Apple Trailers: Clone War [Archive]

mymemory

Mar 10, 2002, 11:11 PM

Do you know that that is what is going on in my country right now? He have this idiot that became our president, in place of resolving the problems we have, he is arming the people at the getos to create a "revolution". Of course every body here is afraid because "revolution" will mean that any of this day the people from the getos are gonna go up town to breake in to our houses. The problem is that 80% of the congres is part of that political party, the same with the palace of justice and some other forces.

Too bad we do not have jedis around here. That senator is comunist, beleve it or not, what is gonna hapen in Episode II is the same strategy that comunist leaders used to stablis a dictatorship, they hide behind a democratic gouverment and then the stablish their people in the mayors and strategic positions (congres, army, justice). And then they create a idiology against church, education, workers, and start to create divisions in society, poor agains rich, racism, etc.

We are getting arm around here.

dricci

Mar 10, 2002, 11:25 PM

You're right! *winks and slowly backs away*:p

Digidesign

Mar 11, 2002, 12:41 AM

Lucas? Star Wars? ***k that kiddy ***t! I'm waiting for Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers! :D

I used to be a SW fan. The original trilogy was beginning to age like fine wine, and here comes Lucas giving us grape juice, and it just doesn't taste the same like before.

<begin fanboy rant>
Few problems I have with the new trilogy - hey, you love it, you freakin dream of amidala and play with her dolls great, but here's my take on the new trilogy:

- Episode I: Jake Lloyd's wooden performance had me gritting my teeth, and don't tell me he's just a kid because haley joel osment makes jake lloyd look like corky st. clair.

- Episode I: Midi Chloriates, or whatever salad ***t is in their veins. C'mon! the force is a mystical energy force that binds us, etc. "yes, between the rock, the lake, the ship"... no midichloriates there, eh? You fanboys are gonna tell me it's different, I don't care. No midichloriates Lucas.

- Episode I: The Virgin birth of Anakin. can of worms opened here that didn't add anything to the story.

- Episode I: Somewhat formulaic plotline, mirroring events in episode 4. C'mon, the kid blows up the station without knowing what he's doing? that's not the force, that's called "exposing the plot by letting it control the actions".

- Episode I: Yeah, you know what I and so many people were annoyed by. Yeah, I don't even need to type the three words of the name that brings pain to SW fans. He/It represents merchandising, merchandising, merchandising.... and a clear signal that lucas never grew up the story with it's fans, but kept it anchored in the childlike. hey, that's cool and all if that's what he wants, but many of us were dissapointed.

- Episode II: From the looks of the trailer, it looks to be focused on the romantic aspect of Anakin/Amidala and their 'forbidden love' or whatnot. I'm sorry, but I don't trust Lucas to do romantic touchy/feely stuff as much as I trust Kevin Smith to produce a tear-jerking drama. that's all I'll say about EP2, cuz I'll go see it and hope for the best (give it a chance). But when you know a director's/creator's strength and that it does not lie in a particular aspect of storytelling/filmaking, it just gets you worried.

alex_ant

Mar 11, 2002, 12:42 AM

I like how you managed to just barely tie that into the topic of Star Wars, mymemory. :)

I feel for you, though. May the force be with you and your country.

Alex

alex_ant

Mar 11, 2002, 12:45 AM

The thing about this new Star Wars movie is, it could be 90 minutes of George Lucas making grunting noises on the can and it would still take in $80 million its first week.

Star Wars Episode II: George Needs a New Yacht.

And to make this post on-topic: Macs rule!

Alex

AmbitiousLemon

Mar 11, 2002, 02:26 AM

i just saw a very good trailer for it on the tv after a news broadcast. i have to say it looks good. the first one as Digi here pointed out was starstarstarstar to say the least. i certainly had low expectation for the next one after seeing the first. but the previews look very good. o and Digi did you actually think the garbage they gave us called lord of the rings was worth the $5 you paid to see it in the theater? the stupid movie didnt even end. of course this was good since it let me feel like i walked out on it which is what i should have done. ok i havent read the books so maybe im missing a lot but a movie should at leats end. a trilogy isnt one long movie in serial format, its three movies each self contained but telling a larger story together. if they ha dto tell it in 9 hours then release it all at once and be up front about it. dont string us along because frankly ive already lost patience with the stupid movie. maybe had it ended and tied up all the loose ends it wold have been an ok flick but its not worth paying 3 times over 3 years to see one movie.

arn

Mar 11, 2002, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
the stupid movie didnt even end. of course this was good since it let me feel like i walked out on it which is what i should have done. ok i havent read the books so maybe im missing a lot but a movie should at leats end. a trilogy isnt one long movie in serial format, its three movies each self contained but telling a larger story together.

