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tominated
Mar 30, 2007, 02:58 AM
I was just wondering if anybody could help me on this. I am not buying yet, but will sometime this year. I like fps and wanna get halo 3, crackdown and GoW, but I played the wii at some friends houses and quite like it. Should I get a wii or is it only the nintendo games for wii that are good?

EM87
Mar 30, 2007, 03:34 AM
360 is great fun so I would go with it if I was you, it also has some great games coming soon such as Mass Effect, Halo 3 and Forza 2.

timmillwood
Mar 30, 2007, 04:02 AM
they are 100% different.

Everyone should have a Wii AND either a 360 or PS3

If you like sports games, fun mini games and downloading retro games then get the Wii.

If you like FPS, Role Play, Driving, and all the other games get a 360 or PS3.

I have a Wii and love the fun Nintendo games and it is great for that, once i try FPS games, which i also love, it is just so hard to control.

I will be getting a PS3 and a 1080p TV when i have the money, the graphics are much better. I am just worried because i won't be able to buy gears of war or Halo.

Fearless Leader
Mar 30, 2007, 04:07 AM
my view on the console world.

360= the fps decent-hardcore gammer. with good game base
wii= family console with no super blow your mind games
ps3= rich kids toy/cheap man's blueray player

edit: These are generalizations, and very stereotypical. Yes hardcore gammers use the wii as main system, families probably use the 360 and its non fps games (cant imagine grandma playing gears of war), and yes even non-rich kids buy the ps3.

tominated
Mar 30, 2007, 06:03 AM
thanks for your help. I reckon i'll go for the 360. I like my fps games and my friends (that live just down the road) have the wii, so i can play with them!

pcypert
Mar 30, 2007, 06:21 AM
I'd get 360 now...since you can find them and there are good deals...then get the Wii once the hype is down and more games are out. I love the 360, but prefer the easy to get into Nintendo type games if that makes sense. The 360 is what a gaming system should be these days and should offer: online and off...Wii is great in house with friends mostly (though that will change)

Paul

grapes911
Mar 30, 2007, 06:24 AM
ps3= rich kids toy/cheap man's blueray player
I'm actually kind of insulted. I'm certainly not rich (although I'd like to be), I only own one Blu-ray Disc, and I own a PS3. Damn, I must have missed the memo that this game system isn't for me! :rolleyes:


Personally, the 360 and PS3 are near identical systems. Once you factor all the extras into the price of either system, we are now looking in the $850 range and we aren't even talking about games yet. Not everyone needs all the extras, and most won't purchase them right away, but over the life of the system more of us will buy one accessory/upgrade at a time and then the next thing you know we've all paid over a $1000 bucks anyway.

360 has more games, but I'm sure PS3 will start to catch up. When the original Xbox came out people always spoke about the PS2 having more games. After a year or so, people forgot all about it because new games came out for both systems at approximately the same time.

As for the Wii. I loved playing it at friends houses so I purchased one. Once I had one for myself, it started to suck. The Wiimote's novelty wore off and I haven't really touched it since the first week I purchased it. The only reason I haven't sold it is because I'm holding on to the hope that eventually a game will come out that keeps my attention for more than 10 minutes.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd get a 360 or a PS3 (I couldn't care less which one). I'd eventually get a Wii, but I'd wait a year or two (maybe even for the first price drop). That way I'd actually have some games that I'd like to play.

Sky Blue
Mar 30, 2007, 06:38 AM
Ps3

tominated
Mar 30, 2007, 06:40 AM
I am going to hold out until the elite comes out and the price drops for the premium pack. i guess i'll probably get bored with the wii with it's cutesy-wutsy games (i have the attention span of a peice of *****). I don't get bored with a good fps with online play!:D

debroglie
Mar 30, 2007, 07:13 AM
I am going to hold out until the elite comes out and the price drops for the premium pack. i guess i'll probably get bored with the wii with it's cutesy-wutsy games (i have the attention span of a peice of *****). I don't get bored with a good fps with online play!:D


I don't believe that there will be any price drop on the premium, but right now at Walmart I believe if you buy the premium for 400 you get a $50 gift card that you could turn around and use on a controller/game.

