Well, I'm a Junior [Archive]

ibookin'

Jun 14, 2003, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
even with ~30 hours of AP credit? i am taking like 2 first year classes next semester, and it isn't becaus i am going to take my first year classes later. i am thinking a summer term or two and i am set

I'm not familiar with the way A.P. credit works... is it a 1:1 ratio for hours earned?

Anyway, most sciences majors at my school require over 190 units to graduate. If you already have 30 and will have maybe 40 when you enter, you still have 150 units to go. If you're lucky you can get 50 or so units a year, making that 3 years of time required. Pretty nice.

I never got the chance to take A.P. classes (entered college at 13), even though I probably could've.

ibookin'

Jun 14, 2003, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by MacAztec
You are 16 years old? Jesus dude. What are you going to do when you want to go have fun at college and party. You cant even drive with others in the car yet...can you?

Thats cool that you are going through college though, but take your time and have fun.

I'm 15. I can't even drive yet. Haven't even started learning.

The disadvantage to the way I'm doing it is that I'm missing out on the partying in H.S. and the partying in college.

Oh well... at least I can get a Ph.D when I'm 20... :D

shadowfax

Jun 14, 2003, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by ibookin'
I'm not familiar with the way A.P. credit works... is it a 1:1 ratio for hours earned? nah, AP is variable depending on your score and your class. AP calculus BC will get you 6 hours, bam. AB only gets you 3. the history classes are mostly 3 hours apiece, as are the english ones. Physics C, i think, gets you a good 6 hours too, if you take both E&M and Mechanics.

ibookin'

Jun 14, 2003, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
nah, AP is variable depending on your score and your class. AP calculus BC will get you 6 hours, bam. AB only gets you 3. the history classes are mostly 3 hours apiece, as are the english ones. Physics C, i think, gets you a good 6 hours too, if you take both E&M and Mechanics.

I meant how the hours transfer over to college units.

shadowfax

Jun 14, 2003, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by ibookin'
I meant how the hours transfer over to college units. then you've got it ass backwards. most colleges use hours as a measure. as in, hours a week a class meets. each AP class is 1 credit in high school. so, calc BC is 6 hours of college credit with 1 HS credit, and so on. i don't know many colleges that use units, and certainly my parents don't use that word talking about them.

ibookin'

Jun 14, 2003, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
then you've got it ass backwards. most colleges use hours as a measure. as in, hours a week a class meets. each AP class is 1 credit in high school. so, calc BC is 6 hours of college credit with 1 HS credit, and so on. i don't know many colleges that use units, and certainly my parents don't use that word talking about them.

I see now. I know that most colleges use hours as a measure, but since I go to a screwy school (still on the quarter system... oh yeah! :D) we use "units" as a measure. By units I meant hours. Just used to using the different terminology, I suppose.

RandomDeadHead

Jun 14, 2003, 05:55 AM

Hey I beat all of you!

I got four years, 18 years ago!

Oh my god, that makes me...........:(

Looks like now is a good time for a mid-life crisis. Well maybe tomorrow.:p

BTW, congratulations! Keep it up. School is well worth the effort, at least I think it was. I don't remember too much of my college experience.:D

Kwyjibo

Jun 14, 2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
then you've got it ass backwards. most colleges use hours as a measure. as in, hours a week a class meets. each AP class is 1 credit in high school. so, calc BC is 6 hours of college credit with 1 HS credit, and so on. i don't know many colleges that use units, and certainly my parents don't use that word talking about them.

i know with calc BC it depends on your score too. At my college you can get the first semester of calc with a 2 or a 3 and if you get a 4 or 5 you can get 2 semesters.

jelloshotsrule

Jun 14, 2003, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by MacAztec
You are 16 years old? Jesus dude. What are you going to do when you want to go have fun at college and party. You cant even drive with others in the car yet...can you?

Thats cool that you are going through college though, but take your time and have fun.

best part is... when you're struggling for your keg/stripper money, the genius/nerd will not only have a job (thus providing for both of those things and more), but he may even use that nerdness for something like finding a more potent type of alcohol that gets you drunk even faster yet doesn't leave you with a hangover...

believe it or not, not everyone cares about "partying". your sense of fun and someone else's can (and do) differ.

patrick0brien

Jun 14, 2003, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
...with some luck i will graduate in 3 years...

