Gallery of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard (9A410) Screenshots

[MacRumors]

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ThinkSecret (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/leopard9a410.html) posted a Gallery of Screenshots (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/index.html) from the latest developer seed of Mac OS X Leopard.

The rumor site notes that the latest build has "more bugs than ever" but focuses on visual changes and new features from the latest build. Highlights are itemized here:

- Webclip button on Safari (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/27.html)
- Software Update interface (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/02.html)
- Directory application (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/10.html)
- Automator 2.0 (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/13.html)
- iCal 3.0 (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/17.html)
- Mail 3.0 Stationary (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/19.html), Sample 1 (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/20.html), Sample 2 (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/21.html), Sample 3 (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/22.html), Sample 4 (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/23.html)
- Mail 3.0 To Do (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/24.html)
- Finder QuickView (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/31.html)

Full gallery is available at ThinkSecret (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/index.html). An earlier MacRumors article (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/04/12/mac-os-x-theme-change-in-leopard-seed-9a410/) points out the unified theme in the latest Leopard build, with a shift away from the "Brushed Metal" look in the current version of Mac OS X.

[siurpeeman]

i like that they're removing brushed metal from everything, but i want something fresher. i'm hoping wwdc will surprise us all (in a good way, of course).

[antonwalker]

same as always. No big changes. Dang you apple

[Luis]

Be calm everybody... apple has until October:D

[Texas04]

i like that they're removing brushed metal from everything, but i want something fresher. i'm hoping wwdc will surprise us all (in a good way, of course).

Definitely.. and I am hoping all of those "bugs" are REAL bugs and not a ploy by Apple to make us "think" Leopard is not ready yet.

I am also hoping that no "fatal" error messages show up ;) .:apple:

[Master Atrus]

I have to agree that it is nice to see some consistency, but I would like something a little more "Apple" than glossy gray. I don't know what (which is why I'm not a developer), but I just would like something a little more fresh.
Oh well ... one step at a time!! Keep up the good work Apple!

[BeyondCloister]

I would like something a little more "Apple" than glossy gray. I don't know what (which is why I'm not a developer), but I just would like something a little more fresh.

The glossy grey does not get in the way of the actual application. When using an application you do not want the UI to overpower the data you are working with.

[antonwalker]

for some reason i want my mac to look like Vista. Vista looks very sexy. Too bad everything else on it sux... Well maybe not DX10

[Scarlet Fever]

the horizontal scroll bars are solid white, the vertical ones are still Aqua. hrmm...

EDIT; like this (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/20.html) one

[Music-Man]

The glossy grey does not get in the way of the actual application. When using an application you do not want the UI to overpower the data you are working with.

My thoughts exactly. What makes an application is what's INSIDE the window, not what colour it is.
I remember reading somewhere that Apple did extensive research into which shades of colours did not distract the user from the content. The gray/aluminium colour was found to produce the best results and was chosen for the UI as well as the cinema displays. I believe it works. Has anyone tried doing any work on Vista? Aero is too much and takes the focus away from your work.

The more I look at this new unified theme, the more I like it. Clean, simple and effective. What I am keen to see, is what Apple and developers can do inside those windows. Core Animation all the way!

[puuukeey]

hopefully the dark grey is a placeholder for something innovative. who cares what color apple makes the scroll bars. I'm hoping that apple doesn't just make a resolution indipendant version of aqua. we need less windows, less hierarchy, less clutter.

Dashboard, spotlight, the dock and expose are all about the frustrating reality of a window system and the need to get over it. The signs are everywhere, multitouch, Zuis, the 3d interfaces, projectors, audiopad. Windows are just a graphical interpretation of text based interfaces. we now have the technology to interact more directly with out information and calculations.

give the programmer the option to design his own theme. Simplicity is not skin deep.

[Marvy]

i like that they're removing brushed metal from everything, but i want something fresher. i'm hoping wwdc will surprise us all (in a good way, of course).

I could very well imagine that. To me, it seems that the interface in the current build doesn't really match up, almost as if it was meant to look very different. Perhaps they are working with a different theme internally, and releasing the builds with a more traditional look.
On the other hand, it could just be the resolution independance not fully functioning yet.

[Flowbee]

Call me crazy, but I miss the pinstripes. :o

[BiikeMike]

aren't people like.......NOT supposed to release this stuff? :D

[mjstew33]

I really like it so far. Needs some obvious improvements, but so far so good.

This will be a solid-as-a-rock OS when Apple releases. :)

[lOUDsCREAMEr]

hopefully the dark grey is a placeholder for something innovative. who cares what color apple makes the scroll bars. I'm hoping that apple doesn't just make a resolution indipendant version of aqua. we need less windows, less hierarchy, less clutter.

Dashboard, spotlight, the dock and expose are all about the frustrating reality of a window system and the need to get over it. The signs are everywhere, multitouch, Zuis, the 3d interfaces, projectors, audiopad. Windows are just a graphical interpretation of text based interfaces. we now have the technology to interact more directly with out information and calculations.

i concur..

[randyharris]

I find it difficult to get excited now that I know we're looking at an additional four months. [sigh]

But I really like the new look, I'm a user and big fan of UNO so I'm really happy with the new style, it's very UNO like.

[Eidorian]

I hope Quick View really improves upon the current preview icon system. A thumbnail cache would really help.

[aafuss1]

Podcast Capture seems to be like a simple audio capturing application for podcasts obviously.

[Darkroom]

ohhh... i hope all of Mac OS 10.5 will be dark transparencies... well, exactly like the "Picture 11" window in their screenshot... looks like its going that way... excited!

http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/image/31.jpg

[Stella]

At last a unified GUI look, no more Aqua / grey / brushed metal combo.

Personally, I loathe brushed metal.

A consistent GUI is good.

However, I do think the grey is a tad boring. I loved the original Aqua look.

[Brandon Sharitt]

I would have prefered they go with the smooth white look(like in Tiger Mail) over all instead of the gray.

[ortuno2k]

Yeah I'm getting bored of the brushed metal, especially on Safari.
I do likes the looks of iTunes and alikes though, so these screenshots do look real nice.
Still, nothing "WoW" yet.

[OwlBoy]

ohhh... i hope all of Mac OS 10.5 will be dark transparencies... well, exactly like the "Picture 11" window in their screenshot... looks like its going that way... excited!

http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/image/31.jpg

You can see this is in A LOT of Apple's current apps.

Most of the Pro tools, iPhoto, Quicktime Player. This is just a continuation of that currently.

[antonwalker]

first thing I do when I get leapord, is to download a theme. Though they might not have any for a while.:(

[andrewag]

I hope the revised greys are part of a "classic" look or something. Personally I think it looks terrible especially on the "About this Mac" screen shot.

Dare I say it, but it looks dated compared to Vista *ducks*.

[obesecat55]

I, too, like the lighter grayish/whites found in the horizontal scrollbars in that screenshot, and those found in the current mail.

Whatever they do, I just hope it's not like iTunes 7. Yucky doo doo! I dislike the matte business. (Pinstripes where good, but that's old stuff now... and I dislike brushed metal too (UNO!) but I know they're getting rid of that too.)

Hmm... what about something totally new? Where windows reflected each other just a bit? or something like multiple person iChat video chats, and the entering and exiting frontrow sorta gray gradient (but not necessarily this media-feeling color scheme) backdrop 3d reflectiony thingy?

[blueflame]

This is the kind of stuff I come here for. im completely serious. I think about it like this all the time. This is pure brain juice. Creative genious and fun in a back to the future kind of way. everyone knows its coming. we just want apple to go there first. This is what makes these rumors fun. puttings things together. mental puzzles. ahhh. i got my fix for the night

Also, on a side note of my own speculation. Quickview; why couldnt it work like, when you move your mouse over it, without clicking a button, a mini preview of the whatever it is kinda genies forward, very fast, smooth and subtle. Kind of like when you put your mouse over the rss button in safari, but 3d and genie effect like.very quick.somehow this to me has the convinience and wow factor. anyway, just being creative.

hopefully the dark grey is a placeholder for something innovative. who cares what color apple makes the scroll bars. I'm hoping that apple doesn't just make a resolution indipendant version of aqua. we need less windows, less hierarchy, less clutter.

Dashboard, spotlight, the dock and expose are all about the frustrating reality of a window system and the need to get over it. The signs are everywhere, multitouch, Zuis, the 3d interfaces, projectors, audiopad. Windows are just a graphical interpretation of text based interfaces. we now have the technology to interact more directly with out information and calculations.

give the programmer the option to design his own theme. Simplicity is not skin deep.

[zakatov]

Sad, you can have basically the same look with ShapeShifter + Aqua Extreme theme now (and could have for some time):

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1157/picture1ea7.png

[iMikeT]

That letter to Steve Jobs should read

"Dear Steve Jobs, Say it ain't so with the delay of Leopard."

