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tazo
May 26, 2003, 10:34 PM
I am so utterly disgusted with FOX entertainment. I mean they are coming out with a show called, American Juniors, in which children sing as best as they can, try and win a competition, but their parents get to complain along the way. i can just imagine a FOX exec talking to the shareholders, "I betcha we could make a show about people killing themselves with powertools, we'll call it Americans-who-kill-themselves-with-powertools-idol.

Augh, it makes me sick and any other person who is not looking forward to a '24/7 (see jim brown's book, 24/7, to see what I mean) situation, should as well.

MrMacMan
May 26, 2003, 10:42 PM
Man that show is gonna bomb, it is a horrible idea... :eek:

you have a link for that?

shadowfax
May 26, 2003, 10:42 PM
they found s pretty good cure for this. i like to call it "not watching TV."

throw that sh** away. americans made me sick long before fox came around. so did a lot of others.

Sun Baked
May 26, 2003, 10:45 PM
About the only thing they really haven't shown an interest in is making a reality shown based on the upcoming executions of the two people in Utah.

"Death by Firing Squad" and the live two-night finale at 12:01am on June 27 & 28.

applemacdude
May 26, 2003, 10:50 PM
i hated that show with monica lewinski in it...did they really ha ve to cancel family guy:(

tazo
May 26, 2003, 10:51 PM
Here are some links:

http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1158

http://www.fox.com/juniors/

http://www.sirlinksalot.net/americanjuniors.html

-tazo

MrMacMan
May 26, 2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by applemacdude
i hated that show with monica lewinski in it...did they really ha ve to cancel family guy:(

yeah Family Guy rules, oh well I watch the old eps on Cartoon Network at 11 PM ( on there 'adult swim' lineup)

dubbelhund
May 26, 2003, 11:22 PM
hey have you ever watched "extreme make-overs"? It is so unbelievably ****ed up. it is says a lot in which direction we are heading. American tv is the worst piece of **** I have ever seen (and no, I don't watch it regularly). Its only purpose is to make dumb people even dumber...

kettle
May 27, 2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
they found s pretty good cure for this. i like to call it "not watching TV.

That's the Badger!

Step one of how to improve personal well being.

shadowfax
May 27, 2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by dubbelhund
hey have you ever watched "extreme make-overs"? It is so unbelievably ****ed up. you'd never be able to guess that from the title, hehe.

trebblekicked
May 27, 2003, 02:27 AM
i'm with shadowfax on this one...it's as easy as not watching. unfortunately, all that does is make it even harder for good shows to survive (see: Upright Citizens Brigade, Undeclared, Mr. Show). the lowest common denominator rules american entertainment. if you want to see something good, go take in a play or something. television is the outlet mall of entertainment. for every "Scrubs", there's four hundred "8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter". if you don't have time to sift through the crap, shop at the mall (or go online;))

Kethoticus
May 27, 2003, 02:57 AM
I'm an American and proud of it. But there are things about my society that do embarrass me, like our TV.

Monica Lewinsky, a woman who committed adultery with the president of the United States, is being rewarded with her own talk show. Anna Nicole is a fruitcake, but has her own show. FOX news, which I watch regularly, hires the likes of Ollie North, a criminal, as a military/foreign policy commentator.

"Reality" TV, in my opinion, is for a common mentality, for people who do not have lives of their own (snobby as that might sound). The same for all these debasing morning talk shows. I swear, American TV looks a lot like something Orwell's Proles would regularly enjoy.

Then there's Nickelodeon. I'm watching this one morning with my stepdaughter-to-be, and what do I see, but what could be classified as child porn: 14/15-year old girls dressed and dancing like Brittainy Spears.

Yes I agree: the TV is the Idiot's Box. I do enjoy it, but there are plenty of things that I screen out. I love sci-fi shows like Enterprise and SG1. I love Nick@Nite. I like the Discovery Channel and the Cartoon Channel. I also enjoy FOX news a lot (in spite of some of its questionable commentators). But many of these idiotic things coming out are usually replaced by a DVD or a trip to the web or my Maya 4.5 book.

tazo
May 27, 2003, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Kethoticus

American TV looks a lot like something Orwell's Proles would regularly enjoy.


Likening all americans to homeless bums who are similar to the proles is somewhat rude don't you think? Why don't you just call all americans 'dalits'. :rolleyes:

Potus
May 27, 2003, 09:21 AM
T.V. is often aimed at the lowest possible denominator. The networks know that most people in the United States are undereducated members of the booboise hence the commodification of the news: "All OJ all the time". "New! Exciting! War on Iraq at 11 p.m.!" "Laci Peterson Speaks to a Tortilla From Her Watery Grave!"

