited

brightlights
Jan 6, 2007, 12:07 PM
Well done, you have the distinction of being the first person to make me laugh on these forums in nearly 4 years. Regardless of the poor photoshoping involved, I got the joke/parody.

Anyway, with regard to the iTV product, I'm interested in its form factor and how its related to the Mac Mini.


umm.. isn't the bad photoshopping half the point of the joke?

ahuman7341
Jan 6, 2007, 12:18 PM
Just so you know my elevator illustration up was supposed to look really low quality, nor did I want to spend over 40 seconds on it.

Edit:Looks like bright lights got the idea while I was typing my post.

direzz
Jan 6, 2007, 12:26 PM
Where's the MacPhone banner???

:D


i cant wait until everyone is dissappointed when no phone from apple is announced.

Goldfinger
Jan 6, 2007, 12:51 PM
But you're missing the point. Your Mac is the Media Center. iTV is simple a device to allow all your media on your Mac to be displayed. The last thing Apple is going to do is build the iTV into another computer when we all have our Macs already. Keep the iTV as simple as possible to wirelessly display all your content on the TV. Then, if they add full Media Center capabilities into the Mac that would be OK. However, aren't we trying to move form the model where we all have to wait for a broadcast time, setup our devices to record it, store it, and then watch it when we want, to a model where we get anything we want on demand over the internet ? I think Apple will move us away from TiVO and Media Centers as we know it to getting content from the internet (or owned media) any time we want with it all managed on our Mac, displayed on your TV, iPod, or computer anywhere you want it.

My point really was that we need full Media Center capabilities. Be in the form of a new Media Center machine or as software on your Mac.

It wasn't obvious from my first post, sorry.

I don't really believe in a pay per view or paid VOD service TBH. From a consumer point of view VOD looks very expensive. Let's say every episode of a certain show costs you $1. A cable subscription costs you $20 (mine is 120/year, digital cable) you can watch 20 episodes a month. That's IT. Watch more than that and it starts costing a lot more.
The problem with VOD is that it only works for certain markets/demographics.

Sijmen
Jan 6, 2007, 12:51 PM
Here's the big secret to Tuesday!!!!
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/9695/imacminigo9.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imacminigo9.jpg)

Just something I made years ago for the old SpyMac.com galleries.
I came across it when I was looking for the "iHome in an Elevator" pic on my HD.... couldn't find that one though.... That was a classic stunt though!

Uh.. the sensor bar is missing in that image. ;)

ahuman7341
Jan 6, 2007, 12:55 PM
i cant wait until everyone is dissappointed when no phone from apple is announced.

Way To Be Optimistic!:)

(I agree with you)

Object-X
Jan 6, 2007, 01:01 PM
getting mad freaking excited

Me too! :D

Daveway
Jan 6, 2007, 01:03 PM
Ahhh...the memories that elevator brings me back to. lol

No. No. It really is the new iMac G5!!!!:cool:

KindredMAC
Jan 6, 2007, 01:12 PM
Uh.. the sensor bar is missing in that image. ;)
Wow that's something isn't it? I didn't even think about the Wii.... I should go work for Nintendo!

But seriously..... Anyone think the PowerBook G5 might finally come out next week?
:p

How about Asteroid???
:D

Wait wait I've got one.... how about the iPhone?????
:p :p :p

Chris Bangle
Jan 6, 2007, 01:12 PM
How can you say that the banner is fake... Why would anyone fake a banner. Its clearly real. enough people live near moscone... Someone should hopefully confirm it. I live in the UK so i cant

RichP
Jan 6, 2007, 01:13 PM
i cant wait until everyone is dissappointed when no phone from apple is announced.

Wouldn't it be funny if NO products were announced!:D

Sijmen
Jan 6, 2007, 01:15 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if NO products were announced!:D

This has been a great year for Apple, and we're making it even better with the second generation of iPod Socks.

Evangelion
Jan 6, 2007, 01:17 PM
Oh.And the new GUI ?

Eclipse.

oh yes, the rumoured new gui called "eclipse"... interesting, most interesting...

edit: no, it wasn't "eclipse", it was "illuminous"

Sensfan67
Jan 6, 2007, 01:25 PM
Haha, lucky me, my birthday is a couple days after the keynote, I'll see if I can get anything good.

Yvan256
Jan 6, 2007, 01:32 PM
I've wanted such a box for a long time (no Tivo in Quebec AFAIK), and I need to buy one for my company... :D

miketcool
Jan 6, 2007, 01:33 PM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

Is it me or do the sides of the elevator looked warped? Looks real though! Although suspiciously not grainy enough...

rtdunham
Jan 6, 2007, 01:38 PM
sorry, but that is the worst doctored image, i have ever seen. you are an amateur.

you need to go to the humor doctor.

QuarterSwede
Jan 6, 2007, 01:39 PM
Living in the Bay Area, I can confirm that that is indeed Moscone South. I haven't been by to check out the banner, but the escalators and lobby configuration are genuine. So, I'm going to vote for legitimate on the banner image.

[Edit]:

Hee hee - next floor, the great chasm and fall to the lobby!
I can also confirm that that is indeed Moscone South as I've been to an AES convention there (http://www.aes.org/events/117/) (Audio Engineering Society). The escalators lead to a lot of doors (which can be seen under the banner) and through them will be the exhibition floor. Its freaking huge (http://www.aes.org/events/117/exhibitors/04_AES_08_31_041.pdf) (link is a pdf of the floor plan). Took me most of the day to walk around it and check out all the booths and I still didn't see everything. I'm not sure if that is where the keynote will be but most likely as it is the biggest room in the building. Although there are some other large ones on the second floor to the east of the exhibition floor which, if I remember correctly, have collapsable walls. The keynote may take place there.

