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crazycat
Mar 30, 2007, 05:19 PM
You can never, ever, ever ever ever win in argument vs your girlfriend. Its a fact, there is no possible way, i have tried for years and i can there is no possible way to win. It does not matter what the subject is about, you will never win.

For example, if you are blind and your girlfriend thought you looked at the hot girl sitting on the other side of the restaurant then you looked, its a fact.

Here how it went:

GF = Girlfriend, Me = Me.

*watching a tv show kinda like american idol when a cute girl started to sing*
GF - Do you think she is cute?
Me - Do you really want me to tell you if she is cute?
GF - Yes!
Me - Yes, i think she is cute.

*10 mins of explaining why she is not cute*

Me - Okay she is not cute.

*2 hours later we are watching desperate house wives*

GF - Who do you think is the cutest one?
Me - Gabe (iva longoria)

*20 mins of explaining how i dont know what cute is and why Iva is not cute*

*10 mins ago*

GF- Do you think she is cute?
*a not so attractive female person she is talking about*
Me- Not really
*5 mins of talking explaning to me why she is cute*
Me - Your right, she is cute! what was i thinking before.

A pattern emerges here, cute girls are not cute and the not cute ones are, and most importantly she is always right, you as a male can never win.

All that being said, i love here to death and cant see myself without her :)

This is one way i am wrong and she is right in many many many other ways that i wont talk about now. maybe next time. Feel free to share your experience.

TheDance511
Mar 30, 2007, 05:24 PM
well there is 1 way.....u gotta let em KNO

Queso
Mar 30, 2007, 05:28 PM
Next time she tries that nonsense, distract her with something unexpectedly deep and philosophical like "Do you think we reincarnate after death or just cease to exist?". Have one of these questions ready every time she starts and she'll soon think that the differences between her and your definitions of cute really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Elixer
Mar 30, 2007, 05:33 PM
Just get used to the fact they always think they are right. Even when you confront them with fact you are always going to be wrong. :D

miloblithe
Mar 30, 2007, 05:36 PM
You could try complementing her more often, helping her work through her own insecurities. Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games.

They're not all like that. This is far from universal for all women.

crazycat
Mar 30, 2007, 05:41 PM
Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games.

Sorry to have to tell you, :)

Thomas Veil
Mar 30, 2007, 06:26 PM
milo pegged it: that's insecurity talking. And I've never understood that in women. And I think most of us guys like women who are confident and secure in themselves, not ones who are always neurotically trying to assess other people's beauty standards and, by inference, whether they measure up.

someguy
Mar 30, 2007, 06:34 PM
I'd ditch her and find someone you can have a relationship with and be able to enjoy the freedom to say what you feel around her.

I was in a relationship for a couple years once where what you described happened on a far-too-regular basis. In my current relationship, I am free to comment on celebrities, girls I see on TV, or even her friends. She trusts me and I trust her, so why should we pretend that just because we are with each other we are somehow suddenly unable to recognize other people's physical beauty?

FrankBlack
Mar 30, 2007, 06:42 PM
Is this why so many of my married friends keep telling me how smart I am for remaining single?

furious
Mar 30, 2007, 06:47 PM
Sounds like she has cheated on you. Sorry to say but the same thing happened to me. This girl was great then over time what you described started to happen. Found out months later that she had cheated on me.

someguy
Mar 30, 2007, 06:50 PM
Sounds like she has cheated on you. Sorry to say but the same thing happened to me. This girl was great then over time what you described started to happen. Found out months later that she had cheated on me.
Wouldn't surprise me. My ex cheated on me.

Relationships with an overly jealous partner almost never last, and if they do, you'll wish they hadn't.

miloblithe
Mar 30, 2007, 07:12 PM
Is this why so many of my married friends keep telling me how smart I am for remaining single?

Nope. Women are not harpies. They are just people. Treat them like people, and you'll get a whole lot farther.

Macky-Mac
Mar 30, 2007, 07:15 PM
GF - Do you think she is cute?
Me - Oh gee! I don't know. What do you think Honey?"



maybe try it that way

jsw
Mar 30, 2007, 07:32 PM
So, anyway, is your girlfriend cute?

