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zimv20
Jan 20, 2007, 11:50 PM
reuters (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=N18181226&WTmodLoc=World-R5-Alertnet-2)


WASHINGTON, Jan 18 (Reuters) - The steadily rising Iraq war price tag will reach about $8.4 billion a month this year, Pentagon spokesmen said on Thursday, as heavy replacement costs for lost, destroyed and aging equipment mount.

The Pentagon has been estimating last year's costs for the increasingly unpopular war at about $8 billion a month, having increased from a monthly "burn rate" of around $4.4 billion during the first year of fighting in fiscal 2003.

During testimony at a House Budget Committee hearing, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England said that nearly four years into the war, the Pentagon's war costs were rising because it was having to replace big-ticket items such as helicopters, airplanes and armored vehicles that are wearing out or were lost in combat.

"We have a backlog and are seeing an increase," England told the panel.

When factoring in U.S. combat costs in Afghanistan, the Pentagon will spend about $9.7 billion a month during the fiscal year that ends on Sept. 30, according to Pentagon spokesmen.

Early next month, the administration is expected to ask Congress for a further $100 billion in "emergency" war money, on top of the $70 billion already approved for this year. The request comes as President George W. Bush has sketched out an increase of 21,500 U.S. troops in Iraq that could cost about $5.6 billion.

House Budget Committee Chairman John Spratt, a South Carolina Democrat, said he hoped Congress could avoid recurring emergency funding bills for the war. "We would like to get a better grasp of the cost of the Iraq war and the global war on terrorism -- a way of accounting of costs to date and projecting costs to come."

Since fiscal 2001, Congress has approved $503 billion to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and other aspects of the U.S. "global war on terrorism," according to Congressional Budget Office testimony. Of that, $344 billion has gone for military, diplomatic and other security costs in Iraq, the CBO said.

Most of the funds have been provided on an emergency basis, outside regular budget procedures. Critics say that obscures the true cost of the war and results in less congressional oversight.

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Dont Hurt Me
Jan 21, 2007, 12:07 AM
King George has drained the treasury on this one. What a great job of pissing away our Nations $$$ while Bin Laden is still free. We lost 20 more Americans today for nothing. I can think of lot better things to spend our nations dollars and lives on but it seems Republicans are more interested in buying bombs & bullets then building roads or a healthcare plan for all Americans.

MACDRIVE
Jan 21, 2007, 05:08 AM
Can they really get 8.4 billion a month from just tax payers? :confused:

Blue Velvet
Jan 21, 2007, 05:20 AM
Gives a nice tickle to the G-spot of the military-industrial complex... gentlemen, more pork please and trebles all round.

takao
Jan 21, 2007, 05:42 AM
like that money couldn't have spent way better...

spork183
Jan 21, 2007, 05:45 AM
ole george is confused on the whole concept of government by the peephole, with the peephole and for the peephole. the peeps did elect him.

You have to admire his dogged determination to blindly maintain full speed ahead through these iceberg infested waters. Of course, our ship is unsinkable...

Scarlet Fever
Jan 21, 2007, 05:47 AM
imagine how much good half a trillion dollars would have done in Africa... instead GWB & Friends spend it on killing people...

MACDRIVE
Jan 21, 2007, 06:16 AM
What exactly is a billion anyway? A thousand million? :confused:

CorvusCamenarum
Jan 21, 2007, 06:24 AM
What exactly is a billion anyway? A thousand million? :confused:


Generally speaking, yes.

Billion = 10^9

Dont Hurt Me
Jan 21, 2007, 11:06 AM
Can they really get 8.4 billion a month from just tax payers? :confused:What George is doing is passing this down the generations meaning we,our kids & grandkids will be holding this debt along with China doing the financing. Terrific isnt it?

mactastic
Jan 21, 2007, 11:19 AM
$96 billion just this year alone that could have been returned to the US taxpayers. Now where are all the conservatives who hate it when the government "steals from them at the point of a gun"? Seem they only hate government giving to the poor, they applaud when government gives to the rich. It's disgusting.

pseudobrit
Jan 21, 2007, 12:30 PM
What exactly is a billion anyway? A thousand million? :confused:

1,000,000,000

Thomas Veil
Jan 21, 2007, 12:56 PM
Hey, it's only money.