-Shadowfax

Take your time big guy, life is waiting for you, and will be there after you get your degree. In the mean time savor these years, don't be in such a rush.

e-coli

Jun 14, 2003, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by ibookin'
As of 1:15PM PST today I have completed my sophomore year of college and am now a Junior.

My advice to you; start drinking heavily. ;)

jefhatfield

Jun 14, 2003, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by ibookin'
As of 1:15PM PST today I have completed my sophomore year of college and am now a Junior.

I feel very good about it, and I did really well on the final I had today.

Who else completed or is near completion of yet another year of school.

congrats...wow, you are really young and may have your BA or BS before you can vote...heck, you can go to law school, become a lawyer and work drunk driving cases and still not be old enough to drink ;)

at the junior college i prerennially go to like about half the school's population of older adults, in the last decade they have been taking 12 and 13 year olds who are gifted and letting them take classes and getting associate's degrees in some cases

i think if they can handle the workload, then let them take college courses and get college degrees

when i entered college at 16, it was because i was pretty smart in high school so i split the last two years of high school with college...in a way i missed out on high school life because of it

in my freshman and sophomore years of high school, i got to play sports, but in my last two years of high school, i was in junior college also so i didn't get to play sports...i was a junior varsity athlete in high school but because i was not there for junior and senior years in sports, i never got to play varsity...i missed out

the trick to college is to learn first, then get a degree, and then be young (if possible since it's best and easiest to get schooling out of the way before marriage and children)... but i would say in that order...a lot of the younger students i meet feel compelled to be the youngest to enter college, get a degree, and move on with life...but it's not a race and when junior has his degree or two, chances are he still has to live under the same roof as mom and dad;)

evil

Jun 14, 2003, 12:41 PM

im practically 23 and will be in my last year of university.
i have been in no rush whatsoever to finish school. i have already attended 3 different schools and have taken off for a year.
point being-whats the rush?
after school comes the job that will be the rest of your life. yeah yeah..you can switch careers and all that but why try and rush through the years that are supposed to be the best part?
in the end i feel a bit sorry for the ones who, like the thread starter, who have run right through the years that are not only for learning but also gaining various life experiences.

jefhatfield

Jun 14, 2003, 12:55 PM

and when one finishes high school or college and enters the work world, it sometimes seems like an endless, boring, tedious void out there of making rent or mortgage and paying off the car and getting groceries

even the rich are not immune to the drudgery of adult life at times

the best years in life are the school years

wdlove

Jun 14, 2003, 02:00 PM

I think that each stage in life has it's advantage and disadvantages. It's important to live each day to the fullest. The future will take care of itself!

janey

Jun 14, 2003, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by e-coli
My advice to you; start drinking heavily. ;)
he doesn't want to drink. he can't drink.
trust me, if he drank, i'd make him very drunk on new years
anyway josh congrats (grrr you didn't tell me :\)
currently i'm baking chocolate brownies full of laxatives for my bitchy, mean, rude, atheist-hating, racist, and lame english teacher. yay thank god i never have to see her ever again...

shadowfax

Jun 14, 2003, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
i know with calc BC it depends on your score too. At my college you can get the first semester of calc with a 2 or a 3 and if you get a 4 or 5 you can get 2 semesters. yeah, that's because they score you separately for AB and the additional BC material if you do poorly overall, usually you suck it with 2nd semester material, and they give you credit for the first, just like calculus AB, gaining you 3 hours instead of 6. :)

MacFan25

Jun 14, 2003, 03:22 PM

congrats, ibookin'! wow...15 years old and a junior in college! good to know that the mac community is filled with intelligent people! :D

jelloshotsrule

Jun 14, 2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by MacFan25
congrats, ibookin'! wow...15 years old and a junior in college! good to know that the mac community is filled with intelligent people! :D

one person doesn't make it "filled". ;)

shadowfax

Jun 14, 2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
one person doesn't make it "filled". ;) yeah, i must admit, i think there are many more dip****s around here that like to pull their underwear out of their pants than there are people with insane IQs and pristine grades. really.

