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MacRumors
Jun 10, 2003, 07:19 PM
Appleinsider.com posts a story (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=115) detailing upcoming rumors for WWDC.... including case designs, laptop updates, and possibly confirming (repeating?) some older rumors (here (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/videoconf.html), here (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/06/20030604135424.shtml)).



MacMarino
Jun 10, 2003, 07:22 PM
I guess that we will continue seing more and more rumours coming thick and fast the closer we get to WWDC. Which of the rumours does everyone think are the top 3 that will come to light at the show?:)

Huked on Fonick
Jun 10, 2003, 07:24 PM
Looks like another one of those, my friends, sisters, brothers friend who has has a pet mongose who herd......

TylerL
Jun 10, 2003, 07:28 PM
I love how "Apple employees" so matter-of-factly talk about upcoming products in such an easily digestable manner...

technocoy
Jun 10, 2003, 07:29 PM
bullarky!! hell, i don't know anymore...:p :confused:

MrBongHits
Jun 10, 2003, 07:31 PM
I dunno either, but that story was great. Apple employees all wasted hahahaha. Apple does hold keggers for their employees... at least the used to. Anyone remember this?

Who is Ruby?

trog
Jun 10, 2003, 07:36 PM
WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT!?

LOL. Entertaining at least, but seems just a tad far fetched. It felt like you were watching a movie and all the information had to be put into one scene cause they were running out of film!

Mudbug
Jun 10, 2003, 07:36 PM
I like silver...
I like metal...
I like handles...

Two Please.
Send the bill to Mr. Underhill, Cabana 10.
:D

MorganX
Jun 10, 2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Mudbug
I like silver...
I like metal...
I like handles...

Two Please.
Send the bill to Mr. Underhill, Cabana 10.
:D

With an adjustable display. That does sound inviting. Might be time to pass down my iMac.

DaveGee
Jun 10, 2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by foniks2020
To avoid the law and those nice Cease and Desist notices... all you have to do is publish some 'fiction' with your rumors in place of bad dialogue.

I give them credit for having the balls to flout Apple legal this way.

adjustable displays huh?

Thank you foniks2020!!!

I was just about to say the exact same thing! Great way to have some fun...

Dave

jholzner
Jun 10, 2003, 07:44 PM
Is there really a rumor that they're bringing FileMaker back in-house? I always thought that would be a great idea...especially now that Apple is becoming a pretty big software company.

soggywulf
Jun 10, 2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by foniks2020
To avoid the law and those nice Cease and Desist notices... all you have to do is publish some 'fiction' with your rumors in place of bad dialogue.

I give them credit for having the balls to flout Apple legal this way.

adjustable displays huh?

I love it. Kinda like the CSS haiku. :)

jimthorn
Jun 10, 2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by zigi
Bit like those way fake porno stories. :D

"Let me show you why it's called a POWER Mac," he said.

jholzner
Jun 10, 2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by foniks2020
To avoid the law and those nice Cease and Desist notices... all you have to do is publish some 'fiction' with your rumors in place of bad dialogue.

I give them credit for having the balls to flout Apple legal this way.

adjustable displays huh?

It was looprumors who posted the story about the adjustable displays. Take a look at http://looprumors.com. It's currently the 3rd story down, dated June 4th.

mactastic
Jun 10, 2003, 07:52 PM
egads, lets hope the writer isn't planning on making a career out of it! Terrible dialogue, and not believable at all. Of course it does get the point across.:p

TMA
Jun 10, 2003, 07:52 PM
So to summerise what AI say:

- PowerBook Speed Bumps

- PowerMac G5 with "all silver and graphite, no more chrome or clear plastic" "4 handles but they are thinner and less extrusive" "the front of the machine is flourished by this mesh metallic surface, with the superdrive now higher up on the case"

- iChat with MPEG4 Video Conferencing and new Camera

- Adjustable Cinema Display

- Filemaker back in-house?

I agree with what others have said, seems like a great way to circumvent or get round Apples legal department. Go at 'em AI!

iznAdiznam
Jun 10, 2003, 07:55 PM
Interesting, yet geeky in a comforting way.

Nice!

I _so_ hope these rumors are true....