[surferfromuk]

I'm guessing they're introducing a 'bogus change' to see what breaks - to test developers adoption of interfacing rules and that they have a 'wow' GUI hiding in the wings...

at least I sincerely hope so because gray is the colour of battleships, prison and the colour of the sky over mount doom.:rolleyes:

[siurpeeman]

for some reason i want my mac to look like Vista. Vista looks very sexy. Too bad everything else on it sux... Well maybe not DX10

oh no he didn't!

one reason why i think vista looks sexy to some is that it's new, and it's fresh. really, it's just different. os x 10.4's been around for two years now, and people are bound to get tired of the look no matter how great the functionality of the os. it's why i'm hoping leopard will be radically different from a visual perspective. i wish wwdc were tomorrow and not nab.

Call me crazy, but I miss the pinstripes. :o

i miss the pinstripes, too. :(

[Cloudsurfer]

I'm guessing the more unified look would make it easier for Apple to overhaul the entire GUI all at once. That Quick Look interface looks damn sexy and is more in style with the Front Row, Apple TV and even iPhone interfaces. My two cents are that Leopard's GUI will be something like that.

[BeyondCloister]

I'm guessing they're introducing a 'bogus change' to see what breaks - to test developers adoption of interfacing rules and that they have a 'wow' GUI hiding in the wings...

at least I sincerely hope so because gray is the colour of battleships, prison and the colour of the sky over mount doom.:rolleyes:

I guess it depends on if you are wanting to use your Mac to do things (i.e. as a productivity tool) or you just want it to sit there looking pretty.

[diametric]

..Apple. I can already do this and it looks better:

http://i11.tinypic.com/2cg0nib.jpg

I want something to wow me. Not something which I looks no better/not as good as my current set-up.

BTW - That's Shapeshifter + the '7' theme.

[Cloudsurfer]

What app did you use for that?

Edit: nevermind ;)

[SiliconAddict]

same as always. No big changes. Dang you apple

Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?

[belovedmonster]

Why are the majority of people commenting on this new look as if it is the finished thing with only a handful of people every now and again saying they expect to see a GUI overhaul when they announce the rest of the features.

Isn't it totally obvious to everyone in the entire world that they are going to do a massive overhaul of the GUI? Vista just came out with a fresh new look and Apple MUST respond. You cant run a business up against a massive market leader and not respond to the new features they introduce. Changing the subtleties of the interface is not going to be all that Apple do. They are going to introduce some mega new interface.

The fact that Apple is still holding out on several features of Leopard, and the fact that a completely new GUI would warrant a demonstration by Jobs himself gives us reason to believe that they would never show the new interface in these developer seeds.

As for what the theme is going to be, I think that is pretty obvious as well. AppleTV and the iPhone's interfaces tell you everything you need to know. Black is in at the moment, as Vista has shown, and Apple is going to wow everyone with the prettiest black and transparent interface yet seen. Every new Apple app of recent times has introduced some element of black and transparent interface such as cover flow in iTunes and this IS going to be the basis of the new theme. Hell, even the Apple website is slowly adding more and more black pages. Black is the new look!

Anyone who assumes that these developer seeds are exclusively showing off what the new interface will be like are frankly crazy.

[diametric]

Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?


Not a good idea in my opinion. Too much clutter, I would much rather prefer individual apps. Then again, the only main one I use is Mail. I would use iCal, but it would be mainly for school assignments... And I use iProcrastinate for that.

Infact, didnt Windows have one of those.. and it now has indv. apps in Vista?

[123]

I would have prefered they go with the smooth white look(like in Tiger Mail) over all instead of the gray.

Exactly, dark grey is reserved for old Windows dialogs.

I think there was a Tiger beta that looked like what you are describing. It actually looked much better than what we finallly got.

[diametric]

Why are the majority of people commenting on this new look as if it is the finished thing with only a handful of people every now and again saying they expect to see a GUI overhaul when they announce the rest of the features.

Isn't it totally obvious to everyone in the entire world that they are going to do a massive overhaul of the GUI? Vista just came out with a fresh new look and Apple MUST respond. You cant run a business up against a massive market leader and not respond to the new features they introduce. Changing the subtleties of the interface is not going to be all that Apple do. They are going to introduce some mega new interface.

The fact that Apple is still holding out on several features of Leopard, and the fact that a completely new GUI would warrant a demonstration by Jobs himself gives us reason to believe that they would never show the new interface in these developer seeds.

As for what the theme is going to be, I think that is pretty obvious as well. AppleTV and the iPhone's interfaces tell you everything you need to know. Black is in at the moment, as Vista has shown, and Apple is going to wow everyone with the prettiest black and transparent interface yet seen. Every new Apple app of recent has introduced some element of black and transparent interface such as cover flow in iTunes and this IS going to be the basis of the new new theme.

Anyone who assumes that these developer seeds are exclusively showing off what the new interface will be like are frankly crazy.

Agreed. No matter what you say about Vista's GUI, we all know Black is in ... and black always looks better when it's see-through.

[Shanesan]

Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?

On the contrary, if you were to do it something like Outlook, all you'd get is more button-pushing to get where you want to go.

On the Mac, you just flip from program to program, quickly and seamlessly. I love having everything seperate because it's easier to work with compared to when I used to use/tried to run away from Outlook (I hate that piece of work).

[chimerical]

The gray shades are so dark that the contrast between the text and background are narrower. This arguably makes the text less legible. I'd say something more like this:

http://gui.interacto.net

...would be far easier for our eyes.

[anti-microsoft]

I'm glad that they've changed the Web clip icon in safari (I didn't like the black icon). I think the brushed metal was nice but now I think this sleeker gray/grey is amazing. Photo booth also looks great with video and everything.
MORE EFFECTS!! WOOO!:D

[aLoC]

Quickview has got to be the most pointless thing. You can get the same effect in Tiger. Click on a file and do command-option-i to get an inspector. Now when you click on various files it will update and show a preview.

[123]

Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?

Either this, or more tightly coupled.

Anyway, it's a terrible idea to put just the todo feature into Mail.app. It reminds me of what they did to iTunes. Why couldn't they build a real media player/center? Why can't they build a real Personal Information Manager? Mail will always be primarily an email program but with some weird features like todo lists, possibly with deadline notification, something that should go into iCal, if not into a separate program alltogether, or into Apple PIM. It seems to me that Apple severely lacks a strategy for their OS apps.

[AppleMan101]

Quickview has got to be the most pointless thing. You can get the same effect in Tiger. Click on a file and do command-option-i to get an inspector. Now when you click on various files it will update and show a preview.

I think you've misunderstood. With QuickLook you see far more about the file.

For example if you've got multiple versions of a Keynote and can;t remember which one you want. you can QuickLook the keynote slide by slide to see whether it'd the one you want, which is far more than you can do in the inspector.

QuickLook is going system wide, not just in finder, one other notable use for it is in Time Machine where you can QuickLook documents to see whether you've found the right version.

[GanleyBurger]

Vista Looks pretty sexy. Come on, Apple. Black, Black, Black. Problem is... will Leopard now be accused of not only being 4 months behind, but ripping-off Vista???

The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing still apply to ya. Jack Reis and Al Trout, save us!!!:)

[123]

Also, what the fxk is this: "No other applications can be open durin this installation."?

They had two directions to choose from:

- Build a decent (aka modern) OS that is capable of installing software without restart.
- Go back to System 7.

They obvously opted for the latter.

[hopejr]

I think you've misunderstood. With QuickView you see far more about the file.

For example if you've got multiple versions of a Keynote and can;t remember which one you want. you can QuickView the keynote slide by slide to see whether it'd the one you want, which is far more than you can do in the inspector.

QuickView is going system wide, not just in finder, one other notable use for it is in Time Machine where you can QuickView documents to see whether you've found the right version.
QuickView is also less work, especially for those who seldom use keyboard shortcuts.

I can't help but notice the talk about a white horizontal scroll bar. I assume it's the one in the Automator shots where a sheet is open (that's the only non-blue one i can see in that gallery). The reason it's white is because the window it's in doesn't have focus (the sheet does). This is normal even in Tiger.

[Project]

Quickview has got to be the most pointless thing. You can get the same effect in Tiger. Click on a file and do command-option-i to get an inspector. Now when you click on various files it will update and show a preview.


Erm, that is nothing like QuickLook

[GregA2]

i like that they're removing brushed metal from everything, but i want something fresher.

They were GOING to do a fresh all-new look, but the people needed to do it got moved to the iPhone project. ;) :p

[SiliconAddict]

Not a good idea in my opinion. Too much clutter, I would much rather prefer individual apps. Then again, the only main one I use is Mail. I would use iCal, but it would be mainly for school assignments... And I use iProcrastinate for that.

Infact, didnt Windows have one of those.. and it now has indv. apps in Vista?