I guess you realize it's a triology... it's not going to end until the end...

The Empire Strikes Back didn't end either... :)

arn

foofan

Mar 11, 2002, 04:32 AM

WHO ARE ALL THE JEDI'S?
http://home.attbi.com/~eddylucas1/jedis.jpg

Hes Nikke

Mar 11, 2002, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by foofan
WHO ARE ALL THE JEDI'S?
http://home.attbi.com/~eddylucas1/jedis.jpg

you're probably looking at the backslash boys (or what ever they are called)

Originally posted by mymemory
Do you know that that is what is going on in my country right now? He have this idiot that became our president, .....

funny, we have the same suff happening in this country :(

krossfyter

Mar 11, 2002, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by foofan
WHO ARE ALL THE JEDI'S?
http://home.attbi.com/~eddylucas1/jedis.jpg

is that a pic from episode 2....or did you just get that from some site....thay may or may not have anything to do with episode 2?

abe

Mar 11, 2002, 06:11 AM

Yes, it's from the trailer and it rocks ...

blakespot

Mar 11, 2002, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
i just saw a very good trailer for it on the tv after a news broadcast. i have to say it looks good. the first one as Digi here pointed out was starstarstarstar to say the least. i certainly had low expectation for the next one after seeing the first. but the previews look very good. o and Digi did you actually think the garbage they gave us called lord of the rings was worth the $5 you paid to see it in the theater? the stupid movie didnt even end. of course this was good since it let me feel like i walked out on it which is what i should have done. ok i havent read the books so maybe im missing a lot but a movie should at leats end. a trilogy isnt one long movie in serial format, its three movies each self contained but telling a larger story together. if they ha dto tell it in 9 hours then release it all at once and be up front about it. dont string us along because frankly ive already lost patience with the stupid movie. maybe had it ended and tied up all the loose ends it wold have been an ok flick but its not worth paying 3 times over 3 years to see one movie.

What are you talking about?? If you had read LOTR, you would see that the movie's version of Return of the King has more of an "ending" than the book. In the book, the orc battle that takes place at the end of the movie is not even finished. It concludes within the first 10 pages of The Two Towers. Peter Jackson wisely decided to bring those 10 pages into this film to add more closure.

Trilogy \Tril"o*gy\, n. (Gr. trilogi`a; pref. tri- (see Tri-)
+ lo`gos speech, discourse: cf. F. trilogie.)
A series of three dramas which, although each of them is in
one sense complete, have a close mutual relation, and form
one historical and poetical picture.

I feel LOTR:FOTR meets with the dictionary definition of trilogy--there was a degree of closure. You couldn't expect the director/screenwriter to decide to create an artificial "true conclusion" at the end of each book's movie in this trilogy (that may be the most popular "book" of the 20th century) for those that have somehow never read these books, are unfamiliar with them, or simply have a short span of attention.

blakespot

StuPid QPid

Mar 11, 2002, 06:57 AM

Is it just me? or does this film look too much like a high-tech cartoon. Computer generated effects are great in their place, but here the whole film looks like it is dominated by them. In my opinion they just don't look realistic enough. I know it's a difficult balancing act to know how many effects to include, but in LOTR, I though the computer effects were much better blended in to the film. Strange, but I thought the models used in the original Star Wars trilogy in most cases were more realistic. Perhaps it has something to do with them being genuine 3D objects or something?

Let's hope the acting is not as cartoon-like as in Epidsode 1...

Ifeelbloated

Mar 11, 2002, 07:34 AM

Hey guys, I'm a CG artist and was wondering if any of you might be interested in a CG Batman Beyond short. I plan on making one for demo reel purposes and just to push my skills to the limit. Would anybody care to see anything like it? I can just hear the attorneys for Warner Bros. knocking on my door telling me to cut it out or else.

gotohamish

Mar 11, 2002, 08:24 AM

a big a star wars fan as i am, I can't help but think it now looks like a cross between starship troopers, men in black and lord of the rings... way too much cgi - it'll ruin the orginal three for the new generation.