In all honesty, that banner (http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3B2%3A36%3B%7Ffp6%3C%3Dot%3E2336%3D48%3B%3D5%3A3%3DXROQDF%3E2323645554745ot1lsi) looks real. Probably taken on a camera phone by someone working at Moscone (janitor, etc.) which is completely believable and possible. Also, you wouldn't be able to see that banner from the street as its on the lower level (LL [like a basement]) and a good way back from the front doors.

aswitcher
Jan 6, 2007, 01:42 PM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

Awesome. Steve must have been inspired by Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and got his own super iLift to get around Cupertino.

natejohnstone@g
Jan 6, 2007, 02:01 PM
But you're missing the point. Your Mac is the Media Center. iTV is simple a device to allow all your media on your Mac to be displayed. The last thing Apple is going to do is build the iTV into another computer when we all have our Macs already. Keep the iTV as simple as possible to wirelessly display all your content on the TV. Then, if they add full Media Center capabilities into the Mac that would be OK. However, aren't we trying to move form the model where we all have to wait for a broadcast time, setup our devices to record it, store it, and then watch it when we want, to a model where we get anything we want on demand over the internet ? I think Apple will move us away from TiVO and Media Centers as we know it to getting content from the internet (or owned media) any time we want with it all managed on our Mac, displayed on your TV, iPod, or computer anywhere you want it.

yes, but the point is that iTV is not reported to steam "ALL YOUR MEDIA," but only iTunes media!
That's a HUGE difference! If iTV indeed only steams iTunes media (iTunes downloaded content), then it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The clue is that it says "Front-row like interface." The same reason Front Row sucks is that it doesn't display anything accept loaded dvds (you can't interface well with other media content, can't setup a prefered player like VLC, etc.
To succeed, iTV MUST:
--handle HD content
--stream ANY format of media content (or at least the standard video formats) and not just iTunes
--have an imput for external hard drives

If the iTV had dvr capabilities then it would REALLY rock and I'd buy it for sure, but it won't. But if it has the above capabilities, then I'd consider it. Honestly, it HAS to, or it's not innovative at all.
Check out this item from D-Link
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=438
This streams other video content, has imputs for external drives, etc. It's also cheaper than $299. iTV has to be BETTER than this, or at least as good, or only the crazy mac uber-fanboys will buy it.

Manuel Moreno
Jan 6, 2007, 02:19 PM
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

eheh looks like narnia's closet!:D

vfortier
Jan 6, 2007, 02:20 PM
I've wanted such a box for a long time (no Tivo in Quebec AFAIK), and I need to buy one for my company... :D

Wait a minute, Bell and Videotron both have Personal Video Recorders.

huy
Jan 6, 2007, 02:27 PM
Anybody else notice that there is more light coming from that banner, as opposed to the one on Apple's homepage?

rt_brained
Jan 6, 2007, 02:32 PM
The banner is real, but it has nothing to do with iTV.

The banner, in fact, is a prequel to 2007 and OS X's complete eclipse of Vista...which isn't news to most of us.

xenotaku
Jan 6, 2007, 02:34 PM
yes, but the point is that iTV is not reported to steam "ALL YOUR MEDIA," but only iTunes media!
That's a HUGE difference! If iTV indeed only steams iTunes media (iTunes downloaded content), then it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The clue is that it says "Front-row like interface." The same reason Front Row sucks is that it doesn't display anything accept loaded dvds (you can't interface well with other media content, can't setup a prefered player like VLC, etc.
To succeed, iTV MUST:
--handle HD content
--stream ANY format of media content (or at least the standard video formats) and not just iTunes
--have an imput for external hard drives

If the iTV had dvr capabilities then it would REALLY rock and I'd buy it for sure, but it won't. But if it has the above capabilities, then I'd consider it. Honestly, it HAS to, or it's not innovative at all.
Check out this item from D-Link
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=438
This streams other video content, has imputs for external drives, etc. It's also cheaper than $299. iTV has to be BETTER than this, or at least as good, or only the crazy mac uber-fanboys will buy it.


thats what I have been saying all along! Why the hell do I want something that streams only low quality crap from iTunes to my HDtv? What's the point? Plus, I have owned the D-Link thing for like a year now....Apple isn't innovating anything. Without tivo/Dvr the iTv is just just a crappy product that is a year too late. The ONLY people that will buy this are crazy apple fans on this website.

Sijmen
Jan 6, 2007, 02:35 PM
eheh looks like narnia's closet!:D

:eek: oh noes Steve Jobs is the new Aslan!

Peace
Jan 6, 2007, 02:42 PM
Seems iTunes has a new pre-release movie available Jan 9th and it's not from Disney. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448075/companycredits)
Click on movies>coming soon in iTunes.

Charlie35
Jan 6, 2007, 02:42 PM
Steve

crees!
Jan 6, 2007, 02:42 PM
Anybody else notice that there is more light coming from that banner, as opposed to the one on Apple's homepage?

Anyone know that there were probably a dozen plus different versions made with that look and feel before one was chosen for Apple's homepage? More light in the photo doesn't make me question it. The homepage graphic and banner are totally different dimensions, tweaking WOULD need to be made.

