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malfunction
Aug 15, 2001, 12:02 PM
As the Paris show gets closer I have found Apple Employees to be getting a little loose lipped in regards to whats gonna happen.
1. Final Cut Pro for OSX (I'm very surprised that this subject has not been brought up very much in these forums)
2. The Flat Panel Imac is actually a Short Neck CRT (The price of flat panel material by the roll is still too expensive). The Screen will be over 15" though.
3. After January all the products should be G4 (but not now)
4. Airport....Faster Signal, Longer Distances.
5. Office for OSX will be ready.
6. The Government and the Military are not only making purchases of not only over 100,000 peices as we speak BUT they are also using a not yet named palmtop using OSX on some of the ships already. hmmmmm....interesting huh??

This is the first time that I have actually posted to this group and I'm so laid back that I will DEFINITELY will not be going back and forth with anyone regarding these subjects. These are just basic facts that I have found out and beleive it or not I MAY KNOW.
Peace.

malfunction
Aug 15, 2001, 12:25 PM
Wait......I forgot something.
7. They are still not ready for a CD Burner Internal for the powerbook G4. (They may be going up to 600MHZ for the Paris show though)

mischief
Aug 15, 2001, 01:26 PM
the millitary has been using Newton 4ever. R U sure about a newer one running X or just that they're using mac PDA's? Those shortneck CRT's must be from a new vendor.

evildead
Aug 15, 2001, 01:32 PM
What is a shortneck CRT?

mischief
Aug 15, 2001, 01:36 PM
It's a squished down Cathode-Ray-Tube monitor. Like one of those new TV's that's about half as thick as the old ones.

appleman06
Aug 15, 2001, 01:55 PM
That's some good indight malfunction. Hope your right. Although, you know, the iBooks have burners now, so I'd think they'd be more than ready to put a faster burner in the PowerBook. I also hope it's a flatscreen iMac, then the whole linup would be flat screen. And what about iPhoto or iPicture? Think one of those will come out?

[Edited by appleman06 on 08-15-2001 at 02:57 PM]

malfunction
Aug 15, 2001, 02:14 PM
Unfortunately in regards to the apple source I talked to, and thinks about this one now, what we have been overlooking is the fact that the iBook is a tray and the TiBook is one of those Slot loading types. That is where the problem lies. They have not finished developing a Slot Loading type CDRW or combo drive period.

......also for mischief; my source said that it was definitely OSX and not anything else that was being run on the Militaries Handhelds.
..The fact of OSX being UNIX based is the MAIN reason PERIOD for all of the Governments and Militaries new found interest in the Apple Products.
The Only worry that Apple has at the moment is the fact that they are not geared up for the support involved with these new accounts.
LET's wish Apple luck with this. The more $$ they make, the more the consumer ("YES", even WINDOZE folks) benefit because of their dedication to investing over 11% of their profit to development (followed by a little over 2% from DELL)

malfunction
Aug 15, 2001, 02:24 PM
let me correct myself for a moment. When I said; "They have not finished developing a Slot Loading type CDRW or combo drive period." Please understand that I was NOT refering to the style in the iMac or G4. I was only refering to the low-profile style that is found in the iBook and TiBook.

mischief
Aug 15, 2001, 02:49 PM
carefull what you let out: you're source might spook. Better to infer than say. We're looking at an LCD Imac here pretty quick anyway: Apple's not buying any more shortnecks from Mitsubishi. Unless you're aware of a new supplier I think we can call that counter intelligence. I was wondering about the slim-case burner.Bummer, I guess it's a desktop then.

malfunction
Aug 15, 2001, 03:24 PM
I'm not worried about anyone being spooked etc...I'm the kind of guy that shoots straight from the hip no matter what the circumstance. It really does appear though that it's a Short Neck no matter what the supply happens to be to them. I've heard people talking back and forth here in regards to the lack of that style monitor but the conversation that I had it appeared a matter of fact that it WILL NOT be an LCD but a wider short neck (hence the 15 1/4 " or something around that size).
by the way the information that I have given is neither gonna make or break the bank for Apple. I was given this information because of my involvement with Final Cut Pro. I am neither under disclosure or have any arrangements with Apple itself. I just happen to be a user for 20 years with a lot of involvement in the industry.
I'm gonna be out on my sailboat for the next 4 days (I'm actually not leaving until tomorrow to sail from Nova Scotia to New York City) so I'll try to remember some more of my conversation with my buddy (cause I know that i have forgotten some other fun facts)
peace out

john123
Aug 15, 2001, 04:01 PM
For a "new iMac"? Two months between iMac upgrades? That's not exactly Apple's style....