Too much clutter. What more clutter is there then needing multiple Windows for something that should be managed in one app? When you are dealing with cal\contacts\email\todos you are switching back and forth. Needing to manage three windows for that is asinine. Esp since we are now in the age of Widescreens. I'm sorry but you'll get outlook 2003 when you pry it from my cold dead hands. (And no I'm not cross enrolled in the NRA. :p )
And while I'd be the first to admit that Outlook is FAR FAR away from perfect it's a heck of a lot closer to it then Apple's consumer designed applications.

Yes Vista has ind apps. That's because MS's OS has never shipped with Cal\Contacts\Todos before Vista. Outlook and pretty much every other organizational software package has all these things integrated.

[AppleMan101]

QuickView is also less work, especially for those who seldom use keyboard shortcuts.

I can't help but notice the talk about a white horizontal scroll bar. I assume it's the one in the Automator shots where a sheet is open (that's the only non-blue one i can see in that gallery). The reason it's white is because the window it's in doesn't have focus (the sheet does). This is normal even in Tiger.

The one i saw was here (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/20.html), it's for scrolling through the mail HTML sheight.

[mark88]

How come everytime we see Leopard screenshots they look like they have been scanned?

some texture going on?

[dartzorichalcos]

The new GUI looks awsome. I glad that Apple will finally replace Aqua in Leopard with a new GUI. It's time for a new look in Mac OS X.

[Project]

They were GOING to do a fresh all-new look, but the people needed to do it got moved to the iPhone project. ;) :p


lol... in a roundabout way I think you are kind of right. People have been saying that OSX generally has been designed in mind with the hardware at the time. Aqua - plastic iMac, iBook etc. Brushed metal - PowerBook, Power Mac. Well now Apple has a mixture of black, white and metal hardware. The iPhone matches this as its black with a steel rim and a whitish back.

I think for Leopard, the basic windows wont be dramatically different but given a fresher look. But notice how everything else that you do with the Mac is being given the black look - its becoming common place in specific tasks - QuickLook, Time Machine, Spaces, iChat presentation gallery and video chat, iPhoto editing, Front Row, DVD Player, CoverFlow etc.

I think that is where you will see the smoked black stuff. To have it in the main windows as well wouldnt be a good idea in my opinion. I have seen some of the ShapeShifter themes where people have black everywhere and it looks horrible and reduces ease of use.

Im looking at the iPhone UI though and wondering if there will be any crossover with Leopard. Some of the stuff on the iPhone is beautiful

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0226.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0195.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0197.jpg

[psychofreak]

The new GUI looks awsome. I glad that Apple will finally replace Aqua in Leopard with a new GUI. It's time for a new look in Mac OS X.

THIS is NOT an aqua replacement...

[cc bcc]

Why would this not be the final look? (other than the fact that it sucks) Why would they change the UI a little bit like they've done now, if there is a complete overhaul coming soon?

[mark88]

My biggest problem is that toolbar icons don't stand out well against the dark grey as well as they do with unified....

case in point, apps that use brushed metal and have colored toolbar icons look awful

[achtung!]

i don't like the overall look of the "new" interface. i was expecting a fresh, and more intimate look. this is UNO's deja vu. but UNO is even better, 'cause it has a clear/clean version, that for me, works like wonders.

i dislike the new interface 'cause it has lots of inconsistences: like button sizes and lots of bad alignments, and the fact that some apps have rounded corners, others don't. it's really a mess... the thing that attracts me most, were the black transparent windows. it's not unique but has something of the fresh look that was expecting in leopard.

the "new" interface is very greyish, boring, deja-vu. it's dead before it's even released. i am hoping this is not the final look of it. i am praying!! :) but i can always stick with UNO to camouflage apple lack of consistent.
oh well, let's wait and see...

PS: GRAY IS THE COLOR OF INDICISION!!

[BillyShears]

the horizontal scroll bars are solid white, the vertical ones are still Aqua. hrmm...

Which screenshot are you looking at? The closest I can find is this one (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/14.html), but the scrollbars are white in it because they window doesn't have focus. This is standard behaviour, I think.

Other screenshots show blue horizontal scrollbars: here (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/15.html) and here (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/31.html)

[GanleyBurger]

Apple. 5% of the computer market. Go back to the basics. Wow everybody. Black is back. Just look at your packaging for Logic Pro. woot woot!!!:apple:

[bigandy]

i love that new photo booth effect (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/26.html)... groundbreaking, to say the least! :D

i'm sure it will revolutionalise photography as we know it...

[MacPomme]

I think the Finder Quick Preview has a "button" included that could be indicative of Leopard supporting multi-touch functionality.

Have a squiz ....

[AppleMan101]

Which screenshot are you looking at? The closest I can find is this one (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/14.html), but the scrollbars are white in it because they window doesn't have focus. This is standard behaviour, I think.

Other screenshots show blue horizontal scrollbars: here (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/15.html) and here (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/31.html)

no, they were talking about this (http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/source/20.html) different type of horizontal scroll bar, scrolling through the stationary.

[dartzorichalcos]

Or in Leopard, Apple will let you choose the GUI. Either Aqua or the mysterious Illuminous. I hope this will be the case. Give users the option of a different GUI.

[SiliconAddict]

On the contrary, if you were to do it something like Outlook, all you'd get is more button-pushing to get where you want to go.

On the Mac, you just flip from program to program, quickly and seamlessly. I love having everything seperate because it's easier to work with compared to when I used to use/tried to run away from Outlook (I hate that piece of work).

No you have tabs. Moving from E-mail to calendar to Todos to Contacts is as simple as a click. And adding a new entry for any of these items is literally a 2 clicks. NEW -> Select Appointment\Contact\Task\Journal Entry\Note\Internet Fax\Meeting request. Now lets look at what you have to do if you have an e-mail and you want to create a new calendar entry. You need to tab over to Cal. either point and click or key combo a new entry. Hopefully you remember what the date time and duration is or you will need to tab back to your e-mail to check it. On outlook it opens up a window on top of what you are working on right there. Hell I have a Macro setup that allows me to dump the text of the e-mail directly into the appointment entry and throws the contact into the attending field all from Outlook. So when I get an appointment notification I know what e-mail it pertained to due to the e-mail embedded directly into the appt. Just because you are comfortable with a certain way of doing things does not mean its the most efficient way of doing it. The simple fact of the matter is the entire business world has migrated to apps that revolve around a a unified UI. Everything from Peachtree to Outlook to Lotus to the others escape me at 5AM in the morning. What it boils down to is less windows == less clutter.

[pknz]

Hahaha at multi-touch expander:p

[AppleMan101]

I think the Finder Quick Prview has a "button" included that could be indicative of Leopard supporting multi-touch functionality.

Have a squiz ....

Well if it was multi-touch, surely it wouldn't need a button? :confused:

Maybe a proud owner of 9A410 could tell us whether the button is just a new type of "open" button or something more mysterious?

[SiliconAddict]

Apple. 5% of the computer market. Go back to the basics. Wow everybody. Black is back. Just look at your packaging for Logic Pro. woot woot!!!:apple:

Black was never gone. So saith my IBM Thinkpad.:p

[Project]

I think the Finder Quick Prview has a "button" included that could be indicative of Leopard supporting multi-touch functionality.

Have a squiz ....

I think thats a maximise/fullscreen mode button. Look in Quicktime for instance when in full screen.

[psychofreak]

No you have tabs. Moving from E-mail to calendar to Todos to Contacts is as simple as a click. And adding a new entry for any of these items is literally a 2 clicks. NEW -> Select Appointment\Contact\Task\Journal Entry\Note\Internet Fax\Meeting request. Now lets look at what you have to do if you have an e-mail and you want to create a new calendar entry. You need to tab over to Cal. either point and click or key combo a new entry. Hopefully you remember what the date time and duration is or you will need to tab back to your e-mail to check it. On outlook it opens up a window on top of what you are working on right there. Hell I have a Macro setup that allows me to dump the text of the e-mail directly into the appointment entry and throws the contact into the attending field all from Outlook. So when I get an appointment notification I know what e-mail it pertained to due to the e-mail embedded directly into the appt. Just because you are comfortable with a certain way of doing things does not mean its the most efficient way of doing it. The simple fact of the matter is the entire business world has migrated to apps that revolve around a a unified UI. Everything from Peachtree to Outlook to Lotus to the others escape me at 5AM in the morning. What it boils down to is less windows == less clutter.
How is having tabbed apps better than having the apps open and using CMD+Tab?

[achtung!]

Or in Leopard, Apple will let you choose the GUI. Either Aqua or the mysterious Illuminous. I hope this will be the case. Give users the option of a different GUI.

that could be good for the users from one prespective: at the first glance they have a choice. but in the other hand, for me, it would seem like apple couldnt decide what to choose. leaving the "responsability" to the user. its like you having two ways of solve a problem and wait for your "client" to choose, what, FOR HIM, is the best. the best would be apple having "a" solution that really believed in. that would seem like a solid statment for me.

and there always be skins, themes and other stuff for leopard around there.:)

[SiliconAddict]

How is having tabbed apps better than having the apps open and using CMD+Tab?