Abstract
Mar 30, 2007, 07:50 PM
Here's how my convo with her would have gone:


GF: Do you think she's cute?
Me: Yes, definitely.

*10 minute explanation as to why she's NOT cute at all*

GF: Do you think this girl is cute?
Me: Yes, she's cute. She looks cute in the same way you're cute.


*no explanation as to why she isn't cute, because if the girl on TV isn't cute, then she probably isn't cute either, from what you said*

macmama
Mar 30, 2007, 09:46 PM
How about a little "Well I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. We're all entitled to our own opinions" and that's it?

My husband and I, for the record, will forever disagree on whether or not Julia Roberts is beautiful. I think she's gorgeous. He thinks she has a caricature of a normal human face. :rolleyes: We avoid arguing about it, FWIW.

mad jew
Mar 30, 2007, 09:47 PM
Date a mute with no arms and legs.

Sun Baked
Mar 30, 2007, 09:50 PM
Date a mute with no arms and legs.

Sucks if you would like to enjoy an occasional handjob, footjob, or just plain are a leg man.

mad jew
Mar 30, 2007, 09:52 PM
We're Mac users. We know how to be innovative.

Swarmlord
Mar 30, 2007, 09:53 PM
You could try complementing her more often, helping her work through her own insecurities. Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games.

They're not all like that. This is far from universal for all women.

Gotta agree. She's got some insecurity issues. Definitely not the norm for all women.

shecky
Mar 30, 2007, 09:58 PM
my answer is usually "she is almost as cute as you are"

to which my GF giggles and then says after a minute "yeah, she is really cute. its OK to admit it." To which i usually say "yeah, she is a fine piece of tenderoni, but i am not in love with her, i am in love with you."

then, we have us some sex.

Sun Baked
Mar 30, 2007, 09:59 PM
We're Mac users. We know how to be innovative.

Innovation like that may lead to shortcomings that even Viagra cannot solve after an argument -- as she bites down and does her best to win the argument.

devilot
Mar 30, 2007, 11:01 PM
...i usually say "yeah, she is a fine piece of tenderoni, but i am not in love with her, i am in love with you."I do think that that is the key.

I think I'm not the 100% stereotypical woman (even though I am insecure and whatever else), but with my ex, I think I might have been more into ogling hot women than he. :p And no, it wasn't to bash or hate on them, I was genuinely enjoying myself just seeing them and/or being attracted to them. Which isn't to say there weren't times when I felt insecure, that he might have been more interested in some other woman/-men, but he'd remind me the he liked me and was with me. And it was up to me to believe that. I do think that that's the important part.

SMM
Mar 30, 2007, 11:01 PM
I came to the realization long ago, men and women cannot understand each other at any level which involves subjective values. It is not such a difficult thing to accept, any can actually be appreciated. I love the way women see things, even if I cannot share it.

Mammoth
Mar 30, 2007, 11:25 PM
After multiple tests, we are forced to conclude: Girls are weird.

nickster9224
Mar 30, 2007, 11:45 PM
this battle has been fought since women existed, let them win

jadekitty24
Mar 31, 2007, 01:11 AM
No offense to your girlfirend, but that kind of stuff is really annoying. It can be worked on but I do not believe men should be coerced into always agreeing with their women on the "cuteness" factor, esspecially when it means squelching their own opinion, solely due to insecurities. No matter what, there will always be someone else out there who is *gasp* cute, hot, or beautiful, maybe even more so than the women (or man). My boyfiend has a sister who pulls this crap all the time but to the point of making a huge deal out of it, tearing her boyfriends head off (literally), and basically ruining the good times of everyone around her because she can't deal with the fact that she isn't the only girl around. Her BF (and there have been MANY due to this) can not even be in the same room with a pretty girl without a giant fight. It's gotten so bad no one wants to hang out with her. I try not to get upset and understand that it's coming from her low self-esteem but it is very difficult when I get told by her that the only reason I can appreciate a woman's beauty is to get brownie points with her brother (OMG how wrong can she be!). No, it's because women are beautiful, every single variety of them, and that should be admired, not despised just because they may be more beautiful than me.