FoxyKaye
Jan 6, 2007, 02:43 PM
In all honesty, that banner (http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3B2%3A36%3B%7Ffp6%3C%3Dot%3E2336%3D48%3B%3D5%3A3%3DXROQDF%3E2323645554745ot1lsi) looks real. Probably taken on a camera phone by someone working at Moscone (janitor, etc.) which is completely believable and possible. Also, you wouldn't be able to see that banner from the street as its on the lower level (LL [like a basement]) and a good way back from the front doors.
Forgot to mention this - indeed you would have to be inside to take the shot, since the the lobby configuration places the banner and red doors beneath it almost entirely below street level. IIRC, if you peek through the front doors of Moscone South, it may be possible to see the top of the banner only.

Incidentally, the exhibit hall should be through the doors below the banner (where all the vendors and product demos are located). Stevenote would probably take place on the first floor - there's a whole 'nother auditorium that could fit as many as 2,500 above the exhibition floor. Alternative locations for Stevenote could also be Moscone North across the street, or the relatively new Moscone West about a block away (which is freaking huge with a really tall glassed in lobby/atrium). Though also IIRC, Stevenote takes place in Moscone South so everyone can stream right from it to the exhibition hall below.

BoyBach
Jan 6, 2007, 02:45 PM
Seems iTunes has a new pre-release movie available Jan 9th and it's not from Disney. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448075/companycredits)
Click on movies>coming soon in iTunes.


Disney owns Miramax.

Peace
Jan 6, 2007, 02:52 PM
Disney owns Miramax.

Miramax is one of 5 distributors.

The production company's are different.

Aniej
Jan 6, 2007, 02:56 PM
Soo you're saying apple invented a warp zone where elevator doors actually just beam people across large convention center entrances? SWEEET! I knew this would be a great MacWorld.

OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/347848531_8950533ffc_o.jpg

Charlie35
Jan 6, 2007, 02:56 PM
obviously. it's not worth discussing. consider this:

the iTV is $300. the iPod is $250. with a $17 cable, you can connect your iPod to your TV and play anything on your iPod (so, anything in your iTunes), with video resolution of up to 640 across, or "near DVD resolution".

if jobs doesn't blow our minds with secret features like he CONSISTENTLY DOES, the iTV will do HALF of what the ipod does, only slightly more conveniently. only idiots would by it. and we aren't idiots, are we?

maybe some of us.

point is: our returning messiah, steve jobs, wouldn't put such a boastful banner on the site to talk about a product he already announced months ago. he announced the product with half the features to throw off competitors, who will scramble to meet (or slightly exceed) the features he announced previously so he can blow them all out of the water when he announces the device formerly known as iTV also performs fellatio the user (admin password required).

did i mention steve jobs is jesus? i'm not sure i did. well anyway, he's jesus.

and the "one more thing" is going to be the iBot. OMG RUMORS WAHT IS IT!!1

DavidLeblond
Jan 6, 2007, 03:03 PM
Miramax is one of 5 distributors.

The production company's are different.

Miramax is the US distributor, Miramax is a Disney company... not following exactly why we should care about the production company....:confused:

Aniej
Jan 6, 2007, 03:07 PM
and the "one more thing" is going to be the iBot. OMG RUMORS WAHT IS IT!!1
it's clearly Mad Jew's secret posting machine, it will be introduced to the entire world now. Notice MJ will not post for the next several days. Watch and see I bet you he does not post all through MacWorld or at best until the end of the week like thursday or friday... they will be rolling him out. You just watch!

Charlie35
Jan 6, 2007, 03:09 PM
i don't know who mad jew is but, um...i'm charlie. my name is charlie. charlie coutrakon. so...there's that.

Aniej
Jan 6, 2007, 03:10 PM
thank's charlie for that... no one said you were not "charlie" i was saying what iBot would be... get it?

Charlie35
Jan 6, 2007, 03:12 PM
still don't get it. but at least now i don't get it in a completely different way.

sorry. i'm thinking and i still don't get it. was it...a jew...joke? those aren't good.

edit: haha i'm sorry if i ruined your joke. really. i just don't get it. is it like a macrumors inside joke?

Aniej
Jan 6, 2007, 03:15 PM
ughhh g-d man. Go to member list at the top of the webpage and then you will get. and no it was certainly not a jew joke, they are not funny to me either, especially as a jewish individual myself.

BoyBach
Jan 6, 2007, 03:17 PM
edit: haha i'm sorry if i ruined your joke. really. i just don't get it. is it like a macrumors inside joke?


Click here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=256014) and it might become a little clearer.

eenu
Jan 6, 2007, 03:21 PM
it's almost certainly related to macworld.

If it was just a new year's greeting, it wouldn't be on Apple's site anymore

http://www.apple.com

arn

Not totally true.

Apple would undoubtedly leave the banner on their site for a number of days or weeks to make sure it reaches the largest audience if it is macworld related. Not everyone in the world visits the apple site daily. It only appears on apple.com not apple.com/uk (it was on that for 24hrs then reverted to original image) which would reinforce the new year message theory.

As another note. The fact that banner maybe displayed at Macworld means nothing in terms of big releases. Its just an advertising banner to remind everyone 2007 will be a great year. If you look at the pic properly (fake or not) you will see its above the door to be viewed on the way out the building.

oootle
Jan 6, 2007, 03:30 PM
also notice that there is a bit more light shining around the left side of the apple, could this mean anything!!! :eek: :D

Porco
Jan 6, 2007, 03:33 PM
yes, but the point is that iTV is not reported to steam "ALL YOUR MEDIA," but only iTunes media!
That's a HUGE difference! If iTV indeed only steams iTunes media (iTunes downloaded content), then it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The clue is that it says "Front-row like interface." The same reason Front Row sucks is that it doesn't display anything accept loaded dvds (you can't interface well with other media content, can't setup a prefered player like VLC, etc.
To succeed, iTV MUST:
--handle HD content
--stream ANY format of media content (or at least the standard video formats) and not just iTunes
[....]

iTunes will happily play anything quicktime will. Drag a quicktime movie into iTunes, you can play it. Doesn't have to be a downloaded iTunes purchased movie at all. I don't know what the iTV will/won't do exactly, but front row can play anything quicktime can too, can't it?