Take care of your shoes,
Adam

TMA
Jun 10, 2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Marvin K Mooney
This is like the poorly written erotica as found in the penthouse letters section or whatever... Vaguely paste together some silly circumstance to use as a vehicle to get to the jucy stuff-- but just as I don't belive Joe from Florida made it with a Mother and Daughter while he was cleaning their pool, I don't believe there were apple employees babbling to eachother in such a clear and discernable manner about things that so specifically relate to the going rumors dujour...:D

I'm sure Appleinsider don't expect anyone to believe that was a normal conversation. It was just used as a vehicle to get the information across.

neilt
Jun 10, 2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by MrBongHits
who the hell is RUBY?

My guess is John Rubinstien.....
isn't he VP of hardware?

Marvin K Mooney
Jun 10, 2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by TMA
I'm sure Appleinsider don't expect anyone to believe that was a normal conversation. It was just used as a vehicle to get the information across.

I'm sure you're right, at least I Hope so... for their sake...;)

cb911
Jun 10, 2003, 08:04 PM
he he :) that's some funny reading, but from the sounds of it the new 15" will have the same features as the 17 & 12". that's good, but it also said that the 15 will have faster chips. would have preferred to hear that they would have new chips, but we'll have to wait and see.

jimthorn
Jun 10, 2003, 08:08 PM
I'm still very curious about seeing these rumored "iChat cameras". Perhaps they needed to implement that latest Quicktime 6.3 (with 3GPP) as a means of getting them to work.

The Ancients
Jun 10, 2003, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by cb911
he he :) that's some funny reading, but from the sounds of it the new 15" will have the same features as the 17 & 12". that's good, but it also said that the 15 will have faster chips. would have preferred to hear that they would have new chips, but we'll have to wait and see.


The guy was drunk (or the author...) give him a break ;)

Groovsonic
Jun 10, 2003, 08:15 PM
Ok...

That was some cheesy crap. The dialouge was somewhere between a Skinimax late-night movie and an episode of "Family matters", "Full House", or "Step by Step"... Awful...

I hope the information was correct though.

But I doubt it.

Hate to be the pessimist, but I think everyone is going to be dissapointed. I hope I am wrong though.

Rocketman
Jun 10, 2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by foniks2020
To avoid the law and those nice Cease and Desist notices... all you have to do is publish some 'fiction' with your rumors in place of bad dialogue.

I give them credit for having the balls to flout Apple legal this way.

adjustable displays huh?

What I do not understand is why this site would not even want to publish which catagories of rumous were pulled. It is news. It is a free speech issue. If it does not contain the original content. It does not violate Apple policy and let's face it, like it or not, Mac rumors sites, even this one needs to not get a cease and desist from Apple.

Rocketman

Arn you are GOD. Have Balls.

Bodhi
Jun 10, 2003, 08:22 PM
You guys DO know that it's a fictional setting with real specs peppered through it right? Just making sure...

Think Naked Mole Rat style...

jholzner
Jun 10, 2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Groovsonic
Ok...

That was some cheesy crap. The dialouge was somewhere between a Skinimax late-night movie and an episode of "Family matters", "Full House", or "Step by Step"... Awful...

I hope the information was correct though.

But I doubt it.

Hate to be the pessimist, but I think everyone is going to be dissapointed. I hope I am wrong though.

Don't forget "Just the Ten of Us, "Perfect Strangers," and "7th Heaven" :D :cool:

zuggerat
Jun 10, 2003, 08:52 PM
the powermac keeps its silvery style and love handles this gonna be awesome....AHHHH CANT WAIT!

AidenShaw
Jun 10, 2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by oaklandbum
Not to mention the fact that Palo Alto is a very upscale and ritzy place, though the person made it sound like they were at some lame bar drinking something watered down beer like bud light that they don't mind spilling. At least research your fictional stories a little be before posting them! C'mon people. :p

Check out the Old Pro's Sports Bar - it's in a Quonset hut on El Camino. Has stools, and serves steak.

http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2002/2002_10_11.dining.html

Except for the smoking (artistic license), right on!

BillyShears
Jun 10, 2003, 09:33 PM
That was a great story. Reminded me of the scene in Wayne's World where Chris Farley gives Wayne too much information... but later it comes in handy. Anyone familiar with the movie should know what I mean.

