I Just Ordered a PS3

[gloss]

And as SOON as I pressed the button I screamed "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!"

I'm paying $600 to watch Casino Royale in HD. There's quite definitely something wrong with me.

[nickster9224]

yea, you couldve just bought a 360, IMHO

[Coded-Dude]

you've just invested in an HD media center that will have 10 years of life in it.......good investment mate.:D

[raggedjimmi]

I thought it was a games console :confused: or some kind of super computer :D

When do 4D games start coming out?

[apple1984]

My condolences :p

[booksacool1]

Considering its the cheapest blu-ray player yet, and it includes a PS3, pretty darn sweet :D

[Coded-Dude]

I thought it was a games console :confused: or some kind of super computer :D

When do 4D games start coming out?

yes.......yes........and soon! :p

[zap2]

you've just invested in an HD media center that will have 10 years of life in it.......good investment mate.:D

:rolleyes: In ten year, the PS3 will suck. I don't want a 600 dollar console for 10 years, how about 5 years for 300?

[Coded-Dude]

:rolleyes: In ten year, the PS3 will suck. I don't want a 600 dollar console for 10 years, how about 5 years for 300?
well your already down to 4 years then........better hurry up and buy before its not worth the investment anymore.
(i.e. buy the NEWER version and all NEW accessories and hope its backwards compatible since you already spent 300+ on last-gen games)

[zap2]

well your already down to 4 years then........better hurry up and buy before its not worth the investment anymore.
(i.e. buy the NEWER version and all NEW accessories and hope its backwards compatible since you already spent 300+ on last-gen games)

even 4 years is enough for me honestly...plus I can't ask a company to support a console based on the time I buy it, only when they ship it.

As for support for last gen games, I think its here to stay, and it its not I'll keep my old system

[Coded-Dude]

even 4 years is enough for me honestly...
and thats why I honestly believe Microsoft will never reach the 100 million mark.....for any of their future consoles
Not that its a bad thing, but I like the idea of spending more on games and less on hardware(the console itself).

[zap2]

and thats why I honestly believe Microsoft will never reach the 100 million mark.....for any of their future consoles
Not that its a bad thing, but I like the idea of spending more on games and less on hardware(the console itself).

I don't really care about the MS reaching certain goals, as long as they stay in the market..

[Coded-Dude]

While I agree that staying in the market is good for everybody, I don't think they willever reach their goal of "beating" Sony.
Simply because; per current trends, Xbox consoles don't have the longevity that PlayStation consoles are currently enjoying.

Of course, thats an entire topic in and of itself:
It will be interesting to see what kind of impact there is for releasing "gens" farther and farther apart.
Launching a year after somebody is one thing, but launching two plus years later kind of takes the whole "generation" classification and makes it a moot point IMHO

[sikkinixx]

then just return/cancel the order. :rolleyes:

[zap2]

and all the wii lovers to get in how great it is...


Were in this thread does anyone talk about the Wii? I talked about system live, at about 5 years which will most likely be around the Wii's live, but we directly talked about Xbox 360.

So talk about 5 years life time, which the Wii will have (about), thats bad. But talk about the 360(the system itself, not a general lifetime) and that ok?

[darkwing]

Gloss got a PS3. Let's start another "post your code" thread. :D

[sikkinixx]

Were in this thread does anyone talk about the Wii? I talked about system live, at about 5 years which will most likely be around the Wii's live, but we directly talked about Xbox 360.

So talk about 5 years life time, which the Wii will have (about), thats bad. But talk about the 360(the system itself, not a general lifetime) and that ok?

fine, i'll keep it to myself :P

[2nyRiggz]

Congrats on your purchase...in the next couple of months the games will start rolling out and you won't regret it that much so enjoy and welcome to the PS3 experience....which is not bad at all.


By the way...Casino Royale is kick arse dude.


Bless

[e²Studios]

Virtua Fighter 5 is sweet :)

F1 is next week :D

[sikkinixx]

By the way...Casino Royale is kick arse dude.




Thats an understatment of the year :D I saw it 4 times in the theatre

[gloss]

Well, my reasoning was thus:

- I don't like shooters on consoles, so the 360 has very little pull for me.

- Being a Japanese console, the PS3 is very likely to wind up with a catalog of games which suits my tastes.