I just dragged a HD trailer (1080) in, and iTunes played it fullscreen... so I wouldn't worry.

BoyBach
Jan 6, 2007, 03:40 PM
also notice that there is a bit more light shining around the left side of the apple, could this mean anything!!! :eek: :D


It means that the Apple phone is being released on Tuesday! ;)

Machead III
Jan 6, 2007, 03:40 PM
Is this for Macworld? Or just rumor?

From Czech website...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6167/imacmedresjs7.jpg

greenchester
Jan 6, 2007, 03:45 PM
... If you look at the pic properly (fake or not) you will see its above the door to be viewed on the way out the building.

Actually that banner is what you see whne you ENTER Moscone. The trade show floor is underground so you take the escalators down to MacWorld

Deestar
Jan 6, 2007, 03:57 PM
Not sure if this has already been mentioned on this forum, CES 2007 in Las Vagas is on around the same time as Macworld. If you do a search on the CES Exhibitor directory for Apple it looks like they have a stand space (69430A).

https://myces2007.bdmetrics.com/Portal/ViewCompany.aspx?id=2524313

The weird thing is that the address listed is not Apple's address:

901 Mariners Island Blvd., Suite 300
San Mateo, CA 94404
United States

A Google search reveals that its an address for Slingmedia, I wonder if this is a mistake or has Apple purchased Slingmedia and their technology for use in the iTV.

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/contactUs.html

hyperpasta
Jan 6, 2007, 04:05 PM
Not sure if this has already been mentioned on this forum, CES 2007 in Las Vagas is on around the same time as Macworld. If you do a search on the CES Exhibitor directory for Apple it looks like they have a stand space (69430A).

https://myces2007.bdmetrics.com/Portal/ViewCompany.aspx?id=2524313

The weird thing is that the address listed is not Apple's address:

901 Mariners Island Blvd., Suite 300
San Mateo, CA 94404
United States

A Google search reveals that its an address for Slingmedia, I wonder if this is a mistake or has Apple purchased Slingmedia and their technology for use in the iTV.

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/contactUs.html

Wow! Good catch. That's odd...

Goldfinger
Jan 6, 2007, 04:07 PM
Wow! Good catch. That's odd...
Wow! Very interesting.

eenu
Jan 6, 2007, 04:14 PM
Not sure if this has already been mentioned on this forum, CES 2007 in Las Vagas is on around the same time as Macworld. If you do a search on the CES Exhibitor directory for Apple it looks like they have a stand space (69430A).

https://myces2007.bdmetrics.com/Portal/ViewCompany.aspx?id=2524313

The weird thing is that the address listed is not Apple's address:

901 Mariners Island Blvd., Suite 300
San Mateo, CA 94404
United States

A Google search reveals that its an address for Slingmedia, I wonder if this is a mistake or has Apple purchased Slingmedia and their technology for use in the iTV.

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/contactUs.html

Interesting given one of their partners is Microsoft!

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/pg_80.html

Maybe its basis on windows media technologies may dispel that myth?

Having said that an OSX version is in Beta

Yvan256
Jan 6, 2007, 04:28 PM
Wait a minute, Bell and Videotron both have Personal Video Recorders.

I'm with neither of them. And besides, the DVRs offered by Bell, Videotron and Cogeco are all at least twice as expensive as the iTV is going to be. And Cogeco, the provider I'm with, won't allow outside DVRs on their digital cable network.

Granted, the iTV probably won't be a DVR, but I'm mostly looking forward to having a jukebox for my DVDs ripped to H264/AAC, and then later on ditching cable altogether (or going with a "basic channels" package) and getting my specialized shows from the iTunes Store (Battlestar Galactica, etc).

Bonte
Jan 6, 2007, 04:29 PM
at first the UK site still had the macbook splash page, then changed to the 2007 banner for about a day, and has now changed back to the usual macbook splash image.

hm, maybe a sign the new stuff will be US only :(

Mr Ikasu
Jan 6, 2007, 04:36 PM
Not sure if this has already been mentioned on this forum, CES 2007 in Las Vagas is on around the same time as Macworld. If you do a search on the CES Exhibitor directory for Apple it looks like they have a stand space (69430A).

https://myces2007.bdmetrics.com/Portal/ViewCompany.aspx?id=2524313

The weird thing is that the address listed is not Apple's address:

901 Mariners Island Blvd., Suite 300
San Mateo, CA 94404
United States

A Google search reveals that its an address for Slingmedia, I wonder if this is a mistake or has Apple purchased Slingmedia and their technology for use in the iTV.

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/contactUs.html

Either a publicity stunt by SlingMedia or something very significant.

If some kind of a collaboration was true it surely makes the iPhone more likely as it would need something mobile to stream to (one of the main points of Slings product I believe)

Interesting...

paulyras
Jan 6, 2007, 04:38 PM
I think it would be great to be able to use iTV as a remote Mac desktop as well, so one could use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to be able to use it for web browsing and other simple computer type stuff. I can see the argument that it would cannibalize mac sales, but if you were to make that a mac only feature, it's one more reason for people to buy a mac- You effectively get another computer for your living room for $299

PS- Anyone know what the intended use is for the USB port?

thestaton
Jan 6, 2007, 04:38 PM
I am hoping the iTV will be successful, however they will need to drastically improve the content coming from the iTunes store. If you tried to watch a iTunes movie on your 60" HD its going to look about the same as a VHS.