Then again, I may have spent some time with DrBongHits, here...

blueBomber
Jun 10, 2003, 09:34 PM
This thing is hilarious! I like how he incorporated almost every rumor that has been flying around. :D

Chef Ramen
Jun 10, 2003, 09:36 PM
at first, i thought maybe he was trying to be serious, but by the end i was like ehh wtf? :confused:. i never considered that it was written in a comedic fashion until i came to this thread :D LOL

they should do that more often

KershMan
Jun 10, 2003, 09:39 PM
Anyone notice Macwhispers posted similar information earlier today. They claim to have it from OEM contacts from within the Apple supply chain and not just rumors.

http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/archives/000071.php

arn
Jun 10, 2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by KershMan
They claim to have it from OEM contacts from within the Apple supply chain and not just rumors.


same difference.

arn

maxigalaxy
Jun 10, 2003, 09:46 PM
Just got a call.
pb 15 G4 updated
pb 12 G4 updated
pm 970
out 23rd

working for apple

snahabed
Jun 10, 2003, 09:51 PM
i am utterly horrified that some of you are taking that as a literal conversation.

and here i thought mac users were smarter? :rolleyes:

anyway, it all sounds great, but i thought apple was trying to get AWAY from announcing so much stuff at one event, in favor of spread out announcements? This is a hell of a lot at once!

blakespot
Jun 10, 2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by trog
WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT!?

LOL. Entertaining at least, but seems just a tad far fetched. It felt like you were watching a movie and all the information had to be put into one scene cause they were running out of film!

Totally agreed.



blakespot

wrc fan
Jun 10, 2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by AidenShaw
Check out the Old Pro's Sports Bar - it's in a Quonset hut on El Camino. Has stools, and serves steak.

http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2002/2002_10_11.dining.html

Except for the smoking (artistic license), right on!

actually that's a lot nicer than the place I pictured from there story. Besides, I was only joking along with that guy before me. :rolleyes:

daRAT
Jun 10, 2003, 10:15 PM
Now we know who Jayson Blair is writing for ... :rolleyes:

FriarTuck
Jun 10, 2003, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by daRAT
Now we know who Jayson Blair is writing for ... :rolleyes:

:) LOL

I think they're playing the percentages.

You throw enough junk out there, you're bound to be right about something, and then you take credit for that and sweep the rest under the carpet.

JediMacster
Jun 10, 2003, 10:33 PM
Snaps his fingers

Now I know what is missing from this article...

"Once upon a time..."

:D

freundt
Jun 10, 2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by maxigalaxy
Just got a call.
pb 15 G4 updated
pb 12 G4 updated
pm 970
out 23rd

working for apple

Really? WOW!

I just had my elfin friend and spiritual advisor Landar tell me while I was channeling his essence that the powerbook would have dual G4's and that mattel was putting out an easy bake oven, and recommending using this new powerbook as the heat source instead of a lightbulb.

So, who to believe.

But seriously, I wouldn't doubt the fact that apple is trying to either squash the hype so it doesn't go too far mainstream or just squashing it because they can.

_f

p.s. sorry for the glib tone, maxigalaxy , but seriously, would you believe you if you were me?

soggywulf
Jun 10, 2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by maxigalaxy
Just got a call.
pb 15 G4 updated
pb 12 G4 updated
pm 970
out 23rd

working for apple

If you're not a troll, thx for the info. :) Nice to see the softspoken types getting the real dirt.

rjwill246
Jun 10, 2003, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by seamuskrat
That was an excellent representation of creative license. A fun story, with pertinent information, yet wildly far-fetched to stave off even Apple Legal.


You my friend seem to be one of the few who seems to get it. Can you believe all the other replies to this artsy make-believe conversation as if it were written literally? I am stunned by my adopted countrymens' inability to grasp things ephemeral, if not literal! HELLO???? It was meant to convey a truth (or series of them) in a form that will NOT attract Apple's legal eagles. Ring da bells!!!!!

Apple IS going to go with the 970 and it will be sooner than later. Any other course is a disaster for Apple and even if they continue on with some relationship with Moto ( it has some utility in competition of sorts) they must do the 970s... otherwise they and we, as ardent Mac users are totally stuffed. And that, is the literal truth.
L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y, Mmm!