When news becomes entertainment and entertainment becomes exploitation it's certainly not the viewers who benefit.

Kaching! Kaching!

That said, there are shows worth watching on television: the Triple Crown is an example of an occasional sports events that's televised every year but doesn't drone on and on. Six Feet Under. The Wire. Sesame Street. Curb Your Enthusiasm.

phrancpharmD
May 27, 2003, 09:35 AM
All this and pending FCC deregulation decision coming this summer really makes me glad I don't flush $50 a month down the crapper on cable.

mactastic
May 27, 2003, 09:37 AM
If I remember correctly, I believe there will be a show this fall similiar to "Idol" but it is to look for a new political candidate to run for president in '04. The "winner" will be given a national platform to speak their views and get the all important name recognition. They will then be given the opportunity (and financial backing to at least get started) to campaign. However with the voting irregularites coming to light with "Idol" this may turn into another florida debacle!

shadowfax
May 27, 2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Kethoticus
I swear, American TV looks a lot like something Orwell's Proles would regularly enjoy. Originally posted by tazo
Likening all americans to homeless bums who are similar to the proles is somewhat rude don't you think? Why don't you just call all americans 'dalits'. :rolleyes: umm, i don't see an offence in calling us proles, per se, except that it's inaccurate. it's not overly pejorative though. what would be more of a proper analogy is likening us to the soma-addicts of Huxley's World. we don't live in an openly oppressive world in America. anyone who thinks that needs to visit some other countries i could name, or, you know, actually read Orwell's book.

Americans' opinions get swayed by television, a little box that streams soothing entertainment to them at every hour of the day.

granted, that's not totally accurate, but i know way way too many people who come home from work and watch TV from 6:00 to 10:00, when they go to bed. they never read books. never educate themselves... deeeeee skusting!

wdlove
May 27, 2003, 10:52 AM
The only way that the shows will be cancelled is by the power of our clicker. All these shows seem to run in phases. Such as Westerns and Game Shows.
I'm sure that the reality show phase will end at some point. The only reality shows that I watch are "Survivor" & "Big Brother." My favorite is "Survivior!"

applemacdude
May 27, 2003, 12:12 PM
but fox does have the simpsons.....

Mr. Anderson
May 27, 2003, 12:37 PM
Can't stand any of the 'reality' shows. I went over to a friends house over the weekend and they had The Bachelor on and were glued to the 'draaaama'.

Uhg. Time for a change. But its going to be a while and more shows will continue for many seasons to come.

I'm just glad I have digital cable and have a good selection of shows to watch when I'm feeling like it.

D

wdlove
May 27, 2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Can't stand any of the 'reality' shows. I went over to a friends house over the weekend and they had The Bachelor on and were glued to the 'draaaama'.

Uhg. Time for a change. But its going to be a while and more shows will continue for many seasons to come.

I'm just glad I have digital cable and have a good selection of shows to watch when I'm feeling like it.

D

What kind of shows do you like to watch Mr. Anderson? I have personally decreased by TV watching signifcantly. The secret to longevity is keeping the mind active. TV is mindless for the most part. Being in the Internet is great because it uses the mind! ;)

Sun Baked
May 27, 2003, 04:40 PM
I'm glad I don't know what channel the Bravo Network is on in the area, their spinoff of the reality style show that just finished filming doesn't sound like something I'd like to watch.

The "Boy Meets Boy" show twist where they pay some "straight" men to tease the poor partner seeking boy may be a little cruel. :rolleyes:

tazo
May 27, 2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Potus
T.V. is often aimed at the lowest possible denominator. The networks know that most people in the United States are undereducated members of the booboise hence the commodification of the news: "All OJ all the time". "New! Exciting! War on Iraq at 11 p.m.!" "Laci Peterson Speaks to a Tortilla From Her Watery Grave!"

When news becomes entertainment and entertainment becomes exploitation it's certainly not the viewers who benefit.

Kaching! Kaching!

