Grindhouse made with Shake and Final Cut Pro

[connorhays]

It seems that Shake was used for quite a bit of stuff on Grindhouse and Final Cut Pro was used for editing on set. The cool thing is that the machine gun leg in the movie was made possible by Shake. Check out the full article (http://www.ballergoods.com/home/2007/4/5/the-making-of-grindhouse.html) on all the software used in making the movie.

[failsafe1]

Nice article I am going to see this film tomorrow. Shame the filmmakers are giving up on Shake for a PC based system.

[WatchinTV]

Niice find. Ya, I'm hopefully going tomorrow to see it too.

[zap2]

Honestly that movie looks terrible..when I first saw the ad, I thought it was a joke. No lie

[JNB]

Honestly that movie looks terrible..when I first saw the ad, I thought it was a joke. No lie

It's an homage and a spoof simultaneously of those god-awful grindhouse movies of the 70's. I'm surprised they could get it done with a straight face. So, in a way, it is a joke, but we're all in on it.

Looks like Snake Plisskin's met his match! :D

[bigbossbmb]

Shame the filmmakers are giving up on Shake for a PC based system.

Well since Shake was EOL'd last summer this isn't a big surprise. Once 'Phenomenon' comes out, some post-houses that defect will come back. ;)

I want to see Grindhouse tomorrow, but I still need to see 300... maybe i'll go triple feature this weekend. :D

[TheAnswer]

I want to see Grindhouse tomorrow, but I still need to see 300... maybe i'll go triple feature this weekend. :D

I have the same idea, but with "The Lookout" and "Grindhouse."

[poppe]

I wouldn't mind seeing grindhouse if i didn't have to pay. I get it's "an homage and a spoof simultaneously" but still for $9 per person how can I justify seeing it... There aren't a lot of amazing movies out right now, but still I could justify $18 (me and he mrs.) on a bunch of other movies.

I wait for rental (maybe)

[JNB]

l for $9 per person how can I justify seeing it... There aren't a lot of amazing movies out right now(maybe)

Could't agree more. I despise the whole movie-going "experience". Used to be I'd go see a major release, or something that "needed" the big screen. Not anymore, it's just a mechanism to suck money.

Grindhouse should be seen at a drive in with crappy speakers and nachos and stale popcorn and hot dogs. In your pajamas. For two bucks a carload.

[FF_productions]

Too bad Apple stopped supporting Shake.

[bigbossbmb]

why too bad? they are completely revamping the code to make an amazing replacement for it... it's not like they are giving up on selling a top notch compositing app. If I remember correctly, Phenomenon is supposed to come out first half of next year (which screams NAB to me). It really isn't that far off.

[dcr]

and After Effects and Premiere Pro and Flame and XSI and Combustion and Avid XPress and Digital Fusion and Maya and 3DS Max and Boujou and Brazil and...

;-)

Basically any VFX-heavy movie these days is farmed out to many places and just about every imaginable tool is used on them

[WatchinTV]

Well, early reviews for Grindhouse seem positive. %86 on Rotten Tomatoes. Hopefully its good.

[hardhatmac]

Honestly that movie looks terrible..when I first saw the ad, I thought it was a joke. No lie

I totally agree...I hate tarantino...

[TheAnswer]

Well, early reviews for Grindhouse seem positive. %86 on Rotten Tomatoes. Hopefully its good.

And currently a 78 over at Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/film/).

[heelie]

That "Making of Grindhouse" article really glossed over the filmmaking process.

First it mentions they shot on a "35mm camcorder" over HD. There is no such thing as a 35mm camcorder. It should have said 35mm motion picture film camera over HD.

Yes 35mm film is still better than HD. And for a high profile film like this film is easier for a number of reasons.

The other thing is that the article seems to suggest that they used Final Cut and After Effects to complete the post work on the set. That is completely wrong. What they used Final Cut and After Effects for was probably for reference shots and quick compositing to see if they shot the elements appropriately. Final Cut can be used to record the video tap footage coming off a film camera.