Got my fingers crossed for something awesome.

Porchland
Jan 6, 2007, 04:53 PM
yes, but the point is that iTV is not reported to steam "ALL YOUR MEDIA," but only iTunes media!
That's a HUGE difference! If iTV indeed only steams iTunes media (iTunes downloaded content), then it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

There's nothing quite like the taste of steamed media!

Clive At Five
Jan 6, 2007, 04:53 PM
I think it would be great to be able to use iTV as a remote Mac desktop as well, so one could use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to be able to use it for web browsing and other simple computer type stuff. I can see the argument that it would cannibalize mac sales, but if you were to make that a mac only feature, it's one more reason for people to buy a mac- You effectively get another computer for your living room for $299

PS- Anyone know what the intended use is for the USB port?

No, please, no! Web TV died for a reason. No one wants to combine television and computing.

-Clive

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 05:05 PM
Can't tell if you are joking, but if not, then look at the image that started this thread. This is a pretty good tongue in cheek rendition in my opinion.

funny, but lousy rendition in my opinion. Maybe its just that i think, i could do it better.

bilbo--baggins
Jan 6, 2007, 05:05 PM
umm.. isn't the bad photoshopping half the point of the joke?

Bad photoshopping? It's real, it's the latest innovation having an escalator inside a lift (elevator). They're in all the shopping malls here in the UK.

WilliamLondon
Jan 6, 2007, 05:06 PM
Granted, the iTV probably won't be a DVR, but I'm mostly looking forward to having a jukebox for my DVDs ripped to H264/AAC, and then later on ditching cable altogether (or going with a "basic channels" package) and getting my specialized shows from the iTunes Store (Battlestar Galactica, etc).

Amen, but don't forget bittorrent as a source.

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 05:07 PM
Because it already exists!
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/bonjourforwindows.html
This has been around for a long time.

OOPs i guess i meant ichat for windows, when i was responding to the person.
thanks for the corrrection.

natejohnstone@g
Jan 6, 2007, 05:12 PM
iTunes will happily play anything quicktime will. Drag a quicktime movie into iTunes, you can play it. Doesn't have to be a downloaded iTunes purchased movie at all. I don't know what the iTV will/won't do exactly, but front row can play anything quicktime can too, can't it?

I just dragged a HD trailer (1080) in, and iTunes played it fullscreen... so I wouldn't worry.


Even if iTV does play anything that Quicktime can play, most of my video files won't play in Quicktime (mostly TV shows). If they make iTunes to work with VLC, that would ROCK because VLC plays anything whereas Quicktime does not play a lot of things.

xenotaku
Jan 6, 2007, 05:18 PM
Even if iTV does play anything that Quicktime can play, most of my video files won't play in Quicktime (mostly TV shows). If they make iTunes to work with VLC, that would ROCK because VLC plays anything whereas Quicktime does not play a lot of things.

Yeh...VLC owns Quicktime. And again...iTV with no DVR feature is a waste of money. Buy a damn cable and just plug your ipod into your tv!

coreaudio
Jan 6, 2007, 05:26 PM
Even if iTV does play anything that Quicktime can play, most of my video files won't play in Quicktime (mostly TV shows). If they make iTunes to work with VLC, that would ROCK because VLC plays anything whereas Quicktime does not play a lot of things.

I'm hoping they'll get smart, I've been looking for a set top player for my vids as well... if it plays divx then itv will be first on my shopping list this year.

paulyras
Jan 6, 2007, 05:27 PM
No, please, no! Web TV died for a reason. No one wants to combine television and computing.

-Clive

Haha. Fair.

I still think that things have changed though since WebTV. TVs themselves are fundamentally different than they were back then. The intended audience for this will have HD TVs capable of actually displaying web content reasonably. The web has also changed, with more multimedia content and a lot more legitimate entertainment.

I've had my Mini attached to my 50 inch HDTV for almost a year now, and while I don't use it day in and day out, it's great when I just want to check the weather or show someone something from you tube etc...

Just my perspective. I don't think it would take that much more work to allow it to view a mac desktop though, but it would make the product more complex to use than a pure media streaming box.

Porco
Jan 6, 2007, 05:30 PM
Even if iTV does play anything that Quicktime can play, most of my video files won't play in Quicktime (mostly TV shows). If they make iTunes to work with VLC, that would ROCK because VLC plays anything whereas Quicktime does not play a lot of things.

That's a fair point, but there are lots of very easy solutions for converting non-Quicktime files to Quicktime files.

w00master
Jan 6, 2007, 05:31 PM
Haha. Fair.

I still think that things have changed though since WebTV. TVs themselves are fundamentally different than they were back then. The intended audience for this will have HD TVs capable of actually displaying web content reasonably. The web has also changed, with more multimedia content and a lot more legitimate entertainment.

I've had my Mini attached to my 50 inch HDTV for almost a year now, and while I don't use it day in and day out, it's great when I just want to check the weather or show someone something from you tube etc...

Just my perspective. I don't think it would take that much more work to allow it to view a mac desktop though, but it would make the product more complex to use than a pure media streaming box.