- Blu-ray seems to be picking up quite a bit of momentum on the HD movie front.

- The PS3 is by far the Blu-ray player with the highest value-proposition. If Blu-ray ends up failing, I have a game machine, rather than a brick.

- My shoulder devil made me.

And Casino Royale was indeed a blast.

[pionata]

And as SOON as I pressed the button I screamed "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!"

I'm paying $600 to watch Casino Royale in HD. There's quite definitely something wrong with me.

Its going to be great, the takeoff is slow, but the stuff comming looks amazing.

[wako]

you've just invested in an HD media center that will have 10 years of life in it.......good investment mate.:D

sony fan....

how is your betamax tape collection coming along?


If history has taught us anything, Sony's proprietary formats will never succeed anywhere outside of Japan.

[MacRumorUser]

I like the PS3 - it has some big flaws, but it has it's strengths too.

Online gaming is still better on the 360 and I dont see that changing this generation, but PSN is certainly a step in the right direction.

The BluRay remote control for the PS3 is DAMN big and ugly though. Seriously it's like a remote control for the 'penally challenged'. Why does it have to be so long and with so many superflous buttons ?

I'm liking the still burdening PSN marketplace, I like the pricing structure.

And game wise, I'm enjoying Resistance more than I thought I would and
Full Auto 2 despite it's flaws I still find highly enjoyable game underneath.

Genji surprised me, as I hate the camera, and it can be fustrating as hell at times and the framerate takes a hit in battle, but yet I've enjoyed it far more than I thought possible, and I think the cutscenes and story hold it together quite well. It's certainly better than the early reviews painted.

NFS carbon is errr - well like somthing you'd squeeze out of your ass cheeks.

I have Fight Night Round Round 3 coming (bought from marketplace here) & Virtua Fighter 5 and will be getting Motorstorm, F1 in march.

BluRay movie wise well I only have Underworld : Evolutions & SilentHill but quality wise they are great, but not any different to my 360 HD-DVD player.

[Haoshiro]

While I agree that staying in the market is good for everybody, I don't think they willever reach their goal of "beating" Sony.
Simply because; per current trends, Xbox consoles don't have the longevity that PlayStation consoles are currently enjoying.

I think this "Sony systems have a 10 year life span" thing is being blown out of proportion with disregard for circumstances. PlayStation systems have been hugely popular, if a company sells as much as they are then it's going to have more longevity just because of it's market penetration.

Likewise, there is no reason to think that if ANY system (360 or otherwise) was to gain mass popularity (33-50% marketshare) it will probably live a good 10 years. All that really means is that games are still getting made for the system and you can still buy the hardware up until it's abotu two generations behind.

Consider the NES, released in 1983 in Japan, it had a good 50 games released there in 1993. In USA, released in 1985 and had many games released in 1994 (a couple in 1995 as well). That's 9 years.

As long as the user base is large and active a system isn't going to magically die after five years. I wouldn't be suprised in the least if 360 lasts just as long as PS3. Wii will be the exception here, my guess is well see Wii2 in 5 or less years... but with backwards compatibility this "lifespan" idea gets changed again...

[gkarris]

Well, my reasoning was thus:

- I don't like shooters on consoles, so the 360 has very little pull for me.

- Being a Japanese console, the PS3 is very likely to wind up with a catalog of games which suits my tastes.

- Blu-ray seems to be picking up quite a bit of momentum on the HD movie front.

- The PS3 is by far the Blu-ray player with the highest value-proposition. If Blu-ray ends up failing, I have a game machine, rather than a brick.

- My shoulder devil made me.

And Casino Royale was indeed a blast.


Yep - it's all about GAMES!

I remember when the XBox was coming out. Some game store person told me, "It'll NEVER sell here because it won't sell in Japan!"

I thought to myself, the games I always liked were American games (space shooters, Mechwarrier, Quake). And XBox was coming out with Halo, Mechattack, etc. I pre-ordered an XBox, and never looked back.

As far as Japanese stuff, I've always liked Nintendo. I'm enjoying that system also!

The only thing I hear as far as PS3 for movies is that the 1080p is only in 60 Hz (rather than 24 fps). Only strict movie buffs will care. Sony may fix in its next software update. Also, you don't get the front display that movie players have. Don't forget you will also need to get the remote control (the game controller I hear isn't the greatest for movies, hence my XB360 HD DVD kit came with a remote).

