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kresh
Apr 5, 2007, 09:28 PM
Am I just late in noticing the nasty Intel logo at the Apple website that is used to denote Intel Mac only software?

All Apple needs to do is playing that stupid little chime?

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psychofreak
Apr 5, 2007, 09:32 PM
Mmm...I have an intel mac so booyah!

At least games are being made for OSX...

xUKHCx
Apr 5, 2007, 09:38 PM
It doesn't support the GMA950 so it narrows it down even further.

zap2
Apr 5, 2007, 09:46 PM
Meh, it doesn't bother me. However the Power logo is FAR cooler looking

Cult Follower
Apr 5, 2007, 09:54 PM
i guess this will keep happening.

applekid
Apr 5, 2007, 10:33 PM
Time to accept the reality that the PPC chip may not be good enough for the latest games. That's all.

iLoveMyMBP
Apr 5, 2007, 10:52 PM
Meh, it doesn't bother me. However the Power logo is FAR cooler looking

now that's slick :apple: :apple:

Markleshark
Apr 6, 2007, 02:38 AM
Time to accept the reality that the PPC chip may not be good enough for the latest games. That's all.

In the same way that 1 year old PC hardware isnt? Compared to 3/4 year old Apple hardware.

JackAxe
Apr 6, 2007, 05:51 AM
Time to accept the reality that the PPC chip may not be good enough for the latest games. That's all.

That's a rather foolish statement. Consider the fact that all 3 consoles are using PPCs and that a G5's only equivelent on the PC side, prior to the Conroe, was the Opteron.

It's called the developer making a financial choice not to invest in a PPC version and instead just focus on X86.

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mrgreen4242
Apr 6, 2007, 07:20 AM
Time to accept the reality that the PPC chip may not be good enough for the latest games. That's all.

The PPC chips were nice, for sure, but IBM was just unable to keep up with producing faster iterations fast enough, plus working to get the heat output (and as a result the power consumption) down. I think that was the thing that made Apple move - I don't think they cared about overall power, but wanted that power in a smaller, cooler, more efficient package so they could keep churning out pretty things.:rolleyes:

applekid
Apr 6, 2007, 09:20 AM
You're taking my comments the wrong way.

First off, we're talking about Mac Gaming, not consoles or PC gaming.

Second, for all intents and purposes, the PowerPC chip is obsolete on the Mac. You see it anywhere in the current hardware lineup? The last G5's are going to start looking old soon enough. It doesn't help this Myst game is being ported using Cider.

Yes, as far as Mac game development goes, Intel chips are probably going to be the main focus now. I'm not arguing the PPC architecture is better than x86 or vice versa. All I was saying is the last remaining Mac users with PowerPC's are probably soon seeing the end of the road for gaming on their machine. And performance-wise, you know some Intel chip down the line (or possibly even now) will out run whatever the fastest G5 in a Mac ever was. That's all I was going for.

Chone
Apr 6, 2007, 12:01 PM
I will only say this: The overall performance and efficiency value of a processor is not measured in its raw performance output but its performance per watt ratio.

In those terms, the G5 was an absolutely atrocious processor, fast yes but at what cost?

I'm glad Apple chose Intel's Core architecture, the G5 was really an abomination of a processor.

Oh and AppleKid, all Intel core processors are faster than the G5, maybe a core 1 duo is not faster than a G5 quad in terms of raw performance but it would kick its ass if it was using as much power as the G5. Performance per watt is what really matters and what really shows architecture efficiency.

zap2
Apr 6, 2007, 12:10 PM
You're taking my comments the wrong way.

First off, we're talking about Mac Gaming, not consoles or PC gaming.

Second, for all intents and purposes, the PowerPC chip is obsolete on the Mac. You see it anywhere in the current hardware lineup? The last G5's are going to start looking old soon enough. It doesn't help this Myst game is being ported using Cider.

Yes, as far as Mac game development goes, Intel chips are probably going to be the main focus now. I'm not arguing the PPC architecture is better than x86 or vice versa. All I was saying is the last remaining Mac users with PowerPC's are probably soon seeing the end of the road for gaming on their machine. And performance-wise, you know some Intel chip down the line (or possibly even now) will out run whatever the fastest G5 in a Mac ever was. That's all I was going for.

One day they will be obsolete, but a Quad PowerMac G5 still out does every Mac apple sells to day(minus the Mac Pro), and will for sometime, when ever MacBook, MBP, iMac and Mac Mini get Quad based chips, which won't be for a while.