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menziep
Feb 2, 2007, 12:53 PM
I have sources that have told me that Apple will be releasing an Updated iPod Soon.

Features include:
Wider Screen (Similar to that of the Microsoft Zune)
Higher Resolution Screen (I'm guessing 640x480)
Not Touch Screen (I don't know but one of my sources was sure that it didn't have a Touch Screen)
Aluminum enclosure
Little Bigger form factor (Due to extra features)
5 Colors (I'm guessing Gray, Green, Blue, Black, Pink)
802.11g Built In
New iPod OS (Using Theme Similar to that of the iPhone OS)
Larger Hard Drives (40Gb and 100Gb)No Release date was specified but im guessing anytime from Now to end of Q3.


Please Note that i can not confirm my sources as being accurate on any of the above points.

Also Note that i have posted Correct Rumors (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=264089) in the past.

Digg This (http://digg.com/apple/Rumor_iPod_6G)

Please Comment on this Post



jono_3
Feb 2, 2007, 12:55 PM
i think its too underwhelming to be accurate...

MovieCutter
Feb 2, 2007, 12:56 PM
Sounds like an idea built on a little common sense to me, not an actual rumor from an actual source. Colors on the iPod is ridiculous though...too many product lines and part numbers. I'm not entirely sure on the no-touch screen idea though. I'd imagine we'd get an iPhone minus the phone for the iPod.

And you were right about a major Mac software product that supposedly would launch at Macworld...whoop de friggin dooo. Big surprise there...

JDN
Feb 2, 2007, 01:00 PM
Id REALLY like to see the new 30/80Gb iPods in the aluminium style of the nano and shuffle. I would buy one in an instant. I don't own an iPod yet, and the only reason for that is i dont like the way the big ones look. If this happens before the summer (June say) then ill be very happy.

menziep
Feb 2, 2007, 01:01 PM
Colors on the iPod is ridiculous though...too many product lines and part numbers.

If this was a year ago i would agree with you, But look at the Nano and Now the Shuffle.

And you were right about a major Mac software product that supposedly would launch at Macworld...whoop de friggin dooo. Big surprise there...

Point is that i was more or less right!

dan-o-mac
Feb 2, 2007, 01:14 PM
Kind of a lame update if it's true. After seeing the iPhone in action does anyone expect anything less than a touch screen ipod.

menziep
Feb 2, 2007, 01:17 PM
Kind of a lame update if it's true. After seeing the iPhone in action does anyone expect anything less than a touch screen ipod.


If there is a touch screen ipod then it will probably be at lease a few months after the iphone has shipped

dmw007
Feb 2, 2007, 01:26 PM
An aluminum enclosure would be cool, but I would really like to see a touch sensitive interface such as found on the iPhone. :) :apple:

Felldownthewell
Feb 2, 2007, 01:29 PM
If not in a touchscreen format, how are they going to have a wider screen and incorperate controls?

menziep
Feb 2, 2007, 01:56 PM
If not in a touchscreen format, how are they going to have a wider screen and incorporate controls?

There are many ways, but i don't know apple's chosen method.

For Example The Touch Wheel could be used Or a Strip down the side (See Apple Patents)

I found a Mock-up thread on which was this:


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4780/comparesv1.png

FoxyKaye
Feb 2, 2007, 02:12 PM
All I ask for is a 16GB Nano and a star to steer it by... :p

Well, there is the purported Apple Superbowl commercial this weekend, which might make a convenient launch point for something.

MovieCutter
Feb 2, 2007, 02:16 PM
Point is that i was more or less right!

That doesn't mean you have credible sources. TO me it looks like a lucky shot in the dark. As for the colors...the reasons Shuffles and Nanos have colors is to appeal to larger audiences, mainly because Shuffles and Nanos likely outsell regular iPods 4 or 5 to 1. So it doesn't make good business sense to create so many differentiating products for the line you sell the least amount of.

aswitcher
Feb 2, 2007, 02:30 PM
"Touch your Music" said Steve.

Thats Apple's motto for this year. I expect a touchscreen 80/100GB model. Maybe the iTune supgrade due in a few weeks will be used to launch it...

menziep
Feb 2, 2007, 02:33 PM
That doesn't mean you have credible sources. TO me it looks like a lucky shot in the dark.
I did have legit sources but i do understand where you are coming from and that you have no reason to believe me.


As for the colors...the reasons Shuffles and Nanos have colors is to appeal to larger audiences, mainly because Shuffles and Nanos likely outsell regular iPods 4 or 5 to 1. So it doesn't make good business sense to create so many differentiating products for the line you sell the least amount of.

Well your right (to an extent), but :apple: may do colors to help increase sales of the iPod.