I, for the longest time, wanted a Wii. I even bought a wii remote for it before I had the console. In the end, I played my friend's wii for a couple weeks and decided that I'd get the 360 instead. I am very happy with that decision. I'm not saying that the Wii isn't a fun console, it just isn't for me.

Now I can play my soccer games, stream music/pictures/videos to my hdtv, and play forza2 when it comes out.

whooleytoo
Mar 30, 2007, 07:21 AM
If you were buying now, I'd say the 360. Because of the games available, nothing else. I would give a warning though, there do seem to be a lot of 360s going back for repair (mine is) so you might want to bear that in mind.

Later in the year, you'd have to see how the games that come out stack up at that point. I love my Wii, but bar Zelda the game lineup looks weak to me so far. Little Big Planet looks like the game that'll get me to buy a PS3. YMMV.

Jasonbot
Mar 30, 2007, 07:53 AM
360 ftw, pwn t3h n00bs!!! Woot woot

zelmo
Mar 30, 2007, 07:58 AM
If it weren't for my son's enthusiasm for Wii Sports, I might be regretting the console purchase. Not a huge Zelda fan [bought it at launch and haven't even put it in the console yet:rolleyes:], so there isn't too much out now that makes me really glad I got it. Wii Sports is a lot of fun, and Excite Truck is, too.
I get about as much mileage from my 360 as I do my PS3, and I'm getting antsy for the next wave of big PS3 releases like Lair, Heavenly Sword, and MGS4 to make me happy. I don't own a single BR-DVD yet, but The Fifth Element and Casino Royale keep calling my name.
That being said, I'm still glad I have all three.

For right now, I'd stick with a 360 and wait for more games to come to either of the other two.

xfiftyfour
Mar 30, 2007, 07:59 AM
360 for sure if you want any real gaming. I have a Wii, but that's because I'm not a hardcore gamer, and I prefer the fun, lighthearted games.. It's a great system, but it's definitely not the "gamer's" system.

Mattydj
Mar 30, 2007, 08:15 AM
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Dagless
Mar 30, 2007, 08:21 AM
360 for sure if you want any real gaming. I have a Wii, but that's because I'm not a hardcore gamer, and I prefer the fun, lighthearted games.. It's a great system, but it's definitely not the "gamer's" system.

Huh? I've been a gamer for the past 17 years and the Wii is my console of choice. :confused:

anti-microsoft
Mar 30, 2007, 08:25 AM
Wii Defenitly!!

Fun, wifi, nice design!!!

rockthecasbah
Mar 30, 2007, 08:27 AM
Wii Defenitly!!

Fun, wifi, nice design!!!
I really could not have predicted that from your name! :p

applekid
Mar 30, 2007, 09:17 AM
Wii60

TheGimp
Mar 30, 2007, 09:26 AM
If you buy a Wii, just know that its promise of sociable gaming won't be enough to compensate for not having friends, or for having alienated those friends, lovers, or family members from you may have become estranged over the years for playing all these reclusive FPS games.

Put another way, Wii Tennis is fun and four people can play at once, but if your only gaming partners are likely to be your wife, mother or little sister (may these be 3 different people please), I recommend not putting all your eggs in the Wii's basket (or theirs) unless you ALSO are a Zelda fan (long-a$$ adventure), like cutsey minigames, enjoy making 'Miis', or are into retro gaming and playing on a real TV using a classic controller is a big draw for you compared to using emulators.

As a former 360 owner who was addicted to XBL for a few months and then sold it long before the Wii came out, the Wii represented for me a novel and less captivating way of dipping my toes back into gaming. If anything, the slim pickings in the Wii's library was a plus, not a negative point for buying a Wii. I knew there were several games I'd enjoy, such as Excite Truck and Zelda (plus the VC games), but I also looked forward to lack of online FPS (at least for a while) and the occasional dry spells that plague most new systems.