How is having a browser with tabs any better then having multiple windows open?

[surferfromuk]

I think the fact that a lot of mac faithful, including myself, can clearly see that Vista has a sexy, appealing look should be enough to start ringing warning bells at Apple.

Yes, XP looked tired and dull when compared to OSX but that's changed. Somehow Vista has acquirred the one thing Apple always had over M$ - 'class'!.

Apple still have the classy beautiful H/W but OSX is very suddenly looking a touch 'last gen' regardless of what's under the hood. Time to up the ante and risk alienating the army of 'grey lovers' with some radical new ideas.

[Luc@]

I hope Apple is not going to use a black GUI:
white text on black background is really a stupid choice! Reading it is a lot more difficult!

One more thing: QuickView doesn't exist. The feature is called "Quick Look".

[Project]

I think the fact that a lot of mac faithful, including myself, can clearly see that Vista has a sexy, appealing look should be enough to start ringing warning bells at Apple.

Yes, XP looked tired and dull when compared to OSX but that's changed. Somehow Vista has acquirred the one thing Apple always had over M$ - 'class'!.

Apple still have the classy beautiful H/W but OSX is very suddenly looking a touch 'last gen' regardless of what's under the hood. Time to up the ante and risk alienating the army of 'grey lovers' with some radical new ideas.

I agree and disagree.

I agree that Vista looks nice. It has a new *theme*.

I disagree that OSX needs radical new ideas. OSX beats Vista from a UI standpoint fairly easily. There is a huge difference between a theme and how something works. OSX for instance, has a multitude of ways in which to manage your windows and workflow that blows Vista away IMO. Expose, Spaces, Hide, Hide Others etc. Preview/QuickLook is an extremely nice combination.

I think people who bring up Vista are only really talking about the theme - colours, transparency and fades. What is radical about this? Absolutely nothing. Its just prettier. Its like Pimp My Ride > Vista looks far better than XP but it works the same way. Im quite disappointed the Windows team didnt look harder at Windows management and other new ideas. The same metaphor still applies in Vista save for Flip 3D which is pretty weak.

I still think Apple need to refresh OSX to make it look more modern, but I would like them to do so without hurting productivity by maintaining that minimalist, sleek look. Things like doing away with the grey, resolution independence, more detailed icons and typography will do this.

[Project]

I hope Apple is not going to use a black GUI:
white text on black background is really a stupid choice! Reading it is a lot more difficult!
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Exactly... which is why I am happy to see Apple only use it on interfaces that have a minimal amount of text and just a few buttons. It really wouldnt work if the whole toolbar on every windows was black. Try Vista with Word 2007 set as the black theme and maximised. Its incredibly hard to use.

[Max Payne]

Forget the screenshots, we need the secrets.

[MacDonaldsd]

I like the new unified look. Looks nice and clean and isn't in your face.

These secrets better be good mind, not paying for a slightly tinkered UI

[thefunkymunky]

..Apple. I can already do this and it looks better:

http://i11.tinypic.com/2cg0nib.jpg

I want something to wow me. Not something which I looks no better/not as good as my current set-up.

BTW - That's Shapeshifter + the '7' theme.

Hey, where did you find the '7' theme?

[psychofreak]

How is having a browser with tabs any better then having multiple windows open?

There is less clutter as you often have many browser windows open, but barely have more than two organisation apps together :)

[rspress]

I guess that Microsoft wished they had said that working on the Zune caused the delay in Vista being released since the iPhone excuse worked for Apple.

What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

What makes the most sense is that they are spending the time to unify the interface UI's so that the iPhone, AppleTV, OS X 10.5 and the new iPod are all the same. Now that would be worth waiting for. I hope I am not let down. After all Apple was mocking Microsoft for Vista being so late.....the last thing they need is no good reason for OS X being late and the iPhone is not a good reason.

[elppa]

ohhh... i hope all of Mac OS 10.5 will be dark transparencies... well, exactly like the "Picture 11" window in their screenshot... looks like its going that way... excited!

http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/image/31.jpg

That's called the HUD — or “Heads-Up Display”.

As pointed out it is already in a few apps and is meant as a utility window.

I think the comment on multi-touch is very interesting indeed. They could be on to something there.

[stadidas]

Also, what the fxk is this: "No other applications can be open durin this installation."?

They had two directions to choose from:

- Build a decent (aka modern) OS that is capable of installing software without restart.
- Go back to System 7.

They obvously opted for the latter.

A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?

[Rocket850]

So far this OS makes me "Yawn" Those secret features better be kicka$$

[rspress]

A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?

Actually you can rewrite parts of the OS while it is running but this is never a good idea to do for obvious reasons.

Many installers like to shutdown other programs not because they have to but it makes it easier on users to understand. If you install a program that is available in other programs then those programs will have to be restarted in order to take advantage of the new install. The same is true for those that require a restart of the system. I have force quit the installer at the point it wants to restart the computer and continued with other installs or other work while not using what I had just installed.

I don't think many people here remember system 7 or way back to System 1. The fun of Multi-finder and switcher. Crash, crash, freeze, freeze. I love the fact that my Macbook will not run anything other than OS X. I have my eMac for running under classic mode for the two programs I use under OS 9 and I could really do without those programs in a heartbeat. If Vaporware of the decade "Typestyler" ever comes out for OS X then I would never dip into classic. Since Typestyler has been "coming real soon" to OS X for 5 to 7 years now I have really stopped caring about it.

[BenRoethig]

lol... in a roundabout way I think you are kind of right. People have been saying that OSX generally has been designed in mind with the hardware at the time. Aqua - plastic iMac, iBook etc. Brushed metal - PowerBook, Power Mac. Well now Apple has a mixture of black, white and metal hardware. The iPhone matches this as its black with a steel rim and a whitish back.

I think for Leopard, the basic windows wont be dramatically different but given a fresher look. But notice how everything else that you do with the Mac is being given the black look - its becoming common place in specific tasks - QuickLook, Time Machine, Spaces, iChat presentation gallery and video chat, iPhoto editing, Front Row, DVD Player, CoverFlow etc.

I think that is where you will see the smoked black stuff. To have it in the main windows as well wouldnt be a good idea in my opinion. I have seen some of the ShapeShifter themes where people have black everywhere and it looks horrible and reduces ease of use.

Im looking at the iPhone UI though and wondering if there will be any crossover with Leopard. Some of the stuff on the iPhone is beautiful

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0226.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0195.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0197.jpg

I have a feeling that when Leopard is shown in beta form, it is going to share a lot with the iPhone GUI.

[BenRoethig]

Vista Looks pretty sexy. Come on, Apple. Black, Black, Black. Problem is... will Leopard now be accused of not only being 4 months behind, but ripping-off Vista???

The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing still apply to ya. Jack Reis and Al Trout, save us!!!:)

While their at it, would they mind stealing the start menu (and improve upon it)? As much as it pains me to say it, it's a much easier to access your apps and documents then Apple's open a window and search approach.

[Much Ado]

While their at it, would they mind stealing the start menu (and improve upon it)? As much as it pains me to say it, it's a much easier to access your apps and documents then Apple's open a window and search approach.

Sounds like you need to use Butler, my friend :)

Hate to say this, but i wouldn't be surprised if the 'Secret Features' never showed up in Leopard at all...

MA.

[Counter]

i miss the pinstripes, too. :(

From these screen shots, I miss design period.

The greys gotta go. Sort of acceptable when it's supposed to be metal being brushed and all. But removing the brushes = not metal anymore. It's just grey. And grey is the most boring colour. I also miss the pinstripes, but I can't see Apple going back to them. I think they have a GUI hiding away.

[psychofreak]

While their at it, would they mind stealing the start menu (and improve upon it)? As much as it pains me to say it, it's a much easier to access your apps and documents then Apple's open a window and search approach.

Put the Application folder in the dock, and then you can just hold your mouse on it or secondary-click it for a full list of Applications :)

[CmdrLaForge]

Hi there,

here is a simple question: once the look is unified - shouldn't it be pretty easy to change it for all apps at once. I guess the answer is yes because Shapeshifter is doing that.

Or asked differently - are the GUI elements part of every app? I guess so.

If that is the case then I guess the GUI elements are part of XCode. Would that mean that a recompile of every app is necessary in order to change the look?

[psychofreak]

Hi there,

here is a simple question: once the look is unified - shouldn't it be pretty easy to change it for all apps at once. I guess the answer is yes because Shapeshifter is doing that.

Or asked differently - are the GUI elements part of every app? I guess so.