MattB
Aug 15, 2001, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by john123
For a "new iMac"? Two months between iMac upgrades? That's not exactly Apple's style....

Sounds like the latest round of iMac upgrades was merely a stop-gap measure until September. How long were Flower Power and Blue Dalmation out? Definetly good to hear that the screen size will be over 15" (13.8" viewable). I also hope the form-factor will be reworked a little and won't just be a shallower version of the current iMac because of the shorter CRT.

Too bad about the PowerBook though. I was really hoping that Apple would get that straightened out especially because the combo drive is available in the lower priced iBook (Yes, I understand the iBook has the drawer type and the TiBook has the slot-loading type). Doesn't the mail-in CD-RW rebate end in September?

john123
Aug 15, 2001, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by MattB
Originally posted by john123
For a "new iMac"? Two months between iMac upgrades? That's not exactly Apple's style....

Sounds like the latest round of iMac upgrades was merely a stop-gap measure until September. How long were Flower Power and Blue Dalmation out? Definetly good to hear that the screen size will be over 15" (13.8" viewable). I also hope the form-factor will be reworked a little and won't just be a shallower version of the current iMac because of the shorter CRT.

Too bad about the PowerBook though. I was really hoping that Apple would get that straightened out especially because the combo drive is available in the lower priced iBook (Yes, I understand the iBook has the drawer type and the TiBook has the slot-loading type). Doesn't the mail-in CD-RW rebate end in September?

Flower Power and Blue Dalmation lasted 6 months -- is that right? January to July?

You're right on the CD-RW rebate ending...which means Apple pretty much either has to put in a CD-RW internal (and our "anonymous source" is incorrect) or continue the rebate offer. Lots of companies extend the deadlines on offers set to expire; maybe that's what we'll see after all. Thoughts?

al256
Aug 15, 2001, 04:53 PM
I can see it now the army and camouflage iMacs. Now thats better then flower power wouldn't you say? I would love to see a handle held running OS X, I hope your source is right about that one. Also does anyone know if Apple will ever make quicktime vr for OS X?

mnkeybsness
Aug 15, 2001, 04:57 PM
shortnecks would be great!! they would give a lot more desk space. and for the upgrade, the only big difference was the processor, why not bump up the processor to sell just a few more before cancelling production of the product, if apple decides to keep the G3 in the "new" imacs, then it's all fine and dandy.

mischief
Aug 15, 2001, 05:24 PM
It'd be the first PDA NOT to break after a 2" fall. Cool. Here's a thought: the PDA's may not even have Batteries in them. When the Mystic rumors were at their thickest I heard an interesting one to the effect that the device would have no HD. The thing would run as a terminal to a network of Airport "cells", each comprised of a water-tight, pole-top Cube and building-mount Airport. Power would be backed up with a cellular kit and each Cube would run something like OSX server. The PDA itself would be a TFT with solid state memory, battery (some rumors said it would be remote-powered too), and CPU. Voice Rec and touch screen built in. About the size of a pad of graph paper and about 1/2" thick.

appleman06
Aug 15, 2001, 07:03 PM
Shortnecks would be pretty good, but I was so looking forward to an LCD iMac.....oh well. At least it will be thinner and bigger. I for one don't really care about a speed bump, we just got one, and 700mhz in a consumer computer is fine. Farewell dreams of LCD iMacs, I will miss you.

mnkeybsness
Aug 15, 2001, 08:21 PM
oh well, all the concepts for lcd imacs were ugly. and most people including schools don't have the money for lcds

spikey
Aug 16, 2001, 07:22 AM
Could a PDA use OSX? i mean its minimum RAM requirements are 128 megs, am i right?

mischief
Aug 16, 2001, 10:41 AM
Steve doesn't lie, he only omits. Steve jobs has said both that there will be no Apple PDA and that there will not be a successor to Newton. He also said that all Apple computers are to run on one OS. We can extrapolate a new class of product from this.A full- fledged sub-notebook with no keyboard. The visual effect would be the same without the PDA paradox.

MrMacMan
Aug 16, 2001, 09:49 PM
Their making it. It will hit the market's soon.

mnkeybsness
Aug 17, 2001, 12:09 AM
how do u know???

granted, if you are right, that would be cool

mischief
Aug 17, 2001, 01:07 PM
But a gutted version of X wouldn't technically BE X. It violates the one-OS spirit of ol' Steverino's world domination plot. It'd be like Windows CE - basically a Palm-OS ripoff with more familiar features. I'd find that too lame for Apple.

al256
Aug 17, 2001, 09:04 PM
Where do you think the palm came from? If we have OS X sever and OS X, why can't we have a watered down version of X?

