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MrMacMan
May 13, 2003, 09:39 PM
Its a simple question, all of the last 100 films have been leaked before hand, even Star Wars attack of the clones, which they had like a security team escort...

There have been like no plot summaries, almost no critics have seen it, what gives?
What did they use to stop people from getting it?

why does this work?

I don't want a Discussion on how/where the others were leaked, remember no piracy!

Computer_Phreak
May 13, 2003, 09:49 PM
i believe the actual script was leaked...

but i havent seen the movie on P2P yet

Flowbee
May 13, 2003, 09:52 PM
If you want to see advance reviews, check out: http://www.aintitcoolnews.com

Beware of spoilers!

MrMacMan
May 13, 2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Flowbee
If you want to see advance reviews, check out: http://www.aintitcoolnews.com

Beware of spoilers!
I've read it, but it contradicts something said by another 'spoiler' so I don't think either know what they are taking about.

Normally when you see a movie you have the same plot... :eek:

BrittasMac
May 13, 2003, 10:02 PM
It has been leaked. In fact it was leaked about 4 days ago.

scem0
May 13, 2003, 10:03 PM
It is because the Wichousky brothers kept the tightest security possible, so people wouldn't know what it was about, and would jump to see it, I think. Just a little propoganda. :)

Flowbee
May 13, 2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
I've read it, but it contradicts something said by another 'spoiler' so I don't think either know what they are taking about.

Normally when you see a movie you have the same plot... :eek:

I'm not reading anything until I after I see it (7:45 Friday night).

iJon
May 13, 2003, 10:15 PM
it has been leaked and my friend has it. i checked it out for a little while but refused to watch it because im seeing it in the theaters. i also have the leaked script, but i also read that they leaked out 4 fake scripts but more than likely i have the fake, but i dont care. i also have a "suppose to be" leaked trailer for matrix revolutions. i have never seen the footage in any of the other matrix trailers so it could be real. there is one thing in the trailer that contradicts it self so im not sure. i would say it but i dont want to ruin the movie for the others. im gonna show the trailer to my friend who has seen reloaded and im gonna see if he has seen this footage. ill let you guys know how it goes tomorrow. if you guys dont care about the movie and you want to ruin a big part of the movie just email me or something or talk to me on aim.

iJon

Phil Of Mac
May 13, 2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by iJon
it has been leaked and my friend has it. i checked it out for a little while but refused to watch it because im seeing it in the theaters. i also have the leaked script, but i also read that they leaked out 4 fake scripts but more than likely i have the fake, but i dont care.

In reality, they also leaked out 4 fake movies :)

I had a dream about the movie. I dreamt the movie began with Morpheus taking an Asian guy through a large building. So it was probably not consistent with the actual film :)

iJon
May 13, 2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
In reality, they also leaked out 4 fake movies :)

I had a dream about the movie. I dreamt the movie began with Morpheus taking an Asian guy through a large building. So it was probably not consistent with the actual film :)
haha where did you read that. that is so awesome if they released tons of fakes, i would do the same thing, i would load kazaa up wth all kinds of fake s***

iJon

mymemory
May 13, 2003, 11:01 PM
I do not want to know anything about the movie until I see it.

The first time it came out there were no trailers, nothing, I saw the title and went in to the theather, I was so shocked! my life before and after. The movie got popular 2 weeks after that because of word of mouth, no a single promo, nothing! until it was so big that a month after the promos started. I think it was avery good merchandising technique, the movie is way too good and no need even trailers.

Phil Of Mac
May 13, 2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by iJon
haha where did you read that. that is so awesome if they released tons of fakes, i would do the same thing, i would load kazaa up wth all kinds of fake s***


Actually, I made it up, but it wouldn't surprise me.

rainman::|:|
May 14, 2003, 12:28 AM
i heard some magazine reviewed it and spoiled the whole thing. I'm waiting on all spoilers as i'm seeing it 10:00 tomorrow night... special showing... sounds illegal, but i'll take it. it's not supposed to be shown until they day after tomorrow.

pnw

davy the bunny
May 15, 2003, 01:48 PM
the movie's official release is on the 15th but 2000 theaters in the US were allowed to show it at 10PM local time on Wednesday, so no legal worries. And I had the first 200 MB of it downloaded to my comp but didn't want to watch it until I got it all and that was about a week ago ( I can't be sure). If you couldn't find it in the gnutella you should try Kazaa, you can use Neo (http://sourceforge.net/projects/neoclient) if you don't have it.