If that is the case then I guess the GUI elements are part of XCode. Would that mean that a recompile of every app is necessary in order to change the look?That is why some people that this is just a 'placeholder' GUI for one that will be showed off at WWDC or another event :)

[MarcelV]

Black with white lettering isn't going to happen. It is hard on the human eye. But I really think the iPhone, Apple's Sneek Peak website, appleTV, iTunes Coverflow full screen and even iPhoto '06 (full screen mode) have a lot in common.

The icons and dock are all completely redesigned and based on black (see the icon bar that shows 'Time Machine', 64-bit, 'Spaces' etc. Not the dock in the screen shots). Very similar concept to the iPhone dock. Full screen mode is black in any of those functions. And if windows are needed they 'float'. The popup windows will all black transparent, compare Quick Look with iPhoto '06.

I really think that that will be the new look of OS X.

[CmdrLaForge]

That is why some people that this is just a 'placeholder' GUI for one that will be showed off at WWDC or another event :)

Ok - thats what I thought.

I still believe that Steve will blow us away with the new Leopard - I guess the "real" reason for the delay are the secret features. I always thought that they must include them into the developer releases for testing before they finally ship. Well - I thought there will be a special event where they are shown. But WWDC makes much more sense.

[Avatar74]

I have a couple of observations...

1. I think that Apple's "secret" features may revolve around more 3D graphics and may in fact be a move toward an OS for a multitouch interface Mac... possibly a new line of portable communications/computing devices and possibly under the Mobile Mac banner.

2. If no one else mentioned it, the screenshots of the color gamut options for RGB, CIE and ITU-R component video specs can mean a couple things... If they're only in the Digital Color Meter it's more than likely for use with cross-integrated Apps (anything from Photoshop to Final Cut to ensure one uniform color matching process is used in your workflow), but ALSO, if these same options appear in the actual color profiles for your display, that would mean... Desktop to your HDTV. This may be direct cable as in DVI-to-HDMI (or HDMI-to-HDMI if Apple starts making machines with such an output), and/or wireless via AppleTV (hence the inclusion of ATSC component video Color Gamut).

[guzhogi]

hopefully the dark grey is a placeholder for something innovative. who cares what color apple makes the scroll bars. I'm hoping that apple doesn't just make a resolution indipendant version of aqua. we need less windows, less hierarchy, less clutter.

Dashboard, spotlight, the dock and expose are all about the frustrating reality of a window system and the need to get over it. The signs are everywhere, multitouch, Zuis, the 3d interfaces, projectors, audiopad. Windows are just a graphical interpretation of text based interfaces. we now have the technology to interact more directly with out information and calculations.

give the programmer the option to design his own theme. Simplicity is not skin deep.

How would you have it if it weren't windows? Just curious.

As for developers designing their own interfaces, that might be hard for the consumer and probably the developer, too. If each program had its own interface, the user would get really confused like "How do I close this?" and "How do I make this bigger/smaller?" Plus, do you know how much work it'll take if a developer had to design his/her own GUI for each app? There should be some consistency to the interface between apps. Like you'll always know what a button is, you'll always know what a scroll bar is. No guess work.

But it would be nice if people can make their own interface elements. Kind of like Shapeshifter. You can have different themes to the interface, but it would be consistent throughout the whole OS.

[rambosou]

I feel like this is a front and there is no way this is the finished product. It doesn't have enough suave for Apple. In the past they always have real sleek looking stuff which is (kinda) ahead of its time (compared to other programs and OS's out). My guess is there just putting this on now and are really going to release a new look at the conference in June. I feel it looks really grainy, the brushed metal needs a face lift but in my opinion this isn't the right path to take.

[EagerDragon]

Some people here have been stating that the developers have been receiving a different version of OSX than Apple is working on.

Sounds to me like they were correct after all, they been ridiculed a lot by several people here, but lets think a little.

At WWDC Apple stated that they will release a semi-finished and feature complete version of OSX. There is no way that they can add all the new features in just 2 months. They must have been working on those features for a while now, yet the developers have not seen the features yet. Maybe the instability they seen is becuase those features were yank out out of the code base and replaced with something else they had no time to test out.

Well, what do you think?

[EagerDragon]

One thing I don't like about the new look..... Darker grey of the broders and menu areas with black writting is going to make it hard for some of us with bad eyes to read. Like when someone uses black type on red, for readability it is better to use white type on red. You young guys may not have a problem, but I and others probably will. We need better contrast and larger type.

[Iroganai]

Consistency in the UI. At least much better than Tiger.
(yeah, I agree we can do it now with Shapeshifter / UNO)

[BenRoethig]

Put the Application folder in the dock, and then you can just hold your mouse on it or secondary-click it for a full list of Applications :)

I do that myself. I just wish there was a single unified space on the dock where you could access the system prefs, your home holder, and the Applications. It would make it a lot easier on the switchers.

[AppleMan101]

Moved this post to a new thread...please delete this.

[ddubbo]

I guess that Microsoft wished they had said that working on the Zune caused the delay in Vista being released since the iPhone excuse worked for Apple.

What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

What makes the most sense is that they are spending the time to unify the interface UI's so that the iPhone, AppleTV, OS X 10.5 and the new iPod are all the same. Now that would be worth waiting for. I hope I am not let down. After all Apple was mocking Microsoft for Vista being so late.....the last thing they need is no good reason for OS X being late and the iPhone is not a good reason.
Exactly. I suppose the iPhone is a last reason why Leopard was delayed. They can move a thousands best developers into new project, and it's not going to help. When people get into the new project , it takes about one month just to get in. So if they moved people now, then only at the middle of the May they can start to contribute something t Iphone proj(at the best case). So if iPhone will have at May any unclosed issues in it's development - it can't be shipped to customers even at the end of June.(Otherwise the people will pay 500$ for beta version of the device - that will be really revolutionary new way of marketing ).
So the real reason of the delay i suppose it just a lot of bugs and unfinished issues.
Other reason could be inability of OSX to use properly newest Intel Quad core processors. So Apple decided to improve OS performance on Quad-core processors at Leopard and not to wait until 10.6.
Anyway - Apple , welcome to MS world!

[Baron58]

A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?


*snicker* Not familiar with unix systems, are we? Short of upgrading the kernel, the most you should have to do is send the process a SIGHUP or kill/restart it.

[AppleMan101]

I do that myself. I just wish there was a single unified space on the dock where you could access the system prefs, your home holder, and the Applications. It would make it a lot easier on the switchers.

Why don't you try TigerLaunch (http://ranchero.com/tigerlaunch/)?

Has anyone got more than 21 things in their menu bar?

[LillieDesigns]

I'm just going to sit back and wait. I like my iMac, check these rumor sites everyday, and have found I always seem to be a tad dissapointed when the product comes out.

For example: If Apple had release :apple:TV the day they showed it off, it would have given less time for people to speculate. Speculation is good, free press, but when you have rumors floating around about Tivo-like features on :apple:TV, insane 3D multitouch interfaces in Leopard, it's never gonna be what EVERY person wanted.

I guess the moral of the story is: Steve, release it the day of like you used to. Kthxbye.

[CoreWeb]

Exactly. I suppose the iPhone is a last reason why Leopard was delayed. They can move a thousands best developers into new project, and it's not going to help. When people get into the new project , it takes about one month just to get in. So if they moved people now, then only at the middle of the May they can start to contribute something t Iphone proj(at the best case). So if iPhone will have at May any unclosed issues in it's development - it can't be shipped to customers even at the end of June.(Otherwise the people will pay 500$ for beta version of the device - that will be really revolutionary new way of marketing ).
So the real reason of the delay i suppose it just a lot of bugs and unfinished issues.
Other reason could be inability of OSX to use properly newest Intel Quad core processors. So Apple decided to improve OS performance on Quad-core processors at Leopard and not to wait until 10.6.
Anyway - Apple , welcome to MS world!

My impression was that Apple had already shifted developers to iPhone a while ago, and now had shifted them back, and that the iPhone was pretty complete now.

[Diatribe]

It sure looks like to-do items and notes might be integrated into .mac. Now THAT would be sweet. I have been asking for this for quite a while now.

[AppleMan101]

My impression was that Apple had already shifted developers to iPhone a while ago, and now had shifted them back, and that the iPhone was pretty complete now.

You're assuming that Apple are telling the truth about the delay...:rolleyes:

I think it's got far more to do with clever marketing whatever their scheme is...

*lightbulb* maybe they ment the new iPod not iPhone?...nah forget it...it must be a intricate marketing scheme.

[CoreWeb]

You're assuming that Apple are telling the truth about the delay...:rolleyes:

I think it's got far more to do with clever marketing whatever their scheme is...

*lightbulb* maybe they ment the new iPod not iPhone?...nah forget it...it must be a intricate marketing scheme.

I give it 50/50 actually on whether they were telling the truth. Perhaps I should have prefixed my comment, "Assuming that Apple did delay Leopard because of the iPhone..."