BTW: "Casino Royale" is awesome (waits for Blu-ray players to go down in price).

[Coded-Dude]

sony fan....

how is your betamax tape collection coming along?


If history has taught us anything, Sony's proprietary formats will never succeed anywhere outside of Japan.

If history has taught us anything, its that the Sony console will win. :rolleyes:
People that bring up Beta Max are generally uninformed consumers.........but thanks for playing.

What are you going to tell me next, the porn industry has been rejected by the BDA. :p


[EDIT] @ Haoshiro
I do agree that with mass market penetration MS may(and most likely will) try harder to support their consoles longer and make them more backwards compatible.
But as it stands, they are showing little signs of supporting the "last-gen" hardware. Although considering the profit margins that is somewhat understandable.
My most notable point however, was that it will be interesting to see how consumers deal with consoles that get released farther and farther apart.
I have no doubts we won't be seeing a PS4 until at least 2012, and can almost assuredly predict that a new xbox will be out way before that.
Will industry consumers continue to stick with their company of choice, putting either side on radically different timelines? Will it be the demise of one of the big 2(or 3)?
(releasingconsoles too close together or waiting too long to release a successor)
Or will roadmaps begin to stay in close proximity to one another again......

All interesting questions.

[saunders45]

If history has taught us anything, its that the Sony console will win. :rolleyes:

It's also taught us that you can only be on top twice before you fall.....:rolleyes:

[Father Jack]

You can't really go wrong buying Sony games machines. History proves that.

FJ

[MacRumorUser]

You can't really go wrong buying Sony games machines. History proves that.

FJ


History proves feck all.

You cant go wrong buying a sega... oh wait
You cant go wrong buying an atari... oh wait
you cant go wrong buying a commodore or spectrum ? who ?
You cant go wrong with an amstrad ? what's that
You cant go wrong with a more powerful, advanced movie/video playing console like the CDi... oh wait


The videogame world did not start 10 years ago. I hate to break your bubble. Learn your history and then come out with that asinine argument :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Coded-Dude]

PS3 will not fail....feel free to quote me on that. ;)

[MacRumorUser]

PS3 will not fail....feel free to quote me on that. ;)

I agree. I dont think any of the consoles will fail this generation.

I also do think the Wii has the shortest lifespan of the current crop of consoles.

[2nyRiggz]

Any system can fall if it don't have good backing...look at the great Nintendo last gen...they almost got done in if it wasn't for the handhelds.

I DON'T want ANY of the systems to go down....thats less for me if one fall.




Bless

[Father Jack]

History proves feck all.

You cant go wrong buying a sega... oh wait
You cant go wrong buying an atari... oh wait
you cant go wrong buying a commodore or spectrum ? who ?
You cant go wrong with an amstrad ? what's that
You cant go wrong with a more powerful, advanced movie/video playing console like the CDi... oh wait


The videogame world did not start 10 years ago. I hate to break your bubble. Learn your history and then come out with that asinine argument :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Surely Sony has a proven track record


FJ

[MacRumorUser]

:rolleyes: and he misses the point completely.


oh and edits his post from "sony didn't make commodore etc...." :rolleyes: when he realises how silly he has been

[mkaake]

PS3 will not fail....feel free to quote me on that. ;)

/quote




Anyway, it's amazing how a thread about a person buying a PS3 becomes a discussion of the failure or success of Sony 10 years from now.

And FWIW, none of the consoles will 'fail' - they'll all sell plenty of copies. The companies might bleed cash left and right doing it though (except nintendo). But in the end, so long as there's a choice for consumers to make, things will be good... no matter which console your brain is surgically attached to.

[Father Jack]

:rolleyes: and he misses the point completely.


oh and edits his post from "sony didn't make commodore etc...." :rolleyes: when he realises how silly he has been

Sorry, I was rather silly. :confused:


FJ

[Coded-Dude]

Anyway, it's amazing how a thread about a person buying a PS3 becomes a discussion of the failure or success of Sony 10 years from now.
Thats what happens when a few trolls pop in and say take it back, what a mistake, or Sony are teh d00m3d!