Much as this is a "cool" idea, you have to think of iTV beyond the mac. In other words, iTV will *also* be for Windows users, and frankly I *can't* see remote desktop for Windows as a feature of iTV.

w00master

Goldfinger
Jan 6, 2007, 05:45 PM
Granted, the iTV probably won't be a DVR, but I'm mostly looking forward to having a jukebox for my DVDs ripped to H264/AAC

The iTV would need Dolby Digital and DTS support. Something Quicktime lacks right now.

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 05:47 PM
thats what I have been saying all along! Why the hell do I want something that streams only low quality crap from iTunes to my HDtv?

AHH... But, maybe it won't be low quality after all. maybe itunes will have hd stuff available. Think for a sec. If they introduces a widescreen ipod, they would be smart to at least, make it an option for a higher resolution widescreen video on itunes. U agree?

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 05:49 PM
Seems iTunes has a new pre-release movie available Jan 9th and it's not from Disney. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448075/companycredits)
Click on movies>coming soon in iTunes.

miramax is disney

Dagless
Jan 6, 2007, 06:00 PM
This needs a DVD Player built in. Though our SkyTV subscription runs out in a few months and seeing it's nothing but crap these days I think an iTV will make a nice replacement.

Wii, iTV and the DVD recorder under the TV would be a lovely little setup.

Peace
Jan 6, 2007, 06:04 PM
I think it would be great to be able to use iTV as a remote Mac desktop as well, so one could use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to be able to use it for web browsing and other simple computer type stuff. I can see the argument that it would cannibalize mac sales, but if you were to make that a mac only feature, it's one more reason for people to buy a mac- You effectively get another computer for your living room for $299

PS- Anyone know what the intended use is for the USB port?

Not sure if the USB port is there for this reason alone but I do know ALL new cable/satellite boxes are required to have USB or firewire or ethernet ports on them according to new FCC regulations.

eenu
Jan 6, 2007, 06:05 PM
PS- Anyone know what the intended use is for the USB port?

Probably USB pendrives so you can display photos or connect a card reader to it to do the same......or a keyboard etc etc

The possibilities are endless.......how about a USB external drive with some movies and pictures on....

WilliamLondon
Jan 6, 2007, 06:15 PM
This needs a DVD Player built in. Though our SkyTV subscription runs out in a few months and seeing it's nothing but crap these days I think an iTV will make a nice replacement.

Wii, iTV and the DVD recorder under the TV would be a lovely little setup.

You had me until the DVD recorder. What do you need a DVD recorder for? Just curious here. My cunning plan (far from ideal I'm sure) is to replace my cable set top box with something like an Elgato device at the computer and use my computer for all recording - that way the media sits on the computer and can be beamed to my television on demand, and the television is only tethered to a mains power source.

eenu
Jan 6, 2007, 06:23 PM
i might be wrong but i think he already has a DVD recorder?

This is why he states the 'iTV' as a seperate device to the DVD Recorder in his post

Compile 'em all
Jan 6, 2007, 06:35 PM
I'm hoping they'll get smart, I've been looking for a set top player for my vids as well... if it plays divx then itv will be first on my shopping list this year.

Agreed on the divx part. If iTV plays only formats that quicktime can, I won't buy it. Let's hope that the platform powering the iTV is open enough for homebrew and hacks.

Porco
Jan 6, 2007, 06:41 PM
Agreed on the divx part. If iTV plays only formats that quicktime can, I won't buy it. Let's hope that the platform powering the iTV is open enough for homebrew and hacks.

um.. you can play DivX in Quicktime.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030825045710515

slb
Jan 6, 2007, 06:50 PM
Is it me or do the sides of the elevator looked warped? Looks real though! Although suspiciously not grainy enough...

How many people are going to reply to the elevator pic without reading the thread and recognizing it as a joke?

Rocketman
Jan 6, 2007, 06:55 PM
The simple fact this thread constitutes so much controversy and speculation rather than fact and reporting, means Apple is up to something.

Macworld-Ho!

Rocketman

k2k koos
Jan 6, 2007, 07:14 PM
at first the UK site still had the macbook splash page, then changed to the 2007 banner for about a day, and has now changed back to the usual macbook splash image.

Apple UK has to sort it out and be consistent with the US site more often. It is not updated with stories, articles, etc enough. I'm sick and tired of the Macbook advertising on there, getting a little long in the tooth. Why can't we run the I'm a Mac adverts on these sites, it would work great as it has in the US! But no action whatsoever. A campaign like that is desperately needed in the EU, but I fear that Vista will take the honors there, and a lot of the previous adds may not be as relevant anymore...... I hope I am wrong...

eenu
Jan 6, 2007, 07:56 PM
k2k koos.....

we had the 'get a mac' adverts on the UK site when they were released on the US site!

The only difference between the UK and US site is that the UK keeps the different features up for less time than the US one

chubad
Jan 6, 2007, 07:59 PM
OK. We're getting close. Where are the elevator spyshots? The Photoshop fakes? Come on people let's get with the program!;)

rtdunham
Jan 6, 2007, 08:17 PM
sorry, but that is the worst doctored image, i have ever seen. you are an amateur.

Bad photoshopping? It's real, it's the latest innovation having an escalator inside a lift (elevator). They're in all the shopping malls here in the UK.

i can attest to that. I was in London two weeks ago and took the lift escalators in two different locations. :eek:

gotmac1
Jan 6, 2007, 08:51 PM
Has everybody seen this? I didn't see it in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pIt0lzUrag&eurl=

Willis
Jan 6, 2007, 09:08 PM
Has everybody seen this? I didn't see it in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pIt0lzUrag&eurl=

interesting... very... .mac needs to come down in price and/or increase capacity

theROZ
Jan 6, 2007, 09:26 PM
where are all the scoops...where is this year's IHOME video...there seems to be no leaks of photos or TIME magazine articles or Apple insider mock-ups....WTF....where's the beef....