I also wanted to comment on (but forgot in my last post) the likeliness of the UI changing in the actual release of Leopard from what we see in this development release.

I am certain that it will change slightly - many buttons do not look right, text in the toolbars look HORRIBLE, etc. These will be fixed. Scrollbars may or may not change to the iTunes 7 look (I think they probably will, however).

Now, it is still possible that Apple will release an entirely new theme. What would be really neat is if users could make their own themes... now, I've read that one of the reasons Apple (and other companies like Microsoft with Windows) didn't want to do this is because service and support people might either have problems using computers which have odd themes, or it might make things harder to debug... but what if the custom theme could be turned off with a keyboard shortcut like, say, CMD-OPT-CTL-9?

(P.S., try CMD-OPT-CTL-8 on your Mac - you can see "Illuminous" today.)

[SSpiro]

More reasons why I'm not losing sleep over Leopard.

[bdj21ya]

for some reason i want my mac to look like Vista. Vista looks very sexy. Too bad everything else on it sux... Well maybe not DX10

You have absolutely no taste or style. Vista looks like some teenager tried to trick out his PC by drawing his own lame theme. The window control buttons (int the upper right) look ridiculous. I quickly installed an OS X theme over it and can now breathe easier.

[AppleMan101]

(P.S., try CMD-OPT-CTL-8 on your Mac - you can see "Illuminous" today.)

A while back i changed it to CMD-OPT-CTL-leftarrow because i like to use it that much.

Althought many people are crying out for an illuminous GUI, I'm not sure how horrible it would be on your eyes :( I'm pretty sure that the current design is a placeholder, possibly for something based around CoreAnimation. (like arn said)

[skinnylegs]

first thing I do when I get leapord, is to download a theme. Though they might not have any for a while......or maybe you can simply pick a different theme within Leopard. ;)

[bobber205]

Man! That Tinksecret site must be super busy. All kinds of waiting for one pic for me .... anyone else?

[GanleyBurger]

.

What would really be nice is if Leopard had a variety of super, in-your-face themes to choose from. PC does this. Don't think that I'm saying "Apple should chase Microsoft," i'm not. But....

Hey! Have a Classic theme, Intel Theme, Black with white text theme, standard theme, Brushed Metal theme, grey theme, aqua theme, etc.

Sure. You might hate white text on black after a few weeks, but that's the point. You can have fun changing things around. That's why I'm bored. I use Ableton Live. It allows you to retro the look to look like older versions of the software.

Just changing Wallpaper and screensavers.... Boring!!!:eek:

[swingerofbirch]

With all the random, ad-hoc changes we have seen, that have come so slowly over the course of Leopard's development, I wonder if Apple really has a plan. You need an idea more than just: we have 10.4, time to make 10.5!

10.4 didn't have a wild number of additions. For the end user it was basically spotlight and dashboard. I think having a narrow focus helps development. It seems they are taking on some very broad ideas with Core Animation. Perhaps it will bare us some fruit. But if they have a clear plan (ie revolutionize GUI with animation, 3d, etc) they haven't articulated it to their developers or public in their preview.

Hopefully they are still working on things behind the scenes that aren't released in the developer builds. Maybe the recently unified interface is just a placeholder for whatever a new UI might be. I hope so! And I hope 10.5 is not another Rhapsody.

[GanleyBurger]

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On second thought...

Apple needs to hire the best freakin' graphic artists to go way out there, while remaining streamline, classy.

Why not call Leopard OS X 11 and just hit with TV commercials that actually show a variety of applications, in rapid motion, not just cute little skits. Show content. Show the music industry, graphics industry, and cutting edge businesses at work.:apple:

Cue up the extreme sports music and show gaming applications; really WOW the world. :D

Cheese.... I know. But every Mac user is not like Jobs... a mellow, reasonable, calm, cool, colective, black turtle-necked wearing wine lover... or the skinny Mac guy in the commercials.

Pirates theme???? ahahahahrrrgggrrrhhggggggahahhrrrrrrr!!!:eek:

[RedDragon870503]

Is it just me or do other people agree that the previewed iPhone interface was "cooler" than the current OS X interface?

[dartzorichalcos]

Is it just me or do other people agree that the previewed iPhone interface was "cooler" than the current OS X interface?

I just can hope that the Leopard interface will be like the iPhone interface.

[cmccarten]

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On second thought...

Apple needs to hire the best freakin' graphic artists to go way out there, while remaining streamline, classy.

Why not call Leopard OS X 11 and just hit with TV commercials that actually show a variety of applications, in rapid motion, not just cute little skits. Show content. Show the music industry, graphics industry, and cutting edge businesses at work.:apple:

Cue up the extreme sports music and show gaming applications; really WOW the world. :D

Cheese.... I know. But every Mac user is not like Jobs... a mellow, reasonable, calm, cool, colective, black turtle-necked wearing wine lover... or the skinny Mac guy in the commercials.

Pirates theme???? ahahahahrrrgggrrrhhggggggahahhrrrrrrr!!!:eek:

so the new operating system should be phonetically called:
OS Ten Eleven?

[EagerDragon]

Is it just me or do other people agree that the previewed iPhone interface was "cooler" than the current OS X interface?

Some of the phone theme is way cool (black like with the picture).

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0226.jpg


but some of it is very close to more of the same (lists).
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0195.jpg

The look of the top picture (with the kid picture) is way cool, including the transparency.

That black theme will be great on these old eyes.

[macnerd622]

A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?

No way, this sucks. With Tiger I can start downloading and installing updates while I'm working. If say iPhoto is being updated then the updater tells me to quit it before I update it. That screen shot makes it seem that we'll have to close out of all apps, even the finder to start installing updates.

Edit:
Even XP lets you do updates in the background while you work.

Edit again:

Okay, nevermind, that screen shot that shows the restarting part says 'simplified interface if desired' so maybe we won't have to close down all apps when using the old style interface.

[Music-Man]

I think we'll definitely see a UI like the iPhone. Thats the type of "class" everyones been asking for.
It would also be smart to have a unified theme going across multiple devices. Throw it on the iPod as well. It would help bring some people over to the mac side.

[Project]

I think we'll definitely see a UI like the iPhone. Thats the type of "class" everyones been asking for.
It would also be smart to have a unified theme going across multiple devices. Throw it on the iPod as well. It would help bring some people over to the mac side

Hence, Jobs specifically pointing out that it "runs OSX". It could be an extension of the halo effect.

[CoreWeb]

No way, this sucks. With Tiger I can start downloading and installing updates while I'm working. If say iPhoto is being updated then the updater tells me to quit it before I update it. That screen shot makes it seem that we'll have to close out of all apps, even the finder to start installing updates.

Edit:
Even XP lets you do updates in the background while you work.

Edit again:

Okay, nevermind, that screen shot that shows the restarting part says 'simplified interface if desired' so maybe we won't have to close down all apps when using the old style interface.

It does say "this installation" as well. Maybe that doesn't apply to other installations. And remember, Leopard isn't finished...

[vohdoun]

Call me crazy, but I miss the pinstripes. :o

Same, only pinstripes version I have liked is Tiger's current.

As for the new UI I don't think there will be a black menubar or titlebar no? I doubt it.

It looks more eye catching with white at the top and black at the bottom?

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0195.jpg

[Mattydj]

I'm not sure if i like the new theme but then again i suppose i'll grow to get used to it :cool:

[Markleshark]

ThinkSecret need to get some decent serverage. I've been looking (I say looking, I mean 'waiting for them to load') at these screens for half an hour now.

[MacBoobsPro]

ThinkSecret need to get some decent serverage. I've been looking (I say looking, I mean 'waiting for them to load') at these screens for half an hour now.

Yeh its dragging its ass for me too. But you got to remember this will attract A LOT of attention, no matter how unimpressive it it :(

I sincerely hope this isnt the way they go. I want something that looks like AppleTVs interface; smooth black and blue stuff.

[MLeepson]

ThinkSecret need to get some decent serverage. I've been looking (I say looking, I mean 'waiting for them to load') at these screens for half an hour now.

I know! I've been waiting about 5 min. (at least) for each picture to load. It's driving me crazy!