Thoughts?

AlphaTech

Mar 11, 2002, 09:39 AM

I saw the episode 1 trailers and made the mistake of actually buying the tape before seeing it. Hell, I even went and picked up the dvd without watching the tape *kicking myself*. I watched episode 1 during a power failure a few months back (used my TiBook :D) and thought... damn, that was weak. After thinking about it for a few minutes, that evolved into... that sucked... The first set of Star Wars was well done, had a plot that moved well, and all around rocked. This new set is horrid. I won't go and see it in the theaters, I won't buy the tape or dvd, I MIGHT rent it one night if it is cheap enough. Otherwise, I will wait until it hits cable and there is nothing else on, and I have nothing else to do.

I USED to be a sw fan, but now, lucas can wipe himself with episodes one through three for all I care.

abe

Mar 11, 2002, 10:05 AM

Episode I was crap.
- Stupid story, bad bad Annakin (about 10x "hups"), boring actors (how they had to play), horrible explosions, overall not very impressive special effects ...

Episode II looks ways better
- I just hope acting will be much better than Episode I...

Episode IV-VI
- cult. great fun, well played, special effects that rocked.

...

mymemory

Mar 11, 2002, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by alex_ant
I like how you managed to just barely tie that into the topic of Star Wars, mymemory. :)

I feel for you, though. May the force be with you and your country.

Alex

Man, imposible to think about something else when you live in a situation like this. If this is Venezuela right now I can not imagine what is going on in the rest of the world. I saw the last Arnold Swchaerger (what ever) movie with the terrorist and I felt so bad because it was so realistic to what is going on right here (Colombia is just 2 hours by plane from here), the same with 13 days now that my president is learning everything from Fidel Castro, When that movie came out was Fidel Castro's birthday and the party was here in Venezuela and my president spent about $300.000 in the celebration, they used a hole state (the size or Arkansas) to celebrate it.

Returning to the topic. I was disapointed with Episode I, way too childish (sorry about the spelling). I took it from the point of view that may be it was done to cacht the new generations.

About Episode 2, looks fine. Obviusly these 2 movies are based more in speciall effects and photography rather than a deep script and story. Everything is way too comertial, too "POP" would be the word.

For example, the Return of the Jedi is a movie that no mater how many times you see it, you would be atracted to watch it again if is on tv. No the same with Episode I. It's is not offering anything new to our imagination, just good graphics and a story supporting them. I hate the acting of the kid and the race was so stupid, I felt embaraced to take my girldfriend to watch that thing.

Looks like Episode II will be a bit more "mature" than Episode II, but no in the same lines that the others 3 movies. Episode II is gona explote the basic teenage cheese behaviour that you see on tv over and over evry day. I bet.

Steve M

Mar 11, 2002, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Digidesign
Lucas? Star Wars? ***k that kiddy ***t! I'm waiting for Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers! :D

- Episode II: From the looks of the trailer, it looks to be focused on the romantic aspect of Anakin/Amidala and their 'forbidden love' or whatnot. I'm sorry, but I don't trust Lucas to do romantic touchy/feely stuff as much as I trust Kevin Smith to produce a tear-jerking drama. that's all I'll say about EP2, cuz I'll go see it and hope for the best (give it a chance). But when you know a director's/creator's strength and that it does not lie in a particular aspect of storytelling/filmaking, it just gets you worried.

Well, you clearly haven't seen the new trailer then.

Megaquad

Mar 11, 2002, 10:31 AM

***** Star Wars.. ;)
I cant wait Star Trek:Nemesis to come out..
Star Trek rules!!
Ensign Paris,am I right? ;)

mcrain

Mar 11, 2002, 11:01 AM

The last trailer made a big point of the romantic relationship between the schmuck and the little girl from the Professional. I'm sure Lucas heard the clamoring and upset fans and has now issued this now "action packed" trailer to try to get his fan base back. He's got to know that kids aren't going to be able to spend money on Spidey, MIBII, Blade II, and Star Wars II.

By the way, Jar Jar will be in Episode II. He's the newly elected senator for Amidala's planet or something like that. A small part, but unless they have him die in the movie, the crowd in the theater is sure to boo when they see him.