Awimoway
Jun 10, 2003, 10:57 PM
AI broke the dam. After their news over the weekend, several other sites have repeated the same info. I kind of think that this is not because they are simply repeating what AI said, but because they have corroborating information. After all, very little that MacBidouille has posted over the last several weeks has made waves outside of the rumor community. Their info wasn't particularly different, but MacBis has been fairly quiet in the last couple weeks. The difference is in the high degree of AI's detail and the fact that as we get closer to the announcement, a lot more people are bound to know.

My point is that I think this AI has solid sources and today's story is not just a lame way of throwing a net and seeing what comes up at WWDC.


And I don't know who "Solomon" is, but the fact that they made him/her sound a little like a blabber makes me think AI's contact(s) don't like this person and want to get them in trouble.

soggywulf
Jun 10, 2003, 10:59 PM
Yes. Another point that seems to be escaping out the pressure valve is that the poorly written nature of the article is part of the joke, as it emphasizes the contrived, circumvential purpose of the depicted situation. IOW it simultaneously utilizes and mocks the method it represents.

Thom_Edwards
Jun 10, 2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by snahabed
i am utterly horrified that some of you are taking that as a literal conversation.

and here i thought mac users were smarter? :rolleyes:

anyway, it all sounds great, but i thought apple was trying to get AWAY from announcing so much stuff at one event, in favor of spread out announcements? This is a hell of a lot at once!

i'm with you on this one. and for those that think it had bad dialogue, etc., i even think it was well written! this writing style, while not mainstream, certainly has its place and flair.
i could see the scene in my head--some hip, urban-dive bar with big windows looking out to the street, geeks speaking to each other in for...next loops, using gawking at females they'll never even speak to. sounds like a place i would want to go to (again and again and again....:D ) i could see this as a scene in some movie--kind of like the old private dick movies with the estranged woman, looking for help, only these are apple geeks looking for the answer to all their dreams! god bless us, every one!

Sun Baked
Jun 10, 2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by MacQuest
I'm sorry ya'll, but I haven't even gotten past the first page of this thread and I'm already shocked at comments like the one above!!:mad:

How frickin' ignorant do you have to be to not understand that this was just a cover up scenario to post the rumor filled content!!:mad:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!:mad: ....Oh...Uh...head hurts...brain aneurism...geez...gotta go...

:mad: Yes the comments... :D

rjwill246
Jun 10, 2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by MacQuest
...it "may be"... :rolleyes:

:mad:
Okay! I agree... it MIGHT be....
So, you understand subjunctives??
I think that I should faint clear away... dear Gussie!

Arcady
Jun 11, 2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by neutrino23
OK, give us a little more than that! Are you saying the 15 inch will still be a G4? Any clues about how it will be updated? Backlit keyboard?

He calls it a "pb 15 g4" in his message (whatever that's worth) :rolleyes:

MOM
Jun 11, 2003, 12:45 AM
For those of you who didn't understand that the AppleInsider story was rumor wrapped in farce by the second sentence, please refrain from ever reading a NMR report. I'm sorry but the Gay Blade's wrtting could cause some serious injury your case. Wait till it gets to this site and has been properly edited for your consumption.

Concerned,

MOM

RandomDeadHead
Jun 11, 2003, 02:27 AM
This WWDC will be forever remembered for having rumors so thick you could cut them with a knife

macnews
Jun 11, 2003, 03:16 AM
I have a hard time believing we will see so much new stuff at WWDC. Chips, displays, cams, software, etc, etc. it just doesn't ring true with what Apple has done in the past. It also doesn't make sense from a business stand point as well. Announcing all this at WWDC would be like a shotgun blast to the market. No one would be able to focus on a few items, the hub bub would rise for a few weeks and then die. Excitement drops, they (the market, Pceee users) forget Apple has great new stuff. Apple does seem to be taking a more slow release approach. Toss out a new item here, an other there and so on. Each on gets decent press, maybe some more than others, but the Apple brand name ends up in the news on a more consistant basis. This approach will help get people to switch, seems in line with what they have been doing and thus tends to make me believe the eWeek story more.

WWDC should be good but I am not looking for all this stuff there. I hope new 970, G5s whatever, will be announced. A few other smaller offerings would be great too and then dribble out the rest over July, August and Sept. Only downside is if you want a new system, wait until Sept. otherwise you could pay another $129 for Panther or someother fandango product that you just missed out on.