MacFan25

Jun 14, 2003, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
one person doesn't make it "filled". ;)
but I know that there are many other intelligent mac users. ;)

wdlove

Jun 14, 2003, 08:41 PM

I think that we can say that everyone on this forum is intelligent. It's that ibookin' among others on the forum are highly intelligent! I also would hate to see him start drinking.

zed

Jun 14, 2003, 09:07 PM

ahhh,.... the college days, i kinda miss em , kinda dont.... but while it will be nice to have a degree at a very early age and all.... dont let your youth pass you by.

im 23, so im right on the verge.... but i had a exceedingly good time in college (LSU) and have now been out for a year.

ahh those were the days... my point? who knows.....

Kwyjibo

Jun 14, 2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
yeah, i must admit, i think there are many more dip****s around here that like to pull their underwear out of their pants than there are people with insane IQs and pristine grades. really.

can't someone be both... Its hilarious to see someone get a wedgie but at the same time I just re-read gatsby for fun.

Doctor Q

Jun 14, 2003, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
currently i'm baking chocolate brownies full of laxatives for my bitchy, mean, rude, atheist-hating, racist, and lame english teacher.I hope they work as well on your lousy english teacher as they did on the school bully who stole my friend's lunch until one fateful day...

janey

Jun 15, 2003, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
yeah, i must admit, i think there are many more dip****s around here that like to pull their underwear out of their pants than there are people with insane IQs and pristine grades. really.
insane iq's and pristine grades lol :p
i don't disagree with the insane IQ, there are plenty of mac users with that, but ibookin' certainly did not have pristine grades in junior high, nor did he get straight a's in his classes in college (well once in a while you'd get straight a's) :p :p :) :D

tpjunkie

Jun 15, 2003, 01:06 AM

Wow ibookin', i can't imagine what it'd be like if i had entered college at 13...I know i certainly wasn't mature enough to be living away at school in a dorm or anything...im 19, and about to start my sophomore year of college. If i had done the amount of drinking i did my freshman year as when i was 13, -well, for one, i'd probably be dead of alcohol poisoning :p - but there's no way i would have gotten any work done, (not that 3.2 is such a great GPA if im considering med school)...im curious, do you live at school or at home...go to a private school or a state school?

arn

Jun 15, 2003, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by ibookin'
I'm 15. I can't even drive yet. Haven't even started learning.

The disadvantage to the way I'm doing it is that I'm missing out on the partying in H.S. and the partying in college.

Oh well... at least I can get a Ph.D when I'm 20... :D

But you lose your social life...

not worth it. I've known a number of "grade-skippers" - they are not very socially graceful.

I strongly feel this - school/college is not about book-learning... a huge part is social development.

arn

Royal Pineapple

Jun 15, 2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by arn
But you lose your social life...

not worth it. I've known a number of "grade-skippers" - they are not very socially graceful.

I strongly feel this - school/college is not about book-learning... a huge part is social development.

arn
and he's gonna be a doctor so he KNOWS about school ;):D

shadowfax

Jun 15, 2003, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
can't someone be both... Its hilarious to see someone get a wedgie but at the same time I just re-read gatsby for fun. what the heck does re-reading a schoolbook like the great gatsby have to do with pristine grades and insanely high IQs? that book was hardly worth reading twice! :p

Kwyjibo

Jun 15, 2003, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
what the heck does re-reading a schoolbook like the great gatsby have to do with pristine grades and insanely high IQs? that book was hardly worth reading twice! :p

Iq is a test to measure intelligence, sometimes intelligent people enjoy reading society's defined classics, i guess that part went past you. My grades are excellent i'm graduated in the top3% of my high school and the B's are hard to spot on my transcript, the few and far between. So I guess i'm saying that your correlelation is faulty. People can be smart and be jerks or enjoy dumb things, lifes about appreciation not elitism.

shadowfax

Jun 15, 2003, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
Iq is a test to measure intelligence, sometimes intelligent people enjoy reading society's defined classics, i guess that part went past you. oh ho, don't go insulting me. society's defined classics my arse. just about everyone is fed that book in school. that doesn't make it a good book. i'm not even going there, i was just saying that that's no example of exemplary IQs. so emphasize that sometimes, man, and get off my case. the internet is the dumbest place in the world to start a fight.

ibookin'

Jun 15, 2003, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by übergeek
but ibookin' certainly did not have pristine grades in junior high

Haha. You're certainly right there, my grades in junior high were downright terrible. I pretty much spaced out in class (sat behind a filing cabinet in math class, actually pretty fun when you have the entire period to do the days homework [which you, of course, finish in 10-15 min.], and a PowerBook 1400c with Eric's Solitare and OS 8 :D).