Phobophobia
Feb 2, 2007, 02:36 PM
but :apple: may do colors to help increase sales of the iPod.
Black was their idea of adding color.

mrgreen4242
Feb 2, 2007, 02:43 PM
If not in a touchscreen format, how are they going to have a wider screen and incorperate controls?

I always figured they'd use the nano scroll wheel and a bigger screen if they didn't do a touchscreen iPod.

I'd like to see an iPod that is the same size as the current video models, but with a "taller" screen, a smaller scroll wheel (from the nano), and an accelerometer to know which way you were holding it.

As far as the guess of 640*480 for this rumored "widescreen" iPod, well, that wouldn't be very widescreen, would it? :p Also, the assumption that it'd be "more like the Zunes screen" is kind of silly, since they are already the same resolution (320x240). 640*400 would be sweet, though. I'd like to see something like that, personally. Using the nano scroll wheel, expanding the screen vertically and adding a sensor to detect how you are holding it would be a nice mix of getting what we want (widescreen, higher res, larger screen) and not having to shell out a ton of cash (ala iPhone).

mrgreen4242
Feb 2, 2007, 02:45 PM
Why do people list their toys in their sig...nobody gives a $#**

Unrelated, but I've been meaning post a response to this for awhile now... I do it, and I like when others do it, because it often helps with technical questions, or just general discussion about products. If someone needs help or offers some advice, it's something/usually helpful to know what their using, and it's convenient to not have to count on them telling you in each individual post. Just my $.02 on it. :D

Jay42
Feb 2, 2007, 02:51 PM
5 Colors (I'm guessing Gray, Green, Blue, Black, Pink)
Digg This (http://digg.com/apple/Rumor_iPod_6G)[/COLOR]


No White?! I find this hard to believe.

MBX
Feb 2, 2007, 03:06 PM
that would be rather lame because it would give the ipod a "zune-layout" and thus all the m$ fanboys and bill gates would say apple copied them.

i hope this is not true and apple will do a more iphone-ish ipod (iphone without the phone feature and bigger storage).

mrgreen4242
Feb 2, 2007, 03:16 PM
that would be rather lame because it would give the ipod a "zune-layout" and thus all the m$ fanboys and bill gates would say apple copied them.

i hope this is not true and apple will do a more iphone-ish ipod (iphone without the phone feature and bigger storage).

That's an interesting point, although you could say the same about the Zune now (it's laid out more or less like an iPod). In any case you're probably right that people would think that. A touch screen iPod would be cool, I'm just concerned about price.

I'd much rather have a $250 30 or 40gb Zune-look-alike-iPod than a $299-$349 model with a touch screen.

andiwm2003
Feb 2, 2007, 03:39 PM
I did have legit sources but i do understand where you are coming from and that you have no reason to believe me.


you seem to be a bit too eager to tell us that you have good sources and that you were right last time and that you are "in the know"

i usually believe in "those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell".;)

but anyway i hope you're right and i'm wrong because then we have a good source of information around:)

as for the ipod's it seems plausible to me. i only think the larger form factor and the 5 colors a unlikely.

andiwm2003
Feb 2, 2007, 03:44 PM
Unrelated, but I've been meaning post a response to this for awhile now... I do it, and I like when others do it, because it often helps with technical questions, or just general discussion about products. If someone needs help or offers some advice, it's something/usually helpful to know what their using, and it's convenient to not have to count on them telling you in each individual post. Just my $.02 on it. :D

Why do people list their toys in their sig...nobody gives a $#**.

you guys know that you can deselect "show signatures" in the USER CP/Thread display options?:D

Krevnik
Feb 2, 2007, 04:04 PM
I'd much rather have a $250 30 or 40gb Zune-look-alike-iPod than a $299-$349 model with a touch screen.

Interesting, I am actually the opposite, I would rather have the touchscreen, especially after seeing the UI that the iPhone could share with the iPod. Ideally, I would like to see something like:

250$ - 40GB 5.5G iPod Video
300$ - 60GB 6G iPod Touch
400$ - 100GB 6G iPod Touch

mrgreen4242
Feb 2, 2007, 04:24 PM
Interesting, I am actually the opposite, I would rather have the touchscreen, especially after seeing the UI that the iPhone could share with the iPod. Ideally, I would like to see something like:

250$ - 40GB 5.5G iPod Video
300$ - 60GB 6G iPod Touch
400$ - 100GB 6G iPod Touch

Except I don't think a 60gb touchscreen iPod would be $300. I'd expect more like 30gb touchscreen at $300 and 80gb at $400. I agree the iPhone UI is impressive, but the iPod has done well by doing a relatively small number of things and doing it well.