GeeYouEye
Jun 11, 2003, 03:34 AM
The writing wasn't even that bad. I've seen significantly worse sci-fi fanfic ("Space is empty. But not really empty. In fact, it's not very empty at all in certain places." Bleach. It read like the bastard child of the writings of Douglass Adams and Scott Adams). If it hadn't been for the smoking thing, it would almost be believable.

jcdenton
Jun 11, 2003, 03:42 AM
I wish I could believe AppleInsider was onto something here, but it looks to me like they're on to a bit too much. New PowerBook specs, Power Mac G5s, new QuickTime streaming, P2P MPEG4 conferencing in iChat, a new video camera, a new office suite, reabsorbing FileMaker, adjustable Cinema Displays...

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see all that in a few weeks' time. But that's a pretty radical product shift to take in all at once. I doubt Steve could pull that off even if he wanted to (hope this last statement isn't heresy).

iSegway
Jun 11, 2003, 04:06 AM
Could someone please tell me how it is possible that the G5 will be available immediately after being released at WWDC... yet no one has written in with a more detailed description... or a drawing of some kind?

Wouldn't people have seen them by now if they were all boxed up in some factory? Commercials and print ads made? Factory workers having assembled thousands of them... and on and on and on..

Yet still no artists rendering or even a detailed description?

mangoduck
Jun 11, 2003, 05:40 AM
I love how "Apple employees" so matter-of-factly talk about upcoming products in such an easily digestable manner...

convenient, no? it seems someone at appleinsider has taken a creative writing course.

nagromme
Jun 11, 2003, 05:47 AM
Some people seem to think that the AI article doesn't describe a literal event and conversation.

Hmmm. That got me thinking. The Gay Blade's info on a new 64-bit super Project Builder mentions Apple employees wearing saffron robes and chanting while passing out snacks. What if THAT'S not literally tue either? My head is spinning!

Funniest thread ever, by the way. At midnight on the 23rd, someone should clip together all the choicest lines into a summary worthy of Sherlock.

mgescuro
Jun 11, 2003, 06:03 AM
Yeaah... it could be true.

I heard about the iChat enabled camera from a guy from Apple I met at a bar (The Blue Chalk) in Palo Alto as well. He didn't know much more than that though, and I felt guilty about prying him for information.

You can bet that the new PowerBooks will be out at WWDC. Panther is for sure going to be introduced. As for the "G5" towers... who knows. IBM's been in production for a while. It's just a matter of time before Apple is going to release them. Releasing the "G5" does make some sense. And then panther in September. Get as much as a boost in processor speed because the normal Joe Idiot PC user out here still believes in > MHz is better.

As far as FileMaker coming back in house?? Perhaps. But that would add further credence to an "Office Suite." But if FileMaker is bleeding... then there will be Biiiiiig layoffs to get them in line.

FriarTuck
Jun 11, 2003, 08:55 AM
What's with the pulled posts?

There was some really funny stuff in there (some intentionally funny, some not) and now it's been sanitized.

:confused:

MorganX
Jun 11, 2003, 08:56 AM
Wouldn't it be nice if Apple jumped ahead of the curve by incorporating PCI-Express?

Should be hitting PCs in the 4Q.

QuiteSure
Jun 11, 2003, 09:18 AM
I am swearing off M&Ms and Apple rumors until WWDC. A man can only take so much!








Well, maybe not the M&Ms...;)

maxigalaxy
Jun 11, 2003, 09:40 AM
When Apple release a new pb on the 23th (g4 or 970) and
for some reason they are not availible in store,do you think
the old one will be sold for a few days still?

jettredmont
Jun 11, 2003, 10:22 AM
That has to be about the worst piece of fiction writing I ever allowed myself to read. Man, if you're going to write in a style at least verse yourself in the style! As the Apple Turns is a great example of a site with a well-maintained style. This reminds me of the drivel that passes for a movie review at Ain't It Cool News, although at least there the "personal tidbis" have some remote relationship to the overall review. Here, the style completely detracts from the story.

And what story is there (other than the idea that Apple programmers have an infinite knowledge of all aspects of the Apple business, and ogle at waitresses as a pasttime)? Scant repeats of previous rumors, lumped into stilted dialog.

IMHO, this is Page 2 material.

DGFan
Jun 11, 2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Rocketman
What I do not understand is why this site would not even want to publish which catagories of rumous were pulled. It is news. It is a free speech issue. If it does not contain the original content. It does not violate Apple policy and let's face it, like it or not, Mac rumors sites, even this one needs to not get a cease and desist from Apple.