Sony has announced that its PlayStation brand has got off to its strongest ever start to the year in North America, with revenues totalling $550 million throughout January.
The figure, which includes sales of official PS3 hardware, software and accessories, has been credited to the improving supply of PS3 consoles, the ongoing success of PS2 and a year-on-year increase in PSP sales.

“We are pleased with the numbers from January as they demonstrate overall sales improvements for our legacy systems year over year and continued momentum for PS3,” SCEA’s director of communications David Karraker stated. “PSP sales in January were exceptionally strong with the system quickly closing the gap on the leading competitor.”

As was reported yesterday, NPD figures show that North American PS3 sales for the month reached 243,554. PSP, meanwhile, sold 210,719 units, a 20 per cent year on year increase. PS2 continues to power on as well, with sales of 299,352.

“With supply levels stabilising, you can expect to see increased marketing for PS3 and PS2 in weekly retail circulars, which should garner strong numbers boosted by big software launches such as Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5,” Karraker added.source (http://www.mcvuk.com/Record-January-for-PlayStation-in-North-America)

and this is kind of what I'm talking about....wouldn't MS be in a better position if they were still able to market and sell xbox as well as 360?

[raggedjimmi]

Thats what happens when a few trolls pop in and say take it back, what a mistake, or Sony are teh d00m3d!QUOTE]

I like how you quote some things and not others, like the Wii outselling the Xbox and PS3 in January, even with Wii shortages. Or the global 2x sales of DS against the PSP. Or how there have been more Wii's than PS3's sold since launch. Or that how Sony stock has just gone up recently after bad times.

Objective or selective?
Taken from the Oblivion thread - don't flame me.
:D

[QUOTE=mkaake ]Anyway, it's amazing how a thread about a person buying a PS3 becomes a discussion of the failure or success of Sony 10 years from now.
It's equally as amazing how me finding Oblivion buggy and problematic becomes a discussion on Zelda :D

[Coded-Dude]

Always with the Wii(lol).......well, you won't find me bashing it.
I am not, and have not stated that Wii is, or will do poorly.
I know its winning......whats your point? My point was PS brand is doing well, and you countered with Ninty is doing better.
But you won't find any post where I said otherwise.....its not selective quoting, it jsut wasn't part of my point.

Ninty dropped last-gen console support as well, but thats because they make it up by supporting all their previous portables.
DS is beating PSP, but PSP is going nowhere. Its actually a successful competitor.

I find it funny how you guys go on and on and on about how 360 has all these GREAT games, and PS3 has none, and the 360 is a better purchase.......but if you look at NA sales. 360 only won by a mere 50k units.

Why is that, and what will happen once the GREAT PS3 games start to roll out?

[sikkinixx]

*sobs* this discussion again

[2nyRiggz]

I like tea with gram crackers:)
.
.
:confused:


Bless

[gloss]

Shoo from my thread, y'all.

PS3 related question:

I hate the DualShock/SIXAXIS design. It feels kludgy and angled in my hands. I do, however, adore Logitech's Wireless Action controller for the PS2, which smoothed out the DualShock's rough edges very nicely. I know that Logitech currently has a wired, air-conditioned controller available for the PS3, but does anyone know if they have plans to release something similar to the Wireless Action controller for the system?

As a visual reminder:

Dualshock
http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/dualshock.jpg

Wireless Action
http://www.gamefreax.com/shop/pix/a/n/1109095405-28836.action.con.jpg

[Coded-Dude]

I'm still waiting for the banana phone! :cool:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/06/bananaphone.html

[MacRumorUser]

Shoo from my thread, y'all.

PS3 related question:

I hate the DualShock/SIXAXIS design. It feels kludgy and angled in my hands. I do, however, adore Logitech's Wireless Action controller for the PS2, which smoothed out the DualShock's rough edges very nicely. I know that Logitech currently has a wired, air-conditioned controller available for the PS3, but does anyone know if they have plans to release something similar to the Wireless Action controller for the system?


couldnt agree with you more. I have the wireless logitech on my slim ps2 and it feels a million times better in the hands than the sixaxis controller does for my ps3.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Logitech release a ps3 model, and you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be buying one too.


my logitech controller and my sixaxis controller

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1825/dscn8766jp6.jpg

[gloss]

It really is amazing what a difference it makes. The PS2 controller goes from being one of my least favorite designs to one of the most comfortable controllers I've ever had. The wireless is almost a bonus.