MacFan25
May 15, 2003, 04:10 PM
i haven't seen it yet. i have only seen parts of the first one. but, i think that i may rent the first one, to see all of it.

ColoJohnBoy
May 15, 2003, 04:32 PM
I don't know why it hasn't leaked yet, and frankly I'm not all that bothered. I prefer to see movies of that sort on a big screen; in fact, I'm waiting two weeks for the IMAX release of Reloaded before I see it.

Now, if LOTR: ROTK leaks before it's released, I won't give a rat's ass, and download it as soon as possible. The running time for that will be 4 hours, 20 minutes. Mind-blowing! Oh yes, and from all the rumors going around, it sounds like Sauron will be making a personal appearance at the Battle of the Black Gate!

iJon
May 15, 2003, 04:34 PM
well the copy that is floating around is in telesync and is terrible quality and the sound is horrid. there are just some movies that should be seen in the theaters, and this is one of them.

iJon

Wardofsky
May 15, 2003, 08:54 PM
The Australian press release version on the movie which was on Wednesday (A day before actual public screening) was strict on security.
You had to sign a non-disclosure aggreement, you were frisked for any recording devices and if you did they were permanently confiscated.

wdlove
May 17, 2003, 11:26 AM
I just viewed the trailer this morning and thougtht it was powerful. A friend of mine that's like a sister went to see "Matrix Reloaded" last night. I'm anxious to hear her review!

peterjhill
May 17, 2003, 02:00 PM
There is a version available on Bittorrent. It is camera shot, the quality isn't great for special effects, but not bad for trying to figure things out.

For instance, after the first fight, Agent Smith says "That went as expected" and then the other says, "Yes, It is happening exactly as before" to which the other replies "Well, not exactly"

This did not stick with me the first time I saw the movie, but on the second run, it says that things are different this time in the matrix, and the end might not be the same as the last time.

bennetsaysargh
May 17, 2003, 02:52 PM
im not looking at any spoilers, and telling everyone not to talk about it in fromt of me untill i see it. most likely next weekend:D

bootlegs online are horrible quality and sound. it echos, and when you try to watch it full screen, there is sometimes a slight miss-sync between the video and the audio. never dpwnloading another movie online again. unless if it's a leaked harry potter:D

iJon
May 17, 2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
im not looking at any spoilers, and telling everyone not to talk about it in fromt of me untill i see it. most likely next weekend:D

bootlegs online are horrible quality and sound. it echos, and when you try to watch it full screen, there is sometimes a slight miss-sync between the video and the audio. never dpwnloading another movie online again. unless if it's a leaked harry potter:D
i hardly ever download movies. last movie i downloaded was better luck tomorrow. that was just because it didnt come to my town, it was ok quality, it as vcd screener version. the best luck ive had with a movie is when i downloaded the two towers. it was 3.2gb and was a full dvd rip, i couldnt tell the difference between it and a dvd.

iJon

bennetsaysargh
May 17, 2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by iJon
i hardly ever download movies. last movie i downloaded was better luck tomorrow. that was just because it didnt come to my town, it was ok quality, it as vcd screener version. the best luck ive had with a movie is when i downloaded the two towers. it was 3.2gb and was a full dvd rip, i couldnt tell the difference between it and a dvd.

iJon

where do you get these from? P2P? or sites?

iJon
May 17, 2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
where do you get these from? P2P? or sites?
carracho, talked to him, became friends, gave me an account and i downloaded it. he had it capped at 12k so it took about a week.

iJon

Phil Of Mac
May 17, 2003, 04:07 PM
I think people who download movies should at least have the courage to sneak into a theater, or shoplift the DVD.

Just like people who download music should have the courage to shoplift the CD :)

iJon
May 17, 2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I think people who download movies should at least have the courage to sneak into a theater, or shoplift the DVD.