Jar Jar should be Annikan's father. Then Annikan can kill him in the second movie causing teh crowd to cheer and also explaining Obi Wan's comment from the first movie...??

I sure hope the second movie is better than the first cause darnit, bashing Star Wars is something I never imagined I would do.

voicegy

Mar 11, 2002, 11:43 AM

...as the double-unicorn pointy head thing in the comfortable office said to the others.

"This is a crisis."

Well, couldn't have put it better myself.

I've honestly thought long and hard about why the latest crop of crap from Lucas doesn't "do" it for me anymore. Is it because it's not "new" to my senses? Is it because I was much younger when the original Star Wars came out? Is it because amazing special effects are just taken for granted these days and we're jaded no matter what we see?

Perhaps. But the real reason?

I just don't give a rats behind about the characters anymore, and I don't care HOW many flying gizmos and futuristic office furniture sets you throw into a flick, if the characters are less than 3 dimensional, then you have an empty story.

The series has become souless. Every character in the original(s) you CARED about. Lucas has been able to pull off the impossible...not only do his characters LOSE my empathy, I actually DETEST some of them (along with the great majority of you, especially ONE of them, whose name I can't even utter here)

What happened, George? Your imagination is still wonderful to behold, but you forgot the HUMAN part.:(

serpicolugnut

Mar 11, 2002, 01:01 PM

What happened, George? Your imagination is still wonderful to behold, but you forgot the HUMAN part.

I agree. The main problem with EP1 was that the story was WAY too adventurous for a 2 hour movie. In an attempt to get every last plot detail included (and many EP4-6 details answered), Lucas didn't have any time to develop the characters in the first movie. He probably figured that everybody would automatically identify with them because of their links in EP4-6. Wrong.

Depending upon which trailer you watch, EP2 looks like two movies in one - an action movie, and a romance. Lucas will have a difficult time telling a love story convincingly, mostly because I don't think he's ever written one, or directed one. It will be interesting to see.

Me? I thought Ep1 was "ambitous", but flawed. It is obviously the weakest of the SW movies so far. But it is just one of six. So hopefully, Lucas paid attention to the EP1 criticism when writing/directing EP2.

Personally, I'm looking forward to it. The action scenes look amazing.

blakespot

Mar 11, 2002, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by StuPid QPid
Is it just me? or does this film look too much like a high-tech cartoon. Computer generated effects are great in their place, but here the whole film looks like it is dominated by them. In my opinion they just don't look realistic enough. I know it's a difficult balancing act to know how many effects to include, but in LOTR, I though the computer effects were much better blended in to the film. Strange, but I thought the models used in the original Star Wars trilogy in most cases were more realistic. Perhaps it has something to do with them being genuine 3D objects or something?

Let's hope the acting is not as cartoon-like as in Epidsode 1...

I personally think Lucas has gone mad. He's stated in recent inteviews that if he had his way, he would completely eliminate the actors. He is all about the effects and digital scenery being totally forefront in the film. LOTR is indeed an excellent example of the effects and scenery providing a _backdrop_, which is the way it is done in a good film. I am quite anti-Lucas these days, sadly. Episode I was horrible--and I'm an avid Star Wars fan.

blakespot

AlphaTech

Mar 11, 2002, 02:30 PM

Maybe Lucas has been replaced by an evil clone... that would explain the latest version of Star Wars....

May the schwartz be with you... :D

mcrain

Mar 11, 2002, 03:03 PM

Maybe Lucas has been replaced by an evil clone...

Or, maybe the little chicki from the Professional has been keeping the casting couch a little too warm thus clouding his mind.

Hey alpha, just the other day you hit 500 posts, you've got 650ish now! Wowsers! I wonder if your posting rate will decrease when the weather warms up and you get your bike? I've got to get a flat fixed, and then I'm hitting the road.

Digidesign

Mar 11, 2002, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Maybe Lucas has been replaced by an evil clone... that would explain the latest version of Star Wars....

LOL :D I've heard rumors that at skywalker ranch Lucas has some strict rules, like in the cafeteria area if Lucas comes in, under no circumstances are you to make eye contact or speak to Lucas unless he talks to you first. He probably would cringe and go "argh, I can't abide these fanboys.... disgusting creatures!" and saunter off with his troop.