Anyway, I believe that the grades that a person gets and their level of intelligence are not necessarily on a even scale. In fact, when I was in junior high, most of the kids who were getting bad grades in the magnet program were actually extremely smart people; the classes were simply geared towards busy work, which some students are very good at. In my district, there are two kinds of magnet programs. One is the "High Ability/Gifted" magnet, i.e. the students who have above-average intelligence and are good at schoolwork, and the other is the "Highly Gifted" magnet, which is for students who are very intelligent (you need a IQ of 145 or over to enter).

The magnet I attended in junior high was the "High Ability" type, and was not a pleasant experience for me. I was only there for one year (7th grade) before going to college.

Arn: You make a good point about the kind of jump I am making. However, the particular program I am in has over 120 students of our age group all on the same campus, with our own special lounge in one of the buildings.

By the way, I am quite flattered by your comments, everyone. :) Thank you.

janey

Jun 15, 2003, 01:40 PM

arn: trust me, my boyfriend does have a social life. like he said, there are others like him. however, one of my other friends just went to a college where there isn't a special program like that and he doesn't have much of a social life. it depends on the way you do things. i took a couple of college classes, became friends with people 18-70 years old :p it's not hard to have a social life

tpjunkie: ibookin lives at home with his parents.

kwyjibo: IQ doesn't measure anything. it just measures your ability to take a test, like all other tests. there are people with high IQ's who do things you wouldn't really think was intelligent like you said. stereotypes are very...stupid and they're almost never true (yeah, a lot of "smart" people started reading at the age of one but then it's not like we all know calculus by the age of 10) and they're so frustrating you wouldn't believe it, you'd have to step into our shoes to know what it feels like. And trust me, not a lot of intelligent (intelligent meaning people with an IQ over 145) people would read a book like The Great Gatsby on their own volition. Most are forced to in school or by their parents. I would know, my dad made me read that book when I was 6. It was good, but something I would have enjoyed to read later in life. (shadow: it's certainly better than reading war and peace :p )
Your grades are good? That's great! Guess what? i have about 80 friends who are graduating from 8th grade in a few days. Out of that 80, only around 50 have the grades to graduate. Out of the 50, only like 6 or 7 have straight A's. "Intelligent" people don't necessarily perform well in school (but then with the teachers we have...:rolleyes: )

tpjunkie

Jun 15, 2003, 02:07 PM

but then with the teachers we have... )

Well, i've had plenty of teachers who tought crappy material, not by choice but through the mandate of the distict. The environment, syllabus and a wide array of other variables can make the difference in a class roomexperience that is valuble and enjoyable, or background noise for your eric's solitaire game

Doctor Q

Jun 15, 2003, 02:11 PM

Conventional thinkers who are intelligent tend to do well in school. By that I mean that they not only can learn, retain information, and solve problems efficiently, but they think like the teacher does. But there are plenty of high-intelligence students (how ever you choose to measure it) who look at things their own unique way. They're more likely to be frustrated and unsuccessful in school, and educators have trouble placing and guiding them.

If we all thought and learned the same way, the world wouldn't be nearly as interesting.

wdlove

Jun 15, 2003, 02:12 PM

My wife's brother is highly intelligent, didn't need to study much. Close to having a photographic memory. Since he graduated in 1964, it was before "gifted magnet" programs. He became a physician. A weird part of hispersonality is that he doesn't like to be around someone intelligent, his equal. My wife calls him a "Social Retard." With his medical knowlege, he got a girl pregnant and had to get married. My wife's parents were livid, father a physician. Her mother blamed my wife, because she introduced them. She kept hounding my wife about this, until finally she said he's your special pride and joy, but it was his own decision.