Wow, that was a bit long.

You may have hit a nerve!

I will close by saying your (the OP) girl must be one hell of a woman for you to be ok with that. Reinforce the fact that you love her and not the girl on TV you think is cute, and let her know that you are entitled to your own opinion. I hate to say this, but by appeasing her when she does this you may be setting yourself up for (for lack of a better word) a wee bit of brainwashing. :)

Father Jack
Mar 31, 2007, 01:15 AM
After multiple tests, we are forced to conclude: Girls are weird.
Yes they certainly are :confused:
Although we can't live without them (or I can't)

FJ

angelneo
Mar 31, 2007, 02:27 AM
No offense to your girlfirend, but that kind of stuff is really annoying. It can be worked on but I do not believe men should be coerced into always agreeing with their women on the "cuteness" factor, esspecially when it means squelching their own opinion, solely due to insecurities. No matter what, there will always be someone else out there who is *gasp* cute, hot, or beautiful, maybe even more so than the women (or man). My boyfiend has a sister who pulls this crap all the time but to the point of making a huge deal out of it, tearing her boyfriends head off (literally), and basically ruining the good times of everyone around her because she can't deal with the fact that she isn't the only girl around. Her BF (and there have been MANY due to this) can not even be in the same room with a pretty girl without a giant fight. It's gotten so bad no one wants to hang out with her. I try not to get upset and understand that it's coming from her low self-esteem but it is very difficult when I get told by her that the only reason I can appreciate a woman's beauty is to get brownie points with her brother (OMG how wrong can she be!). No, it's because women are beautiful, every single variety of them, and that should be admired, not despised just because they may be more beautiful than me.

Wow, that was a bit long.

You may have hit a nerve!

I will close by saying your (the OP) girl must be one hell of a woman for you to be ok with that. Reinforce the fact that you love her and not the girl on TV you think is cute, and let her know that you are entitled to your own opinion. I hate to say this, but by appeasing her when she does this you may be setting yourself up for (for lack of a better word) a wee bit of brainwashing. :)
Sounds like your boyfriend is one lucky dude. :)

crazycat
Mar 31, 2007, 06:06 AM
Thee are no fights, we dont yell at each other, we dont get upset its just friendly talking. Its like when you have a PC friend and your explaining to the why a mac is better, there is no fighting i would call it friendly dialog.

The reason for this thread is to inform the men at MR that they are fighting a losing battle :)

I got some nice tips here and i will use them soon *devil laugh*.

p.s yes my GF is cute, very cute and sexy.

Blue Velvet
Mar 31, 2007, 06:11 AM
p.s yes my GF is cute, very cute and sexy.

I like the afterthought... she's reading what you type, isn't she? :D

Mammoth
Mar 31, 2007, 04:44 PM
I like the afterthought... she's reading what you type, isn't she? :D

*cowers in fear at the very idea*

MarkCollette
Apr 3, 2007, 12:15 PM
Hmm.

GF - Do you think she is cute?
Me - Why, would you like a three-way? I could call Bob from accounting, and make it a four-way?

Mr. Anderson
Apr 3, 2007, 12:23 PM
Don't let her rule your decisions and don't let her make up your own mind. Its ok to disagree - if you think she's cute, she's cute. If she thinks she's not that's her opinion. Respect it and move on.

And remember that attraction isn't just physical appearance - she could be the hottest thing out there, but if she doesn't have it all there mentally (and that means more than intelligence - its part smarts, humor, quirkiness, etc. all the things in her personality that make her who she is).

If she continues with this, move on.

Good luck,

D

cycocelica
Apr 3, 2007, 12:36 PM
Me and my girlfriend have a understanding that if the person is on TV we probably won't be hooking up or dating them, so it doesnt matter what you say.

If my girlfriend tried to describe to me what cute is I would tell her that:
a) she is not me, therefore I will decide what is cute and what is not
b) if she asks, then she should be prepared for the answer
and
c) if she doesnt think I know what cute is, then would that mean she isnt cute (this is of course assuming you believe your girlfriend is cute)