Then again, who the hell knows what goes on at skywalker ranch? I mean, it's like the freakin' playboy mansion,....without the women! <shudder> (no wonder he's senile!) :p

nero007

Mar 11, 2002, 04:50 PM

This is more a less a quote from Lucas' mouth to describe the first three Star Wars stories... (heard this from an interview right before EPS 1 was released to the theatres)

Episode 1 is action. Episode 2 is a love story. And Episode 3 just sucks.

Hard to keep ones hopes up with those descriptions.

"YIPEEEEEEEEEE!", Anakin Skywalker

-=AsukA=-

Mar 11, 2002, 06:04 PM

This will be a HUGE hit! even better than the first episode! have you seen the trailer? i think were gonna see a new WORLD record for movie opining records ($$making that is) the special efffects are sweet, and the action sceens look intense! I cant wait for that movie and blade2 and the rest of LOTR and the matrix reloaded! soo many good movies comming out this summer!

as for those of you that dont think much of it, who cares what you think! half the worlds population wants to see it!:D

gandalf55

Mar 11, 2002, 06:32 PM

lucas is too involved in trying to win SFX awards i think. Pixar and other sfx companies are pumping out great stuff, and so does ILM, but lucas wants sfx to take center stage when it doesnt need to.

peter jackson (fotr) did a fantastic job. the sfx in most cases blends right in and you dont need to think about it. episode 1 all i did was look at everything and said, "tooo much cgi..."

i imagine episode2 won't be much different... "how many hours did this scene take to render?!? DAMN! There must be 20,000 things moving around. Of course they were scripted, and duped, but... wow... " ad naseum.

Bring on The Two Towers!!!

krossfyter

Mar 11, 2002, 07:17 PM

tolkein got his stuff from mcduglous and the bible and lucas got his stuff from shakspere and the bible. not many people know that.

maclamb

Mar 11, 2002, 07:18 PM

OK- here we go...I haven't been flamed for a few weeks - so this might do it.
I may be the only person on earth, but I find Lucas/Spielberg/King(Stephen) to be simialr drivel - obvious, mind numbing, lowest commondenominator trash. OK, good special effects - but so what? I like Amelie where the special effects served to add to the film.

Luke is Darth's son and then redeems him (yawn), Yoda copying Don Jaun WORD FOR WORD (look in Journey to Ixtlan and Separate reality)
I find 2001 more SF than SW -
I'm waiting for two towers - that should be good.

What *wo8uld* I like to see in film for SF?

1. Heinlen: Moon is a harsh mistress or Glory Road
2. Illumanati trilogy

For those who arein love with SW _ I suggest reading some decent Sci Fi and then get back to me ;-)

ok - flame on!

Xapplimatic

Mar 11, 2002, 07:22 PM

w/o turning this into a Lord of the Rings post.. my 2 cents: I'm a book fan.. and the movie was great! If you never read the books, well, it's a book thing, you simply can't understand.

On topic: Star Wars II looks better than Star Wars I.. especially glad that the Jar Jar Binks thing is totally played down and hopefully completely gone by the third movie.. Jar Jar is one of the few things I hate more than being forced to work a year in a dungeon with Windows machines!

krossfyter

Mar 11, 2002, 08:30 PM

of course the book is better then the movie... so i hear.... thats usaully always the case.

i just cant get myself to read a huge novel on fantasy.. fantasy is not my cup o tea. i prefer reading truth since it is stranger than fiction.

krossfyter

Mar 11, 2002, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Digidesign
Lucas? Star Wars? ***k that kiddy ***t! I'm waiting for Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers! :D

I used to be a SW fan. The original trilogy was beginning to age like fine wine, and here comes Lucas giving us grape juice, and it just doesn't taste the same like before.

<begin fanboy rant>
Few problems I have with the new trilogy - hey, you love it, you freakin dream of amidala and play with her dolls great, but here's my take on the new trilogy:

- Episode I: Jake Lloyd's wooden performance had me gritting my teeth, and don't tell me he's just a kid because haley joel osment makes jake lloyd look like corky st. clair.

- Episode I: Midi Chloriates, or whatever salad ***t is in their veins. C'mon! the force is a mystical energy force that binds us, etc. "yes, between the rock, the lake, the ship"... no midichloriates there, eh? You fanboys are gonna tell me it's different, I don't care. No midichloriates Lucas.

