Best website creator (non iweb) [Archive]

Mitthrawnuruodo

Apr 3, 2007, 04:27 AM

I usually just use TextWrangler and Transmit for webdesign, but I have tried out RapidWeaver, and actually liked it. It gives you a bit more control than iWeb, and makes fairly nice and standards compliant code. Not a bad chioce, and fairly reasonable priced. :)

mudger

Apr 3, 2007, 04:39 AM

I use Rapidweaver & like it best, but there is also Sandvox. (http://www.karelia.com/) I'm sure there are lots more that I am unaware of too.

quick question

When i paste my adsense code into the "edit" page of my website and I go to preview, it doesnt show up? Also does not show up when I publish it.

maybe I'm doing something wrong??

Nicolasdec

Apr 3, 2007, 04:39 AM

I use Dreamweaver (http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver) and Nvu (http://www.nvu.com) Dreamweaver is great, but it cost a lot and Nvu is ok, but its free.:) :)

elppa

Apr 3, 2007, 05:28 AM

Human beings are quite good for making web sites.

tominated

Apr 3, 2007, 05:28 AM

textmate ftw! use it to hand code your site and it's css

netdog

Apr 3, 2007, 05:32 AM

I use Dreamweaver (http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver) and Nvu (http://www.nvu.com) Dreamweaver is great, but it cost a lot and Nvu is ok, but its free.:) :)

Is Dreamweaver easy and intuitive?

Nicolasdec

Apr 3, 2007, 05:50 AM

Is Dreamweaver easy and intuitive?

Dreamweaver is great, Its very professional and you can make a lot of things with it. But it cost a lot (thank god im a student so i get the student discount:) :) :) :) :) :) )

netdog

Apr 3, 2007, 05:53 AM

Dreamweaver is great, Its very professional and you can make a lot of things with it. But it cost a lot (thank god im a student so i get the student discount:) :) :) :) :) :) )

But is there a steep learning curve or can I just open it and start making pages and sites quickly?

Nicolasdec

Apr 3, 2007, 05:55 AM

But is there a steep learning curve or can I just open it and start making pages and sites quickly?

You can start makeing sites quickly, download the demo and try it out. see if you like it. do you know HTML?

chepistolas

Apr 4, 2007, 04:23 AM

Your brain :p
/arrogant reply.

Dreamweaver does have a learning curve but it is not that hard to navigate through. One of the problems I have with dreamweaver is that the instant preview does not always show your divs in the exact place as you coded them, sooner or later you tend to rely on :apple: + F12 to see your page in a browser instead. I would look at the recomendations that people have posted such as textmate or taco html, those have preview windows that let you see what you are coding in real time without losing so much $.

Cheers.

epochblue

Apr 4, 2007, 08:47 AM

textmate ftw! use it to hand code your site and it's css

I'm going to sound like a condescending SOB when I say this, but I can't help it....if you're truly serious about making websites, you should hand code them using a text editor (like TextMate, or TextWrangler, or Smultron, or SubEthaEdit, or BBEdit, or whatever). It's the only way you're going to have full control over your markup so it works and looks the best across all platforms.

Plus, once you get enough hand-codind under your belt, it's not any slower than WYSIWYG editing anyway.

petermarks

Apr 4, 2007, 06:54 PM

elppa

Apr 4, 2007, 08:00 PM

Hello:

I run a small business and am comfortable using dreamweaver, etc on an elementary level. I do not know html very well at all. Do you think our site, which has .aspx pages in it, would benefit from from someone manually editing the html code? Thanks!

Can we see your website to make a judgement please?

Thanks.

petermarks

Apr 5, 2007, 12:14 AM

Not at the moment unfortunately. All of our aspx pages are in a secure environment for the time being due to testing and patent application writing. In a month or so I should be able to show everything off. Thanks for offering your feedback though elppa, I'll let you know when we finally go live!

-Peter

radiantm3

Apr 5, 2007, 12:22 AM

Hello:

I run a small business and am comfortable using dreamweaver, etc on an elementary level. I do not know html very well at all. Do you think our site, which has .aspx pages in it, would benefit from from someone manually editing the html code? Thanks!

.aspx is asp.net. Doesn't that have to be compiled in visual studio to run? I don't think you can just edit those files in dreamweaver and call it a day.

dornoforpyros

Apr 5, 2007, 12:37 AM

I've been using TacoEdit (http://tacosw.com/main.php) (seems to have been renamed since I downloaded) on my macbook pro lately. I wasn't too keen on running dreamweaver through rosetta while doing my travel blog so I gave TacoEdit a try and I've been using it since.

It's light, it's fast, it's easy for hand coding.

Nicolasdec

Apr 5, 2007, 06:22 AM

Are there any good WYSIWYG (i think thats it) Open source website creators?

Mitthrawnuruodo

Apr 5, 2007, 06:30 AM

Are there any good WYSIWYG (i think thats it) Open source website creators?I think the above mentioned Nvu (http://www.nvu.com/about.php) is the one that will get the most recommendations...

lucidmedia

Sep 25, 2009, 02:30 PM

wow... 20+ comments and not one mention of Coda yet?

I have used Dreamweaver since it was introduced. As a HTML text editor / FTP / versioning system it works just fine.

Its wysiwyg editor -- like all wysiwyg editors -- creates code that is not so great...

I have switched over to Coda (http://www.panic.com/coda/) and am much happier. Elegant, simple and inexpensive compared to dreamweaver.

Espresso (http://macrabbit.com/espresso/) is made by the folks that make CSSEdit and is another popular tool among HTML/CSS professionals.

jeremy.king

Sep 25, 2009, 03:20 PM

wow... 20+ comments and not one mention of Coda yet?

The thread is 2.5 years old.