Just like people who download music should have the courage to shoplift the CD :)
that would be dumb, thats just asking to get caught. the only movies i download are the ones i see in theaters, i never download a movie to watch it. i like to watch the movie again to catch anything i missed, the quality isnt good enough for me to go see the movies. better luck tomorrow was an exception because it wasnt playing anywhere near me, but i liked the movie and ill go buy it on dvd (not shoplift like you insist)

iJon

wdlove
May 17, 2003, 04:43 PM
My understanding is that it is difficult to download a DVD, with greater difficulty than a CD. I tried to dowload music one time from the now defunct Napster, couldn't even figure out how to download the needed software. My thought was that you would need to be a computer geek/wizard before being successful. One I did see at a relatives quite a while ago was of poor qualtiy! :(

Phil Of Mac
May 17, 2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by iJon
that would be dumb, thats just asking to get caught. the only movies i download are the ones i see in theaters, i never download a movie to watch it. i like to watch the movie again to catch anything i missed, the quality isnt good enough for me to go see the movies. better luck tomorrow was an exception because it wasnt playing anywhere near me, but i liked the movie and ill go buy it on dvd (not shoplift like you insist)

iJon

You're missing my point.

If you're going to steal movies, then have the courage to steal movies where you might at least get caught! Otherwise, you're a coward.

iJon
May 17, 2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
You're missing my point.

If you're going to steal movies, then have the courage to steal movies where you might at least get caught! Otherwise, you're a coward.
so is like saying im a coward if i only speed on open county roads instead of in front of the police station.

iJon

Phil Of Mac
May 17, 2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by iJon
so is like saying im a coward if i only speed on open county roads instead of in front of the police station.

Speeding really doesn't hurt anyone other than yourself unless other people are around. And I just about killed myself in an auto accident yesterday, speeding, so that's a bad example at the moment.

My point was, downloading movies or music is theft, and if you're going to commit theft, at least have the same sense of honor, i.e., only thieving when there is a chance you'll be caught, thus necessitating actual skill, and making the entire endavour more sporting. Stealing music off the internet is like going to a prostitute: there's no challenge to it!

iJon
May 17, 2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Speeding really doesn't hurt anyone other than yourself unless other people are around. And I just about killed myself in an auto accident yesterday, speeding, so that's a bad example at the moment.

My point was, downloading movies or music is theft, and if you're going to commit theft, at least have the same sense of honor, i.e., only thieving when there is a chance you'll be caught, thus necessitating actual skill, and making the entire endavour more sporting. Stealing music off the internet is like going to a prostitute: there's no challenge to it!
oh, since speeding doesnt hurt anyone its ok, i gotcha. i dont want a challenge when i download music, i want to listen to music. im not looking for an adventure. if i want to steal with an adventure ill go play theif 2 on my pc.

iJon

Phil Of Mac
May 17, 2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by iJon
i want a challenge when i download music, i want to listen to music. im not looking for an adventure. if i want to steal with an adventure ill go play theif 2 on my pc.

iJon

It's like shooting someone in the back. If you're gonna kill someone, have the honor to kill him in a fair fight. If you're gonna steal music, have the honor to shoplift it like a real man, not download it like some coward.

[edited...watch it]

iJon
May 17, 2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
No, you idiot. It's like shooting someone in the back. If you're gonna kill someone, have the honor to kill him in a fair fight. If you're gonna steal music, have the honor to shoplift it like a real man, not download it like some coward.
well if your gonna speed dont be a coward and go it right next to a police car or the police station. hell just outrun the cop when he flips on his lights, there is an adventure.

iJon

MrMacMan
May 17, 2003, 08:41 PM
Bah, will you too stop bickering!

Go PM or IM each other and fight it out.

Anyway, no one wants to steal literally. Anyway, who has the movies in their hands before and while they are in theaters, not many people I must tell you. Its like saying 'if you want to steal properly atleast give them evidence, and motive linking you to stealing something' *conan's eye squint*
Stealing is bad overall, yes it is, but no one is literally 'stealing' the dvd/tape of the movie, at best you get a screener.

Phil Of Mac
May 17, 2003, 09:05 PM
I think iJon is overanalyzing what I meant as a throw-away comment, and I think I'm putting far too much energy in explaining it. My main point was that there's no moral difference between shoplifting and pirating from P2P networks. My comment after that was that at least shoplifters aren't under any illusions about what they're doing and that they're showing significantly more courage than the cowards who use P2P networks. iJon just wants to start a fight to get his post count up.