Rocketman

Arn you are GOD. Have Balls.

I agree. Apple would have no legal legs to stand on if someone posted here (and I am making this up) that MB had to pull the article about the 970 benchmarks or about the case design.

The original content disappearing is reasonable. But to expect everyone else to pretend it never existed is going well into censorship.

It's their site and they can censor anything they want. But it doesn't stop it from being censorship.

MacQuest
Jun 11, 2003, 11:10 AM
Just checking to see if I've been banned for my off topic posts last night... :)

edit...

no...but if u want to get banned, keep it up...

I spent some time this morning deleting your worthless posting in here... :rolleyes:

jettredmont
Jun 11, 2003, 11:21 AM
"Yeah Carlose called me a couple of months ago. Apparently File Maker was bleeding money. They laid him off -- with a bunch of others -- before they began the move. They didn't even give him a damn severance package or nothing."


Having known some very recently laid-off Apple employees, I have a very hard time believing this. Apple's severance packages lately have been far above industry norm ...

SilentPanda
Jun 11, 2003, 11:50 AM
I wish Apple would come out with tube socks.

(I don't know why I wrote that... I just felt compelled.)

Pull that Apple Legal!

whooleytoo
Jun 11, 2003, 12:39 PM
(Scene: Mid 1990's.. The curtains part, and a stocky middle-aged walks into a smokey room, filled with the intoxicating smell of incense. He walks over to a table at the centre of the room where the medium sits, expectantly stroking her crystal ball...)

Amelio: Hi! I'm Gi..
Medium: I've been expecting you. You want to know where Apple will be in 10 years time, yes?

Amelio: Sure! Just need to know how many beige boxes we'll be cranking out then. Heheh.
Medium: Mmmm.... none, actually. But don't sweat it..

Amelio: But... Apple will still be in business, riiight?
Medium: Sure, the Microsoft investment sure helped there.

Amelio: Eh? You do know I'm the A.P.P.L.E guy..
Medium: Shhhh! Workstations. 64bit RISC workstations. Using IBM processors. Running a Unix OS. That's where Apple's money's at... but my French is a little shaky. Them and music players. Oh, and a music store.

Amelio: Music...store..? Wait a minute, is there a hidden camera? You guys!! Heheh.
Medium: No, it's all the truth. That's what Steve Jobs will announce.

Amelio: STEVE JOBS?? What's going to happen to Gil Amelio???
Medium:... Sorry, who the hell is Gil Amelio...?

<fade to black>

Seriously, I can't imagine what ANY Mac user from 10 years ago would have thought of Apple's upcoming product being a 64bit RISC Unix workstation. How the times have changed... :)

Mike.

syntax
Jun 11, 2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by MOM
For those of you who didn't understand that the AppleInsider story was rumor wrapped in farce by the second sentence, please refrain from ever reading a NMR report. I'm sorry but the Gay Blade's wrtting could cause some serious injury your case. Wait till it gets to this site and has been properly edited for your consumption.

Concerned,

MOM

we got it, all right -- it's just that it was excruciatingly belabored and badly written.

i thought appleinsider jumped the shark around the time its updates started occuring quarterly -- but it's entering macosrumors territory now. is ryan meader on their staff all of a sudden?

MrBongHits
Jun 11, 2003, 01:07 PM
How come you damn mods keep erasing my posts!

Just cause I was high when I wrote them. What If I had glocoma??

Anyway. was re reading the article this morning. when i read it last night it seemed like only a 15" bump but couldnt that who part about the powerbook(S)!! which had an s on it mean they all are speed bumped and not just the 15. the 15" hardware is a little older than the 12" and 17", as is the case design... Duh... so i think it means

new 12", 15" an 17" powerbooks withh faster G4 processors

15" casing/motherboard synced with 12 and 17 finally.

BOYAH! TEDDY RUPSKIN!

dongmin
Jun 11, 2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by DGFan
I agree. Apple would have no legal legs to stand on if someone posted here (and I am making this up) that MB had to pull the article about the 970 benchmarks or about the case design.

The original content disappearing is reasonable. But to expect everyone else to pretend it never existed is going well into censorship.

It's their site and they can censor anything they want. But it doesn't stop it from being censorship.