The Wii has been just the right amount of fun for my needs. Almost. I would have been more pleased if Zelda and Tennis had had 1:1 motion sensing/movement mapping (after all, what's the point of the sacrificing graphics for control novelty if it's implemented in a gimmicky, tacked on way). For example, the only game in wiisports that uses the nunchuk at all is ironically the one game that many feel plays and controls the worst (i.e. sluggish, imprecise responsiveness, hit detection) of any of the wiisports games. I found that to be true when playing my gf, against the cpu, or against several friends who came by.

Up until a recently, the only reason I've held on to the Wii a bit longer before selling is to enjoy the $50 worth of VC games I've purchased. However I did recently rent Excite Truck for the first time and, after investing a couple hours in mastering the controls, found it to be a true over-the-top enjoyable entertainment with outstanding controls that rotate through all axes, fantastic artistic conception/track design and pleasing pixels when sitting at least 6 feet away. One cannot fully describe the breathtaking thrill of finally 'getting it' after having been launched so helplessly through the air so many times; having all the controls click in such a way that huge jumps and the craziest turns are suddenly navigable on tracks previously deemed impossible. The braking mechanics and use of little jolts of boost (non-motion sensing functions of the control scheme) to slingshot back on track out of sharp turns are subtleties that help affirm that Excite Truck is indeed a game which rewards the hyper-focussing capacity of "true gamers" using their minds to succeed in cyberspace (in the case, figuring out the fantasy physics - shoulder lean!), moreover the motion sensing steering and chassis pitch adjustment are implemented so well (within the framework of the game's standard for 'success') that i couldn't ever imagine playing THAT game with conventional controls.

2nyRiggz
Mar 30, 2007, 09:27 AM
360 is the best for now...the wii is not offering anything right now and its just plain boring when you had enough of wii sports.

XBL is the best thing to happen to consoles since SNES.




Bless

BoyBach
Mar 30, 2007, 09:38 AM
Wii, lol, like penis...
360. PWN U N00B AT HALO!


:confused:

I'm an 'Oldie', so could someone please translate the poll options for me?

Thanks!

Jasonbot
Mar 30, 2007, 10:13 AM
:confused:

I'm an 'Oldie', so could someone please translate the poll options for me?

Thanks!

It's light hearted comedy


"Wii, lol, like penis..." He's mocking teh consoles name, like if you go to the toilet.

"360. PWN U N00B AT HALO!" -He's saying how you kill amateurs in the game Halo.

BoyBach
Mar 30, 2007, 10:15 AM
It's light hearted comedy


"Wii, lol, like penis..." He's mocking teh consoles name, like if you go to the toilet.

"360. PWN U N00B AT HALO!" -He's saying how you kill amateurs in the game Halo.


Thank you.

I'm not 'down with th' kidz!!'

;)

Corrosive vinyl
Mar 30, 2007, 11:31 AM
360 is the best for now...the wii is not offering anything right now and its just plain boring when you had enough of wii sports.

XBL is the best thing to happen to consoles since SNES.

What the OP has to remember is this:
if you are waiting to purchase a system, the operative word is waiting

I do agree that the 360 is a great console and I know some ppl who have one and are probably going to get one.

That being said, in a few months Nintendo is coming in with guns blazing, their guns being mario, metroid, SSB, etc. if these don't sound interesting to you a few months from now don't get the wii! If you have no reason to buy the wii besides wii sports and the games your friends already have, its better to get something else. Don't try eating steak every night, you will hate it very quickly!!

Veritas&Equitas
Mar 30, 2007, 11:53 AM
Huh? I've been a gamer for the past 17 years and the Wii is my console of choice. :confused:
I have to agree with xfiftyfour. True gamers are not going to like the Wii nearly as much as the 360. You may have been a gamer the past 17 years, but the Wii simply lacks any must have games, graphics don't compare, and the different kinds/amounts of games you can get for the 360 isn't even close to the Wii. FPS, Sports, RTS, you name it; there are some killer games for the 360, with amazing graphics and gameplay. The Wii is more like a family toy/get together type console, compared to the 360.