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 09:34 PM
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/apple-keynote-2007-whatre-the-odds-226271.php

I couldn't have made my predictions any more clear, than they did on gizmodo. smartest roundup I have seen. check it out, and tell me what ya think.

Xyl
Jan 6, 2007, 09:39 PM
This has been a great year for Apple, and we're making it even better with the second generation of iPod Socks.

Probably USB pendrives so you can display photos or connect a card reader to it to do the same......or a keyboard etc etc

The possibilities are endless.......how about a USB external drive with some movies and pictures on....


I think it's for an iSight :eek:

Martin C
Jan 6, 2007, 09:56 PM
The banner is real guys...incase anybody was unsure about it's legitimacy.

Link to more banner photos inside Moscone:
http://www.setteb.it/content/view/1422/2/

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1212/mwsf07outsabato07nj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 09:58 PM
http://www.mobileguerilla.com/articles/2007/01/06/apple-phone-fake-photos.php
Will somebody tell me why a new ipod couldn't have wifi and ichat av, and that this pic has to be an iphone? (not that i think any ipod coming, would have ichat, but the form factor of that pic looks more like an ipod, than a phone.)

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 10:00 PM
The banner is real guys...incase anybody was unsure about it's legitimacy.

Link to more banner photos inside Moscone:
http://www.setteb.it/content/view/1422/2/

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1212/mwsf07outsabato07nj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i think that image on apples website has more than a little to do with macworld. lol

psionic001
Jan 6, 2007, 10:12 PM
OK. We're getting close. Where are the elevator spyshots? The Photoshop fakes? Come on people let's get with the program!;)

I can confirm the elevator shot is real! I snapped this same angle whilst watching people being rescued from the round glass elevator when it broke down.

http://www.psionic.com.au/OMG2.0.jpg

know-it-all5
Jan 6, 2007, 10:15 PM
I can confirm the elevator shot is real! I snapped this same angle whilst watching people being rescued from the round glass elevator when it broke down.

http://www.psionic.com.au/OMG2.0.jpg

Now that takes pure genious. BTW, also quite funny.

chubad
Jan 6, 2007, 10:44 PM
That thing broke again? I'm not setting foot in that thing.:p

blurtigo
Jan 7, 2007, 02:47 AM
iTV as it stands doesn't seem too revolutionary, but as it was just a 'sneak-peak' I don't think they told us the whole story.

Wouldn't it be more revolutionary if iTV was all about the 'virtual' purchasing of music/video/films?

The content you buy from the iTunes store is stored remotely instead of locally (on the conveniently increased 30GB iDisk for example), and the iTV streams this content to your TV/HI-FI. The only thing limiting the expansion of online delivery of media is the people who don't want to bother with a PC/Mac in the first place.

With this system in place, the iTV wouldn't need a PC/Mac. Although you could obviously stream locally from your computer as well if you wanted to.

Bonte
Jan 7, 2007, 04:18 AM
Nice thought but .Mac needs a big speed update for this to work, always been to slow to do any serious work. If i can add a USB hard disk directly to iTV i'm more than happy to do away with the mediahub-Mini that i currently use.

Evangelion
Jan 7, 2007, 04:58 AM
TVs themselves are fundamentally different than they were back then.

they are fundamentally same now than they were back when they were invented. we have flat-screen tv's, hdtv, color and the lik, but tv's are still the same back when they were back and white. we have had technological progress in the equipment and so forth, but the paradigm has not changed one bit.

hdtv, remote controls or flat-screen tv's do not "fundamentally change" television. or are you talking about television-sets or television as a concept?

MacsAttack
Jan 7, 2007, 05:23 AM
PS- Anyone know what the intended use is for the USB port?

So your friends can come around with their iPods and you can all watch the videos/photogrpah collection/whatever they have on it. A perfect solution the the fact that you can't "share' purchased videos or music.

At a wild guess.

iTV is clearly intended too leverage Apple's iPod/iTunes.

Project
Jan 7, 2007, 05:27 AM
Have you dudes seen the Leopard preview page in slow mo? Check the 'light' behind the X...exactly the same kind of concept as the apple.com and macworld images

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/348831666_fbdd045ee3_o.png



The X always gives an indication of function or UI (think the blue jelly of earlier OSX or the 'spotlight' on Tigers X)

Illuminous?

Xmas is coming!

iEdd
Jan 7, 2007, 05:30 AM
To the comments regarding 'just connect your iPod', my understanding was that iPod only supported composite video at 480p (or maybe only i), wheras you can have component and HDMI with iTV (up to 1080p). I'd imagine with iPod you can have stereo and with iTV you'd get at least 5.1 optical out. As well as the fact iTV sounds like it's the 'video airport express', in which case it could boost your existing wireless connection as well [here's to hoping].
A digital HD tuner built in and hard drive *would* be nice, but it would probably cost a mint.

CrackedButter
Jan 7, 2007, 05:53 AM
umm.. isn't the bad photoshopping half the point of the joke?

Is it? I was commentating against all the people who were talking about the poor photoshopping.

Sped
Jan 7, 2007, 09:45 AM
Inadvertant tab and return. Sorry.

Sped
Jan 7, 2007, 09:48 AM
Although I realize most of this forum has been discussing photoshop, I have a question about iTV's functionality. Will it replace or augment my Airport Express? In other words, could I create a wireless network with only an iTV?

