My new computer :)

[rhpenguin]

Been a long time since ive posted but with good reason. My old trusty B&W PowerMac well, she aint so trusty anymore. It died a little while ago and well even though i have the parts to fix it, i'm too lazy. It being as slow as it was i got looking into upgrading. I dont like Apple's product line. I think theres room in the middle for a Prosumer tower so i took matters into my own hands and came up with this. After much agony and resarch i present you (ma new 'puter) Natalie.

First off... I paid for a lisence of OS X just for this machine so i dont want to hear anything about me ripping Apple off. Just because im not using the original cd to install the application doesnt mean its piracy.

Now thats out of the way lets get on to the fun stuff!
My motherboard is an Asus P5B-VM
My processor is an Intel Core2Duo E6600 (the 2.4 GHz model with 2MB of cache per core!)
For RAM i have OCZ 2GB DDR800 (1GBx2)
My Graphics card is an ATi Radeon X1900XTX 512MB model
For storage i have four 500GB Western Digital HDDs (7200RPM 16MB Cache)
And finally a Griffin Firewave for ma sound!

Im running an up to date copy of MacOS X 10.4.8 on this beast and all of my devices work tickety boo. I have to say its faster than any Mac ive ever owned, which makes sense because the fastest Apple machine ive ever owned was an 800MHz G3 (LOL).


P.S. This machine is getting crammed into a PowerMac G4 case when my railbuttons come in so not only will it run nice but look fab too! :)

[bartelby]

You're using Mac OS on non Apple hardware?

Isn't that against the Terms & Conditions of the lisence?

[miniConvert]

*Tssk tssk*

Unless it's a price thing, who could dislike the Mac Pro? :p

[rhpenguin]

Its grey... I figure i paid for the OS and the TOS says it has to be on a machine in an Apple enclosure or something to that effect...

Im not ripping them off. I paid for their software. Thats how i look at it.

Ha! If i could afford the MacPro, believe me i would have one.. This route saved me a whole lot of cash. And I am planning on buying a Macbook soon too, so im not completely shutting out Apple hardware!

Just some quick math.. My machine cost me roughly $1600CAD The cheapest MacPro i can get would cost me Roughly $2800. This will allow me to buy my MacBook quicker!

[swiftaw]

Im not ripping them off. I paid for their software. Thats how i look at it.

But you didn't pay for their hardware, which is a requirement of using OS X.

[rhpenguin]

What is Apples hardware anymore? Its Intel chips. Its Intels chipsets... I have both of those in my machine. The only thing i dont have is EFI and TPM.

[bartelby]

What is Apples hardware anymore? Its Intel chips. Its Intels chipsets... I have both of those in my machine. The only thing i dont have is EFI and TPM.


Erm. Was it supplied by Apple Inc.?

[MacBoobsPro]

Sorry to wade in on this battle you have no chance of winning really :p but...

would not building your own 'puter allow you to get a MacBook even quicker?

[Abstract]

What is Apples hardware anymore? Its Intel chips. Its Intels chipsets... I have both of those in my machine. The only thing i dont have is EFI and TPM.

Don't worry, I'm with you. While it isn't 100% legal, I think morally you're ok. :)

[Sesshi]

Sorry to wade in on this battle you have no chance of winning really :p but...

would not building your own 'puter allow you to get a MacBook even quicker?

Either that, or you could run the same 'software' as the OP on a Samsung Q35 which costs virtually the same as a Macbook - and get a laptop that Apple probably wishes it could engineer.

[dornoforpyros]

I say roll with it, if you bought a copy of the OS then this project was done in good faith.

[rhpenguin]

Sorry to wade in on this battle you have no chance of winning really :p but...

would not building your own 'puter allow you to get a MacBook even quicker?

Yes. But i need a tower too. The cost of my tower and a Macbook work about the same as a MacPro alone.

Erm. Was it supplied by Apple Inc.?

No. But it was supplied by Intel.

[Red Velvet]

I say good on you.

[StealthRider]

How did you buy an Intel copy of OS X? The version in stores is PPC-only.

[bartelby]

No. But it was supplied by Intel.

So it's not Apple hardware then is it.

[Rodimus Prime]

Ha! If i could afford the MacPro, believe me i would have one.. This route saved me a whole lot of cash. And I am planning on buying a Macbook soon too, so im not completely shutting out Apple hardware!