- Episode I: The Virgin birth of Anakin. can of worms opened here that didn't add anything to the story.

- Episode I: Somewhat formulaic plotline, mirroring events in episode 4. C'mon, the kid blows up the station without knowing what he's doing? that's not the force, that's called "exposing the plot by letting it control the actions".

- Episode I: Yeah, you know what I and so many people were annoyed by. Yeah, I don't even need to type the three words of the name that brings pain to SW fans. He/It represents merchandising, merchandising, merchandising.... and a clear signal that lucas never grew up the story with it's fans, but kept it anchored in the childlike. hey, that's cool and all if that's what he wants, but many of us were dissapointed.

- Episode II: From the looks of the trailer, it looks to be focused on the romantic aspect of Anakin/Amidala and their 'forbidden love' or whatnot. I'm sorry, but I don't trust Lucas to do romantic touchy/feely stuff as much as I trust Kevin Smith to produce a tear-jerking drama. that's all I'll say about EP2, cuz I'll go see it and hope for the best (give it a chance). But when you know a director's/creator's strength and that it does not lie in a particular aspect of storytelling/filmaking, it just gets you worried.

dude you have quite an opinion. an eduacted one that is. i like your style. thanks for that post even if it was dissing all over the new star wars.

dig it!

snooze button

Mar 12, 2002, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by maclamb

What *wo8uld* I like to see in film for SF?

1. Heinlen: Moon is a harsh mistress or Glory Road
2. Illumanati trilogy

For those who arein love with SW _ I suggest reading some decent Sci Fi and then get back to me ;-)

ok - flame on!

no flame here, just pure appreciation for the Illuminati trilogy..

anyone who hasn't checked out the mysteries of the illuminati should really try to expand their mind a bit on the subject.. especially what robert anton wilson has to say..
here's his personal site:

http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml

and another site trying to summarize..
http://www.physics.umn.edu/~duvernoi/ill.html

of course, wilson also wrote the satanic bible, was a student of Alistair Crowley, and achieved a bunch more.. check out his site if you're interested..

but yeah, LOTR had the perfect mix of special effects and human character..

i haven't even watched the whole episode 1 of SW yet.. t'was pretty bad, what i saw..

krossfyter

Mar 12, 2002, 01:15 AM

the satanic bible....aye....

hmmm.

Mike Gagne

Mar 12, 2002, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by Hes Nikke

funny, we have the same suff happening in this country :(

seems to be going around..........the world that is, sort of like a virus.... meglomania strikes back

krossfyter

Mar 12, 2002, 05:54 AM

Oh, what, and the original trilogy might have been penned by frekin Shakespeare himself, right? This is Star Wars, dangit, not the next David Mamet.What point of reference in real life do you have for what people caught up in an intergalactic war on planets light years away would talk like? Seriously? The effects arent good enough? "Oh wait that doesnt look like the real 10000 strong clone army fighting guys with laser swords i saw the other day." This is well crafted art, anti-Lucas propaganda and pseudo-intellectual posturing aside.

cyberchill

Mar 12, 2002, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by krossfyter
i just cant get myself to read a huge novel on fantasy.. fantasy is not my cup o tea. i prefer reading truth since it is stranger than fiction.

Don't start on the books unless you've got time to kill (I recommend starting with The Hobbit)... By the time you finish Return of the King you'll be looking for courses on how to speak Elvish and dusting off your old D&D books (or buying them, if you've never played). :D

Aside from that, you'll certainly have an appreciation for what Peter Jackson has accomplished in preserving the flavor of the books and the essential storyline (even if he did take a few liberties in the translation -- after all, he couldn't go much past three hours per film).

voicegy

Mar 12, 2002, 12:45 PM

Like Pulp Fiction?

(used to like) Star Wars? or rather, enjoy dishing recent Star Wars flicks?

Enjoy.

http://www.pulpphantom.com/

whatever

Mar 12, 2002, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by dricci
You're right! *winks and slowly backs away*:p

What the hell are you talking about. The only reason they made the the Lord of the Rings movies back to back is because the director knew that if anyone ever saw that piece of crap (Fellowship of the Ring) he would never be allowed waste the studio's money on the other two movies. Let's be honest here for a second, we all loved The Hobbit, but how many people actually made it all the way through the Lord of the Ring trilogy.

