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timnosenzo
Feb 7, 2007, 02:41 PM
First they cell phones while driving, they ban smoking in bars & restaurants, then they ban trans-fats, now you won't be able to listen to your iPod!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/02/07/nyc.ipod.reut/index.html

Although truth be told, people walking around the streets of NYC while staring down at their phone texting is ****ing annoying. And people still talk on their cell phones while driving.... :rolleyes:



iKwick7
Feb 7, 2007, 02:47 PM
I forget where I read this earlier today- engadget, maybe?

Anywho- no worries. The bill will not get passed. Even if it does, who is to say you were actually "listening" to music if you get a ticket a ticket for doing so.

er.... that just sounds funny right there.

Anywho- I'll believe it when I see someone actually get a ticket for jaywalking.

whooleytoo
Feb 7, 2007, 03:06 PM
Never mind calling - I know people who txt while driving.

bousozoku
Feb 7, 2007, 03:29 PM
I forget where I read this earlier today- engadget, maybe?

Anywho- no worries. The bill will not get passed. Even if it does, who is to say you were actually "listening" to music if you get a ticket a ticket for doing so.

er.... that just sounds funny right there.

Anywho- I'll believe it when I see someone actually get a ticket for jaywalking.

Sure, they could be watching pr0n and yes, it's easy enough to cross against the light without seeing the police.

Doesn't NYC have a ban on using a mobile phone while driving?

I don't even think it matters because people cross even when there is a car coming. I'm surprised I'd never seen anyone in NYC beat on a car that came too close.

SoldOutMatinee
Feb 7, 2007, 03:44 PM
Just iPods or mp3 players in general?:confused:? It's confusing cuz it's like saying Kleenex and Q-Tip instead of tissue and cotton swab.

Anyways, It's smart and I agree with 'em. They're just saying that if they see you thumbing through your mp3, cell, psp...etc. while crossing the street, they'll fine you. I don't understand the backlash. They're not banning the devices all together while you walk, just while street crossing. It's all about safety.

Peace. :apple:

Frisco
Feb 7, 2007, 03:46 PM
Cnet Link (http://news.com.com/N.Y.+lawmaker+hopes+to+ban+iPod+use+in+crosswalks/2100-1047_3-6157109.html)

Big Brother is at it again!

Teh Don Ditty
Feb 7, 2007, 03:52 PM
I don't know how people can be so stupid. By attention when crossing said street!

thedude110
Feb 7, 2007, 04:08 PM
I don't even think it matters because people cross even when there is a car coming. I'm surprised I'd never seen anyone in NYC beat on a car that came too close.

Exactly. I wonder how the "hit by car" figures compare to historical "hit by car" figures?

Maybe we need to start banning legislators.

Mavimao
Feb 7, 2007, 04:11 PM
I personally think this bill is stupid. If people want to take the risk of getting run over listening to their earphones or playing their handheld video games that's their problem. I don't need the government treating adults like they're children. It's one thing to ban talking on a cell phone while DRIVING - operating a motor vehicle, but it's something totally different when you're just walking and all you want to do is to listen to some songs.

Teh Don Ditty
Feb 7, 2007, 04:13 PM
Us New Yorkers don't stop for people.

bousozoku
Feb 7, 2007, 04:13 PM
Just iPods or mp3 players in general?:confused:? It's confusing cuz it's like saying Kleenex and Q-Tip instead of tissue and cotton swab.

Anyways, It's smart and I agree with 'em. They're just saying that if they see you thumbing through your mp3, cell, psp...etc. while crossing the street, they'll fine you. I don't understand the backlash. They're not banning the devices all together while you walk, just while street crossing. It's all about safety.

Peace. :apple:

It should be anything, including books and magazines but I'm sure they're using "iPod" like "Walkman" that included all sorts of cassette players.

bellychris
Feb 7, 2007, 04:14 PM
laws like this are dumb, if you use your ipod reasonably(with the volume low so you can hear your surroundings) its safe to walk across the street with the earbuds in. I mean its your fault if you have the ipod blasting so loud you are oblivous of cars coming. You cant prevent bad things happening from just passing laws preventing it. Soon we will have to wear helmets walking across the street.

Legolamb
Feb 7, 2007, 04:20 PM
laws like this are dumb, if you use your ipod reasonably(with the volume low so you can hear your surroundings) its safe to walk across the street with the earbuds in. I mean its your fault if you have the ipod blasting so loud you are oblivous of cars coming. You cant prevent bad things happening from just passing laws preventing it. Soon we will have to wear helmets walking acrossing the street.

Very well put. But it does put drivers at risk trying to avoid the idiots who are that clueless to their surroundings.

Sun Baked
Feb 7, 2007, 05:45 PM
Well here, the driver is rarely charged if the pedestrian gets whacked outside a crosswalk -- they just have to stop.

So we are rather iPod friendly to the drivers now. :p

Apple Hobo
Feb 7, 2007, 06:15 PM
...three pedestrians in his Brooklyn district have been killed since September upon stepping into traffic while distracted by an electronic device. In one case bystanders screamed "watch out" to no avail.

So what if the guy was deaf instead? I think deaf people should be banned from crossing the street. :rolleyes: If a blind person can cross a street without getting plastered by a bus, some idiot with an iPod has no excuse for getting killed (other than being an idiot).

Government has an obligation to protect its citizenry

Yeah, from things like space alien invasions and terrorism, but not from trying to win a Darwin award.

pilotError
Feb 7, 2007, 06:18 PM
I'd really like to see them try to enforce it...