Besides, if you gave it to the Dems they'd just waste it on stuff like port security and health care.

:mad:

zimv20
Jan 21, 2007, 01:33 PM
What exactly is a billion anyway? A thousand million? :confused:
in this instance, yes.

i'm not sure how many people know that there are actually two measures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion) for a billion: 10^9 and 10^12.

pseudobrit
Jan 21, 2007, 01:42 PM
in this instance, yes.

i'm not sure how many people know that there are actually two measures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion) for a billion: 10^9 and 10^12.

I thought it was the distinction between the two that led to his initial confusion.

zimv20
Jan 21, 2007, 01:49 PM
I thought it was the distinction between the two that led to his initial confusion.
i couldn't tell.

mactastic
Jan 21, 2007, 01:54 PM
1,000,000,000
Just to put that in a little perspective:

You will have lived one million seconds shortly after 11.5 days of life. You won't reach the age of one billion seconds until a little after you turn 31 years old. And there haven't been a trillion seconds pass since humans were biologically distinguishable from apes.

So when someone says this war may end up costing us a trillion dollars by the time it's all said and done, just look at the single in your pocket and imagine that even if someone gave you one of those per second, they couldn't pay you half of what we spend in Iraq in one month in your entire lifetime. Then try and justify the total cost of the war.

Queso
Jan 21, 2007, 02:36 PM
in this instance, yes.

i'm not sure how many people know that there are actually two measures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion) for a billion: 10^9 and 10^12.
10^9 = 1 milliard
10^12 = 1 billion

For some reason the word milliard has disappeared from the US vocabulary somewhere along the way. Sadly the US definition of billion has now been exported all over the anglosphere, so sooner or later it'll disappear from international English too.

zimv20
Jan 21, 2007, 02:47 PM
For some reason the word milliard has disappeared from the US vocabulary
'cuz i keep getting it confused with that word for "a million ducks." what's that word again?

Scarlet Fever
Jan 22, 2007, 03:23 AM
Just to put that in a little perspective:

You will have lived one million seconds shortly after 11.5 days of life. You won't reach the age of one billion seconds until a little after you turn 31 years old. And there haven't been a trillion seconds pass since humans were biologically distinguishable from apes.

So when someone says this war may end up costing us a trillion dollars by the time it's all said and done, just look at the single in your pocket and imagine that even if someone gave you one of those per second, they couldn't pay you half of what we spend in Iraq in one month in your entire lifetime. Then try and justify the total cost of the war.
thats really sad... :(

solvs
Jan 23, 2007, 03:58 AM
What a waste of money. Too bad it took us so long to catch on. Well, some of us.

mactastic
Jan 23, 2007, 09:00 AM
What a waste of money. Too bad it took us so long to catch on. Well, some of us.
Yeah, but for some reason we're supposed to listen to the people who've been wrong this whole time about nearly everything...

solvs
Jan 24, 2007, 02:34 AM
Yeah, but for some reason we're supposed to listen to the people who've been wrong this whole time about nearly everything...

Yeah, I don't get that either. Fool me once... well, you know.

aquajet
Jan 24, 2007, 02:45 AM
Fool me once... well, you know.

Unfortunately, some of us will be fooled again.

solvs
Jan 24, 2007, 03:37 AM
Unfortunately, some of us will be fooled again.

Apparently only about 28% of us, given recent poll numbers.

skunk
Jan 24, 2007, 08:43 AM
'cuz i keep getting it confused with that word for "a million ducks." what's that word again?A Barnyard?