He ended up divorcing her. Now he's married to his second wife, she was a nursing assistant. Her brother was in the Air Force, because of ROTC. He never did a residency, and now works a partime job at a clinc with no benefits.

janey

Jun 15, 2003, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Q
They're more likely to be frustrated and unsuccessful in school, and educators have trouble placing and guiding them.

that is so true...i'd fail my math tests because i didn't do a problem the way my teacher wanted us to do it :\
but our teachers don't care about standards and it makes me angry sometimes. they teach something inbetween and what happens is that we never learn the stuff that we need to know for those stupid standardized tests.

baby duck monge

Jun 15, 2003, 04:14 PM

yay for juniors!

i found myself in the same boat exactly a week ago. of course, i am more of a normal age for the achievement, but i certainly congratulate anyone on the road to graduation.

for all of you still waiting to make it to college - be sure to savor the time once you get there and make sure you don't neglect the social aspects of school in total favor of academics. i go to an extremely challenging school where it can be tempting to lock yourself away doing work all the time... and i'm just an english major ;) people who do that, though, are absolutely miserable. DON'T BE THAT GUY!

Vector

Jun 15, 2003, 05:26 PM

I will begin as a second semester junior when i start college in the fall (49 credits from AP tests).

arn

Jun 15, 2003, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
arn: trust me, my boyfriend does have a social life. like he said, there are others like him. however, one of my other friends just went to a college where there isn't a special program like that and he doesn't have much of a social life. it depends on the way you do things. i took a couple of college classes, became friends with people 18-70 years old :p it's not hard to have a social life

It's not the same, though... :)

I wasn't talking about a social life in general... but an age-appropriate social life.

arn

ibookin'

Jun 15, 2003, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by arn
It's not the same, though... :)

I wasn't talking about a social life in general... but an age-appropriate social life.

arn

As I said earlier, the program I'm in is set up to provide that.

http://www.calstatela.edu/academic/eep

Kwyjibo

Jun 15, 2003, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Vector
I will begin as a second semester junior when i start college in the fall (49 credits from AP tests).
out of curiosity how many tests was that? Like 3-4 per year with 4s and 5s.

Vector

Jun 15, 2003, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
out of curiosity how many tests was that? Like 3-4 per year with 4s and 5s.

I took two as a junior and 8 as a senior. During my senior year, i took 7 AP classes and decided to take the enlgish AP exam without having had the course so that i could be exept from freshman english (if anyone was planning on taking the english exam, it is easy and an ap english course is not necessary). The test i took were american history, european history, gov't and politics, comparative gov't, macroeconomics, bc calculus, environmental science, biology, english language and composition, and latin.

What did you think of the calculus exam? What other tests did you take?

wdlove

Jun 15, 2003, 09:22 PM

Speaking of Junior, changing the subject. I happen to be a Junior, are there any others on this forum?

Kwyjibo

Jun 15, 2003, 10:00 PM

I never took the english exams, most of my friends thought they were pretty hard, i know lots of ppl who got a 2 on it and even the top ppl got like 4s.

Sophmore year I took micro and macro, I got 4 on both. They were pretty simple, i was inches away from a 5 i think.

Junior Year- AP US, I got a 5 on this one, very easy.

Senior Year- BC- the MC was ok, the free-responses were tough tho. I left a few parts of a few questions blanks but I think i'll end up with a 3 or a 4 hopefully.
Govt' - easiest test of all, it was short simple and striaghtforward, i'm confident, and hope ot get a 5. I did not take compartive because well senioritis.

I'm not a science person at all so i didn't take any of those although i was in ap physics and did fine in it. I took Ap Euro, but my teacher was a good lecturer and i didn't want to reread all of that on my own so i skipped it. The problem I have is that since i'm majoring in Finance, I need to retake and brush up on the econ stuff, so those are null. If i had passed the english exam it wouldn't have mattered because I need two semster of english for finance; the catch is you need one speech and one business and techincal writing class no matter what. I register for my classes tomorrow ... and take a foreign language exam so who knows how that will go....

Vector

Jun 15, 2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
I never took the english exams, most of my friends thought they were pretty hard, i know lots of ppl who got a 2 on it and even the top ppl got like 4s.

Sophmore year I took micro and macro, I got 4 on both. They were pretty simple, i was inches away from a 5 i think.

Junior Year- AP US, I got a 5 on this one, very easy.

Senior Year- BC- the MC was ok, the free-responses were tough tho. I left a few parts of a few questions blanks but I think i'll end up with a 3 or a 4 hopefully.
Govt' - easiest test of all, it was short simple and striaghtforward, i'm confident, and hope ot get a 5. I did not take compartive because well senioritis.