Martin C
Feb 7, 2007, 06:21 PM
I live in NYC, and I know that this will never get passed and if it does, poorly enforced.

bousozoku
Feb 7, 2007, 06:22 PM
So what if the guy was deaf instead? I think deaf people should be banned from crossing the street. :rolleyes: If a blind person can cross a street without getting plastered by a bus, some idiot with an iPod has no excuse for getting killed (other than being an idiot).
...

Deaf people have no choice, though people with electronic devices do and blind people generally have a service dog to keep them out of danger.

Exactly. I wonder how the "hit by car" figures compare to historical "hit by car" figures?

Maybe we need to start banning legislators.

Probably but they don't come here often. ;)

I have a better suggestion but I don't want to turn this too political.

wmmk
Feb 7, 2007, 07:13 PM
Deaf people have no choice, though people with electronic devices do and blind people generally have a service dog to keep them out of danger.



Probably but they don't come here often. ;)

I have a better suggestion but I don't want to turn this too political.

Ooh! PM it to me! For some reason, I find all New Yorkers' political ideas rather funny...

Sam0r
Feb 7, 2007, 07:54 PM
Or you could just look both ways before crossing the street...?

Or.. use a crossing! If someone runs a red and mows you down, then thats their fault for running the red light, not yours.

If you're crossing where there isn't a crossing, then looking both ways should be common sense to anyone.

But then again, I guess sense really isn't that common..

c-Row
Feb 8, 2007, 05:38 AM
But then again, I guess sense really isn't that common..

It's just not american.







:p

kildraik
Feb 14, 2007, 12:09 AM
http://www.i4u.com/article7868.html

Interesting.

dukebound85
Feb 14, 2007, 12:14 AM
but not cd players! or zunes or any other non-ipod lol

Father Jack
Feb 14, 2007, 12:20 AM
I like nothing more than listening to my iPod, but crossing a busy road while listening to music is not the best idea. A few people using iPods have walked out in front of me while I was driving, thankfully none of them have been injured.


FJ

Abstract
Feb 14, 2007, 12:42 AM
iPods are iPods. People can still look both ways before crossing the road.

Maybe people should be fined for walking across the street without looking both ways. Maybe people should be fined for listening to music in a car.

Father Jack
Feb 14, 2007, 12:58 AM
iPods are iPods. People can still look both ways before crossing the road. Maybe people should be fined for walking across the street without looking both ways.

Of course they can ..... it's just some choose not to !!!:eek:

In the UK / Ireland you can be fined for walking across the road without looking both ways, it's called "Jaywalking" A friend of mine got fined a few years ago !! :)


FJ

iBlue
Feb 14, 2007, 03:12 AM
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In the UK / Ireland you can be fined for walking across the road without looking both ways, it's called "Jaywalking" A friend of mine got fined a few years ago !! ...

Jaywalking is usually known as walking across the street [haphazardly] anyplace outside of the designated crossing zones.
It's a stupid ticket to receive but sometimes cops just want to be picky, I suppose. It's my ass, if I want to risk it and walk across the street outside the crossing then so be it, but that's just my take on it. I look before crossing, no matter where I am or what I'm listening to. :p

h?
Feb 14, 2007, 08:17 AM
It's my ass, if I want to risk it and walk across the street outside the crossing then so be it, but that's just my take on it. I look before crossing, no matter where I am or what I'm listening to. :p

You can say that but it is not just you who is in danger from it. If the driver tries to swerve away from you and plows into an oncoming car, you're fine but two innocent parties may be hurt.

I must admit, it is stupid to cross the road without looking. It is a huge risk on everyone in the vicinity and ears do also play a part in listening out for vehicles.

pilotError
Feb 14, 2007, 08:37 AM
This has to be one of the dumbest laws I've heard of in a long time.

It's entirely unenforceable and will just serve to be some lawyers meal ticket.

I wish these law makers would jump back to reality instead of creating laws to fleece its citizens in small dollar amounts.

dmw007
Feb 14, 2007, 11:16 AM
iPods are iPods. People can still look both ways before crossing the road.


I agree, banning the use of iPods will not necessarily cause people to pay more attention when crossing the road. :rolleyes:

Thomas Veil
Feb 14, 2007, 01:11 PM
There is such a thing as carrying laws "for the public good" too far. Yes, if you're walking in traffic with music pounding in your ears, you're an idiot. But this is just nanny-state nonsense. If the problem is really that prevalent, a public education campaign would be a much better idea.

dswoodley
Feb 14, 2007, 06:45 PM
The nanny government is officially of control if this passes. Will the government also forbid me from looking at my watch? What if I am deaf? Will it force me to get a companion who has good hearing?

dllavaneras
Feb 14, 2007, 06:52 PM
Wow. That's a dumb law...

Abstract
Feb 14, 2007, 07:30 PM
Yes, if you're walking in traffic with music pounding in your ears, you're an idiot. But this is just nanny-state nonsense.

How does it make you an idiot? I can multitask. I can listen to my iPod and look both ways before crossing the street to make sure things are safe. I can continue to look around me to make sure that all cars are still stopped and not charging towards me.

Like I said, people who don't look both ways are the ones who are in the most danger. I don't think they should be fined, but if you're going to fine someone, then fine those people. People without iPods can get hit by cars too.

baseballman1243
Feb 14, 2007, 07:34 PM
I live in NY, and I feel stupid to say, that I actually almost got hit a few times just cuz I was so into my music. So its not so bad...but cops wont give a crap, cuz they never care about any of that non-important stuff.