[killmoms]

It really is amazing what a difference it makes. The PS2 controller goes from being one of my least favorite designs to one of the most comfortable controllers I've ever had. The wireless is almost a bonus.

Completely off-topic, but I just have to say that I love your sig, gloss.

"I believe every word that man just said... because it was exactly what I wanted to hear."

[gloss]

Completely off-topic, but I just have to say that I love your sig, gloss.

"I believe every word that man just said... because it was exactly what I wanted to hear."

Aha, thank you. I actually ended up using it because another guy on this forum also had a Chambraigne quote as his sig.

I believe it was:

"Fetch daddy's blue fright wig. I must be handsome when I unleash my rage."

What an amazing episode.

[whooleytoo]

I bought a 360 HD-DVD drive yesterday (impulse buy, curious to see the quality, now that I've seen it it's gathering dust..), and funnily enough it made me think Sony have got it right with including the BluRay drive.

I think a lot of people will be getting both 360 and PS3 (and probably the Wii) for the exclusive games that invariably arrive for each console. If so, it doesn't make much sense to buy the HD-DVD drive when you'll be getting a BluRay with the PS/3 whether you like it or not. I'll be very interested to see PS/3 sales vs HD-DVD drive sales, my guess is Sony might well be already winning in those stakes.

As for the Wii, as much as I love HD graphics I can't wait to get my hands on one. If nothing else, it's likely to influence the Wii II (??) and the other "next next gen" consoles into having more motion-sensitive control schemes.

[mfacey]

sony fan....

how is your betamax tape collection coming along?


If history has taught us anything, Sony's proprietary formats will never succeed anywhere outside of Japan.

What are you going on about?

Sure Betamax didn't work out, but Sony had a good run with Mini-Disc here in Europe and even more so in Asia.

And let's not forget the CD which was a joint venture between philips and sony!

Just because they had some mishaps (I just sold my PSP) in the past doesn't mean they can't make good products. I'm not a Sony fanboy, but I'm convinced they produce some very high quality products (I love my Bravia LCD! :D).

Have fun with that PS3. I've been itching to get one but really can't justify the 600 euros that they'll be costing here! :rolleyes:

[zero2dash]

Feel confident with your purchase.

Once it picks up steam later this year/near the 1 yr mark, the games and "reasons to own one" list will increase.

It'll happen just like it happens with every other console before it, including the 360. I avoided buying the 360 for the first year and now its a solid purchase which is why I bought one Nov'06. I don't expect any less of the Ps3 this coming winter.

No mattter how asinine some of Sony's reps and higher-ups comments are and will be, you can't argue with the name "Playstation" and its proven track record of longevity, sales and 3rd party support.

[zelmo]

I hate the DualShock/SIXAXIS design. It feels kludgy and angled in my hands. I do, however, adore Logitech's Wireless Action controller for the PS2, which smoothed out the DualShock's rough edges very nicely. I know that Logitech currently has a wired, air-conditioned controller available for the PS3, but does anyone know if they have plans to release something similar to the Wireless Action controller for the system?

couldnt agree with you more. I have the wireless logitech on my slim ps2 and it feels a million times better in the hands than the sixaxis controller does for my ps3.

Truth.
I was perfectly content with the Dual Shock until I decided to go wireless and picked up the Logitech W/A. It has a great shape and the weight is excellent. The sixaxis is awfully light in comparison, and is taking some getting used to. When Logitech releases a PS3 wireless, I'll be eager to try it out.

[pionata]

The only thing I hear as far as PS3 for movies is that the 1080p is only in 60 Hz (rather than 24 fps).

That could be my new signature... lol

[stevey500]

For the short while I had the PS3... it was worth ever penny I paid for it, it's one sleek machine, built incredibly, AWESOME slotload smooth bluray drive, the memory card slots are insanely fast... the ability to play 1080 HD video with no lag what so ever off of a memory card was just awesome, memory card simulation for PS2 games, the wifi rocked, the bluetooth was awesome with a headset, linux is insanely fast, Built in software is just intense.... I've used the xbox 360 a hella lot and In MY opinion ... i really choose the PS3 over the xbox in design, software, performance, reliability, etc... just downright intense.