That said, Coda is nice as an IDE for web developers.

numbersyx

Sep 25, 2009, 03:23 PM

Another RapidWeaver user here although I find that its value comes from the additional plug ins like Blocks and Stacks...

miknos

Sep 25, 2009, 05:49 PM

Different apps suit different cases.

-iWeb: Waste of space.

-RapidWeaver (http://www.realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/): Good for newbies. I don't like the default templates and you have to pay for "add-ons". Probably the best option if you don't know how to do a website.

-Dreamweaver (http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/): Probably most professionals use it. It's the more complete but in my opinion is bloated. I don't like the interface and the generated code is not the best.

-Textmate (http://macromates.com/): Powerful text editor. I believe it's the best (but it's not my favorite).

-Espresso (http://macrabbit.com/espresso/): Seems like it has future but CODA is superior (by far) from now. I hope to see this app improve, specially if they incorporate CSSedit (they are the same creators).

-CODA (http://www.panic.com/coda/): My favorite. The interface is great and the app is very powerful (complete).

For CSS: CSSedit (http://macrabbit.com/cssedit/) is the best (by unanimous decision). I use CODA for CSS though.

DaReal_Dionysus

Sep 25, 2009, 07:32 PM

No matter what people say, Dreamweaver is really the standard. It's easy to learn and you can build nice websites quickly.

prodigee

Sep 26, 2009, 03:20 PM

Didnt want to make a new thread for no reason. Does anyone know where I can get some good tutorials for the dreamweaver program itself?

DaReal_Dionysus

Sep 27, 2009, 01:03 AM

Didnt want to make a new thread for no reason. Does anyone know where I can get some good tutorials for the dreamweaver program itself?

I have done several for the website www.dreamweaverclub.com

There are other tuts from people on there as well.

There is always Lynda.com as well

Kizmit

Mar 28, 2010, 12:20 PM

I have been asked to dismantle and mirror a multi scripted flash website at work as it is no longer being picked up by the search engines as it used to be.

The original site was very simple and i created it as a novice using dreamweaver (which i still am with websites) some 6 -7 yrs ago and it was top of the search lists ......

it was updated by a graduate placement who used multiple codes through out, following the update it completely dropped off the radar and now costs a fortune to keep up on the search lists.

Any thoughts would be gladly welcome on how best to proceed and how to get it back up on the search's. :confused:

The site : http://www.mcminncentre.co.uk/

...
I have been busy bringing up my 4yrold lad, happily working from home ... and now ... now I have to go back in the office :(

mrksem454

Apr 20, 2010, 05:37 AM

I've heard of rapidweaver, is that the only one?

Well, I am using Ewisoft Website Builder. It is the easiest, most powerful website builder software that I can use to create a website. And I would like to say about It, That it is perfect for beginners and professionals. It is so easy to use, all you have to do to start a website is edit text, insert images, and drag-and-drop. You get amazing results when your website is built and maintained by this Builder.

Renese-Williams

Apr 20, 2010, 10:44 AM

There is nothing better than the standard text editor and your mind. My personal favorite, Notepad++. ;)

ShaneRounce

Apr 21, 2010, 12:18 AM

raccoontail

Apr 23, 2010, 04:21 PM

espresso is nice but Coda is, hands down, my choice.
Hardly a minute goes by where I don't have Coda open.
Hell, even the FTP features are pretty extensive and I usually find myself choosing Coda for file uploads over other Apps.

Coda is wonderful for managing multiple sites by FTP. The FTP capabilities are unmatched. What it may lack in features it more than makes up for in outstanding interface design and stability.

NathanCH

Apr 24, 2010, 03:06 AM

Just got the new Espresso update (1.1). It's a beauty!

I'll never use Coda again.

phantasmagoria

Apr 24, 2010, 01:02 PM

Coda seems really nice, but it's just missing a few features that would convert me at the moment.

It often comes down to the kind of websites you're building anyway. I've had to work with a couple where there's hundreds of pages of regulatory documentation which require strict semantic markup, and I can't think of anything better than TextMate, and it's powerful implementation of snippets for the job. It's so easy to build your own custom bundles that make marking up huge amounts of content a breeze.

TextMate is definitely my preference, but I do use Dreamweaver too (have several clients who use Contribute to update their websites) and I'm keeping an eye on Coda and Espresso to see if I can switch at some stage, as they look really promising apps.

Evoken

Apr 25, 2010, 11:57 PM

Coda is hands down the best web development app for me. Version 2 is right around the corner. I imagine that is what Panic will be focusing on when they release Transmit 4 this week.

elppa

Apr 26, 2010, 05:16 AM

Coda is hands down the best web development app for me. Version 2 is right around the corner. I imagine that is what Panic will be focusing on when they release Transmit 4 this week.

Cool! Thanks for the tip.

Just seen:
T4:T-1 (http://panic.com/)

Hah!

H00513R

Apr 26, 2010, 09:57 AM

Dreamweaver IMO. Easy to use.

williemyers

Nov 14, 2011, 08:17 AM

Well, I am using Ewisoft Website Builder. It is the easiest, most powerful website builder software that I can use to create a website. And I would like to say about It, That it is perfect for beginners and professionals. It is so easy to use, all you have to do to start a website is edit text, insert images, and drag-and-drop. You get amazing results when your website is built and maintained by this Builder.According to EWISoft, it doesn't run on Mac
http://www.ewisoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1794#p4269

7031

Nov 15, 2011, 04:46 AM

Another vote for Coda here. It's not a WYSIWYG editor, but it's absolutely brilliant and I'd choose it over Dreamweaver any day.

Having said that, if you do want a WYSIWYG editor, Dreamweaver works quite nicely, but the price tag is a tad prohibitive.