That said, there are shows worth watching on television: the Triple Crown is an example of an occasional sports events that's televised every year but doesn't drone on and on. Six Feet Under. The Wire. Sesame Street. Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Yeah a cureb your enthusiasn fan, a new season of it starts first week of June :):) I can't wait. what is your fave episode? Mine is probably the Shaq episode, or the one where Larry David insults the guy at the poker game, he gets called a wife beater. ahh I was a seinfeld fan so its understandable my liking of CYE :)

-tazo

jefhatfield
May 27, 2003, 08:58 PM
i don't mind the idol/24/bernie mac on fox bit

i spent a good part of a decade in night college taking classes after work and i am exhausted from trying to achieve "something" with my life

now i am content (for now) to spend my weekday evenings as a couch potato and chilling out and fox seems to have a decent lineup of entertainment...and it takes no thinking which is nice for a change

if it wasn't fox, i would probably go to some other station and get into a few shows there

i say this as i have just signed up for four months of night class, (but i have an excuse ;) ... starting in august, learning visual basic...thrills, but it was the only time the class was offered and i want to take the class along with a few others to keep the enrollment to at least 15 students so the school doesn't cancel the class for a second semester in a row

it seems that since the fall of the dot.com, the general feeling around the region has made young students want to study anything but computer science

there is still a need for computer geeks but since everybody in the world and their mother (who know computing) moved to northern california during dot.com and can't afford to move out now, it will be a long time before there is job security in this field where i live

Kethoticus
May 28, 2003, 01:40 AM
...you completely misread me. I likened those who immerse themselves in garbage TV to the Proles. I was making no broad generalizations about American society as a whole, nor was I suggesting that the American gov't was as oppressive as Orwell's Oceania. Yes, I did indeed read the book. Quite deeply, in fact.

Not sure how you guys got anything like that from what I wrote.

shadowfax
May 28, 2003, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Kethoticus
...you completely misread me. I likened those who immerse themselves in garbage TV to the Proles. I was making no broad generalizations about American society as a whole, nor was I suggesting that the American gov't was as oppressive as Orwell's Oceania. Yes, I did indeed read the book. Quite deeply, in fact.

Not sure how you guys got anything like that from what I wrote. i still don't see how you think the proles have such thoughtless tastes. i mean he really never goes into that a whole lot. they sing folk songs over and over and sell antiques. they don't even use telescreens, really. they just don't seem hedonistic enough for american TV. granted, i blew up at you, but my issue is not tazo's. you can insult americans all you want, to a point.

ibookin'
May 28, 2003, 02:57 AM
For those of you who think that American TV is terrible I would suggest that you stop watching Fox. Beyond The Simpsons, they have pretty much nothing of any value on, and even The Simpsons is getting a little tired.

If you want to see some good TV, flip on over to some of the cable networks, where you can find stuff like The Shield (on FX), Family Guy (used to be on Fox, now showing reruns on Cartoon Network), The Daily Show (on Comedy Central), not to mention the original programming on HBO.

Or, if there's nothing good on and you HAVE to stare at the screen, watch a DVD.

I think Shadowfax has the best idea. If you don't like it just turn it off.

Wardofsky
May 28, 2003, 06:57 AM
The Aussie version of American Idol is coming to America.

And it has the most original title.

Austrlian Idol.

Potus
May 28, 2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Kethoticus
...you completely misread me. I likened those who immerse themselves in garbage TV to the Proles. I was making no broad generalizations about American society as a whole, nor was I suggesting that the American gov't was as oppressive as Orwell's Oceania. Yes, I did indeed read the book. Quite deeply, in fact.

Not sure how you guys got anything like that from what I wrote.

But had you been making broad generalizations they would have been accurate although the economic effects have not yet been widely felt...

Potus
May 28, 2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
i still don't see how you think the proles have such thoughtless tastes. i mean he really never goes into that a whole lot. they sing folk songs over and over and sell antiques. they don't even use telescreens, really. they just don't seem hedonistic enough for american TV. granted, i blew up at you, but my issue is not tazo's. you can insult americans all you want, to a point.

True, it's really the outer party that is the most regimented.

wdlove
May 28, 2003, 07:39 PM
Always the best thing to avoid disgust is to turn off the TV. Much more to be gained by reading or using a computer. Nothing better than an active mind, it's a shame to waste!

MacFan25
May 28, 2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by tazo
I mean they are coming out with a show called, American Juniors, in which children sing as best as they can, try and win a competition, but their parents get to complain along the way.
That show is probably gong to be really dumb. I can't believe how some of those parents get so wrapped up in their kid's singing contests. :rolleyes:

pivo6
May 28, 2003, 11:45 PM
As a parent, I can't believe that other parents would subject their children to this crap. I for one won't be watching. It's shows like this that have my wife and I contemplating dropping cable altogether. I live in a rural area, and I might be able to get 1 or 2 channels without cable. Of course if we do get rid of cable TV, we can now afford cable/dsl.