[gloss]

So, it got here today, and it's currently downstairs chugging away at downloading fl0w, Motorstorm, and Gran Turismo HD. No background downloading? Come on, Sony.

That said, it's pretty and big and shiny and all that. The slot-loading drive is indeed smooth, although not quite as smooth as the Wii's. It is wonderfully quiet. I appreciate that I can turn off audio output through HDMI (since I have its audio running to my receiver via TOSLINK). The Playstation store just happened to be down when I first finished getting the machine going, but it came up a few minutes ago. A bit slow, but no worse than the Wii Shop Channel.

Unfortunately, besides Motorstorm there's almost nothing releasing on the console that seems interesting to me, so it's going to be functioning almost entirely as a Blu-Ray player. I'm going to watch The Prestige tonight, so I'll report back on that later.

[greenmeanie]

Thats funny I heard on dl.tv that they are stopping cell proccessors by 2008?
Thats dosn't sound like ten years to me.

you've just invested in an HD media center that will have 10 years of life in it.......good investment mate.:D

[eenu]

Sony had a good run with Mini-Disc here in Europe and even more so in Asia.

Sorry i live in Europe as well and i have to say Mini Disc was the biggest heap of cack and never took off!

In fact i forgot it existed until i read your post!

To the OP.....enjoy your PS3 and keep posting on how your finding it.....i almost bought one the other day but i want to wait a year to avoid Rev A issues and to wait until Sony get their backwards compatibility here in Europe sorted.

[Coded-Dude]

Thats funny I heard on dl.tv that they are stopping cell proccessors by 2008?
Thats dosn't sound like ten years to me.


I'm sorry, but who "said" that? Just curious....
Go look at IBM/Sony CELL roadmaps, and then come back with some genuine information, not FUD.
Also, if you could find an official Press Release from said chip maker, stating this as fact, that would be GREAT!

[gloss]

One major issue I've encountered. I'll say ahead of time that this is not the fault of the PS3 but is extremely frustrating regardless:

The maximum bitrate in which non-HD audio on Blu-Ray is compressed is upwards of 2x the bitrate of a comparable DVD. Which is cool. What's not cool is that my old Sony receiver, which until this point has served me well, refuses to decode Dolby Digital audio above a certain bitrate threshold, meaning that during big, loud parts of movies, it simply cuts out until things quiet down again. This is frustrating.

My only solution at this time is to set the PS3 to PCM and cope with stereo sound through my big Klipsch 5.1 setup. It'll cost me at least $500 to buy a new receiver, and considering that the PS3 itself was a bit of a splurge, it'll be a couple of months before I can manage.

I'm doubly annoyed since games work fine. I bought the damn thing as a Blu-ray player and I somehow feel crippled.

[e²Studios]

One major issue I've encountered. I'll say ahead of time that this is not the fault of the PS3 but is extremely frustrating regardless:

The maximum bitrate in which non-HD audio on Blu-Ray is compressed is upwards of 2x the bitrate of a comparable DVD. Which is cool. What's not cool is that my old Sony receiver, which until this point has served me well, refuses to decode Dolby Digital audio above a certain bitrate threshold, meaning that during big, loud parts of movies, it simply cuts out until things quiet down again. This is frustrating.

My only solution at this time is to set the PS3 to PCM and cope with stereo sound through my big Klipsch 5.1 setup. It'll cost me at least $500 to buy a new receiver, and considering that the PS3 itself was a bit of a splurge, it'll be a couple of months before I can manage.

I'm doubly annoyed since games work fine. I bought the damn thing as a Blu-ray player and I somehow feel crippled.

The crippling factor is your admittedly old equipment though, hardly the PS3's fault. My HK receiver does DD, DTS, DD EX and DTS ES just fine over Toslink.

I am going to update it this year to a HK unit with HDMI support (L/PCM, TrueHD), but i wouldn't blame my PS3 for my current receivers shortcomings.

Ed

[ictiosapiens]

I must say that I'm very impressed with how the ps2 is still selling... But it makes me wonder though... Why are people still buying it??? Could it be maybe because these same people have absolutely no intention on buying the PS3 ever??? Is it really good news for sony that the ps2 is still selling??? because to me it could possibly mean really bad news for the ps3...