MrMacMan
Aug 20, 2001, 08:35 PM
It would be a total scaled down mac os X.

biker4mac
Aug 21, 2001, 07:51 AM
The form factor of the current iMacs does not upset me too much, although a short neck would save on desk space.

Has anyone heard of a combo (CD-RW/DVD player) drive coming to the iMac? They have them as an option on the iBook, TiPB, and desktops...

That is what I am waiting for...

** My apologies... Just checked the Apple site again and the TiPB does not have a combo drive option. I swear I saw that as an option when I was looking the other week. My mistake.

[Edited by biker4mac on 08-21-2001 at 09:08 AM]

john123
Aug 21, 2001, 10:17 AM
Unfortunately, Mr. Jobs has decided that he will introduce NO NEW HARDWARE at Paris:

http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0108/21.keynote.shtml


this sucks....

MattB
Aug 21, 2001, 11:30 AM
Notice how Jobs made no mention of Seybold?!?!

WindexMonkey
Aug 25, 2001, 11:46 PM
No new hardware ehh.....

But Shortnecks would be sweet CRTs can reach higher resolutions i like mine (the 17" Apple discontinued ) idon't mind the tube but on cold winter nights i like the radiation to glow on and warm my face. HAHA Yum.

And I heard Apple had the free CD-RWs wit hthe TiBooks cuz they don't fit.

MasterX (OSiX)
Sep 4, 2001, 03:50 PM
A few things omitted so far:
1 Apple has stockpiled low price plat-pannel screens, once beleived to be XGAs (portable LCD) screens for the SOP, rumors are they're actually TFT LCDs, which leans away from a Pro-iBook toward a pro iMac.

2 Apple has an OSX device that's smaller than a laptop, the Apple Store Uses them with secret Wacom technology to get your credic card signature. Hmm lots of rumors there.

3 A PDA running OSX will probably run the OSX core, so everything except Aqua, maby OSXpda will run Java2 apps only?

4 I'd love to see an iMac with equal Mhz as thse damn supermarket tabloid 1.13Ghz P3s for $1299

mnkeybsness
Sep 4, 2001, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
A few things omitted so far:
1 Apple has stockpiled low price plat-pannel screens, once beleived to be XGAs (portable LCD) screens for the SOP, rumors are they're actually TFT LCDs, which leans away from a Pro-iBook toward a pro iMac.

2 Apple has an OSX device that's smaller than a laptop, the Apple Store Uses them with secret Wacom technology to get your credic card signature. Hmm lots of rumors there.

3 A PDA running OSX will probably run the OSX core, so everything except Aqua, maby OSXpda will run Java2 apps only?

4 I'd love to see an iMac with equal Mhz as thse damn supermarket tabloid 1.13Ghz P3s for $1299


most of this is completely unfounded rumors that you are bringing up and saying that they are true.....







.......you bother me with your stupidity

MasterX (OSiX)
Sep 4, 2001, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
A few things omitted so far:
1 Apple has stockpiled low price plat-pannel screens, once beleived to be XGAs (portable LCD) screens for the SOP, rumors are they're actually TFT LCDs, which leans away from a Pro-iBook toward a pro iMac.

2 Apple has an OSX device that's smaller than a laptop, the Apple Store Uses them with secret Wacom technology to get your credic card signature. Hmm lots of rumors there.

3 A PDA running OSX will probably run the OSX core, so everything except Aqua, maby OSXpda will run Java2 apps only?

4 I'd love to see an iMac with equal Mhz as thse damn supermarket tabloid 1.13Ghz P3s for $1299

Well 1 is probably true, for the building up stock part anyway, 2 has been confirmed as a signature scanner, i'm guessing it has wacom or wacom-style technology in ti, 3 is a full-blown estimate, but it's likely Aqua won't be completly implemented, 4 is a hope.

If we al told truths, these forums would be just arguments, your freind Jon123 enjoys speculation, so do I. a site like Macrumors.com just provides facts compiled into estimates. Uless they're magic.... which i doubt.

mnkeybsness
Sep 4, 2001, 10:33 PM
just shut the **** up, you can't say something is proven without giving your source, unless it is common knowledge

MasterX (OSiX)
Sep 4, 2001, 10:36 PM
http://www.mosr.com I'm like a freakin MOSR.com re-iterator capiche?

mnkeybsness
Sep 4, 2001, 10:41 PM
the link wouldn't work

MasterX (OSiX)
Sep 4, 2001, 10:46 PM
Yeah, I've been trying to get to my prescious rumors all day long. Damn OSX 10.0 Web Server! They had a simmilar problem before, when you had to type in their server Ip to get to the site. Maybe they're overhauling the site or something, but I'ts probably a UNIX thing, they've been complaining for a month now…