BoyBach
Mar 30, 2007, 12:17 PM
360 for sure if you want any real gaming. I have a Wii, but that's because I'm not a hardcore gamer, and I prefer the fun, lighthearted games.. It's a great system, but it's definitely not the "gamer's" system

True gamers are not going to like the Wii nearly as much as the 360.


Could you define a "true gamer" or a "hardcore gamer" for me please?

Fearless Leader
Mar 30, 2007, 12:21 PM
I'm actually kind of insulted. I'm certainly not rich (although I'd like to be), I only own one Blu-ray Disc, and I own a PS3. Damn, I must have missed the memo that this game system isn't for me! :rolleyes:


well I hate to be the barrener of bad news but you should of thought of that you stupid non-rich kid. :rolleyes: <- I thought that that was necessary because not enough sarcasm was sprinkled in my statement

xfiftyfour
Mar 30, 2007, 12:58 PM
Could you define a "true gamer" or a "hardcore gamer" for me please?

All I meant by that is someone who doesn't get into the "cutesy" minigames.. people that prefer high-end graphics and games like Halo and the like.. the "real" games instead of the lighthearted, "play with your friends drunk" games.

BoyBach
Mar 30, 2007, 01:02 PM
All I meant by that is someone who doesn't get into the "cutesy" minigames.. people that prefer high-end graphics and games like Halo and the like.. the "real" games instead of the lighthearted, "play with your friends drunk" games.


So the 'genre' of game that you enjoy or 'play' defines whether you're a "true-hardcore gamer" or a "non-true-hardcore gamer"?

netdog
Mar 30, 2007, 01:06 PM
Wii for sure.

savar
Mar 30, 2007, 01:11 PM
I was just wondering if anybody could help me on this. I am not buying yet, but will sometime this year. I like fps and wanna get halo 3, crackdown and GoW, but I played the wii at some friends houses and quite like it. Should I get a wii or is it only the nintendo games for wii that are good?

If you like FPS, I don't think the Wii is your cup of tea.

I've played the Wii a handful of times at various friends' places, and although I liked it at first, I got tired of it pretty quickly. The motion tracking isn't as impressive as it seemed at first, and its very poor at tracking velocity and acceleration -- which is why Wii tennis doesn't let you control the speed or angle with which you hit the ball. My friend plays Wii Tennis sitting down, flicking the controller with his wrist. To me, that seems totally contradictory to the experience that was promised. It's really not any different than pushing buttons on a controller or directions on a joystick.

Corrosive vinyl
Mar 30, 2007, 01:32 PM
So the 'genre' of game that you enjoy or 'play' defines whether you're a "true-hardcore gamer" or a "non-true-hardcore gamer"?

LOLZ!! I know hardcore gamers that love Nintendo and that will always be their company of choice, no matter what console is their newest. It is not because they like 'cutesy' games, but because that is what they enjoy.

I personally get tired of these 'hardcore' games that seem nearly impossible to beat. At some point in time they stop being fun because you have to jump through all these hoops just to progress in the game, I would much rather play a game that is difficult but doesn't seem impossible. Or, for that matter, what ever happened to playing a silly game just because you wanted to have fun for 30 minutes or less? That is what the people at nintendo probably were thinking about. They made a console to 'have fun with'. No jumping through hoops, no nearly impossible boss battles, just good clean fun. they still have some of those games coming up, like mario, metroid, but they also have games to play for the fun of playing a game.

almightyshoe
Mar 30, 2007, 01:34 PM
It's better to make friend's with someone who got the Wii and you can save your money for the xbox. The Wii is fun, but it gets old within one sitting. The Xbox has a fantastic line up already, plus some amazing games still lined up (Army of Two, Guitar Hero 2, Blue Dragon).

And getting achievements is a safer, more expensive alternative to crack. One more vote for the 360.

TheGimp
Mar 30, 2007, 01:47 PM
So the 'genre' of game that you enjoy or 'play' defines whether you're a "true-hardcore gamer" or a "non-true-hardcore gamer"?