Well anyway back to the movie Fellow**** of the Ring. It was boring and lackluster. Sure it was cool to look at, but... Harry Potter was 1000 times better.

The Phantom Menace was a great movie, sure we know the outcome of the series, but it's not the destination that we care about here, it's the voyage.

Hey wait a minute isn't this the Macrumors Forum? What is this a slow period or what?

buffsldr

Mar 12, 2002, 01:41 PM

To see the new star wars episodes on par with Spaceballs is truly sad. This looks more like the story of a rebellious teenager with a fast car and a good two shoes girl friend then star wars. Forget this... I am off to rent Corvette Summer

krossfyter

Mar 12, 2002, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by cyberchill

Don't start on the books unless you've got time to kill (I recommend starting with The Hobbit)... By the time you finish Return of the King you'll be looking for courses on how to speak Elvish and dusting off your old D&D books (or buying them, if you've never played). :D

Aside from that, you'll certainly have an appreciation for what Peter Jackson has accomplished in preserving the flavor of the books and the essential storyline (even if he did take a few liberties in the translation -- after all, he couldn't go much past three hours per film).

yeah i actually read the hobbit a long time ago. it was okay. i tried reading LOTR but I gave up during the first part...expeditionary part. Right now for me to read anything fantasy is like getting the palestinians to chill the hell out over there in the middle east. Just wont happen. Im more interested in c.s. lewises non fiction books.

whatever

Mar 12, 2002, 03:44 PM

All right, one of the best parts of Episode I was Jar Jar Binks. Come on now he's a classic Joseph Campbell type character. How often do we get to meet a character that every character the meets him, except Anankin, hates. Watch him closely, he's great comic releaf.

I can't believe that some that managed to sit through Fellowship of the Ring was unable to sit through Episode I. What are you going to say next, the original Dune movie was better than Star Wars or that the acting in the original Star Trek is better than the acting in any of the spinoffs? Come on now get a grip. The only thing worst than reading the Fellowship of the Ring was seeing the movie (although I will admit to enjoying both Gandalf and Bilbo).

I must concede that Fellow**** of the Rings was not the worst novel to movie adaptation that I've seen (that would be Queen of the Damned, they were so close to pulling it off), because both the book and movie bored me to death.

I just asked the guy next to me if he saw the FotR and he said "yes, fell asleep 13 times".

krossfyter

Mar 12, 2002, 03:47 PM

oh and another thing....

harry potter sucks arse man. i cant believe someone in thier mature mind is going to sit up in here and say that harry potter is actually any good. the true authors of fantasy are spinning in thier graves from that piece of crap.

Ifeelbloated

Mar 12, 2002, 04:09 PM

Can anybody recommend any truly kick-ass CG or CG aided movies? Come on, LOTR was good. I'm sure the others will be just as good, as far as escapist fare goes. As for Star Wars, I don't know about you but I'm kind of Star Warsed out. Know what I mean?

mischief

Mar 12, 2002, 04:15 PM

Dragonheart.

Final Fantasy.

whatever

Mar 12, 2002, 04:35 PM

What was wrong with Harry Potter. As an adult, I've read each one of the books and really enjoyed them and to my surprise the movie was quite good. Was is Citizen Kane? No. But was it entertaining and fun, yes. The only good part of the Fellow**** of the Rings were the trailers. Did I mention that the only noise from the audience was the applause for the Episode I trailer and the sigh or relief from the audience FotR was it was over.

I would rate Beast Master 2 as a better movie than FotR.

I can't wait to Anakin kill Mace Windo (I think this is who he attacks in the end of the previous trailer).

krossfyter

Mar 12, 2002, 04:51 PM

final fantasy was the worst in terms of plot...but one of the best in terms of cgi. all it was was a showcase of what they can do now. i fell asleep in that one. "oh cool..they dont need real actors anymore...looks almost real, sweet...man but other than that im bored...im going to sleep now *yawn*
*strecth* *yawn* *strectch* etc. etc.

krossfyter

Mar 12, 2002, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by whatever
What was wrong with Harry Potter. As an adult, I've read each one of the books and really enjoyed them and to my surprise the movie was quite good. Was is Citizen Kane? No. But was it entertaining and fun, yes. The only good part of the Fellow**** of the Rings were the trailers. Did I mention that the only noise from the audience was the applause for the Episode I trailer and the sigh or relief from the audience FotR was it was over.