Kethoticus
May 29, 2003, 12:09 AM
Never thought you "blew up at me", just felt that you misunderstood me.

I used the proles analogy because they were entertained (and took seriously) the entertainment the state put out, songs and such that were mixed together in and spit out from a kaleidoscope-like mechanism. They never thought deeply enough about what they were singing to themselves to figure out just how shallow the state's garbage was. This came from a crudeness, a shallowness in their culture, and the lack of education that helped to spawn that.

And I'll say it one last time: I was not making broad generalizations about America as a whole.

shadowfax
May 29, 2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Kethoticus
Never thought you "blew up at me", just felt that you misunderstood me.

I used the proles analogy because they were entertained (and took seriously) the entertainment the state put out, songs and such that were mixed together in and spit out from a kaleidoscope-like mechanism. They never thought deeply enough about what they were singing to themselves to figure out just how shallow the state's garbage was. This came from a crudeness, a shallowness in their culture, and the lack of education that helped to spawn that. ah, yeah, that's true. the issue i would stake with the analogy is that the whole propaganda or what call you it was so very folksy, you know. not nearly so liberated, morally, as american TV, which really makes me think of the sexual mores of Brave New World a lot more.

Kethoticus
May 29, 2003, 01:13 AM
...me thinks that there may be elements of both 1984 and Brave New World. I believe it was Mischief who made a similar comment a few weeks back, making the analogy of TV-to-Soma.

phrancpharmD
May 29, 2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by pivo6
As a parent, I can't believe that other parents would subject their children to this crap. I for one won't be watching. It's shows like this that have my wife and I contemplating dropping cable altogether. I live in a rural area, and I might be able to get 1 or 2 channels without cable. Of course if we do get rid of cable TV, we can now afford cable/dsl.

I know what you mean; it's almost like Fox is trying to market the show to the same parents who holler obscenities at their children's sporting events. This show is for those people, not for any kids watching. My wife and I ditched cable about five years ago and haven't looked back. It repulses me how my parents can stay on the couch all day long on Saturday and Sunday flipping between the 100 or so channels Comcast shoves down their throats; DSL is a much better use for my $50 / month any day. . .

tazo
May 29, 2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by phrancpharmD
I know what you mean; it's almost like Fox is trying to market the show to the same parents who holler obscenities at their children's sporting events. This show is for those people, not for any kids watching. My wife and I ditched cable about five years ago and haven't looked back. It repulses me how my parents can stay on the couch all day long on Saturday and Sunday flipping between the 100 or so channels Comcast shoves down their throats; DSL is a much better use for my $50 / month any day. . .

The same could be said about any person who sits at his desk all day lonh on saturday and sunday, surfing the internet.

Don't be such a hypocrite :cool:

phrancpharmD
May 29, 2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by tazo
The same could be said about any person who sits at his desk all day lonh on saturday and sunday, surfing the internet.

Don't be such a hypocrite :cool:

Yeah, it would be hypocritical of me to say what I said if I DID sit around all weekend surfing the 'net; maybe then I could devote enought time to these forums to average 10 - 20 posts every day. . .
:p

Foxer
May 29, 2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by phrancpharmD
Yeah, it would be hypocritical of me to say what I said if I DID sit around all weekend surfing the 'net; maybe then I could devote enought time to these forums to average 10 - 20 posts every day. . .
:p

touche...

Foxer
May 29, 2003, 10:48 AM
My two cents on TV and its "crapulence."

I have DirecTV. I love it, but i have it for one reason only - to watch San Francisco Giants baseball. (And because I just HATE the cable companies.) When the Giants aren't on, and my wife isn't watch something on HGTV, I tune into shows that educational in nature, and Simpsons and Seinfeld.) I don't read much fiction, and I don't watch much "fiction" TV. I'm not a news junkie either, but the multitude of channels showing documentaries and other such programming is fine.

Commerical, i.e. mass-audience, TV is pap. "Boy Meets Boy" and "American Idol Junior" are just further evidence that we are prime targets for smitting by the Almighty. But to dismiss all 300 channels because E! shows the Anna Nicole is a bit too broad.