I do not think he was referring to genre as much as to 'high-end graphics'.

Instead of trying to define 'hardcore gamer' and effectively throw good money after the gentleman's bad, why not attempt to define 'hardcore gaming' or, better yet, 'gaming'. Once this is accomplished, 'hardcore' will be a no-brainer modifier to the former. I would define hardcore gaming as making active video entertainment central to one's lifestyle and much more than just the occasional diversion. Such activity is sure to bring with it increased expectations for what types of rewards it can provide. The evolution of public leaderboards is a perfect example of those embracing the gamer lifestyle enjoying the prospect of social reward (even if 'pretend') to justify such a deep level of comittment to behavior and development of skill sets unlikely to be appreciated (and thus not rewarded in objective terms) in most other walks of life........A pretend life with pretend rewards, bragging rights, etc...Some games, however, are just plain fun, albeit with all the limitations of most other things that can are deemed fun (i.e. capable of mitigating but not alleviating the human condition, inevitable boredom with anything tainted by over-exposure). Many players fail to grasp this and explains in part why, for every few ravers, there is always the person who claims disappointment with a new title. Chances are, that person needs another Coke. That's what i drink when I start to get bored with Super Ghouls and Ghosts on the VC. Just like after school back in the day....
Some people depend on remote human competition.
Some people are content to compete against the cpu directly, or against themselves - setting their own tests to be surmounted - as in a puzzle game under time pressure. Similar to how some kids make up their own games with nonspecific goals using action figures or building a house of cards of indeterminate height, while others need the games to be structured toward achieving an objective goal. Still others require adult supervision in order to avoid cheating and other inappropriateness. Punkbusters is an extreme measure.
Some people need to be fooled into thinking the cpu thinks like a human
Some people still enjoying combatting foes with the AI of an 8-bit Bowser ce.

Some people order McDonald's sandwiches consisting entirely of condiments, wishing secretly that the condiments included wasabi and sliced pickled ginger, yet are realistic about what kind of product to expect
from such a high class establishment. If you buy a Wii, just make sure you know that most of the top games with be campaign driven, with little or no multiplayer in the *near* future. Right now it's a case of the Wii tasting great, but being less filling than the 360 in what it has to offer NOW. The Wii would be more like a plate of chirashi sushi (not quite enough sashimi) sprinkled with roe and shredded nori, which I myself would take over a steak dinner, but only because I've enjoyed enough steak dinners and in any case might still immediately scan the fridge upon arriving home. Like aspiring vegetarians and Mac users who are used to having less options from which to choose, Wii owners will have to be more careful to research the offerings before taking the plunge.

Lastly, before taking the advice of those who claim to have gamed their whole life and proclaim the wii to be 'console of choice', ask them what other systems they own. Once such MR member claimed recently to be 'Nintendo's friend' and enjoy the pure gaming experience the retro classics, but he did also claim a while back to have been playing Half-Life 2 on his second-hand 'gaming pc'. I mention this because many who will advise you to forget graphics fail to mention that they are getting their 'graphics fix' elsewhere. Kind of like Mario making a detour from his journey home to see his Cooking Mama to fix a more voluptuous woman's plumbing instead.

For those who cut to the chase, I'll propose the relevant question to be that of whether 'playing' constitutes 'gaming'. I would wager that this is *generally* not true - gaming is a subset of playing. However, in keeping with modern usage of 'game' in lexicon of video entertainment, it's fair to say that one person's 'game' is another person's 'play'. Whereas one might not see 'the point' (aka 'the game') in another's play, many people differ in what constitutes a specific goal.
For example, Nintendogs DOES have specific goals (e.g. using one's pet skills as a springboard to amassing material wealth, which in turn affords human dwelling upgrades, ultimately to the best condo offered). However it takes a certain subscription to that fanatasy for one to be sufficiently motivated to succeed by those rewards alone.I for one *barely* remembered (until writing this) there being any specific goal in that game, but I was pleasantly diverted for a while. Perhaps if Nintendogs were integrated as a subset of 'Second Life' - replete with public recognition and possible real financial rewards - such a title would be viewed by a greater audience as 'game' and not mere 'play'.

gkarris
Mar 30, 2007, 01:59 PM
HALO!