Now, I'd like to see a new Newton based on the iPhone sans the cellphone bits, that would be cool and could be in that $300-500 price range, just below the cost of an iPhone.

But keep the iPod relatively simple and affordable by making it a great music player that is also a GOOD video player (I'd say it's an adequate player now, adding a larger, widescreen, higher res display would make it good).

Hm, in fact I'd go as far as to say that there really should be that distinction in there.

Shuffle/nano - cheap music players w/ some extra features (photos, calendar, contacts) $75-250
iPod - affordable music player that handles video well, too $250-300
Newton - PDA with iPod features via software $300-400
iPhone - Newton + cell phone $500-600

Seems like a very Apple product line to me. Each one has it's advantages and the price difference between models is just small enough to make you consider 'upgrading'.

Scarlet Fever
Feb 2, 2007, 04:37 PM
i reckon it will have;
-multi-touch (whats the point of a new OS if there isn't a new way to input data?)
-aluminium case, thus colours, and seeing how many people here love the orange, it'll come in that as well
-40/60GB and 100GB models.
-thicker to accommodate larger battery

Chundles
Feb 2, 2007, 04:40 PM
I have sources that have told me that Apple will be releasing an Updated iPod Soon.

Features include:
Wider Screen (Similar to that of the Microsoft Zune)
Higher Resolution Screen (I'm guessing 640x480)
Not Touch Screen (I don't know but one of my sources was sure that it didn't have a Touch Screen)
Aluminum enclosure
Little Bigger form factor (Due to extra features)
5 Colors (I'm guessing Gray, Green, Blue, Black, Pink)
802.11g Built In
New iPod OS (Using Theme Similar to that of the iPhone OS)
Larger Hard Drives (40Gb and 100Gb)No Release date was specified but im guessing anytime from Now to end of Q3.


Please Note that i can not confirm my sources as being accurate on any of the above points.

Also Note that i have posted Correct Rumors (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=264089) in the past.

Digg This (http://digg.com/apple/Rumor_iPod_6G)

Please Comment on this Post


Wow, you always seem to want lots of comments don't you?

I'll post just one.

For the last time, the Zune screen is not "widescreen" it the exact same resolution and aspect ratio as the iPod screen - all they've done is rotate it 90 to put it in portrait mode.

Krevnik
Feb 2, 2007, 04:49 PM
Except I don't think a 60gb touchscreen iPod would be $300. I'd expect more like 30gb touchscreen at $300 and 80gb at $400. I agree the iPhone UI is impressive, but the iPod has done well by doing a relatively small number of things and doing it well.

Don't mis-understand me, I am not talking about a PDA-Pod. I am talking about taking the Media-access UI of the iPhone and applying it to a touch-screen iPod. Being able to quickly move between albums, artists, and songs is an actual strength of the Zune UI, and weakness of the iPod UI which the iPhone UI addresses. Coverflow is a nice improvement as well, since it introduces a level of spatial interaction with your media (which I like).

I would rather have such a device lack wireless, and be an iPod, with the nicer touch UI for interacting with my media. Scrolling is so 2001. ;)

(I don't even use the notes/contacts/calendar bits on my iPod, I have that functionality on my phone)

Richard Flynn
Feb 2, 2007, 04:56 PM
I have sources that have told me that Apple will be releasing an Updated iPod Soon.
<snip>

Are you ApplePi on AppleInsider? Because someone under that name posted a very similar idea (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=71224). Only there it was couched in the question, 'Do you think this will happen?', whereas here it's surrounded by 'I know this is going to happen!'.

dan-o-mac
Feb 2, 2007, 05:22 PM
If there is a touch screen ipod then it will probably be at lease a few months after the iphone has shipped

That's one reason why this is a lame update. We've already seen the future, we don't want an iPod with marginal upgrades, well at least I don't. :D

nutmac
Feb 2, 2007, 06:12 PM
Wow, you always seem to want lots of comments don't you?

I'll post just one.

For the last time, the Zune screen is not "widescreen" it the exact same resolution and aspect ratio as the iPod screen - all they've done is rotate it 90 to put it in portrait mode.

Yeah exactly. Zune has 4x3 LCD just like iPod, just portrait instead of landscape. menziep's poor record also speak for itself (Toast 8 notwithstanding, which is really Roxio rumor not Apple).

shrimpdesign
Feb 2, 2007, 06:18 PM
Those iPod specs seem like reasonable.

However, you don't have a good track record with Apple rumors. So you predicted Toast. It went on sale right before MWSF ... that's a pretty big flag that they will release a new version, it doesn't take much to guess they will release a new version.

Anyways, Roxio is not Apple. I suspect Apple is much more secretive than Roxio.