Just some quick math.. My machine cost me roughly $1600CAD The cheapest MacPro i can get would cost me Roughly $2800. This will allow me to buy my MacBook quicker!
finally some one putting numbers to show apple issues with there current line up.

I think the biggest thing to show that apple as a huge gaping hole in there line up of computers is just look at the price difference between an iMac and Mac Pro and do not forget you need to add a monitor to the mac Pro. We are taking over a 1k differences is price (easily more)

I am seeing more and more people getting fed up with apple nice gaping hole in there computer line up. What people want is above the iMac but below the mac pro and they do not like paying for stuff they do not needed.


As for what you did it is not legal and is clearly against apple EULA and there is no way around that point. As for my opinion of what you did, I agree with you and think you went about it in the right way and made a point to buy the software at least. Hell if I had the money I would do the same thing but alas it is at least another year before I will be building myself a new desktop as a graduation gift to myself and of course it is going to to be running an M$ OS unless apple releases OSX to any body who wants to install it because I am to lazy to jump though hoops to make it work. If it was released I would dual boot because it will be a gaming computer and well I do not see that part changing over to OSX any time soon.

[rhpenguin]

How did you buy an Intel copy of OS X? The version in stores is PPC-only.

It is a PPC copy. But its the same OS. Its just sitting at home in the shrink wrap.

As for what you did it is not legal and is clearly against apple EULA and there is no way around that point.

Hah... The EULA I agreed to was "Once again, Enjoy"... LOL

So it's not Apple hardware then is it.


Nope. But what is Apple hardware?

[Chundles]

Nope. But what is Apple hardware?

Purchased from Apple. When you buy a Mac, the license for the software is the hardware.

If you did not purchase your computer from Apple then you are in violation of the EULA. The license to run OSX is not in the copy of the software but the hardware you run it on - that's why there are no license keys for OSX your Mac IS the license.

If you have to hack the OS to get it to install on your computer then you're in violation of the EULA. If Apple did not make the computer you're installing the OS on (no matter how similar the components of the computer you've built are) then you are in violation of the EULA. Not to mention the EULA for the copy of OSX you purchased allows installation on compatible PowerPC G3, G4 or G5 systems, not Intel systems, is a bit of a give away that you are in the wrong.

Fact of the matter is the EULA allows you install OSX on a compatible Mac - if it's not screwed together by Apple it's not a Mac. I could go get all the under-the-metal bits of a porsche and put them together under a skin made of plastic but it won't be a porsche will it? No. Apple hardware is hardware put together and purchased from Apple. Your computer is not Apple hardware and installing a hacked version of the Intel version of OSX whilst claiming to have a license to install (which does not exist because a Mac is the license and your computer is not a Mac) because you purchased a version of OSX which won't even install on an Intel machine is bunk. You have no legal rights here mate.

Sorry mate, but the fact is your are in violation of the EULA.

[Rodimus Prime]

Hah... The EULA I agreed to was "Once again, Enjoy"... LOL

again you are breaking the EULA which clearly states it may only be one apple label computer. Other wise a computer built by Apple Inc. Apple could basically take you to court and you would loose.

You can try to justify any way you can but legally you are still breaking the EULA and the law. There is no if and or buts about it. what you are doing is not legal.

[rhpenguin]

You can try to justify any way you can but legally you are still breaking the EULA and the law. There is no if and or buts about it. what you are doing is not legal.

And clearly, i do not care.

[Chundles]

And clearly, i do not care.

And clearly, I'm reporting the thread for violating the forum's guidelines regarding piracy - which is how you came about your version of OSX.

[Rodimus Prime]

And clearly, i do not care.

not like I care. Personally I do not care that what you are doing is illegal. Hell I more than likely would install OSX as a duel boot myself if my desktop was running on an Intel chip (I have an Athlon in it).

You saying that what you are doing is legal is what bothering me. Do not try to defend your action as legal. Just state that you do not care about the EULA. Hell most people don't. I am also willing to bet that most people here have pirated software, music or videos on their computer (please read the word MOST. it does not say all)

In many ways I agree with you actions. I just know that it is not legal.

[bousozoku]

Nope. But what is Apple hardware?

It's pretty clear and it has little to do with the case.

It's good that you have something to run, but it's against the EULA to run Mac OS X on non-Apple machines.