I'm not a science person at all so i didn't take any of those although i was in ap physics and did fine in it. I took Ap Euro, but my teacher was a good lecturer and i didn't want to reread all of that on my own so i skipped it. The problem I have is that since i'm majoring in Finance, I need to retake and brush up on the econ stuff, so those are null. If i had passed the english exam it wouldn't have mattered because I need two semster of english for finance; the catch is you need one speech and one business and techincal writing class no matter what. I register for my classes tomorrow ... and take a foreign language exam so who knows how that will go....

I am also majoring in finance, with a second major in international business. I have to have a speaking class but only one semester of writing from which i am exempt. I do not get to register until mid july, and they are making me take a foreign language test too.

I thought the calculus exam was easier than i expected; however, i did not study for it as i assumed i could only make a three, and my university will let me take a placement test for it. I find that i do better on tests when i do not care enough to cram for them, as not studying leaves more more relaxed and less nervous during the test.

The gov't test was easy. All of the questions were straight-foward and were purely factual recall. The english language test is easy in my opinion but the literature one is harder as it takes more practice in analysis than what most regular english classes teach.

Kwyjibo

Jun 15, 2003, 10:40 PM

thats cool, My college is lenient on the writing thing. My cousin recommended i take SpeechCOmp, which is half speech and half writing but counts as both in terms or req's so i'm happy with that.
I'm cramming as much spanish grammar as i can at the moment. I'm thinking about doubling in economics but i'm not sure yet and the basics are the same.

Vector

Jun 15, 2003, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
thats cool, My college is lenient on the writing thing. My cousin recommended i take SpeechCOmp, which is half speech and half writing but counts as both in terms or req's so i'm happy with that.
I'm cramming as much spanish grammar as i can at the moment. I'm thinking about doubling in economics but i'm not sure yet and the basics are the same.

My college requires a semester of writing in order to apply to the business school unless you can meet their requirements to be exempt. What do you plan on doing with your degree, job-wise?

Kwyjibo

Jun 15, 2003, 11:04 PM

that depends, if i could i'd like to go straight to b-school hopefully somewhere in the top5.... hehe i'm hopeful and dedicated... i'm hoping to specialize in likee corporate finance maybe but that won't matter as much after b-school. what about you?

shadowfax

Jun 15, 2003, 11:11 PM

i believe you fellas have stumbled across what the macrumors community likes to call a PM conversation. the button to do so is under each post of each user, and you will receive email notifications of PMs. you can also check them via your user cp.

Vector

Jun 15, 2003, 11:14 PM

I plan to spend 2 to 3 years in college depending on whether i have two concentrations or three and depending on what minors i want. I am thinking of having three concentrations or majors in finance, international business, and business economics in public policy as well as a minor in german. That path would take three years unless i went during the summer. I would like to get my mba after that- possibly taking a year off to work- preferably at wharton at the university of pennsylvania (i did not get in their undergrad program that chooses about 400 so i figure i will keep trying).

After school i will probably go into some type of corporate finance- as opposed to personal finance- or take over the financial world and then go to jail for insider tradiong but be able to buy my way out of prison time and just have probation:D .

Kwyjibo

Jun 15, 2003, 11:17 PM

anyone is welcome to share their experiences with transitioning from high school with ap credits into college... The best part about having it in the thread, is that others who may not have read it yet, can post their advice.... i'm sorry were not including topics you care to discuss but i'm sure everyone appreciates real contributions. Aren't you going to college in the fall too?

e-coli

Jun 15, 2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
I also would hate to see him start drinking.

okay okay okay...IT WAS A JOKE!!!

I guess nobody on these boards has seen Animal House. :rolleyes: :p

15 and a Junior in college???? Is that true?

jelloshotsrule

Jun 16, 2003, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
i believe you fellas have stumbled across what the macrumors community likes to call a PM conversation. the button to do so is under each post of each user, and you will receive email notifications of PMs. you can also check them via your user cp.

get over it. ;)

jefhatfield

Jun 16, 2003, 01:30 AM

I would like to get my mba after that- possibly taking a year off to work- preferably at wharton at the university of pennsylvania (i did not get in their undergrad program that chooses about 400 so i figure i will keep trying).