OdduWon
Jan 7, 2007, 10:06 AM
it is true. the Banner is 16:9. Perhaps there IS a HD connection.
the iTv interface has a real "Movie theater" feel to it as well, which i believe is being expressed in the banner as a "apple has YOU Frontrow at their movie theater" interpretation.

from the light from behind the apple, this maybe a hint at "Illuminess". The light from behind in the menus of iTv could be what we will see in leopard.Would be cool to be able to choose the luminous color and set it's intensity, perhaps core animation will provide this, and more fluid visuals like the cover browse.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/odduwon/Picture12.png

KindredMAC
Jan 7, 2007, 11:22 AM
Have you dudes seen the Leopard preview page in slow mo? Check the 'light' behind the X...exactly the same kind of concept as the apple.com and macworld images

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/348831666_fbdd045ee3_o.png



The X always gives an indication of function or UI (think the blue jelly of earlier OSX or the 'spotlight' on Tigers X)

Illuminous?

Xmas is coming!
Not to sound like a smart ass or anything, but it's just a simple lens flare.

Goldfinger
Jan 7, 2007, 11:50 AM
Could the iTV actually be a modded Slingcatcher ? Considering the coincidence thing with Apple/Slingshot at CES.

Just a thought.

crees!
Jan 7, 2007, 12:15 PM
it is true. the Banner is 16:9. Perhaps there IS a HD connection.
the iTv interface has a real "Movie theater" feel to it as well, which i believe is being expressed in the banner as a "apple has YOU Frontrow at their movie theater" interpretation.

from the light from behind the apple, this maybe a hint at "Illuminess". The light from behind in the menus of iTv could be what we will see in leopard.Would be cool to be able to choose the luminous color and set it's intensity, perhaps core animation will provide this, and more fluid visuals like the cover browse.

You guys are TOTALLY reading into this and everything else too far. Take a break and step out side, or at least pull back the curtains and get some light in.

Project
Jan 7, 2007, 12:16 PM
Not to sound like a smart ass or anything, but it's just a simple lens flare.


Thats kind of the point.

brsboarder
Jan 7, 2007, 03:06 PM
Im confused, when was the last time steve blew our minds? Ipod nano, just a revamped ipod, same with the ipod video, simply getting up with the times, all other mp3 players at the time were able to do the same things. The move to intel? the same thing, joining the bandwagon of dell etc who placed their money correctly. So, I think we need an incredible itv and at least 1 of the two ipod true video or phone. Otherwise, its just the same stuff

MajorMacRant
Jan 7, 2007, 04:36 PM
But you're missing the point. Your Mac is the Media Center. iTV is simple a device to allow all your media on your Mac to be displayed. The last thing Apple is going to do is build the iTV into another computer when we all have our Macs already. Keep the iTV as simple as possible to wirelessly display all your content on the TV.

I started out a proponent of the "add a DVR to the iTV" concept, but I've since come over to your way of thinking. I do want to see the iTV be "platform neutral", however -- capable of working well on both Windows and Mac platforms. The key, I think, is iTunes. I believe the iTV will take whatever iTunes will feed it, on whatever platform. If you can get it into iTunes, you can use it.

I own an HP Media Center PC -- first PC I've ever owned, in fact. I needed it to be work compatible (purchased a few weeks before the Intel Mac announcements -- so much for my sense of timing), so I decided if I'm gonna buy a PC, it may as well be kept busy the 99 percent of the time when I'm working on my Mac instead. It is not a bad little DVR platform. MyTVtoGo software plugin for Media Center brings this content to iTunes for me. I'm counting on iTV to bridge the gap to the TV set.

I think Apple will do the iTV right -- out-of-the-box operational and trouble-free. This was not my experience with the Linksys Media Center Extender I bought. It never worked once. (Man, I should have sold that last week on eBay. After Tuesday, who on Earth would want one?)

The trick will be to expand what iTunes will do, especially on the Windows side of things. The iTunes podcast subscription model and the iPod Games are great "proofs of concept" that iTunes can be a delivery system for just about anything. If Apple could partner (for example) with Google to bring YouTube's content to your home TV via iTV and to your pocket via the iPod, it could be a pretty sweet deal. An independent on-demand video service with original content would be even better. Apple's massive iPod market share makes that a possibility.

liberty4all
Jan 7, 2007, 10:43 PM
How in the world did Apple miss the boat on HANA (The High-Definition Audio-Video Network Alliance) compatibility -- Apple, the company that invented FireWire even!! HANA is one of the next big things in AV/HD integration -- how could Apple overlook this?

See:
http://www.hanaalliance.org/

sjk
Jan 7, 2007, 11:27 PM
Will it replace or augment my Airport Express? In other words, could I create a wireless network with only an iTV?
That's still unknown until the final product specifications are announced.

natejohnstone@g
Jan 8, 2007, 01:48 AM
Oh, as if the D-Link system I already posted wasn't enough, here's the new SlighCatcher, just announced;
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9672057-1.html?tag=cnetfd.mt

It's basically iTV for less than $200.

We'll see which is better. I'm not a fanboy who'll spend an extra $100 just because there's an apple on it, so iTV will have to sell me that it's better than the rest.

MacinDoc
Jan 8, 2007, 12:51 PM
The iTV will come with software to give it Tivo-like function, so you can record TV content to your Mac and later stream it to your TV. Or you can stream content from iTunes.

Perhaps the configuration of the box will also be altered to allow docking of your iPod Video (remember, Apple is about vertical integration). Remember the rumored Mac Mini with built-in dock? Maybe that was actually the iTV.

Of course, this is just rumor and speculation, and any resemblance to to the truth is pure coincidence...