Plus you can walk into any store and buy a 360.

Wii - good luck finding one. The stores around here are getting them in, but they're gone within several hours...

xfiftyfour
Mar 30, 2007, 02:04 PM
gah, ya'll are hard to please. is it really that foreign to you that there are "hard core gamers" ? let's not get so caught up in the definition - I'm certainly not the person to define it.. I was just trying to throw out there what I think of when I consider those that would be interested in the Wii versus the 360. The Wii is the "family friendly" system. It doesn't value high-end graphics.. it's more interested in the "good ole entertainment" for you to share with your friends and family.. the mini games, the classic "nintendo".. the 360, on the other hand, caters to those that looking for the most realistic gaming experience and fps games..

My mom, for instance, is not a "gamer" - she never could figure out how to use a controller. But I brought my Wii to her place over Christmas, and she fell in love with it.

I'm not saying that the lines don't cross.. and that only one type of person likes each system.. of course there are gamers that love the Wii and "non-gamers" that enjoy their 360s.. but clearly each system was made with a certain player in mind.

BoyBach
Mar 30, 2007, 02:06 PM
I don't think he was referring to genre as much as 'high-end graphics'.

Instead of trying to define 'hardcore gamer' and effectively throw good money after the gentleman's bad, why not attempt to define 'hardcore gaming' or, better yet, 'gaming'. Once this is accomplished, 'hardcore' will be a no-brainer modifier to the former.


xfiftyfour quoted "cutesy minigames" and "real" games to try to distinguish between "hardcore" and "casual" not just "high-end" graphics.

(I'm all for a discussion about what qualifies a 'game' but this isn't the thread. I might start a new discussion/thread about it?)

Lastly, before taking the advice of those who claim to have gamed their whole life and proclaim the wii to be 'console of choice', ask them what other systems they own.


I don't think that the console(s) or PC that someone owns or has owned should disqualify them from passing on an opinion. Do you?

zap2
Mar 30, 2007, 02:09 PM
I have to agree with xfiftyfour. True gamers are not going to like the Wii nearly as much as the 360. You may have been a gamer the past 17 years, but the Wii simply lacks any must have games, graphics don't compare, and the different kinds/amounts of games you can get for the 360 isn't even close to the Wii. FPS, Sports, RTS, you name it; there are some killer games for the 360, with amazing graphics and gameplay. The Wii is more like a family toy/get together type console, compared to the 360.

:rolleyes:

I try to stay away from this kind of things, but it needs to be said.


The Wii is much young then the Xbox 360, I know that doesn't do anyone any good yet, but it wil. The Wii is going to have tons of every type of games..most systems do. Of the FPS, Sport, RTS the only one I know of the Wii lacking is RTS, and BWii is coming out, and looks pretty feaking good.

As for no "most have games"....did you miss LoZ:TP? Wii Sports? Wario Ware? All great games(Wario Ware being great is based on what other say, I've yet to play it.) the Wii currently has more great games the the Xbox 360 did when it was 4months old.



I know that XBox 360 currently has more games, but so does PS2/Xbox/NGC...that doesn't make the better

Corrosive vinyl
Mar 30, 2007, 02:14 PM
according to dictionary.com gaming/game is:
1. a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.

2. fun; sport of any kind; joke

3. anything resembling a game, as in requiring skill, endurance, or adherence to rules: the game of diplomacy.

4. any object of pursuit, attack, abuse, etc.: The new boy at school seemed to be fair game for practical jokers.

There are about 26 or so different definitions of game. I think that means something because so many people seem to believe that a game is one specific thing, and totally fluffing off other peoples definitions of game.

xfiftyfour
Mar 30, 2007, 02:40 PM
xfiftyfour quoted "cutesy minigames" and "real" games to try to distinguish between "hardcore" and "casual" not just "high-end" graphics.