a good resource for elite mba school admissions is "mba advantage" by ronald n yeaple...he looks at the top ten, and some other alternates to them, and some other schools for one on a tight budget, too

for the most part, an mba is a run of the mill degree that almost anyone can get and holds little value...it's the only master's degree i know of that does not require a master's thesis

so to get ahead as an mba, go to a top private mba school like harvard, wharton, or stanford...lots of people know this is key for being an mba who gets hired in those mba jobs and that makes the schools competitive

unlike medical school, law school, or many master's programs, the mba schools usually like their candidates to have at least five years business and managerial corporate experience before they apply

the average ages of the best mba schools in the us are in the high 20s up to the 30s...not 21 to 23

the main skill you will have to possess in mba school is working the harvard case study...to know what is going on, it helps to have real world experience and life experience...sure, you can get into some mba program early and write up mediocre case studies which show your lack of experience and still get your degree, but if you are going to pay a lot of money for an mba school, and no good school is cheap, you want to get your money's worth and being experienced in the work world for 5-10 years aids in that

my advice, get your bachelor's first, work five or more years, and if you still want to...apply for mba school...chances are your employer may pay some or all of it

my 2 cents
ps...good luck

jefhatfield

Jun 16, 2003, 02:02 AM

but if you can't get into a private elite mba school on that short list of ten or so schools one always seem to see, don't fret

there are some great schools which are public, and some less expensive private schools which can give you just as good of an mba education, but with maybe somewhat less prestige and fewer connections

i will take california for an example...i had a friend who got accepted to usc and hayward state...one is the most sought after mba school in southern california and the other is simply an accredited mba school few have heard of outside of the bay area in northern california

now if my friend had got accepted only at hayward state, he would have still got his mba and learned the basics of being an mba

chances are that, educationally speaking, usc will not offer that much more than hayward state...it's the connections that one goes for in a stanford and usc...but one needs the personality to match and know how to work those connections

many mbas take the educational approach and go for the education, not worrying about connections, and go to a ucla or uc berkeley and get just as good an education as the more prestigious stanford or usc

you have to ask yourself if you want an education or that plus great connections (which a wharton is famous for)

also, being an mba is not just about making money...learning is worthy too and you can save a lot of money by choosing a public school or less expensive private institution

shadowfax

Jun 16, 2003, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
get over it. ;) will do, pal :)

i went to see Gangs of New York finally tonight, on for 1.50$ at the discount theater. quite a violent movie, i must say. it was pretty good, though, i suppose. i don't know that i understand it, heh.

janey

Jun 16, 2003, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by e-coli
15 and a Junior in college???? Is that true?
you better believe it!
there are a surprising number of people like ibookin :p

shadowfax

Jun 16, 2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
you better believe it!
there are a surprising number of people like ibookin :p oh, i don't know about that. i am sure you've just been around them a lot more than anyone else. for all of us, that is extremely rare, but that doesn't mean that i wouldn't expect them all to be relatively grouped together...

jelloshotsrule

Jun 16, 2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
will do, pal :)

i went to see Gangs of New York finally tonight, on for 1.50$ at the discount theater. quite a violent movie, i must say. it was pretty good, though, i suppose. i don't know that i understand it, heh.

it's not the best movie ever. but dang if ddl's character isn't the most awesome, yet wickedest bad guy ever... ;)

Doctor Q

Jun 16, 2003, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
it's not the best movie ever. but dang if ddl's character isn't the most awesome, yet wickedest bad guy ever... ;) I think that his character, Bill the Butcher, was the nonanimated preincarnation of Snidely Whiplash:

http://flyingmoose.org/moose/dd3.jpg

jelloshotsrule

Jun 16, 2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Q
I think that his character, Bill the Butcher, was the nonanimated preincarnation of Snidely Whiplash:

http://flyingmoose.org/moose/dd3.jpg

hah. is that from rocky and bullwinkle? the name snidely sounds familiar...

Doctor Q

Jun 16, 2003, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
hah. is that from rocky and bullwinkle? the name snidely sounds familiar... Snidely Whiplash was the bad guy in the Dudley Do-Right cartoon series, one of the wonderful cartoons created by Jay Ward and his stable of artists, writers, and voice actors. His most famous cartoon characters were Rocky & Bullwinkle. He also did George of the Jungle, Mr. Peobody, Superchicken, Tom Slick, Fractured Fairy Tales, and others.

Hans Conreid was the voice of Snidely Whiplash, the evil villian who was always tying heroine Nell to the railroad tracks, where she could be rescued by Dudley, the Canadian Mountie, and his horse named Horse.