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skunk
Apr 5, 2007, 06:58 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6526589.stm
Guantanamo conditions 'worsening'
Conditions for detainees at the US military jail at Guantanamo Bay are deteriorating, with the majority held in solitary confinement, a report says.
Amnesty International said the often harsh and inhumane conditions at the camp were "pushing people to the edge".

It called for the facility to be closed and for plans for "unfair" military commission trials to be abandoned.

Many of the 385 inmates have been held for five years or more, unable to mount a legal challenge to their detention.

"While the United States has an obligation to protect its citizens... that does not relieve the United States from its responsibilities to comply with human rights," the report said.

"Statements by the Bush administration that these men are 'enemy combatants,' 'terrorists' or 'very bad people' do not justify the complete lack of due process rights," the group said.

Amnesty reiterated its call for detainees at the prison camp in Cuba - many of whom are suspected Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters - to be released or charged and sent to trial.

'Already in despair'

The report, published on Thursday, said about 300 detainees are now being held at a new facility - known as Camp 5, Camp 6 and Camp Echo - comparable to "super-max" high security units in the US.

The group said the facility had "created even harsher and apparently more permanent conditions of extreme isolation and sensory deprivation".
It said the detainees were reportedly confined to windowless cells for 22 hours a day, only allowed to exercise at night and could go for days without seeing daylight.

The organisation's UK director, Kate Allen, described the process at Guantanamo as "a travesty of justice".

"With many prisoners already in despair at being held in indefinite detention... some are dangerously close to full-blown mental and physical breakdown.

"The US authorities should immediately stop pushing people to the edge with extreme isolation techniques and allow proper access for independent medical experts and human rights groups."

'Serving justice'

The provision that stripped detainees of their right to mount a legal challenge to their confinement was upheld by a US federal appeals court in Washington in February.

Pushing the anti-terror legislation through Congress last year, Mr Bush said he needed the new law to bring terror suspects to justice.

It allows for the indefinite detention of people as "enemy combatants".

The US has said it plans to use the military tribunal system to prosecute about 80 of 385 prisoners remaining at the camp.
The American Gulag goes from strength to strength.



solvs
Apr 6, 2007, 04:37 AM
It's still open for the same reason we're still in Iraq, the same reason the troop surge is going ahead, and the same reason Walter Reed turned into what it became. We'd love to do something about it, but what do we do? I'm guessing people were just as outraged when Nixon was President, but for some reason someone actually stopped him. Wonder if that would happen today. Kinda doubting it.

MACDRIVE
Apr 6, 2007, 09:07 AM
The thought of being imprisoned in a place without a court date or the luxury of having a numbered sentence is maddening. Those guys have no idea how long they're going to be there; they don't know if they'll be released tomorrow or spend the rest of their life there. I can see insanity setting in quickly.

Motley
Apr 6, 2007, 09:08 AM
The thought of being imprisoned in a place without a court date or the luxury of having a numbered sentence is maddening. Those guys have no idea how long they're going to be there; they don't know if they'll be released tomorrow or spend the rest of their life there. I can see insanity setting in quickly.

If they weren't anti-US fanatics before they went in, they probably are now.

princealfie
Apr 6, 2007, 10:07 AM
If they weren't anti-US fanatics before they went in, they probably are now.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if college kids became anti-US fanatics too at that rate.

Of course, perhaps this is the sequel to Prison Break? I can see something like that happening in like T and counting downward.