(I'm all for a discussion about what qualifies a 'game' but this isn't the thread. I might start a new discussion/thread about it?)




I don't think that the console(s) or PC that someone owns or has owned should disqualify them from passing on an opinion. Do you?

I don't understand your point? Are you just trying to pick a fight, or are you making an actual argument? To me it sounds like you're nitpicking, without any real reason.

My only point is this: The Wii and the 360 target different gamers, although of course these lines will sometimes blend. If you're trying to argue that the Wii is capable of the same high-end gaming that the 360 is, then you're completely off. If you're trying to argue that a hard-core gamer is going to be just as satisfied with the Wii as he would with the 360, then again, I'd have to disagree. If you're NOT arguing one of these points, then please stop questioning every one of my posts, because it's annoying unless you have a reason or a counter-argument.

BoyBach
Mar 30, 2007, 03:06 PM
I don't understand your point? Are you just trying to pick a fight, or are you making an actual argument? To me it sounds like you're nitpicking, without any real reason.

My only point is this: The Wii and the 360 target different gamers, although of course these lines will sometimes blend. If you're trying to argue that the Wii is capable of the same high-end gaming that the 360 is, then you're completely off. If you're trying to argue that a hard-core gamer is going to be just as satisfied with the Wii as he would with the 360, then again, I'd have to disagree. If you're NOT arguing one of these points, then please stop questioning every one of my posts, because it's annoying unless you have a reason or a counter-argument.


I'm not trying to nit-pick or start an argument, and I apologise if my posts have lead you to believe that that was intention.

I've started a new thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3497765#post3497765) about what I was trying to get at. Please put forward your thoughts.

tominated
Mar 30, 2007, 04:23 PM
ok. I am definitely going with the 360. thanks for your help guys;)

zap2
Mar 30, 2007, 04:33 PM
ok. I am definitely going with the 360. thanks for your help guys;)

Good luck...I'll take my Wii over an XBox 360, but there both damn good console. You go Elite, Premium or Core(don't go Core!!)?

almightyshoe
Mar 30, 2007, 05:58 PM
Get the premium, get Xbox Live Gold, then add ChiaPope to your friends and we'll get our GoW on.

gamerz
Mar 30, 2007, 06:12 PM
go with the 360, xbox live, halo series, everything... The Wii is fun... but i would get that later if you want it to let some other good games come out.

EM87
Mar 30, 2007, 06:57 PM
Good choice :)
Get the premium (or elite if you want HDMI), a Xbox Live starter pack (come with 1 year subscription and headset) and Gears Of War and you'll be set! Just watch out for little bitchy kids on Live that scream into the mic and do all other sorts of stuff when you own them in Gears.

holamiamigos
Mar 30, 2007, 08:33 PM
wii when with girls.... 360 when with guys

zap2
Mar 30, 2007, 08:41 PM
wii when with girls.... 360 when with guys

:rolleyes: Please, put that sexist sterotype away, there are girls who play just as many video games, as anyone of this forum.

tominated
Mar 30, 2007, 08:59 PM
I will go with the premium because my parents plasma doesn't have hdmi (it was a cheap 42" teac). I will add as many people from here as possible, but probably in a few months (i still have to save up!).

TheGimp
Mar 30, 2007, 09:18 PM
xfiftyfour quoted "cutesy minigames" and "real" games to try to distinguish between "hardcore" and "casual" not just "high-end" graphics.


There are "casual" weekend drivers who enjoy the ultra realism of speeding around in a Mazda Miata, and "hardcore" Matchbox car hobbyists who enjoy setting up their fleet for an all-out non-contact duel.


I don't think that the console(s) or PC that someone owns or has owned should disqualify them from passing on an opinion. Do you?
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I never suggested that they be disqualified from doing such, only that such opinions should be taken with a grain of salt, especially when sollicited by someone who may not already own platforms capable of 'rounding out' the choices. Me telling you not to care about graphics and then playing HL2 on another system, the likes of which you yourself may NOT own, is kind of like an bored, over-sexed married person telling a virgin not to care so much about sex because of the disillusionment it may bring. People have to experience that for themselves.