Spending all your time in front of the TV is stupid. So is spending all your time in front of the mac, or a book, or in the kitchen, or at work, or at the gym, or in the yard.... You get the picture. Balance in all things, people.

jefhatfield
May 29, 2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by phrancpharmD
Yeah, it would be hypocritical of me to say what I said if I DID sit around all weekend surfing the 'net; maybe then I could devote enought time to these forums to average 10 - 20 posts every day. . .
:p

hey, even five posts per day is very hard to keep up over time...like me:p

tazo
May 29, 2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by phrancpharmD
Yeah, it would be hypocritical of me to say what I said if I DID sit around all weekend surfing the 'net; maybe then I could devote enought time to these forums to average 10 - 20 posts every day. . .
:p

:rolleyes:

this is post #666, :::shudders::

phrancpharmD
May 29, 2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by tazo
:rolleyes:

this is post #666, :::shudders::

Congratulations! I think my original reply to you was my 30th, so milestones for us both. . .

Raid
May 29, 2003, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Kethoticus
I used the proles analogy because they were entertained (and took seriously) the entertainment the state put out, songs and such that were mixed together in and spit out from a kaleidoscope-like mechanism. They never thought deeply enough about what they were singing to themselves to figure out just how shallow the state's garbage was. This came from a crudeness, a shallowness in their culture, and the lack of education that helped to spawn that.

I can totally see your argument, and really it's a comment on today's society...yet it's not as clear cut as Orwell put it in 1984. In 2003, we have people who will watch these shows and be disgusted but continue to watch! (I call this the car wreck phenomena). Worse still; we know that politicians are corrupt, leaders are chosen out of questionable processes, and wars are waged on feeble excuses and intelligence. Yet for some reason we let all this get through unpunished and with out reform to the system. That is the truly scary reality of the current age my friends, that we are all becoming armchair complainers and not proactive voices in the fight to make things better. ah well enough with my harsh assessment on the state of the world! Let's watch more Jerry Springer and get that comfortable feeling of superiority for another hour or so!

"Man why can't they bring back a good show like B.J. and the Bear? Now there's a concept I can't get enough of; a man and his monkey." -Mallrats

wdlove
May 29, 2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by tazo
The same could be said about any person who sits at his desk all day lonh on saturday and sunday, surfing the internet.

Don't be such a hypocrite :cool:

Moderation is always the key. We all need to have various interests, it's the spice of life. Our family deserves some of our time also! ;)

shadowfax
May 29, 2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by tazo
The same could be said about any person who sits at his desk all day lonh on saturday and sunday, surfing the internet.

Don't be such a hypocrite :cool: not necessarily. not all forms of entertainment are equal, both within the realm of television and within different realms of entertainment. you could spend the weekend making "yes-man" affirmitive and useless posts on a forum, and that would be pretty pathetic. you could spend the weekend involving yourself in deep discussion and helping people out with problems via your posts. that would be different. just like watching redeeming television programs would be different from watching network television all weekend, which probably 99.9% of all people who would watch that much TV do.

the internet, much more so than TV, has vast possibilities for being used in a much more constructive way.

Potus
May 29, 2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax

the internet, much more so than TV, has vast possibilities for being used in a much more constructive way.

I think Shadowfax is onto something here. Television is completely passive (despite the "voting" gimmicks). The internet can be passive but it can also be a source of stimulation, e.g. an interesting oppositional discussion Shadowfax and I had a while ago, looking up paintings by Polish artists, researching sea snails...all of which activities I've done in the recent past, and all of which caused me to look at things differently or look at different things.

Foxer
May 29, 2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Potus
I think Shadowfax is onto something here. Television is completely passive (despite the "voting" gimmicks).

but some of us are active for 12 hours a day at work and are looking for a little "passive" when we get home. I always set aside an hour a night to read, some time to e-mail all while I interact with my wife, but my brain really values the 1-2 TV hours I give it to absorb rather than produce....

shadowfax
May 29, 2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Foxer
but some of us are active for 12 hours a day at work and are looking for a little "passive" when we get home. I always set aside an hour a night to read, some time to e-mail all while I interact with my wife, but my brain really values the 1-2 TV hours I give it to absorb rather than produce.... but the internet has the advantage of being both passive and active. you can sit and read stuff (like a forum) and not participate at all. you can also listen to the radio and watch some TV on the internet, heh.

i am not totally dissing television. if you read daily, hell, i couldn't complain about you if you drove home from work at 150 mph. reading, i think, is one of the best things to do. most regular readers i know are very intelligent, cultured people. it's the lifestyle of just watching TV and hardly anything else at night that rather bothers me.