That method would then save money in reshoots or extra time in post to fix something that may not look as good if it were done right in the first place. Nevertheless, it is a good idea to do that on complicated films with a lot of xf shots.

Best

Tim

[KillTheBunny]

Interesting that for the real edit they still cut on an Avid systems. Anyway, as has been pointed out most features use a ton of different software. The linked article is quite poorly written.

[poppe]

Do you think we'll get the crappy ten minute film festival's on the special features?

[TheAnswer]

Do you think we'll get the crappy ten minute film festival's on the special features?

Nah...they'll probably release it only as part of a $200 box set with all the movies QT programmed at the New Beverly Cinema's Grindhouse revival program (http://www.newbevcinema.com/calendar.cfm).

[LethalWolfe]

Yes 35mm film is still better than HD. And for a high profile film like this film is easier for a number of reasons.


FWIW, Robert Rodriguez shot HD and Quentin Tarantino shot film.


Nah...they'll probably release it only as part of a $200 box set with all the movies QT programmed at the New Beverly Cinema's Grindhouse revival program (http://www.newbevcinema.com/calendar.cfm).
I dig the New Beverly even though I haven't been there in a while. I mean, who can't like double features for $7?


Lethal

[poppe]

FWIW, Robert Rodriguez shot HD and Quentin Tarantino shot film.



I dig the New Beverly even though I haven't been there in a while. I mean, who can't like double features for $7?


Lethal

Is the double feature or the theater restricted to grindhouse movies?

[LethalWolfe]

Is the double feature or the theater restricted to grindhouse movies?

Nope. All showings are double features (usually w/some sort of theme like same genre, director or lead actor) and they show everything from campy cult classics, to 40's film noir, to blockbusters from the 80's. Typically the runs only last for 2-3 days though before the print is shipped off to another revival theater.


Lethal

[poppe]

Nope. All showings are double features (usually w/some sort of theme like same genre, director or lead actor) and they show everything from campy cult classics, to 40's film noir, to blockbusters from the 80's. Typically the runs only last for 2-3 days though before the print is shipped off to another revival theater.


Lethal

Oh crap no way. Thats awesome! I didn't even realize I had drove by it before when I was on my way to a shoot. How exciting. Are there any other theaters closer to north Hollywood that is like this?

[heelie]

FWIW, Robert Rodriguez shot HD and Quentin Tarantino shot film.

Lethal

Yeah, I just read on another forum that an Arri 35mm was used for the film portions and a Panavision Genisis was used for the HD portions.

That article really had things wrong.

[Keebler]

Could't agree more. I despise the whole movie-going "experience". Used to be I'd go see a major release, or something that "needed" the big screen. Not anymore, it's just a mechanism to suck money.

Grindhouse should be seen at a drive in with crappy speakers and nachos and stale popcorn and hot dogs. In your pajamas. For two bucks a carload.

I couldn't disagree more. sure, the prices may be a tad more expensive than the inflation rate, but c'mon...when you were only paying $5 of $7/ movie...you didn't think it was a mechanism then? newsflash: It's ALWAYS been a mechanism and ALWAYS will be. If you dload through Itunes or rent at the local video store...guess what.....bingo - still a mechanism. :) Just a lower cost one.

i can't wait to see grindhouse. sure, it looks hokey and terribly over the top, but that's what those movies used to be like and Hollywood hasn't made that type in a long time. So, by releasing a 'homage/spoof', they are showing it to new generations.

movies are about entertainment...nothing else. unfortunately, some ppl (not saying you here), take them way too seriously...they think flicks need to have a message or tell a deep compelling story.

movies are supposed to take you away from the normal grind of life for a few hours...forget about everything else and be entertained.

and i think that's exactly what grindhouse will do. it may not be the flick of choice for everyone, but i bet it's great.

cheers,
keebler

[Antares]

Well, I just saw it today and thought it was brilliant. Clever, campy, entertaining. :) They made it like you were actually watching grindhouse films in the 70's...right down to the previews and theater notices.