In short, I don't believe you.

aswitcher
Feb 3, 2007, 12:44 AM
As much as I want a Touch Screen, BT and BT headphones would be the killer features for me with this unit. I am relly over using corded headphones.

crap freakboy
Feb 3, 2007, 04:31 AM
i think its too underwhelming to be accurate...

I'd say because it IS underwhelming it is probably accurate.:D

iEdd
Feb 3, 2007, 05:18 AM
Seems pretty right, other than the WiFi. Bluetooth makes more sense with the headphones and iSync and whatnot. Although Airtunes is WiFi so it could make more sense in that respect.

micsaund
Feb 3, 2007, 10:40 AM
I'm just wishing they'd hurry-up and make the stupid announcement, whatever it will be! I'm waiting to buy my first iPod with video to go with my old iPod Mini, and I'd rather wait to see what's coming-out than order one today and have Apple introduce a new model tomorrow.

I'm not so much interested in what the changes will be, as the current design or any of the above proprosed designs sound good to me. I just don't want to finally buy and have it replaced by a new design right away.

Stridder44
Feb 3, 2007, 04:00 PM
Colors on the iPod is ridiculous though...too many product lines and part numbers.



I know seriously. Apple's made so much money off the new colored nanos, it's terrible. And now the shuffles!?? My God... I hate the vibrant awesome colors and won't be getting an iPod shuffle in orange next week. That's for sure.

psychofreak
Feb 3, 2007, 04:07 PM
Seems pretty right, other than the WiFi. Bluetooth makes more sense with the headphones and iSync and whatnot. Although Airtunes is WiFi so it could make more sense in that respect.
The problem now is that good headphones aren't bluetooth...the iPod headphones are meant to be almost dispensable, and I don't think that the world is ready yet. WiFi would allow quick iPod wireless updating with the computer (possibly macs only...)

classof2011
Feb 3, 2007, 04:58 PM
I agree with the people saying the Zune screen is an iPod screen turned to Portrait. It looks bigger, but when you compare it, it's the same size...at our school, 90% of MP3 player - owners have iPods, 9% have RCA, and .x% have Zunes...which is pretty much one kid. I personally wouldn't like the Zune whatsoever, no matter who tells me the screen is bigger. I would much rather have a 6G iPod than a Zune.

classof2011
Feb 3, 2007, 04:58 PM
No, make that a 1G :D

iEdd
Feb 3, 2007, 05:02 PM
The problem now is that good headphones aren't bluetooth...the iPod headphones are meant to be almost dispensable, and I don't think that the world is ready yet. WiFi would allow quick iPod wireless updating with the computer (possibly macs only...)

I agree. It's just that it will get better and with the world's most popular portable music player going bluetooth, more will be developed and quality will come.

MovieCutter
Feb 3, 2007, 05:23 PM
I know seriously. Apple's made so much money off the new colored nanos, it's terrible. And now the shuffles!?? My God... I hate the vibrant awesome colors and won't be getting an iPod shuffle in orange next week. That's for sure.

I was talking about the iPods, not the iPod nanos, and the iPod Shuffles smart@$$.

Unrelated, but I've been meaning post a response to this for awhile now... I do it, and I like when others do it, because it often helps with technical questions, or just general discussion about products. If someone needs help or offers some advice, it's something/usually helpful to know what their using, and it's convenient to not have to count on them telling you in each individual post. Just my $.02 on it. :D

I take your $.02 and throw them into the fountain good sir, for I find that most people who do it are simply compensating for something or bragging. That being said, I'm a grouch, so deal with it. :mad:

And as for not showing signatures, some peoples' are actually quite interesting. I do not claim to be one of them, but they are interesting nonetheless.

music.addict411
Feb 3, 2007, 07:31 PM
I want to see a white and black Shuffle, and a white nano.

That would be great

iEdd
Feb 3, 2007, 07:57 PM
I find that most people who do it are simply compensating for something or bragging.

There are much less subtle ways to brag than to put what you have in a 1-5 line signature on some internet forum. I'd agree with you if people starting using large sizes and bold for their sigs, but listing their specs just helps answer questions.

The new member
Feb 5, 2007, 10:54 AM
There is a picture here http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=276841

Shackler
Feb 5, 2007, 05:21 PM
i need some serious help, should i buy a 30gig video or wait till the 6gen comes out. Does anyone have somefact to wether it will come out b4 august?

do u have a pic of this touchstrip?

2tallyAwesome
Feb 11, 2007, 10:58 PM
you seem to be a bit too eager to tell us that you have good sources and that you were right last time and that you are "in the know"

i usually believe in "those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell".;)



I don't know about that. Some people just can't keep secrets.

I'm such a gossip, I tell everybody everything.