Of course it could also mean that people will just wait for a ps3 price drop, but I don't think those are the best economics, as I don't think a price drop of £90(ps2's value) is in the near future...

Just a thought...

[crouchy]

If history has taught us anything, Sony's proprietary formats will never succeed anywhere outside of Japan.
Phil Harrison remarking on including Blu Ray.

" It wasn't Sony's decision; it was our [SCE's] decision. We needed to have Blu-ray disc from a game design point of view. The chipsets in PS3 chew through data at such a rate that in order to build variety and detail and quality into the games, we need more than nine gigabytes. Now, the fact that we could also adopt the preeminent next generation movie format into PS3 was an added bonus, not an added cost. "

[crouchy]

Originally Posted by greenmeanie
Thats funny I heard on dl.tv that they are stopping cell proccessors by 2008?
Thats dosn't sound like ten years to me.
Laughable.

[crouchy]

So, it got here today, and it's currently downstairs chugging away at downloading fl0w, Motorstorm, and Gran Turismo HD. No background downloading? Come on, Sony.
Hmm download the firmware update.

[MacRumorUser]

Hmm download the firmware update.

hmmmm it isnt available yet :rolleyes:

[Nym]

Why do people always have to be Anti this Anti that?

Why can't we just let it be, I like Xbox, I buy Xbox, iHappy. You like Wii, you buy Wii, you happy!! WE HAPPY!
This crap about "(Insert Hate Brand Here) this and that flop and fail" is getting old. :)


Choose what you like.

[gloss]

The crippling factor is your admittedly old equipment though, hardly the PS3's fault. My HK receiver does DD, DTS, DD EX and DTS ES just fine over Toslink.

I am going to update it this year to a HK unit with HDMI support (L/PCM, TrueHD), but i wouldn't blame my PS3 for my current receivers shortcomings.

Ed

Eh, it has no issues over DTS. It's only Dolby. It's not really the fact that I have 'old' equipment, it's that this particular Sony receiver has a defective Protect circuit. Models both before and after it can function just fine.

Either way, I can rag on Sony.

[eenu]

Eh, it has no issues over DTS. It's only Dolby. It's not really the fact that I have 'old' equipment, it's that this particular Sony receiver has a defective Protect circuit. Models both before and after it can function just fine.

Either way, I can rag on Sony.

ring sony and get them to help you!

You have just bought an expensive console from them and a expensive receiver.....your pure sony they should be happy to help you!

[amtctt]

I must say that I'm very impressed with how the ps2 is still selling... But it makes me wonder though... Why are people still buying it??? Could it be maybe because these same people have absolutely no intention on buying the PS3 ever??? Is it really good news for sony that the ps2 is still selling??? because to me it could possibly mean really bad news for the ps3...


Well, it's a good system and it's cheap compared to the 360 and ps3. Ya know, more playstations sold in Japan after the ps2 came out during the first year the Xbox was out. The casual gamer waits till stuff is cheap.

[gloss]

ring sony and get them to help you!

You have just bought an expensive console from them and a expensive receiver.....your pure sony they should be happy to help you!

The receiver isn't so new, unfortunately. It is a design error on their part, but I don't think it can be fixed without them taking the unit in and resoldering various circuits.

[zero2dash]

I must say that I'm very impressed with how the ps2 is still selling... But it makes me wonder though... Why are people still buying it??? Could it be maybe because these same people have absolutely no intention on buying the PS3 ever??? Is it really good news for sony that the ps2 is still selling??? because to me it could possibly mean really bad news for the ps3...

Of course it could also mean that people will just wait for a ps3 price drop, but I don't think those are the best economics, as I don't think a price drop of £90(ps2's value) is in the near future...

Just a thought...

People still buy Ps2 systems because it's a great system with a ton of cheap games to play. There are plenty of Ps2 games still in the pipeline for this year (including God of War 2 which is only a few weeks away).

Ps3 prices have nothing to do with Ps2 sales. As for the rest of your statements - can you really say with a straight face that you believe that the Ps3 will fail to sell forever? Do you really think that people won't scoop them up in droves when there's a price drop or a AA title worth owning on the system? Right now there's not really much incentive to own a Ps3. To think this fact will remain unchanged is just ludicrous. :)

[For the record: I don't own a Ps3 nor do I plan to anytime soon.] ;)

[eenu]

The receiver isn't so new, unfortunately. It is a design error on their part, but I don't think it can be fixed without them taking the unit in and resoldering various circuits.