MacFan25
May 29, 2003, 04:02 PM
Getting back on topic...does anyone know when this show is going to start? Some of the reality TV is good (ie. american idol), but this new show is just pushing it.

patrick0brien
May 29, 2003, 04:04 PM
-All

All good points as an American, looking at American television, it's embarrassing, but try this:

My significant other was in Prague on vacation in February. There, in a nightclub she saw on a mounted TV, an advertisment for Jackass: the Movie - dubbed to German (that's got to be funny on it's own, the grunts of an ultrawedgie? In Deutsche?!? :D )

Well, she made herself as small as possible after seeing what America was exporting overseas.

Upon her return and telling me this, it occured to us that if this is what we were exporting and what the rest of the world was judging us by, hey! We got it made! Talk about being vastly underestimated on the world stage. We could surprise them at every turn.

Food for thought.

Heck, look at it this way, one of the cult favorites here in the States is Monty Python. <sarcasm to the point>Who knew that the British armed forces were tougher than a bunch of old ladies with purses as weapons reenacting the Battle of Waterloo?!</sarcasm to the point>

Personally, I don't have a TV schedule. But I try to catch what we classify as 'Stupid People' with shows like "World's Scariest Police Videos (with John Bunnel)", "RealTV", and TLC's "What Were You Thinking?" as I'm a terriffic fan of social Darwinism and the Darwin Awards.

"If you're too stupid to live, please die. You're stealing my oxygen."

shadowfax
May 29, 2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by patrick0brien
Upon her return and telling me this, it occured to us that if this is what we were exporting and what the rest of the world was judging us by, hey! We got it made! Talk about being vastly underestimated on the world stage. We could surprise them at every turn.

Food for thought. we could... the problem is, we don't :(

if we could export this to them without watching it ourselves, that would work. heh.

wdlove
May 29, 2003, 07:51 PM
What is good about the computer and the Internet is that it's active. You must be actively using your mind. If passive nothing would function.

patrick0brien
Jun 1, 2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by MacFan25
Getting back on topic...does anyone know when this show is going to start? Some of the reality TV is good (ie. american idol), but this new show is just pushing it.

-MacFan25

Just saw an ad interrupting my Stargate SG-1 viewage.

June 3rd.

This is the first time I've seen an ad for myself.

All I can say is "You've got to be <fargin'> kidding me."

Sun Baked
Jun 1, 2003, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by patrick0brien
Personally, I don't have a TV schedule. But I try to catch what we classify as 'Stupid People' with shows like "World's Scariest Police Videos (with John Bunnel)", "RealTV", and TLC's "What Were You Thinking?" as I'm a terriffic fan of social Darwinism and the Darwin Awards.

"If you're too stupid to live, please die. You're stealing my oxygen." Yes shows that collate the real life "Stupid Human Tricks" into the unscripted world of the stupidest criminals/drivers style prime time are always better than the "Candid Camera" style -- where they're lying in wait for you to mess up on camera.

Potus
Jun 1, 2003, 09:05 AM
American Idol is pretty harmless but the performers seem to be all technique and no soul. Which pretty much sums up American society so the show is well-named.

scem0
Jun 1, 2003, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Potus
American Idol is pretty harmless but the performers seem to be all technique and no soul. Which pretty much sums up American society so the show is well-named.

how sad but true. Yeah American Idol contestants suck. Kelly Clarkson is an OK singer, even if she isn't different sounding, and doesn't stand out from the crowd. Same with most of the contestants. But people like Trenyce should win, who have style, flair, soul, and can sing. But since american idol is a 'shallow' competition, Kimberly Caldwell should have won. Becasue she was pretty damn hot, great voice, and she had star quality.

Sigh.... Ruben and Clay?!?!? Why were they the last 2 contestants.... :o :rolleyes:

MacFan25
Jun 1, 2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by scem0
But since american idol is a 'shallow' competition, Kimberly Caldwell should have won. Becasue she was pretty damn hot, great voice, and she had star quality.
She would have probably been a good 'American Idol', but I guess that the people liked Ruben better, because thats who won.

I think Clay should have won over Ruben...but I really don't car that much. They are both kind of famous now, and are getting record deals.

MacFan25
Jun 1, 2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by patrick0brien
-MacFan25

Just saw an ad interrupting my Stargate SG-1 viewage.

June 3rd.

This is the first time I've seen an ad for myself.

All I can say is "You've got to be <fargin'> kidding me."
So...its on Tuesday. i may just have to watch a few mins. of it to see how lame it is. :rolleyes: ;)