I would rate Beast Master 2 as a better movie than FotR.

I can't wait to Anakin kill Mace Windo (I think this is who he attacks in the end of the previous trailer).

different strokes for different folks..i guess.

i prefer movies made from books made from authors that have some serious intellectual merit... ie. c.s. lewis, jrr tolkein, t.s. elliot... etc. etc.

ilikeiBook

Mar 12, 2002, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by krossfyter

is that a pic from episode 2....or did you just get that from some site....thay may or may not have anything to do with episode 2?

It's almost at the very end of the Clone War trailer.

Rower_CPU

Mar 12, 2002, 11:41 PM

Lest we all forget, a certain CEO of a certain fruit-named company also chairs a CG company called Pixar that makes great animated movies.

Or are we just talking action here?

I agree about Final Fantasy, good CG, bad story.

Hey, for the sake of reminiscence, go check out the newly released version of Tron, the original CG movie!

maclamb

Mar 13, 2002, 12:46 AM

I have to recommend the Shrek DVD , incl the how to stuff.
One of the best films as well as CG - thought it loads better thasn Monsters inc...

krossfyter

Mar 13, 2002, 02:15 AM

i actually liked monsters inc more than shrek.... im wierd i guess...although shrek has a lot of adult oriented comedy to it and the cgi is outstanding.

i know everyone loves shrek and all....but im the odd one who likes monsters inc more.

i guess its because im not to found of that time period in shrek, its costumes and look.

Rower_CPU

Mar 13, 2002, 11:31 AM

I really enjoyed Monsters Inc. and I'm going to buy it on DVD as soon as it comes out. The humor and design of Monsters Inc, was way better than Shrek.

maclamb

Mar 13, 2002, 02:28 PM

I've only seen monsters 1x, and shrek maybe a dozen, as well as it's "how it was done' on the DVD and I still think that Shrek is better designed and done than Monsters.
I've done some CG so I know how hard, fire, water, hair and fabric can be.

I'm open to an expereinced CGer saying why Monsters qas better, but I thought the work done on the elements in Shrek, not to mention the countryside (every plant, flower, blade of gras moved, etc) was superior.

I won't get into a disucssion of content/script - that seems too subjective.

Rower_CPU

Mar 13, 2002, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by maclamb
I've only seen monsters 1x, and shrek maybe a dozen, as well as it's "how it was done' on the DVD and I still think that Shrek is better designed and done than Monsters.
I've done some CG so I know how hard, fire, water, hair and fabric can be.

I'm open to an expereinced CGer saying why Monsters qas better, but I thought the work done on the elements in Shrek, not to mention the countryside (every plant, flower, blade of gras moved, etc) was superior.

I won't get into a disucssion of content/script - that seems too subjective.

I'd say that Pixar's work on Sulley's hair and Boo's clothes was every bit as good as anything done in Shrek. As far as environment's go, Monsters is mostly inside, except for a couple of incredible snow scenes, so it doesn't really compare there. Maybe you should see the movie again...

maclamb

Mar 13, 2002, 05:51 PM

rower_cpu

I'll take a look at Monsters DVD _ perhaps it has a how it was made segment.
To be fair - I suggest you rent the shrek dvd and look at its how it was done segment.
Have you done much CG? on what platforms and tools? Mines been mostly mac based (infini-D, strata studio pro, electic image)

I still think the fire, water and living environment, as well as the near photo realistic quality of the princess (they actually had to make her look less real to fit in with the look of the movie) surpasses pixar - but I'll look again.

Rower_CPU

Mar 13, 2002, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by maclamb
rower_cpu

I'll take a look at Monsters DVD _ perhaps it has a how it was made segment.
To be fair - I suggest you rent the shrek dvd and look at its how it was done segment.
Have you done much CG? on what platforms and tools? Mines been mostly mac based (infini-D, strata studio pro, electic image)

I still think the fire, water and living environment, as well as the near photo realistic quality of the princess (they actually had to make her look less real to fit in with the look of the movie) surpasses pixar - but I'll look again.

I own Shrek on DVD and I've watched all the special features.

I'm not a CG designer, but I do work with Photoshop and understand the difficulties of photorealism. I think most people panned Monsters because it's aimed at children more than Shrek.