So, is Phenomenon more than a rumor and a real successor to Shake?

[zblaxberg]

thats awesome that they used shake and fcp but grindhouse looked like crap

[SSpiro]

Interesting thread.

[LethalWolfe]

Oh crap no way. Thats awesome! I didn't even realize I had drove by it before when I was on my way to a shoot. How exciting. Are there any other theaters closer to north Hollywood that is like this?

The Egyptian plays some older movies, but no regular double features and I think the prices are more in line w/"normal" ticket prices. AFAIK there is no other theater like the New Bev in LA. But I'm not a huge revival theater guy so there very well could be.


Lethal

[TheAnswer]

Oh crap no way. Thats awesome! I didn't even realize I had drove by it before when I was on my way to a shoot. How exciting. Are there any other theaters closer to north Hollywood that is like this?

It's not strictly revival, but the new Billy Wilder Theater (http://www.cinema.ucla.edu/calendar/calendar.aspx) at the Hammer Museum puts on programs in coordination with the UCLA Film & TV Archive. Right now they are doing a Godard retrospective.

Here is the link to the American Cinematheque (http://www.americancinematheque.com/), which programs at the Egyptian and at the Aero in Santa Monica.

[GoGoSamGo]

So, is Phenomenon more than a rumor and a real successor to Shake?

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=210895

That will give you all the info you need

[poppe]

It's not strictly revival, but the new Billy Wilder Theater (http://www.cinema.ucla.edu/calendar/calendar.aspx) at the Hammer Museum puts on programs in coordination with the UCLA Film & TV Archive. Right now they are doing a Godard retrospective.

Here is the link to the American Cinematheque (http://www.americancinematheque.com/), which programs at the Egyptian and at the Aero in Santa Monica.

Ok sweet. Thanks a lot!. New to California so am not to sure about all the ins and out of L.A/Hollywood yet.

[failsafe1]

I tried to see Grindhouse over the weekend but the theater I was in was having trouble showing the movie. As a result the movie was delayed for hours and I got my money back. I wondered at the time was the apparent film stoppage was a part of the experience but after a while I thought it must be real damage and stoppage since the theater had trouble with both shows. I read today that part of the effect of the film was drop outs and missing reels. So now I think the theater simply did not realize the "damage" and stoppage was part of the film so they stopped the movie and tried to fix faux damage? Since it happened twice that adds weight to the part of the movie experience. Can anyone who has seen the film tell me some about the hospital scene? I am wondering if just after the doc injects his wife and walks out to the blood trail on the floor if the screen goes white for a while and then comes back to the woman in a car?

[rjfiske]

I tried to see Grindhouse over the weekend... part of the effect of the film was drop outs and missing reels. So now I think the theater simply did not realize the "damage" and stoppage was part of the film so they stopped the movie and tried to fix faux damage?... Can anyone who has seen the film tell me some about the hospital scene?

I saw it over the weekend. The "missing reel" part, as far as I remember, does NOT come during the hospital scene. Instead it comes later (when and how, I will not reveal as it was very clever/funny & I don't want to spoil it). Needless to say, you'll know it when it happens. What's funny is that there was a small 8.5x11 flyer next to the ticket window warning people that the "dirt, dust, scratches & problems with audio" were part of the movie and there was nothing that management could do to "fix" the movie. That made me smile.

As far as the movie itself (movies themselves?), I can't remember the last time I had that much fun. Certainly the movie isn't for everyone... particularly those who hate QT and RR "just because", but it is very clever. Campy? yes. Tacky? yes. A mechanism for making money? DUH, it's a friggin movie. Bad acting? Horrible.

But clever and funny. I'm seeing it again this weekend. Good thing too for those guys... the initial box office receipts have been abysmal. $9 is a bargain as far as I'm concerned... it's two movies for the price of one.

[failsafe1]

Thanks so perhaps the trouble my theater was having was legit trouble. I did hear about people in the audience complaining about the dust and stuff.