Genuine legal action by Apple has always, to my memory, targetted rumors that have turned out to be true. Of course, some rumor-mongers have faked Apple legal action in order to make their made-up stories seem more credible. Quite a bizarre community we're part of, aren't we?

nagromme
Jun 11, 2003, 01:31 PM
I agree on the censorship. I don't know what was deleted, but discussing WHAT was pulled by Apple Legal on other sites should be fair game. Those sites still exist after pulling the stories... you'd think a site that simply contained a forum posting would be even safer. Just pull the content IF asked (even ban the user if it violates the forum service agreement) but the site goes on.

Besides, its the person who violated the NDA that stands to get in trouble--people can repeat what they heard all they want, it's just free speech. I suport Apple's right to protect their secrets, but I just don't think the law is with them any further than the NDA itself.

Yet MacRumors posted a very specific warning that this site would be endangered by such posts. So I suspect MacRumors has ALREADY received threats in ADVANCE about that from Apple Legal--specific and very serious ones, perhaps along with threats not to reveal the threats?

If so, Apple is almost certainly legally in the wrong, but knows they can bully a tiny site without haing to worry about what's legal. They have the money for the lawyers.

Now... if this speculation gets deleted, we can be VERY suspicious.

Lastly, just to stir things up for no good reason... it's always possible that a site PRETENDS to have things pulled by Apple Legal, just as a publicity stunt. I'm just pointing out the possibility--not the likelihood. Stranger things have happened.

(What was the nature of the posts that were deleted here? I thought the conversation was pretty funny. Not always highly productive, but then this IS discussion of rumors and fiction!)

zuggerat
Jun 11, 2003, 01:48 PM
i dunno, drunk peep from where im from dont usually talk with such clarity, and then switch to chaotic speech that quickly

QuiteSure
Jun 11, 2003, 02:19 PM
I dunno, this is a funny thread that can't quite figure out what it's about...censorship, rumors or tube socks.

Still no M&Ms, 2 hours and counting; only approx 288 hrs to WWDC!

Regular Joe
Jun 11, 2003, 03:15 PM
Funny how all you guys are concentrating on the Mac rumors splattered throughout that article...

I want to know about the appetizing waitresses in the black mini-skirts. :D

rjstanford
Jun 11, 2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by maxigalaxy
When Apple release a new pb on the 23th (g4 or 970) and
for some reason they are not availible in store,do you think
the old one will be sold for a few days still? If and when new product is released, look for the remaining stock to be sold on Apple's site. Check out the bottom-left corner of the page, the big red "SAVE" tag. Your product may be labelled as "refurbished", of course.

-Richard

Laurent
Jun 11, 2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by whooley
(Scene: Mid 1990's.. The curtains part, and a stocky middle-aged walks into a smokey room, filled with the intoxicating smell of incense. He walks over to a table at the centre of the room where the medium sits, expectantly stroking her crystal ball...)

Amelio: Hi! I'm Gi..
Medium: I've been expecting you. You want to know where Apple will be in 10 years time, yes?

Amelio: Sure! Just need to know how many beige boxes we'll be cranking out then. Heheh.
Medium: Mmmm.... none, actually. But don't sweat it..

Amelio: But... Apple will still be in business, riiight?
Medium: Sure, the Microsoft investment sure helped there.

Amelio: Eh? You do know I'm the A.P.P.L.E guy..
Medium: Shhhh! Workstations. 64bit RISC workstations. Using IBM processors. Running a Unix OS. That's where Apple's money's at... but my French is a little shaky. Them and music players. Oh, and a music store.

Amelio: Music...store..? Wait a minute, is there a hidden camera? You guys!! Heheh.
Medium: No, it's all the truth. That's what Steve Jobs will announce.

Amelio: STEVE JOBS?? What's going to happen to Gil Amelio???
Medium:... Sorry, who the hell is Gil Amelio...?

<fade to black>

Seriously, I can't imagine what ANY Mac user from 10 years ago would have thought of Apple's upcoming product being a 64bit RISC Unix workstation. How the times have changed... :)

Mike."Do you want to sell sugared water the rest of your life, or do you want to make history?"
— Steve Jobs

Very nice Mike... ^_^

arn
Jun 13, 2003, 10:43 AM
I think people are too distracted by the writing style.

I feel much of the info in this article is likely real. We'll see though...

arn