If I tell you to buy a DS and not a PSP and NOT mention the the fact that, for many months, I enjoyed everything the PSP has to offer a newbie (e.g. the AAA games which I played to exhaustion), my opinion on the DS would still be valuable but I 'd being doing you a disservice by passing it off as a true preference instead of one shaped in part by *eventual* boredom with latter. Why bother contributing the truth if not the whole truth?

TheGimp
Mar 30, 2007, 09:30 PM
according to dictionary.com gaming/game is:
1. a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.

2. fun; sport of any kind; joke

3. anything resembling a game, as in requiring skill, endurance, or adherence to rules: the game of diplomacy.

4. any object of pursuit, attack, abuse, etc.: The new boy at school seemed to be fair game for practical jokers.

There are about 26 or so different definitions of game. I think that means something because so many people seem to believe that a game is one specific thing, and totally fluffing off other peoples definitions of game.

So if Nintendo were to package a disc containing an image of a person who submits to being 'happy slapped' and claimed that he/she was 'fair game', then Nintendo would be satisfying its obligation to Wii owners? Likewise if Nintendo made a 'game' that just told you jokes and was in no way interactive, would they be obliged to warn that the software title was no game as it is commonly regarded? What if it was packaged to 'resemble a game'?

If I tell a joke, then I am playing a game?

Seriously though, get a 360 for now.That's just my intuition tailored to give useful advice. I myself had a 360 (camped out at launch), eventually got bored with it and sold it (March '06, four months later), then went without gaming at all for several months except for handheld games. Then bought a Wii a few months ago and now am lazily wondering about the grass on the other side again. The 360 was an absolute blast for most of the time i owned it. Even Xbox live arcade with Hexic and Geometry wars was toxically fun and if you haven't played Project Gotham Racing online, Perfect Dark Zero *co-op campaign* with a friend locally or remotely, or Condemned (all launch games) then IMO you are in for a real treat. Then get a Wii sometime in the summer when the biggest titles hit and you'll have those to savor and the best Wii launch titles (Excite Truck and Zelda TP) to boot.

zap2
Mar 30, 2007, 10:20 PM
Seriously though, get a 360 for now.That's just my intuition tailored to give useful advice. I myself had a 360 (camped out at launch), eventually got bored with it and sold it (March '06, four months later), then went without gaming at all for several months except for handheld games. Then bought a Wii a few months ago and now am lazily wondering about the grass on the other side again. The 360 was an absolute blast for most of the time i owned it. Even Xbox live arcade with Hexic and Geometry wars was toxically fun and if you haven't played Project Gotham Racing online, Perfect Dark Zero *co-op campaign* with a friend locally or remotely, or Condemned (all launch games) then IMO you are in for a real treat. Then get a Wii sometime in the summer when the biggest titles hit and you'll have those to savor and the best Wii launch titles (Excite Truck and Zelda TP) to boot.


For what its worth I have to say I love Madden '07 and The Godfather on the Wii, Madden is fun for me for the first time ever, and there isn't anything more fun that beating people with a basebal bat in The Godfather :p

sb58
Mar 30, 2007, 10:32 PM
Its a tough choice. They're both completely different consoles, not really meant for the same demographic. I love Halo, Gears of War, etc. on 360 but i love WiiSports, Madden07, etc. on the Wii.

why choose? get both :D

tominated
Mar 30, 2007, 10:51 PM
Its a tough choice. They're both completely different consoles, not really meant for the same demographic. I love Halo, Gears of War, etc. on 360 but i love WiiSports, Madden07, etc. on the Wii.

why choose? get both :D

I would do that, but I don't have the money. BTW: I have a ds and psp. the psp is better for things like racing and shooters, but the ds is better for platformers. I like them both, but I like the ds more.

sb58
Mar 30, 2007, 10:52 PM
I would do that, but I don't have the money. BTW: I have a ds and psp. the psp is better for things like racing and shooters, but the ds is better for platformers. I like them both, but I like the ds more.
ah didn't think of that, sorry :P