Yeah i know and if this is the case they should do that for you or swap it for a newer model.

If you just explain to them that you bought an expensive receiver and now an expensive console from them and you expect them to work together but due to an error on their part it doesn't work well for movies. Tell them your not happy about it and your only solution is to fork out for a new one.....yada yada you get the idea.

Its worth a try

[gloss]

Yeah i know and if this is the case they should do that for you or swap it for a newer model.

If you just explain to them that you bought an expensive receiver and now an expensive console from them and you expect them to work together but due to an error on their part it doesn't work well for movies. Tell them your not happy about it and your only solution is to fork out for a new one.....yada yada you get the idea.

Its worth a try


Quite. I'm going to get my friend to call in for me. He's very much better at being a difficult S.O.B. on the phone. We'll see what happens. =)

[eenu]

Quite. I'm going to get my friend to call in for me. He's very much better at being a difficult S.O.B. on the phone. We'll see what happens. =)

Yeah let us know. I for one would be interested to know the result.

[crouchy]

People still buy Ps2 systems because it's a great system with a ton of cheap games to play. There are plenty of Ps2 games still in the pipeline for this year (including God of War 2 which is only a few weeks away).

Ps3 prices have nothing to do with Ps2 sales. As for the rest of your statements - can you really say with a straight face that you believe that the Ps3 will fail to sell forever? Do you really think that people won't scoop them up in droves when there's a price drop or a AA title worth owning on the system? Right now there's not really much incentive to own a Ps3. To think this fact will remain unchanged is just ludicrous.
Spot on. And the fact the PS2 is selling so well is great for Sony. When theres a price drop and the big games arrive then you'l see PS2 owners en masse being enticed to buy a PS3.

[jaw04005]

So I just purchased a PS3 from Amazon on Monday. It arrived today (on-time). However, the PS3 has clearly been previously opened and used. Both the controller and power cord's plastic bags are ripped open, and the unit has scratches along the USB ports.

Well, I called Sony Support and the unit was registered back in November. Therefore, only has roughly 9 months left of its warranty.

Amazon Customer Service intially offered me 10 percent off if I would keep the unit, but I refused. Now, they want me to pay to ship the unit back to them via USPS Insured Mail.

Personally, I don't feel like its my responsibility to pay to ship the unit back, and I'm demanding a pre-paid label.

Not to mention, they don't have anymore in stock for a replacement!

I have faith Amazon will come through eventually. They always have in the past, and typically their refund/replacement policy is trouble-free.

[e²Studios]

So I just purchased a PS3 from Amazon on Monday. It arrived today (on-time). However, the PS3 has clearly been previously opened and used. Both the controller and power cord's plastic bags are ripped open, and the unit has scratches along the USB ports.

Well, I called Sony Support and the unit was registered back in November. Therefore, only has roughly 9 months left of its warranty.

Amazon Customer Service intially offered me 10 percent off if I would keep the unit, but I refused. Now, they want me to pay to ship the unit back to them via USPS Insured Mail.

Personally, I don't feel like its my responsibility to pay to ship the unit back, and I'm demanding a pre-paid label.

Not to mention, they don't have anymore in stock for a replacement!

I have faith Amazon will come through eventually. They always have in the past, and typically their refund/replacement policy is trouble-free.

I have never had to pay for a return to Amazon, thats one of the benefits of using them. Their customer service and return policy has always been stellar.

I would call back and ask to talk to a manager, either the person you spoke to is new, or they were just feeding you a load of BS.

Ed

[jaw04005]

I have never had to pay for a return to Amazon, thats one of the benefits of using them. Their customer service and return policy has always been stellar.

I would call back and ask to talk to a manager, either the person you spoke to is new, or they were just feeding you a load of BS.

Ed

This is the first time I've not been giving the option on the return's page to generate a pre-paid label. According to the CR Rep., it's because the PS3 requires USPS insured mail instead of regular mail. Therefore, they can't generate a pre-paid label with insurance.

I suggested a pre-paid UPS label like other big-ticket items. I haven't heard back yet.