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zimv20
Jan 15, 2007, 03:57 PM
guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1989397,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1)


As 20,000 more US troops head for Iraq, Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, the only correspondent reporting regularly from behind the country's sectarian battle lines, reveals how the Sunni insurgency has changed

One morning a few weeks ago I sat in a car talking to Rami, a thick-necked former Republican Guard commando who now procures arms for his fellow Sunni insurgents.
Rami was explaining how the insurgency had changed since the first heady days after the US invasion. "I used to attack the Americans when that was the jihad. Now there is no jihad. Go around and see in Adhamiya [the notorious Sunni insurgent area] - all the commanders are sitting sipping coffee; it's only the young kids that are fighting now, and they are not fighting Americans any more, they are just killing Shia. There are kids carrying two guns each and they roam the streets looking for their prey. They will kill for anything, for a gun, for a car and all can be dressed up as jihad."

Rami was no longer involved in fighting, he said, but made a tidy profit selling weapons and ammunition to men in his north Baghdad neighbourhood. Until the last few months, the insurgency got by with weapons and ammunition looted from former Iraqi army depots. But now that Sunnis were besieged in their neighbourhoods and fighting daily clashes with the better-equipped Shia ministry of interior forces, they needed new sources of weapons and money.

He told me that one of his main suppliers had been an interpreter working for the US army in Baghdad. "He had a deal with an American officer. We bought brand new AKs and ammunition from them." He claimed the American officer, whom he had never met but he believed was a captain serving at Baghdad airport, had even helped to divert a truckload of weapons as soon as it was driven over the border from Jordan.

These days Rami gets most of his supplies from the new American-equipped Iraqi army. "We buy ammunition from officers in charge of warehouses, a small box of AK-47 bullets is $450 (£230). If the guy sells a thousand boxes he can become rich and leave the country." But as the security situation deteriorates, Rami finds it increasingly difficult to travel across Baghdad. "Now I have to pay a Shia taxi driver to bring the ammo to me. He gets $50 for each shipment."

The box of 700 bullets that Rami buys for $450 today would have cost between $150 and $175 a year ago. The price of a Kalashnikov has risen from $300 to $400 in the same period. The inflation in arms prices reflects Iraq's plunge toward civil war but, largely unnoticed by the outside world, the Sunni insurgency has also changed. The conflict into which 20,000 more American troops will be catapulted over the next few weeks is very different to the one their comrades experienced even a year ago.

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very interesting article about the current nature of the fighting in iraq. the article goes on about how al qaeda helped set up the sunni insurgency, but how some sunnis are now wondering where AQ went and if they should change their strategy: make peace w/ the americans in return for protection from the shia militias. i found this bit particularly interesting:

"Each group is in charge of a specific street," Abu Aisha said. "We have defence lines, trenches and booby traps. When the Americans arrive we let them go through, but if they show up with Iraqi troops, then it's a fight."



Dont Hurt Me
Jan 15, 2007, 04:58 PM
The dogs of war have been let loose, revenge,jihad,eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth. This is an Islamic war, Bush didnt get it before and still doesnt get it. "The"Man is just stupid enough to get us into WW3. The only bright side is perhaps Jesus will be making his return?

psychofreak
Jan 15, 2007, 05:05 PM
Man is just stupid enough to get us into WW3.
By man please don't imply that it is the rest of the world. AMERICA is just stupid enough to get us into WW3.

The only bright side is perhaps Jesus will be making his return?

Mmm...Berlusconi is the Jesus of politics:rolleyes: , what more could you want?

Dont Hurt Me
Jan 15, 2007, 05:10 PM
A ringside seat with BBQ & Beer? I should have said "the" Man.

MACDRIVE
Jan 15, 2007, 07:45 PM
"Now I have to pay a Shia taxi driver to bring the ammo to me. He gets $50 for each shipment."

He pays the Shia taxi driver $50 to deliver ammo to be sold to Sunnis to kill Shias. That's the kind of irony skunk would like. ;)

zimv20 -- That's a fasinating article. I keep forgetting about the Guardian. I'm going to start reading their stuff alot more from here on out. :)

zimv20
Jan 16, 2007, 12:13 AM
zimv20 -- That's a fasinating article. I keep forgetting about the Guardian. I'm going to start reading their stuff alot more from here on out. :)
yeah, i wish the american press would do pieces with such particulars. or maybe i'm just not seeing them.