[nickg331]

i think everyone is forgetting the purpose of the developer builds. they are simply to allow developers to begin transitioning their programs to the new OS. they are NOT meant to serve as a preview for what is to come. it seems pretty obvious to me that the GUI of 9a410 is NOT what will appear in the final build. however, creating a universal theme for the system makes it INCREDIBLY EASY for apple to change the entire look at once (ie, when they put out the first external beta at WWDC). it was previously noted that leopard contains a new frameworks folder called themes, which contains an item called aqua. seems to me all they need to do is modify this file and suddenly every application looks different. steve j is NOT trying to tell users what is to come in the leopard GUI, merely setting apple up to completely overhaul the GUI right before leopard is released.

im guessing steve jobs still has more than a few tricks up his sleeve. i personally kind of like the gray GUI, but i can GUARANTEE that it will not be the final product. apple is building up for something big, adding to the anticipation by extending the release time fram (enough to make it annoyingly close, but not so much that customers lose faith... *cough* vista *cough*). at this point, anything less than extraordinary would be a let down, but im putting my bets on apple coming through and delivering. everything apples done this year has indicated that they expect to impress us, like the curious message displayed on their website at the new year ("the first 30 years were just the beginning. welcome to 2007"), or like the little GUI changes that pop up here and there seem to just be hinting at something big to come.

so, i repeat: this is NOT the final GUI. apple is famous for company secrecy, did anyone really think they'd give away the details of the upcoming GUI 6 months before release?

october will be a good month...

[Andrew Danks]

The vast amount of bugs is definitely a sign that the Mac OS X team is working on something complicated. Lots of bugs means the build was rushed out, in my opinion.

Leopard is going to be a huge milestone. Heck, they are given until October to complete it. Now that's a lot of time, 2.5 years. They've never spent this much time on any 10.x operating system before.

The new GUI is a placeholder in my opinion, it doesn't match anything and doesn't take advantage of any Core Animation. Something's coming. Hopefully we'll see in June.

[Project]

doesn't take advantage of any Core Animation. Something's coming.


This is the key right here. Right now its limited to Time Machine and a few other bits. You just know that Apple have a bag of Core Animation tricks up their sleeves.

[GanleyBurger]

so the new operating system should be phonetically called:
OS Ten Eleven?


Opps!!! My bad... :) Skip the 10 thing...

Apple should kill the 10 thing, and go OS XI

This one should go to ELEVEN!!!:eek:

[me_94501]

*snicker* Not familiar with unix systems, are we? Short of upgrading the kernel, the most you should have to do is send the process a SIGHUP or kill/restart it.

And yet...

http://www.unsanity.org/archives/mac_os_x/shock_and_awe.php

[Peace]

I'm gonna do this once.And only once.So look while you can because it will be gone in five minutes.

The "HUD" arrows is for full screen view..

And to answer another persons question about QuickLOOK ( NOT View ) it does have a thumbnail generator..for ANY Document.

Here :

[Project]

I'm gonna do this once.And only once.So look while you can because it will be gone in five minutes.

The "HUD" arrows is for full screen view..

And to answer another persons question about QuickLOOK ( NOT View ) it does have a thumbnail generator..for ANY Document.

Here :

can you play each of those movies in QuickLook? Or is it just a thumbnail image?

[Peace]

can you play each of those movies in QuickLook? Or is it just a thumbnail image?


Yes you can.In the same quicklook window just by clicking on the thumbnail.

you can leave the quicklook window open and go from file to file or directory to directory and it will change.

[xUKHCx]

I'm gonna do this once.And only once.So look while you can because it will be gone in five minutes.

The "HUD" arrows is for full screen view..

And to answer another persons question about QuickLOOK ( NOT View ) it does have a thumbnail generator..for ANY Document.

Here :

Wow, you were pretty scathing with the other person who originally posted screenshots the other day.

Thanks for sharing.

[Project]

Yes you can.In the same quicklook window

you can leave the quicklook window open and go from file to file or directory to directory and it will change.


Thanks. Can it be triggered with a keyboard shortcut? Or do you have to press the button.

[Peace]

Wow, you were pretty scathing with the other person who originally posted screenshots the other day.

Thanks for sharing.

I was pissed off that day..My apologies to whomever.

[jettredmont]

How is having a browser with tabs any better then having multiple windows open?

Tabs are great when they represent my organization.

Were I unable to make more than a single browser window, and required to place all pages in tabs in a single window ... man, that would suck. Kinda like Entourage really sucks for trying to manage email and calendaring at the same time.

As for app-app integration: that's what AppleScript and more generally apple events exist for. Just because apps are living in separate processes doesn't mean they need to be completely separate either.

IMHO, I enjoy having iCal and Mail well separated. A simple AppleScript will move an email message into an iCal event just like you say Outlook does (although I find it amusing that both Outlook and Entourage rely on scripts for this action instead of having a built-in mechanism just for that action which seems to be its whole raison d'etre). Moreover, I find it highly infuriating in Entourage to be viewing an invitation to a meeting and be asked to accept/decline the invitation, but without seeing what's on the calendar at that same time. I mean, you'd think an integrated app would be able to just give me a simple button that says "show proposed meeting in calendar" prior to me "accepting" it.

So, maybe there is something to the integration of the apps, but Entourage and Outlook certainly aren't doing it. And, if Microsoft's resources can't get integrated apps working right after over a decade of development, it makes it seem less likely that it ever will really live up to the promise.

Other beefs: Entourage's unified database is constantly corrupting itself, messing up my emails, my calendars, and my contacts. I'd rather flaky MS code only affect one of those three!

[pdpfilms]

Not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but why is the "To Do" function in Mail and not iCal??

[xUKHCx]

Not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but why is the "To Do" function in Mail and not iCal??

I think the "To Do" is system wide, so To Dos that you enter in Mail will appear in To Dos in iCal and visa versa. Means you don't need to keep opening up one or other application just to see the To Dos. Also you can make an email into a todo which is rather good. So if someone emails you saying I need this, this and this done then you can quickly and easily create To Dos based on the email.

Steve previewed this way back at the WWDC or whatever it was first previewed at

See here (http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/mail.html)

Forget manually entering a new item to your to-do list every time an email hits your inbox. With Mail for Leopard, simply click an email or note to create a new To-Do. Include a due date, an alarm, or assign priorities. To-Dos you create in Mail automagically appear in iCal, complete with any edits or additions you make.

[dansgil]

Not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but why is the "To Do" function in Mail and not iCal??

In Leopard, i shows up in both. IF you add something in Mail, you can see it in iCal, and vice-versa.

See here. (http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/mail.html)

Edit: Oops. Looks like xUKHCx beat me to it :)

[Music-Man]

I think the "To Do" is system wide, so To Dos that you enter in Mail will appear in To Dos in iCal and visa versa. Means you don't need to keep opening up one or other application just to see the To Dos. Also you can make an email into a today which is rather good. So if someone emails you saying I need this, this and this done then you can quickly and easily create To Dos based on the email.

I also remember Steve saying this feature will be incorporated into Safari. If you see an event that interests you, highlight it and add to your To Do List.
It would be a very useful feature and something I definitely need.

[EagerDragon]

The vast amount of bugs is definitely a sign that the Mac OS X team is working on something complicated. Lots of bugs means the build was rushed out, in my opinion.

Leopard is going to be a huge milestone. Heck, they are given until October to complete it. Now that's a lot of time, 2.5 years. They've never spent this much time on any 10.x operating system before.

The new GUI is a placeholder in my opinion, it doesn't match anything and doesn't take advantage of any Core Animation. Something's coming. Hopefully we'll see in June.

As I understand, Apple wants to shame Vista and micro$oft, so this look is not impresive by any means. There must be a lot more behind the curtain.

[Markleshark]

Lots of bugs means the build was rushed out, in my opinion.

Why would they have to rush out a developer release?

[Project]

I also remember Steve saying this feature will be incorporated into Safari. If you see an event that interests you, highlight it and add to your To Do List.
It would be a very useful feature and something I definitely need.

Damn thats pretty cool.

As its system wide I hope all Cocoa apps can access it.

[nate13]

Why would they have to rush out a developer release?

i agree. this isnt rushed, its just a rough rough draft. all the buttons being missized and everything is just the lack of polish. Like others i think its a placeholder for something much bigger. Even though this has taken so long that we should be calling it 10.6!

[xUKHCx]

I also remember Steve saying this feature will be incorporated into Safari. If you see an event that interests you, highlight it and add to your To Do List.
It would be a very useful feature and something I definitely need.

Don't remember the Safari integration but would be amazing if they add this.

[trevorlsciact]

The way I look at it there is only one new UI Leopard could have, dark, reflective metal. Just as sexy as vista(well, like 10 time as sexy, actually)--but in a different way. Transparency is old hat--the windows should show a reflection of what is around them, very Apple, very sexy.

[calicardiff]

You have absolutely no taste or style. Vista looks like some teenager tried to trick out his PC by drawing his own lame theme. The window control buttons (int the upper right) look ridiculous. I quickly installed an OS X theme over it and can now breathe easier.

Agreed - any initial eye-candy wow factor there is in Vista rapidly descends into an annoying, confusing mess of too many colours & effects.

Steve Jobs said it the best "...problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste..."

Look at the BBC News Technology (http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology) section and currently out of 50,000 voters, over 85% don't like Vista. The stats from the large eCommerce web site that I work on as my day job show that in 3 months Vista has gained less than 2% overall O/S share. The eye-candy isn't working...

[trevorlsciact]

What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

But the people who work on Leopard are probably some of the best in the world. It's not a matter of apple not having enough resources to hire more people, it's about the world not having enough people that talented. (arguing devil's advocate, of course)

[iPhil]

.

Why not call Leopard OS X 11



I'll tell you why :apple: won't call it OS X11 Leopard ..


Because around 2000: Jobs said that OS X line has a life of 20 Years.. :eek:

Thats why they won't do that,it's only been 7 years into the life cycle .. :p

[johnnyjibbs]

So they've removed pinstripes. And it's all going to look like the cheap iTunes/iLife interface. Not impressed.

[trevorlsciact]

So they've removed pinstripes. And it's all going to look like the cheap iTunes/iLife interface. Not impressed.

No, this is being 50/50 chance that this is only a temporary UI and will be replaced.

[vohdoun]

And it's all going to look like the cheap iTunes/iLife interface. Not impressed.

I don't know why but the iTunes UI somehow makes me think of cardboard or sugar paper, anyone else think that when you see so much of it together?

[motulist]

I'm a big fan of brushed metal. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think the smooth grey is fine too, but it's a little boring.

[twoodcc]

well i like looking at new screenshots :)

i'm still disappointed that leopard got delayed though :(

[socamx]

I'm a big fan of brushed metal. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think the smooth grey is fine too, but it's a little boring.

You definitely aren't the only brushed metal liker. I like the brushed metal look and the non-unified look of the apps, it helps me recognize at a glance which app is which.

I'll be one of the first to download a brushed metal theme for whatever program will theme 10.5 first...

I wish the top left and right corners weren't so sharp, I like the more roundedness the current ones have. Reminds me of the corners of the laptops, they aren't sharp like that.

[ChildOL]

OS X is now in competition with Windows Vista, SO, as a hint by Apple of the new "look" of OS X v10.5, X marks the spot...
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/

[vohdoun]

You definitely aren't the only brushed metal liker. I like the brushed metal look and the non-unified look of the apps, it helps me recognize at a glance which app is which.

I'll be one of the first to download a brushed metal theme for whatever program will theme 10.5 first...

I wish the top left and right corners weren't so sharp, I like the more roundedness the current ones have. Reminds me of the corners of the laptops, they aren't sharp like that.

Make that 3. I have tried some Shapeshifter themes that has the current iTunes look but I keep reverting back to Aqua itself.

[e.magnusson]

In regards to some people wondering if Leopard will have any interface changes, I highly doubt it will be anything drastic. Maybe a few touch-ups like dropping the brushed metal. I mainly think this because it was only in the major new OS release (OS X) that they did a drastic interface change. My bet, wait until OS XI for something dramatically different... unless Apple has something hidden under their sleeves.

[aussie_geek]

still a bit meh for me.

there must be other stuff we are not seeing. i want a total new look. away with the metal.

[akac]

With all the random, ad-hoc changes we have seen, that have come so slowly over the course of Leopard's development, I wonder if Apple really has a plan. You need an idea more than just: we have 10.4, time to make 10.5!

10.4 didn't have a wild number of additions. For the end user it was basically spotlight and dashboard. I think having a narrow focus helps development. It seems they are taking on some very broad ideas with Core Animation. Perhaps it will bare us some fruit. But if they have a clear plan (ie revolutionize GUI with animation, 3d, etc) they haven't articulated it to their developers or public in their preview.

Hopefully they are still working on things behind the scenes that aren't released in the developer builds. Maybe the recently unified interface is just a placeholder for whatever a new UI might be. I hope so! And I hope 10.5 is not another Rhapsody.

The way mid-size to large projects work is that there is a trunk code base. Devs work on new features in their own groups and none of that goes into the trunk until the code is ready to be tested or used by a broader base. So because of that, you can be assured that its wildly innaccurate to speculate about all this stuff for secret UIs and features.

The point is simple - if Leopard is not feature complete (which Apple has said its not) - then it means whatever those features are, are being developed in their own branch and will be merged later.

[SeaFox]

What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

http://daringfireball.net/2007/04/bottleneck

[theappleguy]

You definitely aren't the only brushed metal liker. I like the brushed metal look and the non-unified look of the apps, it helps me recognize at a glance which app is which.

I'll be one of the first to download a brushed metal theme for whatever program will theme 10.5 first...

I wish the top left and right corners weren't so sharp, I like the more roundedness the current ones have. Reminds me of the corners of the laptops, they aren't sharp like that.

I'll add my preference for brushed metal. It has developed into a very nice interface. It has been around for a while, so it wouldn't surprise me if it is replaced, but please Apple, don't just change things for the sake of it, and certainly don't dump aqua for an iTunes 7 look!

Personally I like the idea of all the windows looking the same, but I don't like the sharp cornered look. Too harsh for my liking, and not in keeping with Apple's hardware design.

[Nym]

IMO we'll most likely see a refreshed GUI, I'm not saying a drastic change on how to use computers but a sleek, clean and useful GUI that keeps up with the iPhone and most likely the upcoming 6th Gen iPod's.

Why? Because they have to.
Apple knows that for OSX to gain some serious market share it has to beat Windows Vista in every consumer front and really stand out in every way. That means GUI too.

Although Aqua has been seriously polished since the first release of OSX I still think that there are too many coincidences for us to not think that a serious interface revamp is coming. After all, where is core animationbeing used in the seeds that the dev's have been receiving? Where's the coherence towards the iPhone GUI? Why does Leopard looks TOO much like Tiger? Why so many secrets? Why delay the release? It almost seems they're trying to throw us the wrong way and then BOOM! :)

My guess is, at WWDC 07, we'll be eating a big can of "****" for swearing so much at Apple these past months :D At least I hope so...

[Tristano]

I don't believe that the images we are currently seeing here are representative at all of the actual Leopard release... much too boring to be the real deal. No 'wow' factor. I also agree that Vista is much too busy looking, and that Apple will need to combine elegance and pizzazz.

I agree with some other comments here regarding the brushed metal being OK... I don't have a problem with it, although I prefer the lighter shade and look of Mail. Still, I think it's all a bit boring for an upcoming Leopard release, and I am hoping for something more reflective or transparent without being as confusing as Vista seems to be. I spent a week working with Vista and there was very little I liked about it... but it does sparkle a bit. But talk about confusing... there's too much stuff going on everywhere...

And while we are on the subject of GUI's, I sure hope Garageband gets an overhaul... I did my own brushed metal skin some time ago, because the wood grain just didn't do it for me at all! I'd like to see something slick, black, reflective, more like Cover Flow in iTunes.

[psychometry]

The way I look at it there is only one new UI Leopard could have, dark, reflective metal. Just as sexy as vista(well, like 10 time as sexy, actually)--but in a different way. Transparency is old hat--the windows should show a reflection of what is around them, very Apple, very sexy.
God. Please stop with the "sexy". An application window or OS theme is not "sexy". What you mean to say is "visually appealing" or "cool" or "good".

For your education, here's a list of other things that are never sexy:
Cars
Lamps
Computer hardware
Computer software
Corporations
Industrial design
Cell phones
MP3 players
Packaging

That is all. Thank you.

[SeaFox]

God. Please stop with the "sexy". An application window or OS theme is not "sexy". What you mean to say is "visually appealing" or "cool" or "good".

For your education, here's a list of other things that are never sexy:
Cars
Lamps
Computer hardware
Computer software
Corporations
Industrial design
Cell phones
MP3 players
Packaging

That is all. Thank you.

Packaging could be sexy. What about Mrs. Butterworth's pancake syrup. :D

[motulist]

Please stop with the "sexy". An application window or OS theme is not "sexy". What you mean to say is "visually appealing" or "cool" or "good".


sex·y [sek-see] –adjective
3. excitingly appealing; glamorous: a sexy new car.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sexy

[Tristano]

A computer application, OS, car, etc., can all certainly be sexy. What makes "cool" a more appropriate adjective than "sexy"? They are both colloquialisms, and "sexy" definitely comes to mind with a lot of Apple products—thank goodness!


sex·y [sek-see] –adjective
3. excitingly appealing; glamorous: a sexy new car.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sexy

[weezer160]

While I really like the idea of brushed metal being phased out, I think Apple needs to give more experienced users the option of changing the appearance more. I use APE (Application Enhancer) to change the color of the dock, just like you can change the appearance of the Terminal. I'm not that big of a UNIX geek to change things like that without 3rd party apps, but more than just two color themes (instead of only Graphite and Blue) would be greatly appreciated, because it would look better with the slick new look of the Finder.

[Project]

In regards to the 'illuminous' thing. I can count at least 4 instances of this effect on the Apple website in the past few months.

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/ (you have to see it slowly)

http://www.apple.com/itunes/ (the download iTunes button)

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/ (from the MacWorld keynote)

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/action/?movie=nab

the video real above has the same kind of space look with stars in the background as Time Machine

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/timemachine.html